The Nagging Mom: What the **** is up with women and censorship?
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The Lonious Monk wrote: »VulcanRaven wrote: »HundredEyes wrote: »Madame_CJSkywalker wrote: »How ridiculous. People don't have water, people don't have homes, people don't have rights but by gawd we gotta fight the male gaze.
lol
smh
says the person crying about women wanting fair and balance representation across mediums
what about your priorities bruh
i'm only responding to a thread you created
Co sign this ? to the fullest.
Wtf are those developers, artists etc thinking using their so called imagination, creativity and dare I say it...free will and money...
We need panels...people who check these fools worldwide on the ? they make up. Put everyone in boxes and corner them all up so that people of all walks of life are probably represented...
? , I for one am absolutely disgusted that senior citizens did not get the proper representation in Dragon Ball Super...Japan has more elderly than young folk.
And why are there barely any bald headed or bearded up super heroes? Evidently there are loads of bald headed mofos out there....and what did we get? One punch man? The ? ? Batman has been rocking the cowl for decades yet his hairline never fades?
Worst book ever written was the Lord of the rings..orcs, dwarves, wizards....but no Asian women?
And don't even get me started on game of thrones...white walkers? No black walkers? Mist be two sides.
Like you I'm tired and fed up reading, watching and hearing all types of ? other people created that doesn't reflect my grand understanding of the world.
You are on point, but you missed the biggest issue of all with Game of Thrones. Why no land dragons b? She got flying dragons but not all dragons can fly. Why they don't add no diversity by having land dragons. They can't fly but they are still dragons.
GoT dragons aren't even dragons technically. They are wyverns. Martin just does his own thing, so in his world all dragons fly.
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The Lonious Monk wrote: »VulcanRaven wrote: »HundredEyes wrote: »Madame_CJSkywalker wrote: »How ridiculous. People don't have water, people don't have homes, people don't have rights but by gawd we gotta fight the male gaze.
lol
smh
says the person crying about women wanting fair and balance representation across mediums
what about your priorities bruh
i'm only responding to a thread you created
Co sign this ? to the fullest.
Wtf are those developers, artists etc thinking using their so called imagination, creativity and dare I say it...free will and money...
We need panels...people who check these fools worldwide on the ? they make up. Put everyone in boxes and corner them all up so that people of all walks of life are probably represented...
? , I for one am absolutely disgusted that senior citizens did not get the proper representation in Dragon Ball Super...Japan has more elderly than young folk.
And why are there barely any bald headed or bearded up super heroes? Evidently there are loads of bald headed mofos out there....and what did we get? One punch man? The ? ? Batman has been rocking the cowl for decades yet his hairline never fades?
Worst book ever written was the Lord of the rings..orcs, dwarves, wizards....but no Asian women?
And don't even get me started on game of thrones...white walkers? No black walkers? Mist be two sides.
Like you I'm tired and fed up reading, watching and hearing all types of ? other people created that doesn't reflect my grand understanding of the world.
You are on point, but you missed the biggest issue of all with Game of Thrones. Why no land dragons b? She got flying dragons but not all dragons can fly. Why they don't add no diversity by having land dragons. They can't fly but they are still dragons.
GoT dragons aren't even dragons technically. They are wyverns. Martin just does his own thing, so in his world all dragons fly.
Lol I was waiting on a "nerd" post. You did not disappoint. -
@Madame_CJSkywalker.
I peeped her move man.
She literally googles talking points. She's never mentioned any of this stuff nor posted in a video game thread or comic book thread or in lca.
she was coming off like an ass talking about video games and Comics from this outsider perspective. Her posts didn't come off experiential at all. Vague ambiguous just standard talking points. She didn't name one game or comic book character until gta v.
Realizing she was sounding like a lame she went and researched.
Who's your team on 2k?
What player you think overrated?
What's your gamertag?
Why you so fake. It's ok to be wrong.
She literally googled "popular dbz saga"
Who was the ? ? in that saga? And why?
my team on 2k? rockets, blazers
overrated? steph
not telling you my gamer tag lol
i was shipping vegta and bulma in elementary ?
and i more so lurk in the other subforums ...
you can believe me or not....it's cool
having a difference of opinion doesn't make me fake or necessarily wrong. i'm not the only person to have these complaints, make these observations
and a dozen or so female protagonist doesn't mean ? when out of the hundreds of games, comics released over the years have male protagonists and/or perpetuate sexist stereotypes and the such -
VulcanRaven wrote: »Madame_CJSkywalker wrote: »
right now i'm playing breath of the wild and nba 2k alil
dope how nba live now has wnba teams
but yea the issue is there aren't a great variety of games with female protagonist...things are changing though
lol @ narcissistic ? ....
like others i just want video games, comic industry to not perpetuate negative, sexist stereotypes
and realize women and poc like the ? too...we want to see more of ourselves in a variety of different capacities ....and not just characters that are villains or comic relief or tokens or sexual objects
as a customer of these products think we all have a bit of a right to make request or voice our complaints ...same as ppl can argue the new iron man being a blk girl is a stupid idea
but sure i would think i was being petty or it was just me "nagging" if i was a straight man too
*shrugs*
The bold is hypocritical don't you think? Zelda has always made the titular princess a weak damsel in distress despite the game being named after her. She is the stereotypical weak female from the history of fiction that needs a brave male to save her. Then NBA2K is nothing but masculine (some feminine) men bouncing a ball. Many have pointed out several games with female characters and you are not or have not played any of them. What are you complaining about again?
lol
zelda is far from the worst offender....been a fan since ocarina of time though... had the gold joint
and i can't like playing simulated basketball because i'm actually a big basketball fan? why? there is no wnba offerings until now if you want to count nba live lol ....what about nba 2k actually perpetuates negative stereotypes ?
how do you know i hasn't played metroid prime or resident evil or that i don't own zero dawn
never said didn't
i said women and poc as protagonist are underrepresented...
un·der·rep·re·sent
ˌəndə(r)ˌreprəˈzent/Submit
verb
past tense: underrepresented; past participle: underrepresented
provide with insufficient or inadequate representation.
"women are underrepresented at high levels"
there are actually studies that support my claims... here is just one of many
A RECENT REPORT released by the USC Annenberg School for Communication says that videogames don't represent American society any better than television does.
It also pointed out that though 10 percent of the playable characters found were female, women make up 40 percent of the gaming population
https://www.wired.com/2009/07/minorities-in-videogames/
throwing out names like lara croft proves nothing.... though i was a tomb rider fan growing up... spent a lot of time running around her mansion with the butler -
SuperManuel wrote: »Madame_CJSkywalker wrote: »VulcanRaven wrote: »Madame_CJSkywalker wrote: »VulcanRaven wrote: »Madame_CJSkywalker wrote: »Madame_CJSkywalker wrote: »Madame_CJSkywalker wrote: »SuperManuel wrote: »That's the crazy thing to me. So much of this ? is fake. I grew up under the impression that ? who read comics, play video games etc were nerds who got no ? and were actively shunned by outsiders.
A movie like the 40 Year Old ? encapsulated this idea. What was the first thing his friends did when they tried to get him some ? ? They wanted to get rid of all his collectibles and nerd stuff because it was ? repellent.
For years this was true:
But out of nowhere it seems like women care so much now about what guys are doing in games or comics
true but girls was always gaming. they only played kiddie ? like super Mario or Kirby though.
That's what folks dont get.
Women read comics and manga too but it ain't the same ? men read.
People think everybody should do everything. Sometimes people just ain't interested!
Women and girls buy and or read comics and such that is women friendly... Even though we make up a significant portion of the market very little is catered towards us which is a part of the problem
And at the end of the day we live in a capitalist society
The ultimate goal is to expend ur market to make more money
That means making comics more accessible to minorities including women, poc and ? now that they have more buying power
Comics, and video games to a lesser extent, also have a long history of racist caricature that the industry is now grapling with
There are more blk super heroes
And recently batman confronts police racism in latest comic book so you have a problem with that?
Should the industry not be held responsible for the misogyny and racism they perpetuate
Should the industry not feel as though they have a social responsibility to address these things? Or rather why do yall have such a big problem with it
*shrugs*
Before anyone starts most popular female spaces and publications do not perpetuate the same contempt for anything other and objectification of the opposite sex at all. most of them is centered around what women can do to keep a man, i.e. lose weight, tone, makeup, head manuals etc
Your problem is that you're making something that's not political -- political!
Watch whatever you want, read whatever you want nobody gives a ? .
People give a ? when you decide to change what they want into some ? you want.
Nobody wants to be preached to or lambasted for liking something. Move on. Take all that nagging ? somewhere else, ? was having fun over here.
If you really liked something, you wouldn't go out of your way to change it. It's that type of thinking that is ruining fun ventures.
All this policing of the imagination, telling people what they can and can't fantasize about or buy with their money... ? is arrogant as ? .
Everything ain't about you and your politics.
Get the ? on!
get out your feelings
comics, video games are inherently political because there is no real distinction between politics and stories about the world .... american superhero comics like super man and xmen for instance were political from their earliest days
in the 40s superman was a champion for the oppressed fighting wealthy industrialists and crooked politicians
and it's not about changing what makes comic books and video games video games and comic books... like i said its about practicing social responsibility and expanding the market
again comics and video games aren't just becoming more woman friendly, the industry has made a concerted effort to reach out to poc....even the disabled more than they have done in the past
is that bad? lol
this idea that its about women nagging and wanting to ruin male spaces is your male privilege talking
The industry was never anti-woman, you can't find a single thing that ever said women were welcome.
Female writers and editors going back 30 years
Female characters going back 60-70 years where is this ? you talking about?
lol
in video games and comics?
the humor
they way women are drawn and dressed.... the overt sexualization
the tendency to turn women into expendable plot accessories to further the hero’s arc opposed to 3 dimensional characters
same as for most mediums, male characters are given the overwhelming majority of the speaking lines
we have video games where you can only play male characters who have the ability to pick up and ? female prostitutes
wasn't a big, big comic book reader growing up but that was because of the aforementioned and my parents wasn't with it and all the violence
Actually know the facts. You have no credibility on this topic. You can ? anyone in GTA, not just prostitutes. You obviously never played the game or are just pushing an agenda.
The second bold, so you never were allowed to read comics but claiming women were represented a certain way...how would you know if you weren't allowed to read them? Once again, you are pushing an agenda based on no facts at all. Then it wouldn't matter anyway since your parents were against comic violence lol.
Stop talking about things you have no knowledge or experience with. It makes you look ignorant.
i'm 30 ...i have been able do as i please without the consent of my parents for a while including read comics
i have 4 older brothers who enjoy comics
and been a fan of gta since it was 2d lol
not til i got older did i grow uncomfortable with the game play and it started to bother me there were no playable female protagonist in gta 5 for ex or did female characters historically have major roles
you can ? anyone, but that is besides the point
having no female protagonist, little to no female characters with major roles, and on top of having female prostitutes you can pick up, have sex with and ? is the issue
You don't have to do anything lol. Killing prostitutes is a choice. Why does GTA need female characters as a lead or support? It won't make the game better and that is pushing an agenda once again. The characters in GTA are irrelevant if you enjoy the game. Go play a game that has a female lead or supporting characters. There are many. Out of all the ? up sgit in GTA you are angry about the ability to ? a prostitute? rofl
No gta a lot of ? up ? happens, can happen
But considering that female prositutes are some of the most vulnerable and preyed upon members of our society along with the fact no female characters played prominent roles tht made it even more disturbing
Most npcs in gta are vunrable. Play gta online you can create your own femal character . You can make her look like you.Gta 5 story mode is garbage.
i know
i brought up gta because its one of the most highest rated and highest selling video games of all time
and again its disturbing that in the main game, with the exception of bruh's auntie or an ex wife, women are primarily there to be brought for sex and/or killed -
@Stew
@ILLBOT bonsoir
Can yo please eject @Madame_CJSkywalker from the thread for
Ignorance
Aggressive feminism aka SPEWING ? FOR TWO DAYS?
? damn!! Is this the typical woman yall have to deal with on a daily basis? If yes i feel bad for yall. WTF is this?
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Nah, let her argue her points. Folk don't get anywhere shutting down debate.
If she were trolling I'd be all for it but she's not as far as I can see -
Nah, let her argue her points. Folk don't get anywhere shutting down debate.
If she were trolling I'd be all for it but she's not as far as I can see
I aint got no time for google specialists. She has demonstrated that she got no clue about comics , video games and genders dynamics.
She came with a shitload of ? and we checked her. Instead of listening and falling back she keeps up with the nonsense.
But its ok, proceed @Madame_CJSkywalker -
Madame_CJSkywalker wrote: »@Madame_CJSkywalker.
I peeped her move man.
She literally googles talking points. She's never mentioned any of this stuff nor posted in a video game thread or comic book thread or in lca.
she was coming off like an ass talking about video games and Comics from this outsider perspective. Her posts didn't come off experiential at all. Vague ambiguous just standard talking points. She didn't name one game or comic book character until gta v.
Realizing she was sounding like a lame she went and researched.
Who's your team on 2k?
What player you think overrated?
What's your gamertag?
Why you so fake. It's ok to be wrong.
She literally googled "popular dbz saga"
Who was the ? ? in that saga? And why?
my team on 2k? rockets, blazers
overrated? steph
not telling you my gamer tag lol
i was shipping vegta and bulma in elementary ?
and i more so lurk in the other subforums ...
you can believe me or not....it's cool
having a difference of opinion doesn't make me fake or necessarily wrong. i'm not the only person to have these complaints, make these observations
and a dozen or so female protagonist doesn't mean ? when out of the hundreds of games, comics released over the years have male protagonists and/or perpetuate sexist stereotypes and the such
Dozens of female characters.
Try hundreds.
Your opinions are stupid. They are literally the most uninformed drivel. You're an ideologue. Your agenda is to see sexism no matter what and if you can't find it you'll create it.
This is the hallmark of a fake fan
The only opinions you have are popular opinions. You don't possess one controversial opinion about anything.
But you claim to be a gamer. You probably play candy crush. I know female gamers, comic fans, and anime heads.
Saying steph is overrated is a popular opinion. Anyone can google that.
Saying you ship vegeta and bulma? Popular opinion.
You parrot other people's thoughts on issues. You don't have an opinion because that requires some level of relationship with the source material. You don't have it.
You're fake. That's a fact not an opinion.
You are what this whole thread is about a nagging ? . Your version of fun is ruining man fun. Women don't go and create their own version of fun.
First they call men fun stupid.
Then when they see that it's dope they whine and ? for men to let them in.
Men don't wanna let you in because one of the major reasons for developing fun is to get away from women.
Then when men let Women in they want to change ? to suit them, make them comfortable.
"I don't like all this ? and ass around here, it makes me uncomfortable as a woman"
"Why aren't there more female characters, as a woman i want to be represented"
"Why is this game so violent, as a woman i feel uncomfortable with it being so accessible to children"
As a woman, as female members of human race, you all are insufferable, entitled, irritating, harpies.
If men aren't trying to use you like a ? puppet, we're actively trying to get away from you. You all are not pleasant to be around. As much trash as you talk about men, females always follow men around to the fun ? .
Ruining it.
Stop bringing race into it. Asian, black, and Hispanic men don't need your voice.
Give one example of man fun that women have not tried to ruin?
@Madame_CJSkywalker
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Madame_CJSkywalker wrote: »@Madame_CJSkywalker.
I peeped her move man.
She literally googles talking points. She's never mentioned any of this stuff nor posted in a video game thread or comic book thread or in lca.
she was coming off like an ass talking about video games and Comics from this outsider perspective. Her posts didn't come off experiential at all. Vague ambiguous just standard talking points. She didn't name one game or comic book character until gta v.
Realizing she was sounding like a lame she went and researched.
Who's your team on 2k?
What player you think overrated?
What's your gamertag?
Why you so fake. It's ok to be wrong.
She literally googled "popular dbz saga"
Who was the ? ? in that saga? And why?
my team on 2k? rockets, blazers
overrated? steph
not telling you my gamer tag lol
i was shipping vegta and bulma in elementary ?
and i more so lurk in the other subforums ...
you can believe me or not....it's cool
having a difference of opinion doesn't make me fake or necessarily wrong. i'm not the only person to have these complaints, make these observations
and a dozen or so female protagonist doesn't mean ? when out of the hundreds of games, comics released over the years have male protagonists and/or perpetuate sexist stereotypes and the such
Dozens of female characters.
Try hundreds.
Your opinions are stupid. They are literally the most uninformed drivel. You're an ideologue. Your agenda is to see sexism no matter what and if you can't find it you'll create it.
This is the hallmark of a fake fan
The only opinions you have are popular opinions. You don't possess one controversial opinion about anything.
But you claim to be a gamer. You probably play candy crush. I know female gamers, comic fans, and anime heads.
Saying steph is overrated is a popular opinion. Anyone can google that.
Saying you ship vegeta and bulma? Popular opinion.
You parrot other people's thoughts on issues. You don't have an opinion because that requires some level of relationship with the source material. You don't have it.
You're fake. That's a fact not an opinion.
You are what this whole thread is about a nagging ? . Your version of fun is ruining man fun. Women don't go and create their own version of fun.
First they call men fun stupid.
Then when they see that it's dope they whine and ? for men to let them in.
Men don't wanna let you in because one of the major reasons for developing fun is to get away from women.
Then when men let Women in they want to change ? to suit them, make them comfortable.
"I don't like all this ? and ass around here, it makes me uncomfortable as a woman"
"Why aren't there more female characters, as a woman i want to be represented"
"Why is this game so violent, as a woman i feel uncomfortable with it being so accessible to children"
As a woman, as female members of human race, you all are insufferable, entitled, irritating, harpies.
If men aren't trying to use you like a ? puppet, we're actively trying to get away from you. You all are not pleasant to be around. As much trash as you talk about men, females always follow men around to the fun ? .
Ruining it.
Stop bringing race into it. Asian, black, and Hispanic men don't need your voice.
Give one example of man fun that women have not tried to ruin?
@Madame_CJSkywalker
Merci monsieur. Well said. The recents amount of FEMINAZISM related thread just shows that we are sick and tired of this ? .
And guess what MORE WOMEN are getting fed up too. They see the current 28 - 44 yo generation of female SAD TIRED AND LONELY.
Yesterday i was laughing at a woman who was asking a 24 yo man to marry her. The Disney, Sex and the City and YOU GO GIRL era is craching hard. These women got out of the house to march for less ? and more ? in comic books. They got out the house to get more free meals and drinks. They got out the house not to go to the gym but instead to get fat like never before, hit the wall earlier than before.
They want to be men, not evolve as women. But biology and age will put them in there places. SEXANDROIDS is already making them sweating. And its just the begining.
The only culture these feminazy have created is the one of ?
Male gaze
Comic books gender equality
Video games gender equality
? walk
Tinderella
Govenment hookering aka making babies and riding on the section 8.
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Madame_CJSkywalker wrote: »@Madame_CJSkywalker.
I peeped her move man.
She literally googles talking points. She's never mentioned any of this stuff nor posted in a video game thread or comic book thread or in lca.
she was coming off like an ass talking about video games and Comics from this outsider perspective. Her posts didn't come off experiential at all. Vague ambiguous just standard talking points. She didn't name one game or comic book character until gta v.
Realizing she was sounding like a lame she went and researched.
Who's your team on 2k?
What player you think overrated?
What's your gamertag?
Why you so fake. It's ok to be wrong.
She literally googled "popular dbz saga"
Who was the ? ? in that saga? And why?
my team on 2k? rockets, blazers
overrated? steph
not telling you my gamer tag lol
i was shipping vegta and bulma in elementary ?
and i more so lurk in the other subforums ...
you can believe me or not....it's cool
having a difference of opinion doesn't make me fake or necessarily wrong. i'm not the only person to have these complaints, make these observations
and a dozen or so female protagonist doesn't mean ? when out of the hundreds of games, comics released over the years have male protagonists and/or perpetuate sexist stereotypes and the such
Dozens of female characters.
Try hundreds.
Your opinions are stupid. They are literally the most uninformed drivel. You're an ideologue. Your agenda is to see sexism no matter what and if you can't find it you'll create it.
This is the hallmark of a fake fan
The only opinions you have are popular opinions. You don't possess one controversial opinion about anything.
But you claim to be a gamer. You probably play candy crush. I know female gamers, comic fans, and anime heads.
Saying steph is overrated is a popular opinion. Anyone can google that.
Saying you ship vegeta and bulma? Popular opinion.
You parrot other people's thoughts on issues. You don't have an opinion because that requires some level of relationship with the source material. You don't have it.
You're fake. That's a fact not an opinion.
You are what this whole thread is about a nagging ? . Your version of fun is ruining man fun. Women don't go and create their own version of fun.
First they call men fun stupid.
Then when they see that it's dope they whine and ? for men to let them in.
Men don't wanna let you in because one of the major reasons for developing fun is to get away from women.
Then when men let Women in they want to change ? to suit them, make them comfortable.
"I don't like all this ? and ass around here, it makes me uncomfortable as a woman"
"Why aren't there more female characters, as a woman i want to be represented"
"Why is this game so violent, as a woman i feel uncomfortable with it being so accessible to children"
As a woman, as female members of human race, you all are insufferable, entitled, irritating, harpies.
If men aren't trying to use you like a ? puppet, we're actively trying to get away from you. You all are not pleasant to be around. As much trash as you talk about men, females always follow men around to the fun ? .
Ruining it.
Stop bringing race into it. Asian, black, and Hispanic men don't need your voice.
Give one example of man fun that women have not tried to ruin?
@Madame_CJSkywalker
lol @exposing me
I means the dozen or so female protagonist mentioned in this thread
Do you know what underrepresented means? Ur a smart dude so stop being disingenuous
And saying a two time mvp and two time champion is overrated is a popular opinion now?
smh...i would never be able to satisfy you
and for my opinion to be so stupid you've spent a great amount of keystrokes trying to deflect and discredit me...
has work has slowed down? what is it that you do with ur time?
and wtf is man fun???? -
LEMZIMUS_RAMSEY wrote: »Madame_CJSkywalker wrote: »@Madame_CJSkywalker.
I peeped her move man.
She literally googles talking points. She's never mentioned any of this stuff nor posted in a video game thread or comic book thread or in lca.
she was coming off like an ass talking about video games and Comics from this outsider perspective. Her posts didn't come off experiential at all. Vague ambiguous just standard talking points. She didn't name one game or comic book character until gta v.
Realizing she was sounding like a lame she went and researched.
Who's your team on 2k?
What player you think overrated?
What's your gamertag?
Why you so fake. It's ok to be wrong.
She literally googled "popular dbz saga"
Who was the ? ? in that saga? And why?
my team on 2k? rockets, blazers
overrated? steph
not telling you my gamer tag lol
i was shipping vegta and bulma in elementary ?
and i more so lurk in the other subforums ...
you can believe me or not....it's cool
having a difference of opinion doesn't make me fake or necessarily wrong. i'm not the only person to have these complaints, make these observations
and a dozen or so female protagonist doesn't mean ? when out of the hundreds of games, comics released over the years have male protagonists and/or perpetuate sexist stereotypes and the such
Dozens of female characters.
Try hundreds.
Your opinions are stupid. They are literally the most uninformed drivel. You're an ideologue. Your agenda is to see sexism no matter what and if you can't find it you'll create it.
This is the hallmark of a fake fan
The only opinions you have are popular opinions. You don't possess one controversial opinion about anything.
But you claim to be a gamer. You probably play candy crush. I know female gamers, comic fans, and anime heads.
Saying steph is overrated is a popular opinion. Anyone can google that.
Saying you ship vegeta and bulma? Popular opinion.
You parrot other people's thoughts on issues. You don't have an opinion because that requires some level of relationship with the source material. You don't have it.
You're fake. That's a fact not an opinion.
You are what this whole thread is about a nagging ? . Your version of fun is ruining man fun. Women don't go and create their own version of fun.
First they call men fun stupid.
Then when they see that it's dope they whine and ? for men to let them in.
Men don't wanna let you in because one of the major reasons for developing fun is to get away from women.
Then when men let Women in they want to change ? to suit them, make them comfortable.
"I don't like all this ? and ass around here, it makes me uncomfortable as a woman"
"Why aren't there more female characters, as a woman i want to be represented"
"Why is this game so violent, as a woman i feel uncomfortable with it being so accessible to children"
As a woman, as female members of human race, you all are insufferable, entitled, irritating, harpies.
If men aren't trying to use you like a ? puppet, we're actively trying to get away from you. You all are not pleasant to be around. As much trash as you talk about men, females always follow men around to the fun ? .
Ruining it.
Stop bringing race into it. Asian, black, and Hispanic men don't need your voice.
Give one example of man fun that women have not tried to ruin?
@Madame_CJSkywalker
Merci monsieur. Well said. The recents amount of FEMINAZISM related thread just shows that we are sick and tired of this ? .
And guess what MORE WOMEN are getting fed up too. They see the current 28 - 44 yo generation of female SAD TIRED AND LONELY.
Yesterday i was laughing at a woman who was asking a 24 yo man to marry her. The Disney, Sex and the City and YOU GO GIRL era is craching hard. These women got out of the house to march for less ? and more ? in comic books. They got out the house to get more free meals and drinks. They got out the house not to go to the gym but instead to get fat like never before, hit the wall earlier than before.
They want to be men, not evolve as women. But biology and age will put them in there places. SEXANDROIDS is already making them sweating. And its just the begining.
The only culture these feminazy have created is the one of ?
Male gaze
Comic books gender equality
Video games gender equality
? walk
Tinderella
Govenment hookering aka making babies and riding on the section 8.
what? lol...this is sad
SEXANDROIDS is making who sweat exactly?
and you seem to be arguing disney and shows like sex in the city have influenced women for the worst, but when i make the case video games and comics don't do a good job of portraying poc and women it is "who cares" "that's ridiculous" "it's just entertainment"
smh
ok...lem
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Madame_CJSkywalker wrote: »VulcanRaven wrote: »Madame_CJSkywalker wrote: »
right now i'm playing breath of the wild and nba 2k alil
dope how nba live now has wnba teams
but yea the issue is there aren't a great variety of games with female protagonist...things are changing though
lol @ narcissistic ? ....
like others i just want video games, comic industry to not perpetuate negative, sexist stereotypes
and realize women and poc like the ? too...we want to see more of ourselves in a variety of different capacities ....and not just characters that are villains or comic relief or tokens or sexual objects
as a customer of these products think we all have a bit of a right to make request or voice our complaints ...same as ppl can argue the new iron man being a blk girl is a stupid idea
but sure i would think i was being petty or it was just me "nagging" if i was a straight man too
*shrugs*
The bold is hypocritical don't you think? Zelda has always made the titular princess a weak damsel in distress despite the game being named after her. She is the stereotypical weak female from the history of fiction that needs a brave male to save her. Then NBA2K is nothing but masculine (some feminine) men bouncing a ball. Many have pointed out several games with female characters and you are not or have not played any of them. What are you complaining about again?
lol
zelda is far from the worst offender....been a fan since ocarina of time though... had the gold joint
and i can't like playing simulated basketball because i'm actually a big basketball fan? why? there is no wnba offerings until now if you want to count nba live lol ....what about nba 2k actually perpetuates negative stereotypes ?
how do you know i hasn't played metroid prime or resident evil or that i don't own zero dawn
never said didn't
i said women and poc as protagonist are underrepresented...
un·der·rep·re·sent
ˌəndə(r)ˌreprəˈzent/Submit
verb
past tense: underrepresented; past participle: underrepresented
provide with insufficient or inadequate representation.
"women are underrepresented at high levels"
there are actually studies that support my claims... here is just one of many
A RECENT REPORT released by the USC Annenberg School for Communication says that videogames don't represent American society any better than television does.
It also pointed out that though 10 percent of the playable characters found were female, women make up 40 percent of the gaming population
https://www.wired.com/2009/07/minorities-in-videogames/
throwing out names like lara croft proves nothing.... though i was a tomb rider fan growing up... spent a lot of time running around her mansion with the butler
Your whole argument was that there are no games catering to females and it has been destroyed repeatedly in this thread with facts. Plenty of females plat GTA as stated so once again you are wrong. Then you keep posted biased articles when I am actually connected to the gaming community. Some the biggest streamers are women. There are more males gamers than female gamers so by the demographics they are not under represented. You don't seem to understand how demographics work. Most females play games with male protagonists just like you are doing with Zelda. -
Madame_CJSkywalker wrote: »LEMZIMUS_RAMSEY wrote: »Madame_CJSkywalker wrote: »@Madame_CJSkywalker.
I peeped her move man.
She literally googles talking points. She's never mentioned any of this stuff nor posted in a video game thread or comic book thread or in lca.
she was coming off like an ass talking about video games and Comics from this outsider perspective. Her posts didn't come off experiential at all. Vague ambiguous just standard talking points. She didn't name one game or comic book character until gta v.
Realizing she was sounding like a lame she went and researched.
Who's your team on 2k?
What player you think overrated?
What's your gamertag?
Why you so fake. It's ok to be wrong.
She literally googled "popular dbz saga"
Who was the ? ? in that saga? And why?
my team on 2k? rockets, blazers
overrated? steph
not telling you my gamer tag lol
i was shipping vegta and bulma in elementary ?
and i more so lurk in the other subforums ...
you can believe me or not....it's cool
having a difference of opinion doesn't make me fake or necessarily wrong. i'm not the only person to have these complaints, make these observations
and a dozen or so female protagonist doesn't mean ? when out of the hundreds of games, comics released over the years have male protagonists and/or perpetuate sexist stereotypes and the such
Dozens of female characters.
Try hundreds.
Your opinions are stupid. They are literally the most uninformed drivel. You're an ideologue. Your agenda is to see sexism no matter what and if you can't find it you'll create it.
This is the hallmark of a fake fan
The only opinions you have are popular opinions. You don't possess one controversial opinion about anything.
But you claim to be a gamer. You probably play candy crush. I know female gamers, comic fans, and anime heads.
Saying steph is overrated is a popular opinion. Anyone can google that.
Saying you ship vegeta and bulma? Popular opinion.
You parrot other people's thoughts on issues. You don't have an opinion because that requires some level of relationship with the source material. You don't have it.
You're fake. That's a fact not an opinion.
You are what this whole thread is about a nagging ? . Your version of fun is ruining man fun. Women don't go and create their own version of fun.
First they call men fun stupid.
Then when they see that it's dope they whine and ? for men to let them in.
Men don't wanna let you in because one of the major reasons for developing fun is to get away from women.
Then when men let Women in they want to change ? to suit them, make them comfortable.
"I don't like all this ? and ass around here, it makes me uncomfortable as a woman"
"Why aren't there more female characters, as a woman i want to be represented"
"Why is this game so violent, as a woman i feel uncomfortable with it being so accessible to children"
As a woman, as female members of human race, you all are insufferable, entitled, irritating, harpies.
If men aren't trying to use you like a ? puppet, we're actively trying to get away from you. You all are not pleasant to be around. As much trash as you talk about men, females always follow men around to the fun ? .
Ruining it.
Stop bringing race into it. Asian, black, and Hispanic men don't need your voice.
Give one example of man fun that women have not tried to ruin?
@Madame_CJSkywalker
Merci monsieur. Well said. The recents amount of FEMINAZISM related thread just shows that we are sick and tired of this ? .
And guess what MORE WOMEN are getting fed up too. They see the current 28 - 44 yo generation of female SAD TIRED AND LONELY.
Yesterday i was laughing at a woman who was asking a 24 yo man to marry her. The Disney, Sex and the City and YOU GO GIRL era is craching hard. These women got out of the house to march for less ? and more ? in comic books. They got out the house to get more free meals and drinks. They got out the house not to go to the gym but instead to get fat like never before, hit the wall earlier than before.
They want to be men, not evolve as women. But biology and age will put them in there places. SEXANDROIDS is already making them sweating. And its just the begining.
The only culture these feminazy have created is the one of ?
Male gaze
Comic books gender equality
Video games gender equality
? walk
Tinderella
Govenment hookering aka making babies and riding on the section 8.
what? lol...this is sad
SEXANDROIDS is making who sweat exactly?
and you seem to be arguing disney and shows like sex in the city have influenced women for the worst, but when i make the case video games and comics don't do a good job of portraying poc and women it is "who cares" "that's ridiculous" "it's just entertainment"
smh
ok...lem
Sadness is an emotion. Im speaking facts.
Comics and video games are the last sectors social justice warriors need to bother and try to influence.
Get out of feminazism. -
VulcanRaven wrote: »Madame_CJSkywalker wrote: »VulcanRaven wrote: »Madame_CJSkywalker wrote: »
right now i'm playing breath of the wild and nba 2k alil
dope how nba live now has wnba teams
but yea the issue is there aren't a great variety of games with female protagonist...things are changing though
lol @ narcissistic ? ....
like others i just want video games, comic industry to not perpetuate negative, sexist stereotypes
and realize women and poc like the ? too...we want to see more of ourselves in a variety of different capacities ....and not just characters that are villains or comic relief or tokens or sexual objects
as a customer of these products think we all have a bit of a right to make request or voice our complaints ...same as ppl can argue the new iron man being a blk girl is a stupid idea
but sure i would think i was being petty or it was just me "nagging" if i was a straight man too
*shrugs*
The bold is hypocritical don't you think? Zelda has always made the titular princess a weak damsel in distress despite the game being named after her. She is the stereotypical weak female from the history of fiction that needs a brave male to save her. Then NBA2K is nothing but masculine (some feminine) men bouncing a ball. Many have pointed out several games with female characters and you are not or have not played any of them. What are you complaining about again?
lol
zelda is far from the worst offender....been a fan since ocarina of time though... had the gold joint
and i can't like playing simulated basketball because i'm actually a big basketball fan? why? there is no wnba offerings until now if you want to count nba live lol ....what about nba 2k actually perpetuates negative stereotypes ?
how do you know i hasn't played metroid prime or resident evil or that i don't own zero dawn
never said didn't
i said women and poc as protagonist are underrepresented...
un·der·rep·re·sent
ˌəndə(r)ˌreprəˈzent/Submit
verb
past tense: underrepresented; past participle: underrepresented
provide with insufficient or inadequate representation.
"women are underrepresented at high levels"
there are actually studies that support my claims... here is just one of many
A RECENT REPORT released by the USC Annenberg School for Communication says that videogames don't represent American society any better than television does.
It also pointed out that though 10 percent of the playable characters found were female, women make up 40 percent of the gaming population
https://www.wired.com/2009/07/minorities-in-videogames/
throwing out names like lara croft proves nothing.... though i was a tomb rider fan growing up... spent a lot of time running around her mansion with the butler
Your whole argument was that there are no games catering to females and it has been destroyed repeatedly in this thread with facts. Plenty of females plat GTA as stated so once again you are wrong. Then you keep posted biased articles when I am actually connected to the gaming community. Some the biggest streamers are women. There are more males gamers than female gamers so by the demographics they are not under represented. You don't seem to understand how demographics work. Most females play games with male protagonists just like you are doing with Zelda.
never said there are no games catering to females ...at least be honest bruh or read
i said video games RARELY cater to girls and women
my argument being that video games are often mypotic, sexist ....and that poc and women have been underrepresented
underrepresented meaning the percentage of gamers who identify as a poc and or a woman is far greater than the percentage of poc and female protagonist, playable characters in video games
this has been a consistent issue nice the start...but things are getting better
how is the article biased?????
could the reason most women gamers play games with male protagonist because there isn't a great variety of games with female protagonist that they find enjoyable? lol
that said, whether or not women play gta or zelda is irrelevant to my point....doesn't make me wrong....you don't think these women wouldn't play gta is the protagonist were all female or and poc????
and "by destroy" if you mean yall have mischaracterized my argument and deflected ....sure I can agree with that
funny that this isn't even a controversial opinion in most circles
most importantly at least the babies know what's up...small sample but its a good sign for the future
A recent exploratory study conducted by Time has found that 47 percent of middle-school and 61 percent of high-school-aged boys believe that female characters in video games are too often treated as sex objects. The survey was conducted to examine issues of sexism in video games and asked over 1,400 students about their feelings surrounding how women are depicted in the medium. What's more, 70 percent of girls surveyed said that the gender of a protagonist doesn't factor into them playing a game while a surprising 78 percent of boys said the same. And 58 percent of boys who identified as gamers think there should be more female heroes in games.
http://time.com/3948744/video-games-kate-upton-game-of-war-comic-con/
but hey maybe they've been brainwashed -
LEMZIMUS_RAMSEY wrote: »Madame_CJSkywalker wrote: »LEMZIMUS_RAMSEY wrote: »Madame_CJSkywalker wrote: »@Madame_CJSkywalker.
I peeped her move man.
She literally googles talking points. She's never mentioned any of this stuff nor posted in a video game thread or comic book thread or in lca.
she was coming off like an ass talking about video games and Comics from this outsider perspective. Her posts didn't come off experiential at all. Vague ambiguous just standard talking points. She didn't name one game or comic book character until gta v.
Realizing she was sounding like a lame she went and researched.
Who's your team on 2k?
What player you think overrated?
What's your gamertag?
Why you so fake. It's ok to be wrong.
She literally googled "popular dbz saga"
Who was the ? ? in that saga? And why?
my team on 2k? rockets, blazers
overrated? steph
not telling you my gamer tag lol
i was shipping vegta and bulma in elementary ?
and i more so lurk in the other subforums ...
you can believe me or not....it's cool
having a difference of opinion doesn't make me fake or necessarily wrong. i'm not the only person to have these complaints, make these observations
and a dozen or so female protagonist doesn't mean ? when out of the hundreds of games, comics released over the years have male protagonists and/or perpetuate sexist stereotypes and the such
Dozens of female characters.
Try hundreds.
Your opinions are stupid. They are literally the most uninformed drivel. You're an ideologue. Your agenda is to see sexism no matter what and if you can't find it you'll create it.
This is the hallmark of a fake fan
The only opinions you have are popular opinions. You don't possess one controversial opinion about anything.
But you claim to be a gamer. You probably play candy crush. I know female gamers, comic fans, and anime heads.
Saying steph is overrated is a popular opinion. Anyone can google that.
Saying you ship vegeta and bulma? Popular opinion.
You parrot other people's thoughts on issues. You don't have an opinion because that requires some level of relationship with the source material. You don't have it.
You're fake. That's a fact not an opinion.
You are what this whole thread is about a nagging ? . Your version of fun is ruining man fun. Women don't go and create their own version of fun.
First they call men fun stupid.
Then when they see that it's dope they whine and ? for men to let them in.
Men don't wanna let you in because one of the major reasons for developing fun is to get away from women.
Then when men let Women in they want to change ? to suit them, make them comfortable.
"I don't like all this ? and ass around here, it makes me uncomfortable as a woman"
"Why aren't there more female characters, as a woman i want to be represented"
"Why is this game so violent, as a woman i feel uncomfortable with it being so accessible to children"
As a woman, as female members of human race, you all are insufferable, entitled, irritating, harpies.
If men aren't trying to use you like a ? puppet, we're actively trying to get away from you. You all are not pleasant to be around. As much trash as you talk about men, females always follow men around to the fun ? .
Ruining it.
Stop bringing race into it. Asian, black, and Hispanic men don't need your voice.
Give one example of man fun that women have not tried to ruin?
@Madame_CJSkywalker
Merci monsieur. Well said. The recents amount of FEMINAZISM related thread just shows that we are sick and tired of this ? .
And guess what MORE WOMEN are getting fed up too. They see the current 28 - 44 yo generation of female SAD TIRED AND LONELY.
Yesterday i was laughing at a woman who was asking a 24 yo man to marry her. The Disney, Sex and the City and YOU GO GIRL era is craching hard. These women got out of the house to march for less ? and more ? in comic books. They got out the house to get more free meals and drinks. They got out the house not to go to the gym but instead to get fat like never before, hit the wall earlier than before.
They want to be men, not evolve as women. But biology and age will put them in there places. SEXANDROIDS is already making them sweating. And its just the begining.
The only culture these feminazy have created is the one of ?
Male gaze
Comic books gender equality
Video games gender equality
? walk
Tinderella
Govenment hookering aka making babies and riding on the section 8.
what? lol...this is sad
SEXANDROIDS is making who sweat exactly?
and you seem to be arguing disney and shows like sex in the city have influenced women for the worst, but when i make the case video games and comics don't do a good job of portraying poc and women it is "who cares" "that's ridiculous" "it's just entertainment"
smh
ok...lem
Sadness is an emotion. Im speaking facts.
Comics and video games are the last sectors social justice warriors need to bother and try to influence.
Get out of feminazism.
smh
ok...lem -
Today's fuckery. Some flaccid dude decided to make a big deal about this:
https://www.bleedingcool.com/2017/10/18/fanboy-rampage-jon-malin-responds-criticism-blinks-costume-cable-153-cover/
White knights get mad
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Madame_CJSkywalker wrote: »Madame_CJSkywalker wrote: »@Madame_CJSkywalker.
I peeped her move man.
She literally googles talking points. She's never mentioned any of this stuff nor posted in a video game thread or comic book thread or in lca.
she was coming off like an ass talking about video games and Comics from this outsider perspective. Her posts didn't come off experiential at all. Vague ambiguous just standard talking points. She didn't name one game or comic book character until gta v.
Realizing she was sounding like a lame she went and researched.
Who's your team on 2k?
What player you think overrated?
What's your gamertag?
Why you so fake. It's ok to be wrong.
She literally googled "popular dbz saga"
Who was the ? ? in that saga? And why?
my team on 2k? rockets, blazers
overrated? steph
not telling you my gamer tag lol
i was shipping vegta and bulma in elementary ?
and i more so lurk in the other subforums ...
you can believe me or not....it's cool
having a difference of opinion doesn't make me fake or necessarily wrong. i'm not the only person to have these complaints, make these observations
and a dozen or so female protagonist doesn't mean ? when out of the hundreds of games, comics released over the years have male protagonists and/or perpetuate sexist stereotypes and the such
Dozens of female characters.
Try hundreds.
Your opinions are stupid. They are literally the most uninformed drivel. You're an ideologue. Your agenda is to see sexism no matter what and if you can't find it you'll create it.
This is the hallmark of a fake fan
The only opinions you have are popular opinions. You don't possess one controversial opinion about anything.
But you claim to be a gamer. You probably play candy crush. I know female gamers, comic fans, and anime heads.
Saying steph is overrated is a popular opinion. Anyone can google that.
Saying you ship vegeta and bulma? Popular opinion.
You parrot other people's thoughts on issues. You don't have an opinion because that requires some level of relationship with the source material. You don't have it.
You're fake. That's a fact not an opinion.
You are what this whole thread is about a nagging ? . Your version of fun is ruining man fun. Women don't go and create their own version of fun.
First they call men fun stupid.
Then when they see that it's dope they whine and ? for men to let them in.
Men don't wanna let you in because one of the major reasons for developing fun is to get away from women.
Then when men let Women in they want to change ? to suit them, make them comfortable.
"I don't like all this ? and ass around here, it makes me uncomfortable as a woman"
"Why aren't there more female characters, as a woman i want to be represented"
"Why is this game so violent, as a woman i feel uncomfortable with it being so accessible to children"
As a woman, as female members of human race, you all are insufferable, entitled, irritating, harpies.
If men aren't trying to use you like a ? puppet, we're actively trying to get away from you. You all are not pleasant to be around. As much trash as you talk about men, females always follow men around to the fun ? .
Ruining it.
Stop bringing race into it. Asian, black, and Hispanic men don't need your voice.
Give one example of man fun that women have not tried to ruin?
@Madame_CJSkywalker
lol @exposing me
I means the dozen or so female protagonist mentioned in this thread
Do you know what underrepresented means? Ur a smart dude so stop being disingenuous
And saying a two time mvp and two time champion is overrated is a popular opinion now?
smh...i would never be able to satisfy you
and for my opinion to be so stupid you've spent a great amount of keystrokes trying to deflect and discredit me...
has work has slowed down? what is it that you do with ur time?
and wtf is man fun????
You know you got somebody on the ropes when they start bringing up irrelevant ? like time spent posting. That's ad hominem. We grown ups here.
This is where your argument dead ends. You use terms like underrepresented, equity, etc etc. Those are terms that apply to government and government.
Comic books, video games, movies, television are all one thing, art. A creator is bound by no obligation to represent any potential audience. A creator's only responsibility is to represent the image in their mind.
Creators, artists, developers do not have to create a world that is representative of anything including the demographic of this world.
You, as a potential customer decides, votes with your dollar whether or not the artist's work is what you're messing with. You can give your opinion and critique but you have no right to tell a creator what their work should represent. If you feel like there needs to be a creation that represents something in particular then you either make it yourself or you pay someone with talent to do it.
To give these pseudo mandates that art needs to represent any particular group sets an awful precedent. It's a slippery slope towards fascism which left wing/liberals are prone to do.
As a creator of comics and other literature i would be incensed if some ? told me that i have to put x amount of people in my work because x amount of people buy it. ? all the way off. The audacity. I create stories with majority black people and other ethnic groups. I'll be damned if someone tells me i need to make or include these people. So that means on principle i must defend a white boy creating art about majority or even all white people and his interpretation of with any group.
The "fight" to mandate equity and representation in art is a causal cycloid, a vicious cycle where some group can use the legitimate complaint they aren't represented in such and such work. It'll be ? women and poc, next week it's fat girls, asexuals, and biracial Chinese midgets. You can cut the equity pie into countless pieces until it essentially dissolves into individuality or a horrible story built on contrived identity politics. -
Madame_CJSkywalker wrote: »VulcanRaven wrote: »Madame_CJSkywalker wrote: »VulcanRaven wrote: »Madame_CJSkywalker wrote: »
right now i'm playing breath of the wild and nba 2k alil
dope how nba live now has wnba teams
but yea the issue is there aren't a great variety of games with female protagonist...things are changing though
lol @ narcissistic ? ....
like others i just want video games, comic industry to not perpetuate negative, sexist stereotypes
and realize women and poc like the ? too...we want to see more of ourselves in a variety of different capacities ....and not just characters that are villains or comic relief or tokens or sexual objects
as a customer of these products think we all have a bit of a right to make request or voice our complaints ...same as ppl can argue the new iron man being a blk girl is a stupid idea
but sure i would think i was being petty or it was just me "nagging" if i was a straight man too
*shrugs*
The bold is hypocritical don't you think? Zelda has always made the titular princess a weak damsel in distress despite the game being named after her. She is the stereotypical weak female from the history of fiction that needs a brave male to save her. Then NBA2K is nothing but masculine (some feminine) men bouncing a ball. Many have pointed out several games with female characters and you are not or have not played any of them. What are you complaining about again?
lol
zelda is far from the worst offender....been a fan since ocarina of time though... had the gold joint
and i can't like playing simulated basketball because i'm actually a big basketball fan? why? there is no wnba offerings until now if you want to count nba live lol ....what about nba 2k actually perpetuates negative stereotypes ?
how do you know i hasn't played metroid prime or resident evil or that i don't own zero dawn
never said didn't
i said women and poc as protagonist are underrepresented...
un·der·rep·re·sent
ˌəndə(r)ˌreprəˈzent/Submit
verb
past tense: underrepresented; past participle: underrepresented
provide with insufficient or inadequate representation.
"women are underrepresented at high levels"
there are actually studies that support my claims... here is just one of many
A RECENT REPORT released by the USC Annenberg School for Communication says that videogames don't represent American society any better than television does.
It also pointed out that though 10 percent of the playable characters found were female, women make up 40 percent of the gaming population
https://www.wired.com/2009/07/minorities-in-videogames/
throwing out names like lara croft proves nothing.... though i was a tomb rider fan growing up... spent a lot of time running around her mansion with the butler
Your whole argument was that there are no games catering to females and it has been destroyed repeatedly in this thread with facts. Plenty of females plat GTA as stated so once again you are wrong. Then you keep posted biased articles when I am actually connected to the gaming community. Some the biggest streamers are women. There are more males gamers than female gamers so by the demographics they are not under represented. You don't seem to understand how demographics work. Most females play games with male protagonists just like you are doing with Zelda.
never said there are no games catering to females ...at least be honest bruh or read
i said video games RARELY cater to girls and women
my argument being that video games are often mypotic, sexist ....and that poc and women have been underrepresented
underrepresented meaning the percentage of gamers who identify as a poc and or a woman is far greater than the percentage of poc and female protagonist, playable characters in video games
this has been a consistent issue nice the start...but things are getting better
how is the article biased?????
could the reason most women gamers play games with male protagonist because there isn't a great variety of games with female protagonist that they find enjoyable? lol
that said, whether or not women play gta or zelda is irrelevant to my point....doesn't make me wrong....you don't think these women wouldn't play gta is the protagonist were all female or and poc????
and "by destroy" if you mean yall have mischaracterized my argument and deflected ....sure I can agree with that
funny that this isn't even a controversial opinion in most circles
most importantly at least the babies know what's up...small sample but its a good sign for the future
A recent exploratory study conducted by Time has found that 47 percent of middle-school and 61 percent of high-school-aged boys believe that female characters in video games are too often treated as sex objects. The survey was conducted to examine issues of sexism in video games and asked over 1,400 students about their feelings surrounding how women are depicted in the medium. What's more, 70 percent of girls surveyed said that the gender of a protagonist doesn't factor into them playing a game while a surprising 78 percent of boys said the same. And 58 percent of boys who identified as gamers think there should be more female heroes in games.
http://time.com/3948744/video-games-kate-upton-game-of-war-comic-con/
but hey maybe they've been brainwashed
What does poc mean? You keep posting it. I am not up on feminist terms lol. I already proved you wrong. The fact is there are plenty of games with female characters and have been for years. Everything else you said with your woman hating theories are not founded within reality. That is a fact. You are trying turn gaming into some misogynistic industry when that is not the case. It is obviously a male dominated industry duh, but not many women pursue careers in the industry and most gamers are males so of course it will cater to males. Your whole argument is flawed period. That's another fact. As I said you are playing Zelda instead of one of the great games with a female character. Stop being hypocrite. Metroid is not a very high selling franchise and it is considered one of the greatest games of all time. Guess who plays it, men. Why are more women not playing Metroid compared to how many play Zelda? Whether females find the games enjoying or not, the games are there. Adding a female to GTA won't make it enjoyable as stated. Yet GTA has a ton of female fans, so once again what point are you making? -
I always think it's funny that people complain about the women in comics and video games being scantily clad as if you can't go outside on any given day and see women walking around scantily clad. Outside of professional/office type environments, tell me an arena where women frequent where there aren't chicks walking around with ? hanging out. It's not like men make them dress like that. A lot of women actually like wearing revealing ? . So that's ok, but if a dude creates a fictional character that does the same, it's a sin? Craziness.
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Rest In Peace to the goat Patrice O'Neal.. -
Madame_CJSkywalker wrote: »Madame_CJSkywalker wrote: »@Madame_CJSkywalker.
I peeped her move man.
She literally googles talking points. She's never mentioned any of this stuff nor posted in a video game thread or comic book thread or in lca.
she was coming off like an ass talking about video games and Comics from this outsider perspective. Her posts didn't come off experiential at all. Vague ambiguous just standard talking points. She didn't name one game or comic book character until gta v.
Realizing she was sounding like a lame she went and researched.
Who's your team on 2k?
What player you think overrated?
What's your gamertag?
Why you so fake. It's ok to be wrong.
She literally googled "popular dbz saga"
Who was the ? ? in that saga? And why?
my team on 2k? rockets, blazers
overrated? steph
not telling you my gamer tag lol
i was shipping vegta and bulma in elementary ?
and i more so lurk in the other subforums ...
you can believe me or not....it's cool
having a difference of opinion doesn't make me fake or necessarily wrong. i'm not the only person to have these complaints, make these observations
and a dozen or so female protagonist doesn't mean ? when out of the hundreds of games, comics released over the years have male protagonists and/or perpetuate sexist stereotypes and the such
Dozens of female characters.
Try hundreds.
Your opinions are stupid. They are literally the most uninformed drivel. You're an ideologue. Your agenda is to see sexism no matter what and if you can't find it you'll create it.
This is the hallmark of a fake fan
The only opinions you have are popular opinions. You don't possess one controversial opinion about anything.
But you claim to be a gamer. You probably play candy crush. I know female gamers, comic fans, and anime heads.
Saying steph is overrated is a popular opinion. Anyone can google that.
Saying you ship vegeta and bulma? Popular opinion.
You parrot other people's thoughts on issues. You don't have an opinion because that requires some level of relationship with the source material. You don't have it.
You're fake. That's a fact not an opinion.
You are what this whole thread is about a nagging ? . Your version of fun is ruining man fun. Women don't go and create their own version of fun.
First they call men fun stupid.
Then when they see that it's dope they whine and ? for men to let them in.
Men don't wanna let you in because one of the major reasons for developing fun is to get away from women.
Then when men let Women in they want to change ? to suit them, make them comfortable.
"I don't like all this ? and ass around here, it makes me uncomfortable as a woman"
"Why aren't there more female characters, as a woman i want to be represented"
"Why is this game so violent, as a woman i feel uncomfortable with it being so accessible to children"
As a woman, as female members of human race, you all are insufferable, entitled, irritating, harpies.
If men aren't trying to use you like a ? puppet, we're actively trying to get away from you. You all are not pleasant to be around. As much trash as you talk about men, females always follow men around to the fun ? .
Ruining it.
Stop bringing race into it. Asian, black, and Hispanic men don't need your voice.
Give one example of man fun that women have not tried to ruin?
@Madame_CJSkywalker
lol @exposing me
I means the dozen or so female protagonist mentioned in this thread
Do you know what underrepresented means? Ur a smart dude so stop being disingenuous
And saying a two time mvp and two time champion is overrated is a popular opinion now?
smh...i would never be able to satisfy you
and for my opinion to be so stupid you've spent a great amount of keystrokes trying to deflect and discredit me...
has work has slowed down? what is it that you do with ur time?
and wtf is man fun????
You know you got somebody on the ropes when they start bringing up irrelevant ? like time spent posting. That's ad hominem. We grown ups here.
This is where your argument dead ends. You use terms like underrepresented, equity, etc etc. Those are terms that apply to government and government.
Comic books, video games, movies, television are all one thing, art. A creator is bound by no obligation to represent any potential audience. A creator's only responsibility is to represent the image in their mind.
Creators, artists, developers do not have to create a world that is representative of anything including the demographic of this world.
You, as a potential customer decides, votes with your dollar whether or not the artist's work is what you're messing with. You can give your opinion and critique but you have no right to tell a creator what their work should represent. If you feel like there needs to be a creation that represents something in particular then you either make it yourself or you pay someone with talent to do it.
To give these pseudo mandates that art needs to represent any particular group sets an awful precedent. It's a slippery slope towards fascism which left wing/liberals are prone to do.
As a creator of comics and other literature i would be incensed if some ? told me that i have to put x amount of people in my work because x amount of people buy it. ? all the way off. The audacity. I create stories with majority black people and other ethnic groups. I'll be damned if someone tells me i need to make or include these people. So that means on principle i must defend a white boy creating art about majority or even all white people and his interpretation of with any group.
The "fight" to mandate equity and representation in art is a causal cycloid, a vicious cycle where some group can use the legitimate complaint they aren't represented in such and such work. It'll be ? women and poc, next week it's fat girls, asexuals, and biracial Chinese midgets. You can cut the equity pie into countless pieces until it essentially dissolves into individuality or a horrible story built on contrived identity politics.
Effort, creativity have no place into feminazism. They are not marching for equity in the construction field. They are not maching for equity in the battlefield. They are not marching for equity in PT tests. They dont go to the gym.they are not marching for equal share of costs in the social field (restaurant, movies,Christmas, vacation, dating).
They still want men to wine and dine them. They still wnat you to build the houses and roads. They still want you to draw and imagine stories. All they have to do is taking your final work, analysing it, and if it fits they emotional state, their physique and agenda, then its ok. Have yall seen the FAT ACCEPTANCE movement. They have colonized the modeling realm. They , like nazies and racists, deny science : you can be super fat and be healthy and real men should love that.
They want men back at the plantation. Happy wife, happy life.
Japanese men have left the game. All around the western civilization RED PILL MEN AND WOMEN are living the plantation of modern slavery. Because what is latent behind all this ? is SLAVERY. Fat, ladycats and hurted bunch of women are trying to shape the world from their point of view. -
You know you got somebody on the ropes when they start bringing up irrelevant ? like time spent posting. That's ad hominem. We grown ups here.
This is where your argument dead ends. You use terms like underrepresented, equity, etc etc. Those are terms that apply to government and government.
Comic books, video games, movies, television are all one thing, art. A creator is bound by no obligation to represent any potential audience. A creator's only responsibility is to represent the image in their mind.
Creators, artists, developers do not have to create a world that is representative of anything including the demographic of this world.
You, as a potential customer decides, votes with your dollar whether or not the artist's work is what you're messing with. You can give your opinion and critique but you have no right to tell a creator what their work should represent. If you feel like there needs to be a creation that represents something in particular then you either make it yourself or you pay someone with talent to do it.
To give these pseudo mandates that art needs to represent any particular group sets an awful precedent. It's a slippery slope towards fascism which left wing/liberals are prone to do.
As a creator of comics and other literature i would be incensed if some ? told me that i have to put x amount of people in my work because x amount of people buy it. ? all the way off. The audacity. I create stories with majority black people and other ethnic groups. I'll be damned if someone tells me i need to make or include these people. So that means on principle i must defend a white boy creating art about majority or even all white people and his interpretation of with any group.
The "fight" to mandate equity and representation in art is a causal cycloid, a vicious cycle where some group can use the legitimate complaint they aren't represented in such and such work. It'll be ? women and poc, next week it's fat girls, asexuals, and biracial Chinese midgets. You can cut the equity pie into countless pieces until it essentially dissolves into individuality or a horrible story built on contrived identity politics.
lol @ ad hominem
you keep repeating my argument is stupid so naturally the question then becomes why spend some much time arguing with a person who you feel is so beneath you and just regurgitating talking points they googled
and its so rich the person who is quick to resort to name calling and cheap character attacks telling anyone to grow up...but i digress...
free speech is vital ...artist can do what they like
but considering we all have to co-exist with each other on this earth some of us feel artist, like everyone else, shouldn't be shielded from criticism. and should be held accountable for the part they play in perpetuating and encouraging anti-social behavior like racism and sexism. or if they have a history of purposely excluding large swaths of ppl from their work
and we as consumers, men and women, have the responsibility for demanding fair representation and more games that portray strong and nuanced female and poc characters
also the majority of comic book artists, game developers working in the industry and in major studios are straight white men and grew up as big fans of comics and video games ...you think that is a coincidence??? lol
i'd argue all the evidence suggest no. and as i've been arguing by promoting diversity it will help attract more poc and women to the fold and get them interested in technology, graphic design at an early age
things that will close the wage gap...and video games have been shown to greatly improve one's cognitive skills
that said, there is a difference between you and a white man creating a fictional new york city, for ex, where ppl of different races and or gender are absent or lacking. the writing of and promoting to prominence productions dominated by “white” characters is about power and influence. expanding these ” roles" to all is about redressing this
that said, this idea this is just not about anyone trying to ruin ur fun is ridiculous and a over simplification of what i or liked minded individuals have argued -
The Lonious Monk wrote: »I always think it's funny that people complain about the women in comics and video games being scantily clad as if you can't go outside on any given day and see women walking around scantily clad. Outside of professional/office type environments, tell me an arena where women frequent where there aren't chicks walking around with ? hanging out. It's not like men make them dress like that. A lot of women actually like wearing revealing ? . So that's ok, but if a dude creates a fictional character that does the same, it's a sin? Craziness.
so the overwhelming majority of women out in public outside of a professional setting you see are either dressed in barely there mini skirts; skin tight spandex from head to toe and stilettos; or barely there tops to show off their DD breast, because according to video games and comics we all have DD breast???? lol
the issue is the lack of balance....the lack of nuance -
Madame_CJSkywalker wrote: »You know you got somebody on the ropes when they start bringing up irrelevant ? like time spent posting. That's ad hominem. We grown ups here.
This is where your argument dead ends. You use terms like underrepresented, equity, etc etc. Those are terms that apply to government and government.
Comic books, video games, movies, television are all one thing, art. A creator is bound by no obligation to represent any potential audience. A creator's only responsibility is to represent the image in their mind.
Creators, artists, developers do not have to create a world that is representative of anything including the demographic of this world.
You, as a potential customer decides, votes with your dollar whether or not the artist's work is what you're messing with. You can give your opinion and critique but you have no right to tell a creator what their work should represent. If you feel like there needs to be a creation that represents something in particular then you either make it yourself or you pay someone with talent to do it.
To give these pseudo mandates that art needs to represent any particular group sets an awful precedent. It's a slippery slope towards fascism which left wing/liberals are prone to do.
As a creator of comics and other literature i would be incensed if some ? told me that i have to put x amount of people in my work because x amount of people buy it. ? all the way off. The audacity. I create stories with majority black people and other ethnic groups. I'll be damned if someone tells me i need to make or include these people. So that means on principle i must defend a white boy creating art about majority or even all white people and his interpretation of with any group.
The "fight" to mandate equity and representation in art is a causal cycloid, a vicious cycle where some group can use the legitimate complaint they aren't represented in such and such work. It'll be ? women and poc, next week it's fat girls, asexuals, and biracial Chinese midgets. You can cut the equity pie into countless pieces until it essentially dissolves into individuality or a horrible story built on contrived identity politics.
lol @ ad hominem
you keep repeating my argument is stupid so naturally the question then becomes why spend some much time arguing with a person who you feel is so beneath you and just regurgitating talking points they googled
and its so rich the person who is quick to resort to name calling and cheap character attacks telling anyone to grow up...but i digress...
free speech is vital ...artist can do what they like
but considering we all have to co-exist with each other on this earth some of us feel artist, like everyone else, shouldn't be shielded from criticism. and should be held accountable for the part they play in perpetuating and encouraging anti-social behavior like racism and sexism. or if they have a history of purposely excluding large swaths of ppl from their work
and we as consumers, men and women, have the responsibility for demanding fair representation and more games that portray strong and nuanced female and poc characters
also the majority of comic book artists, game developers working in the industry and in major studios are straight white men and grew up as big fans of comics and video games ...you think that is a coincidence??? lol
i'd argue all the evidence suggest no. and as i've been arguing by promoting diversity it will help attract more poc and women to the fold and get them interested in technology, graphic design at an early age
things that will close the wage gap...and video games have been shown to greatly improve one's cognitive skills
that said, there is a difference between you and a white man creating a fictional new york city, for ex, where ppl of different races and or gender are absent or lacking. the writing of and promoting to prominence productions dominated by “white” characters is about power and influence. expanding these ” roles" to all is about redressing this
that said, this idea this is just not about anyone trying to ruin ur fun is ridiculous and a over simplification of what i or liked minded individuals have argued
You hide your blatant fascist attempts behind this pursuit of altruism. You're an ideologue whose ideas must be challenged.
Consumers can Give their opinion and vote with their dollars. They don't have any right to demand anything from a creator because a creator is not an elected or duly appointed official. Representation is a mandate of a republic not a privately owned company or an artist.
So what if the majority of comic book and video game creators are white Men. That's not a crime. Now if you say that x company is this demographic because they've denied the hiring of x and x demographic that's different. But you can't say that because both marvel and dc, the big two, have employed women, Latinos, and blacks at every level.
You're trying to establish this equality of outcome without even knowing if their is a failure in equality of opportunity. You haven't even established that any demographic is denied an opportunity to become an artist, game dev, graphic designer, etc, etc. You haven't even determined that.
There's nothing stopping anyone from playing video games.
Your arguments are weak. On their face it's nothing but fascist rhetoric disguised as liberal altruism, diversity, multiculturalism, what about the kids? Non existent wage gap.
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