Article from a black woman saying "Black Men Are Terrorists" SMH

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  • LcnsdbyROYALTY
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    deadeye wrote: »
    Her pic:




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    She kinda looks like a little bit on the stuckup/snobbish side.

    I'm surprised no one's said it yet...

    SMASH on that rooster lookin ? .
  • blackrain
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    LordZuko wrote: »
    blackrain wrote: »
    LordZuko wrote: »
    I've washed my hands of feminist influenced black women long ago. I'm glad to see my decision was correct.

    What's not said is just as important as whats not said. Pay attention to the lack of pushback from black females. See how their silence forms this tacit agreement amongst them.

    When i tell you black men that black women are not your enemy but are worse than an enemy don't act shocked. They let your enemies in through the back door. If it is disseminated and unchallenged that black men are terrorists, how then does that reflect in the public policy? What then will be demanded of black men to not be viewed and treated as such?

    The article is over the top...but the bold is interesting because right now there's a thread about a black women getting her eye taken out full of ? cracking jokes and anytime a thread comes up with a man killing a woman there's always some ? that come with a "see this is what child support can do to make a man go crazy" instead of just saying its ? up. So does that lack of pushback show the same condoning of actions?

    So you think jokes are serious now? You think that ? don't joke on each other if some ? up ? happens? It's called gallows humor. Dark humor. You think a rational man needs to be told not to de-oculate a ? , or hold up a crazy man as an obvious sign of what not to do in a tense situation?

    You know what i have seen tho? Anytime a woman burns a man's clothes, damages his car, maces him, physically assault him, i see tons of ? in the notes cheering it on, cosigning, and empathizing saying what they would've done. And usually it's over something petty.

    The only time I've seen ? blanketly cosign violence against ? is for some egregious ? like she put her hands on him or just did some foul outrageous ? . And even then you got ? that be on that "just walk away" ? .

    So no to compare obvious jokes to a ? black feminist manifesto is the epitome of false equivalence.

    I didn't compare the jokes to the article in this post. I took the logic you used and asked if it translates to something else. And you are being naive if you think that the only time ? cosign violence against women is in those situations.
  • aneed123
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    Blackrain whats so hard about comin in this thread denouncing what was done wrong to the men and leaving it at that? Instead u deflect to another thread about a girl eye. Perceptions gonna say u dont care about the black men
  • LordZuko
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    blackrain wrote: »
    LordZuko wrote: »
    blackrain wrote: »
    LordZuko wrote: »
    I've washed my hands of feminist influenced black women long ago. I'm glad to see my decision was correct.

    What's not said is just as important as whats not said. Pay attention to the lack of pushback from black females. See how their silence forms this tacit agreement amongst them.

    When i tell you black men that black women are not your enemy but are worse than an enemy don't act shocked. They let your enemies in through the back door. If it is disseminated and unchallenged that black men are terrorists, how then does that reflect in the public policy? What then will be demanded of black men to not be viewed and treated as such?

    The article is over the top...but the bold is interesting because right now there's a thread about a black women getting her eye taken out full of ? cracking jokes and anytime a thread comes up with a man killing a woman there's always some ? that come with a "see this is what child support can do to make a man go crazy" instead of just saying its ? up. So does that lack of pushback show the same condoning of actions?

    So you think jokes are serious now? You think that ? don't joke on each other if some ? up ? happens? It's called gallows humor. Dark humor. You think a rational man needs to be told not to de-oculate a ? , or hold up a crazy man as an obvious sign of what not to do in a tense situation?

    You know what i have seen tho? Anytime a woman burns a man's clothes, damages his car, maces him, physically assault him, i see tons of ? in the notes cheering it on, cosigning, and empathizing saying what they would've done. And usually it's over something petty.

    The only time I've seen ? blanketly cosign violence against ? is for some egregious ? like she put her hands on him or just did some foul outrageous ? . And even then you got ? that be on that "just walk away" ? .

    So no to compare obvious jokes to a ? black feminist manifesto is the epitome of false equivalence.

    I didn't compare the jokes to the article in this post. I took the logic you used and asked if it translates to something else. And you are being naive if you think that the only time ? cosign violence against women is in those situations.

    You didn't use my logic. When articles like this are met with outright agreement or tacit agreement. The number who would outright disagree and verbalize it is a number so small it is effectively zero.

    In contrast like the situation you submitted there is always a split among the males.

    A significant percentage of men think it is unacceptable for a man to be violent with a woman for any reason. While another significant percentage think violence is only acceptable in extreme situations.

    Very few men believe that a man should just be violent with a woman for no reason or petty reasons. In fact we think it's weak behavior.

    On the flip side we have experiments that show people are generally tolerant of female violence towards men and often find it amusing.

    The experiment is posted on YouTube.
  • a.mann
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    LUClEN wrote: »
    People have to start seeing these kinds of exaggerated articles for what they are: emotion-driven, logic-deprived editorials.

    They can't help themselves...... basically

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  • LordZuko
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    deadeye wrote: »
    Her pic:




    8iogeooxkilb.jpg




    She kinda looks like a little bit on the stuckup/snobbish side.

    I'm surprised no one's said it yet...

    SMASH on that rooster lookin ? .

    This ? look like Tyler the creator
  • a.mann
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    In this click-bait age,in which "hits" = advertisement= which= $$$$$
    The more outrageous, provocative and controversial the article/blog/youtube vid......the more people generate
    toward them. The easily target is the black community.....men & women


    Tommy Sotomayor pretty much perfected this.

    These are not just professional trolls...but parasites
    Feeding off of animosity ,resentment and frustration within our community, because there IS an audience out there that actually believes the disingenuous ? they spew
  • blackrain
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    aneed123 wrote: »
    Blackrain whats so hard about comin in this thread denouncing what was done wrong to the men and leaving it at that? Instead u deflect to another thread about a girl eye. Perceptions gonna say u dont care about the black men

    If you clearly see me say the article is ? and choose to ignore that then that's on you. Asking a question isn't a deflection. Its just asking a question based on something the poster said
  • The Lonious Monk
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    Look I argued in the other topic til ? called me out for tap dancing. I stand by that. But if anybody is defending this ? , ? you and the ovaries that produced you.
  • blackrain
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    LordZuko wrote: »
    blackrain wrote: »
    LordZuko wrote: »
    blackrain wrote: »
    LordZuko wrote: »
    I've washed my hands of feminist influenced black women long ago. I'm glad to see my decision was correct.

    What's not said is just as important as whats not said. Pay attention to the lack of pushback from black females. See how their silence forms this tacit agreement amongst them.

    When i tell you black men that black women are not your enemy but are worse than an enemy don't act shocked. They let your enemies in through the back door. If it is disseminated and unchallenged that black men are terrorists, how then does that reflect in the public policy? What then will be demanded of black men to not be viewed and treated as such?

    The article is over the top...but the bold is interesting because right now there's a thread about a black women getting her eye taken out full of ? cracking jokes and anytime a thread comes up with a man killing a woman there's always some ? that come with a "see this is what child support can do to make a man go crazy" instead of just saying its ? up. So does that lack of pushback show the same condoning of actions?

    So you think jokes are serious now? You think that ? don't joke on each other if some ? up ? happens? It's called gallows humor. Dark humor. You think a rational man needs to be told not to de-oculate a ? , or hold up a crazy man as an obvious sign of what not to do in a tense situation?

    You know what i have seen tho? Anytime a woman burns a man's clothes, damages his car, maces him, physically assault him, i see tons of ? in the notes cheering it on, cosigning, and empathizing saying what they would've done. And usually it's over something petty.

    The only time I've seen ? blanketly cosign violence against ? is for some egregious ? like she put her hands on him or just did some foul outrageous ? . And even then you got ? that be on that "just walk away" ? .

    So no to compare obvious jokes to a ? black feminist manifesto is the epitome of false equivalence.

    I didn't compare the jokes to the article in this post. I took the logic you used and asked if it translates to something else. And you are being naive if you think that the only time ? cosign violence against women is in those situations.

    You didn't use my logic. When articles like this are met with outright agreement or tacit agreement. The number who would outright disagree and verbalize it is a number so small it is effectively zero.

    In contrast like the situation you submitted there is always a split among the males.

    A significant percentage of men think it is unacceptable for a man to be violent with a woman for any reason. While another significant percentage think violence is only acceptable in extreme situations.

    Very few men believe that a man should just be violent with a woman for no reason or petty reasons. In fact we think it's weak behavior.

    On the flip side we have experiments that show people are generally tolerant of female violence towards men and often find it amusing.

    The experiment is posted on YouTube.

    I asked if the logic you used about silence or lack of pushback equals agreement in other instances. You then say its just jokes in those said instances and shouldn't be taken serious...yet you believe that doesn't hold true for what you're criticizing. To some that would come off as hypocritical to label one set of dismissive comments as just jokes. Its not hard to see why someone could draw that conclusion.

    And yes I know too many think a woman hitting a man is either funny or not a big deal. You see both women and men pushing that mentality because of the idea that "a woman can't hurt a man" and it puts people in positions that can get them ? up.
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  • Madame_CJSkywalker
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    a.mann wrote: »
    In this click-bait age,in which "hits" = advertisement= which= $$$$$
    The more outrageous, provocative and controversial the article/blog/youtube vid......the more people generate
    toward them. The easily target is the black community.....men & women


    Tommy Sotomayor pretty much perfected this.

    These are not just professional trolls...but parasites
    Feeding off of animosity ,resentment and frustration within our community, because there IS an audience out there that actually believes the disingenuous ? they spew

    Agree to a certain extent

    I dont want to just dismiss her as being disingenuous... Because i agree with her assessment that many men including blk men are not receptive or dismissive of causes that women care about

    But more then anything else it aeems like she seen an opportunity to further stir the ? for hits and ran with it

    The story of the back and forth with the vendor person was petty

    The title..

    These types of antics aren't doing us any favors

    Maybe with the exception of sparking discussion
  • The Lonious Monk
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    a.mann wrote: »
    In this click-bait age,in which "hits" = advertisement= which= $$$$$
    The more outrageous, provocative and controversial the article/blog/youtube vid......the more people generate
    toward them. The easily target is the black community.....men & women


    Tommy Sotomayor pretty much perfected this.

    These are not just professional trolls...but parasites
    Feeding off of animosity ,resentment and frustration within our community, because there IS an audience out there that actually believes the disingenuous ? they spew

    Agree to a certain extent

    I dont want to just dismiss her as being disingenuous... Because i agree with her assessment that many men including blk men are not receptive or dismissive of causes that women care about

    But more then anything else it aeems like she seen an opportunity to further stir the ? for hits and ran with it

    The story of the back and forth with the vendor person was petty

    The title..

    These types of antics aren't doing us any favors

    Maybe with the exception of sparking discussion

    You don't think views like this and the reticence of women to condemn ? like this is part of the reason for the bold? That's what dudes in here have been trying to trek you.
  • LordZuko
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    blackrain wrote: »
    LordZuko wrote: »
    blackrain wrote: »
    LordZuko wrote: »
    blackrain wrote: »
    LordZuko wrote: »
    I've washed my hands of feminist influenced black women long ago. I'm glad to see my decision was correct.

    What's not said is just as important as whats not said. Pay attention to the lack of pushback from black females. See how their silence forms this tacit agreement amongst them.

    When i tell you black men that black women are not your enemy but are worse than an enemy don't act shocked. They let your enemies in through the back door. If it is disseminated and unchallenged that black men are terrorists, how then does that reflect in the public policy? What then will be demanded of black men to not be viewed and treated as such?

    The article is over the top...but the bold is interesting because right now there's a thread about a black women getting her eye taken out full of ? cracking jokes and anytime a thread comes up with a man killing a woman there's always some ? that come with a "see this is what child support can do to make a man go crazy" instead of just saying its ? up. So does that lack of pushback show the same condoning of actions?

    So you think jokes are serious now? You think that ? don't joke on each other if some ? up ? happens? It's called gallows humor. Dark humor. You think a rational man needs to be told not to de-oculate a ? , or hold up a crazy man as an obvious sign of what not to do in a tense situation?

    You know what i have seen tho? Anytime a woman burns a man's clothes, damages his car, maces him, physically assault him, i see tons of ? in the notes cheering it on, cosigning, and empathizing saying what they would've done. And usually it's over something petty.

    The only time I've seen ? blanketly cosign violence against ? is for some egregious ? like she put her hands on him or just did some foul outrageous ? . And even then you got ? that be on that "just walk away" ? .

    So no to compare obvious jokes to a ? black feminist manifesto is the epitome of false equivalence.

    I didn't compare the jokes to the article in this post. I took the logic you used and asked if it translates to something else. And you are being naive if you think that the only time ? cosign violence against women is in those situations.

    You didn't use my logic. When articles like this are met with outright agreement or tacit agreement. The number who would outright disagree and verbalize it is a number so small it is effectively zero.

    In contrast like the situation you submitted there is always a split among the males.

    A significant percentage of men think it is unacceptable for a man to be violent with a woman for any reason. While another significant percentage think violence is only acceptable in extreme situations.

    Very few men believe that a man should just be violent with a woman for no reason or petty reasons. In fact we think it's weak behavior.

    On the flip side we have experiments that show people are generally tolerant of female violence towards men and often find it amusing.

    The experiment is posted on YouTube.

    I asked if the logic you used about silence or lack of pushback equals agreement in other instances. You then say its just jokes in those said instances and shouldn't be taken serious...yet you believe that doesn't hold true for what you're criticizing. To some that would come off as hypocritical to label one set of dismissive comments as just jokes. Its not hard to see why someone could draw that conclusion.

    And yes I know too many think a woman hitting a man is either funny or not a big deal. You see both women and men pushing that mentality because of the idea that "a woman can't hurt a man" and it puts people in positions that can get them ? up.

    There's a difference between a claim and commentary purposefully in jest.

    The two aren't comparable. People who do try to draw comparisons or connections usually make leaps in logic with dubious thinking. These are the same people that would say ? jokes lead to ? .
  • LordZuko
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    a.mann wrote: »
    In this click-bait age,in which "hits" = advertisement= which= $$$$$
    The more outrageous, provocative and controversial the article/blog/youtube vid......the more people generate
    toward them. The easily target is the black community.....men & women


    Tommy Sotomayor pretty much perfected this.

    These are not just professional trolls...but parasites
    Feeding off of animosity ,resentment and frustration within our community, because there IS an audience out there that actually believes the disingenuous ? they spew

    Agree to a certain extent

    I dont want to just dismiss her as being disingenuous... Because i agree with her assessment that many men including blk men are not receptive or dismissive of causes that women care about

    But more then anything else it aeems like she seen an opportunity to further stir the ? for hits and ran with it

    The story of the back and forth with the vendor person was petty

    The title..

    These types of antics aren't doing us any favors

    Maybe with the exception of sparking discussion

    When the United States labeled middle eastern men as terrorists were they interested in "discussion" or aggressively pursuing a violent course of action?

    Exactly.

    There is no discussion. Not between black men and women. A terrorist is not someone you want to engage in discourse. A terrorist is an enemy.

    So unless i see pushback from black women regarding this article I'm going to assume that they at least silently agree. That will leave no doubt about the conclusion that black females are enemies which you vociferously deny despite evidence to the contrary.
  • The Lonious Monk
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    LordZuko wrote: »
    a.mann wrote: »
    In this click-bait age,in which "hits" = advertisement= which= $$$$$
    The more outrageous, provocative and controversial the article/blog/youtube vid......the more people generate
    toward them. The easily target is the black community.....men & women


    Tommy Sotomayor pretty much perfected this.

    These are not just professional trolls...but parasites
    Feeding off of animosity ,resentment and frustration within our community, because there IS an audience out there that actually believes the disingenuous ? they spew

    Agree to a certain extent

    I dont want to just dismiss her as being disingenuous... Because i agree with her assessment that many men including blk men are not receptive or dismissive of causes that women care about

    But more then anything else it aeems like she seen an opportunity to further stir the ? for hits and ran with it

    The story of the back and forth with the vendor person was petty

    The title..

    These types of antics aren't doing us any favors

    Maybe with the exception of sparking discussion

    When the United States labeled middle eastern men as terrorists were they interested in "discussion" or aggressively pursuing a violent course of action?

    Exactly.

    There is no discussion. Not between black men and women. A terrorist is not someone you want to engage in discourse. A terrorist is an enemy.

    So unless i see pushback from black women regarding this article I'm going to assume that they at least silently agree. That will leave no doubt about the conclusion that black females are enemies which you vociferously deny despite evidence to the contrary.

    Cosign this, at least in the case of feminists. I wouldn't say the average black woman thinks like this or even knows something like this ? article exists. But if you are a feminist and think ? like this is cool, then you should already know why black men view you as an enemy. And if that's the case, stop playing dumb and acting like you don't understand why black men don't listen to your concerns without antagonism.
  • Madame_CJSkywalker
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    a.mann wrote: »
    In this click-bait age,in which "hits" = advertisement= which= $$$$$
    The more outrageous, provocative and controversial the article/blog/youtube vid......the more people generate
    toward them. The easily target is the black community.....men & women


    Tommy Sotomayor pretty much perfected this.

    These are not just professional trolls...but parasites
    Feeding off of animosity ,resentment and frustration within our community, because there IS an audience out there that actually believes the disingenuous ? they spew

    Agree to a certain extent

    I dont want to just dismiss her as being disingenuous... Because i agree with her assessment that many men including blk men are not receptive or dismissive of causes that women care about

    But more then anything else it aeems like she seen an opportunity to further stir the ? for hits and ran with it

    The story of the back and forth with the vendor person was petty

    The title..

    These types of antics aren't doing us any favors

    Maybe with the exception of sparking discussion

    You don't think views like this and the reticence of women to condemn ? like this is part of the reason for the bold? That's what dudes in here have been trying to trek you.

    yes

    i have stated as much multiple times

    all i can do personally is call ppl out when appropriate

    but regardless of the extremest and opportunist do or say, the fact remains our society is a patriarchy ....white male patriarchy specifically

    male privilege on it's own does not imply guilt or complicity, it's simply a fact, a thing that exists. a thing that benefits men, especially white men, in US culture and day to day existence

    a thing that will continue to exist to the misfortune of women and or blk ppl, unless we address it

    complicity arises out of refusing to acknowledge that it exists, or actively or passively acting to perpetuate that imbalance...

    unless you want to believe that there is no such thing as male privilege...and by extension white male privilege

    if that is the case i'd have to ask why do white males control our economy and our government, and dominate our culture in virtually every corner? are we to assume it's a natural development, due to ....white male supremacy?????




  • 2stepz_ahead
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    aneed123 wrote: »
    Blackrain whats so hard about comin in this thread denouncing what was done wrong to the men and leaving it at that? Instead u deflect to another thread about a girl eye. Perceptions gonna say u dont care about the black men

    an thats why hes labeled a lesbian
  • The Lonious Monk
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    yes

    i have stated as much multiple times

    all i can do personally is call ppl out when appropriate

    but regardless of the extremest and opportunist do or say, the fact remains our society is a patriarchy ....white male patriarchy specifically

    male privilege on it's own does not imply guilt or complicity, it's simply a fact, a thing that exists. a thing that benefits men, especially white men, in US culture and day to day existence

    a thing that will continue to exist to the misfortune of women and or blk ppl, unless we address it

    complicity arises out of refusing to acknowledge that it exists, or actively or passively acting to perpetuate that imbalance...

    unless you want to believe that there is no such thing as male privilege...and by extension white male privilege

    if that is the case i'd have to ask why do white males control our economy and our government, and dominate our culture in virtually every corner? are we to assume it's a natural development, due to ....white male supremacy?????




    That's fair.

    Yes, I do believe there is a such thing as male privilege, but I don't believe black males benefit from it anywhere near as black feminists claim. I mean, when we talk about white privilege, we can pull up stats and show how whites are above blacks in most areas even when there is no real reason they should be. It's the opposite when you look at black man vs black woman, so how are we privileged? Because Cornell West gets more attention than some black woman professor you think is just as smart? That's weak, and doesn't even apply to the average black man on the street.
  • blackrain
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    aneed123 wrote: »
    Blackrain whats so hard about comin in this thread denouncing what was done wrong to the men and leaving it at that? Instead u deflect to another thread about a girl eye. Perceptions gonna say u dont care about the black men

    an thats why hes labeled a lesbian

    And you're labeled a weirdo ass sellout from Philly with ? baby mothers who stunts for the internet until called out...but what's a label really?
  • 2stepz_ahead
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    blackrain wrote: »
    aneed123 wrote: »
    Blackrain whats so hard about comin in this thread denouncing what was done wrong to the men and leaving it at that? Instead u deflect to another thread about a girl eye. Perceptions gonna say u dont care about the black men

    an thats why hes labeled a lesbian

    And you're labeled a weirdo ass sellout from Philly with ? baby mothers who stunts for the internet until called out...but what's a label really?

    Feeling A bit hurt?
  • blackrain
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    blackrain wrote: »
    aneed123 wrote: »
    Blackrain whats so hard about comin in this thread denouncing what was done wrong to the men and leaving it at that? Instead u deflect to another thread about a girl eye. Perceptions gonna say u dont care about the black men

    an thats why hes labeled a lesbian

    And you're labeled a weirdo ass sellout from Philly with ? baby mothers who stunts for the internet until called out...but what's a label really?

    Feeling A bit hurt?

    Lol hell no. My life is great
  • 2stepz_ahead
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    blackrain wrote: »
    blackrain wrote: »
    aneed123 wrote: »
    Blackrain whats so hard about comin in this thread denouncing what was done wrong to the men and leaving it at that? Instead u deflect to another thread about a girl eye. Perceptions gonna say u dont care about the black men

    an thats why hes labeled a lesbian

    And you're labeled a weirdo ass sellout from Philly with ? baby mothers who stunts for the internet until called out...but what's a label really?

    Feeling A bit hurt?

    Lol hell no. My life is great

    Ok...but why you mad tho?

  • JokerzWyld
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    She obviously doesn't want our attention so I think Black men should ignore her. What say you Black men?
  • KingFreeman
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    blackrain wrote: »
    aneed123 wrote: »
    Blackrain whats so hard about comin in this thread denouncing what was done wrong to the men and leaving it at that? Instead u deflect to another thread about a girl eye. Perceptions gonna say u dont care about the black men

    an thats why hes labeled a lesbian

    And you're labeled a weirdo ass sellout from Philly with ? baby mothers who stunts for the internet until called out...but what's a label really?

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