JAY-Z: “At this very moment America is way more sexist than they are racist."…

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  • soul rattler
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    You a ol "You should help me but I don't have to help you" ass ?
  • CapitalB
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    i always find it crazy that culturally.. African Americans are the only ones i know of that treat their women as equals.. i dont believe in this by the way..

    but they even teach MALES AND FEMALES growin up to FIND UR EQUAL..sexism wasnt a problem WITHIN the black community..

    ? aint under attack like black men.. black people..
    in other races maybe Jay statements hold true.. but he know he’s full of ? ..

    but eh.. we talkin about a ? who can sell water to a whale.. now they got him sellin this ? .
  • LPast
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    CapitalB wrote: »
    You a ol "You should help me but I don't have to help you" ass ?

    ? helpin me is helpin us!

    when they wanted to destroy the black family they aint target black ? .. they targeted black men...

    they did that for a reason..
    i love to use the chess reference.. a black Queen is the most powerful piece... but the black King is the most important piece.. if u dont get that point aint no need in hs talkin any further..

    everyone has a role to play a position to fill..

    but nah.. they have systematically wit the war on drugs and welfare taken black men out of the equation and the black family has suffered because of it..

    irrefutable..

    False, they targeted both, from the very beginning.

    And you have to start at the beginning.

    I'm not saying that Jay is 100% right, but it's a discussion. Why didn't white women have the right to vote before black men?

    Why is it that black women have it harder than everyone? (Don't try to against that either)
  • playmaker88
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  • CapitalB
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    LPast wrote: »
    CapitalB wrote: »
    You a ol "You should help me but I don't have to help you" ass ?

    ? helpin me is helpin us!

    when they wanted to destroy the black family they aint target black ? .. they targeted black men...

    they did that for a reason..
    i love to use the chess reference.. a black Queen is the most powerful piece... but the black King is the most important piece.. if u dont get that point aint no need in hs talkin any further..

    everyone has a role to play a position to fill..

    but nah.. they have systematically wit the war on drugs and welfare taken black men out of the equation and the black family has suffered because of it..

    irrefutable..

    False, they targeted both, from the very beginning.

    And you have to start at the beginning.

    I'm not saying that Jay is 100% right, but it's a discussion. Why didn't white women have the right to vote before black men?

    Why is it that black women have it harder than everyone? (Don't try to against that either)

    okay u ? lesbian..
    how was BOTH targeted in the beginning?! and how do black women have it harder?!

    whats harder than bein dead or in prison..

    cause last i checked black ? out here gettin free government aid at the cost of black men (welfare) arent they the most educated demographic or some ? .. they aint sittin on the unemployed line.. i mean they may be gettin paid less than their white male coworker but least they have a job.. they aint missin work.. they aint gettin pulled over and they aint goin to jail at the rate these black men are..

    please tell me how black women have it harder than black men..

    i aint talkin about other races cause them ? aint my problem..
  • soul rattler
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    CapitalB wrote: »
    You a ol "You should help me but I don't have to help you" ass ?

    ? helpin me is helpin us!

    when they wanted to destroy the black family they aint target black ? .. they targeted black men...

    they did that for a reason..
    i love to use the chess reference.. a black Queen is the most powerful piece... but the black King is the most important piece.. if u dont get that point aint no need in hs talkin any further..

    everyone has a role to play a position to fill..

    but nah.. they have systematically wit the war on drugs and welfare taken black men out of the equation and the black family has suffered because of it..

    irrefutable..

    Except when it's not.

    When black men tell black women that issues that specifically affect black women aren't important or should be continuously put on the back burner, that's a slap in the face and blatant sexism.

    When a black woman says "black men needs to stop beating and ? us" and your response is "shut up ? and help me fight the white man", that's blatant sexism.
  • CapitalB
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    CapitalB wrote: »
    You a ol "You should help me but I don't have to help you" ass ?

    ? helpin me is helpin us!

    when they wanted to destroy the black family they aint target black ? .. they targeted black men...

    they did that for a reason..
    i love to use the chess reference.. a black Queen is the most powerful piece... but the black King is the most important piece.. if u dont get that point aint no need in hs talkin any further..

    everyone has a role to play a position to fill..

    but nah.. they have systematically wit the war on drugs and welfare taken black men out of the equation and the black family has suffered because of it..

    irrefutable..

    Except when it's not.

    When black men tell black women that issues that specifically affect black women aren't important or should be continuously put on the back burner, that's a slap in the face and blatant sexism.

    When a black woman says "black men needs to stop beating and ? us" and your response is "shut up ? and help me fight the white man", that's blatant sexism.

    so black men are out here beatin and rapin they women like its the thing to do?!

    i did not know that..

    ? let these ? tell it..
    they dont need a ? .. they not wit a ? so who’s bein ? and beat by a ? they dont have and need?!
  • caddo man
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    CapitalB wrote: »
    i always find it crazy that culturally.. African Americans are the only ones i know of that treat their women as equals.. i dont believe in this by the way..

    but they even teach MALES AND FEMALES growin up to FIND UR EQUAL..sexism wasnt a problem WITHIN the black community..

    ? aint under attack like black men.. black people..
    in other races maybe Jay statements hold true.. but he know he’s full of ? ..

    but eh.. we talkin about a ? who can sell water to a whale.. now they got him sellin this ? .

    If you are still debating after this statement you deserve the finger cramps, headache and high blood pressure that result from it.
  • CapitalB
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    someone pull up some stats..
    yall love that type ? .

    is donestic violence a big issue in black couples?! i honestly want to know..
    or is it what i expect.. a white and mexican thing??
  • LEMZIMUS_RAMSEY
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    UNNESSASSARY ? IMO.

    BOTH ARE BAD
    BOTH ARE DUMB
    BOTH ARE DESTRUCTIVE
    BOTH LEAD TO VIOLENCE AND DISRESPECT OF HUMAN BEINGS

    Trying to figure which of them should go first is imo ? : BOTH SHOULD FADE TO BLACK ASAP!
    WE DONT NEED NONE OF THEM

    BY THE WAY ITS SEXIST AND DUMBTO FEMINIZE SEXISM. WE WONT GO BACK TO THIS ARGUMENT AGAIN.

    ITS LIKE DEBATING ON GETTING RID OF HEROIN OR ECSTASY FIRST : BOTH DRUGGS ARE BAD AND DESTRUCTIVE.



  • LEMZIMUS_RAMSEY
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    Jay- z was simply brownnosing the feminists.
    He got hard times selling tickets and geting some coverage. Thank to his feminist stunt he is back in the talks : voilà! Touchè!
  • unspoken_respect
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    Reading that tweet and these comments.

    When did the racism take a back seat to any other ism in America? Such a white thing to say. This is just some spare of the moment ? trying to ride the wave. And people act like he said some profound ? . Watch, they will hit him with allegations next or slander him with his music. Lay low ? .

    If this ? is going to say something so simple and ignorant then he should elaborate. Sexism is wrong. Don't get it twisted. Comparing it to racism in America? Really? And y'all don't see the problem with it? Ok

    Right now sexism is Krispy Kreme and the Hot light is on.



  • LPast
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    CapitalB wrote: »
    LPast wrote: »
    CapitalB wrote: »
    You a ol "You should help me but I don't have to help you" ass ?

    ? helpin me is helpin us!

    when they wanted to destroy the black family they aint target black ? .. they targeted black men...

    they did that for a reason..
    i love to use the chess reference.. a black Queen is the most powerful piece... but the black King is the most important piece.. if u dont get that point aint no need in hs talkin any further..

    everyone has a role to play a position to fill..

    but nah.. they have systematically wit the war on drugs and welfare taken black men out of the equation and the black family has suffered because of it..

    irrefutable..

    False, they targeted both, from the very beginning.

    And you have to start at the beginning.

    I'm not saying that Jay is 100% right, but it's a discussion. Why didn't white women have the right to vote before black men?

    Why is it that black women have it harder than everyone? (Don't try to against that either)

    okay u ? lesbian..
    how was BOTH targeted in the beginning?! and how do black women have it harder?!

    whats harder than bein dead or in prison..

    cause last i checked black ? out here gettin free government aid at the cost of black men (welfare) arent they the most educated demographic or some ? .. they aint sittin on the unemployed line.. i mean they may be gettin paid less than their white male coworker but least they have a job.. they aint missin work.. they aint gettin pulled over and they aint goin to jail at the rate these black men are..

    please tell me how black women have it harder than black men..

    i aint talkin about other races cause them ? aint my problem..

    The beginning = black people in America... As in slavery...as in black women being ? etc... You want to argue that?

    Black women have it harder because women have had it harder.

    Please don't act like you don't understand the pecking order. White man > white woman > Dogs > other animals > black men > black women

    This MF said black women are more educated...as if that ? is something given to them. They are going to the same college black men may have CHOSEN to NOT go to.

    Generally speaking, if you have an education, you will have more opportunities. That isn't something out of black men's grasp...

    After you break down the racial walls, you still have the boys club.
  • 5th Letter
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    CapitalB wrote: »
    someone pull up some stats..
    yall love that type ? .

    is donestic violence a big issue in black couples?! i honestly want to know..
    or is it what i expect.. a white and mexican thing??

    Domestic violence is an issue with every race. The difference is that with every other negative thing they make black men the face of domestic violence. Remember the street harassment propaganda? Who did they make the face of that? Just like with black on black crime. You will get cases where a black man puts his hands on a black woman. But they make it seem like black men beat and ? black women at a higher rate than every other race of men combined. Pretty much parroting the talking points of the white supremacists about how "violent" black men are.
  • blackrain
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    CapitalB wrote: »
    i always find it crazy that culturally.. African Americans are the only ones i know of that treat their women as equals.. i dont believe in this by the way..

    but they even teach MALES AND FEMALES growin up to FIND UR EQUAL..sexism wasnt a problem WITHIN the black community..

    ? aint under attack like black men.. black people..
    in other races maybe Jay statements hold true.. but he know he’s full of ? ..

    but eh.. we talkin about a ? who can sell water to a whale.. now they got him sellin this ? .

    Sexism was a problem even within the civil rights movement. Go read the women who were part of the movement and see what they had to say about it. Or even within the Black Panthers. Go read about how the women involved with the Panthers truly felt about a man in Eldridge Cleaver who was convicted of ? and said in his own book that he ? black women because he knew nobody cared about them, being elevated so highly. Its alwats existed we just have the luxury as men of dismissing the ?
  • blackrain
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    CapitalB wrote: »
    someone pull up some stats..
    yall love that type ? .

    is donestic violence a big issue in black couples?! i honestly want to know..
    or is it what i expect.. a white and mexican thing??

    Being that this morning I just read a story about a man who got locked up for not only killing his wife but also her son for trying to protect her...yeah its an issue
  • CapitalB
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    LPast wrote: »
    CapitalB wrote: »
    LPast wrote: »
    CapitalB wrote: »
    You a ol "You should help me but I don't have to help you" ass ?

    ? helpin me is helpin us!

    when they wanted to destroy the black family they aint target black ? .. they targeted black men...

    they did that for a reason..
    i love to use the chess reference.. a black Queen is the most powerful piece... but the black King is the most important piece.. if u dont get that point aint no need in hs talkin any further..

    everyone has a role to play a position to fill..

    but nah.. they have systematically wit the war on drugs and welfare taken black men out of the equation and the black family has suffered because of it..

    irrefutable..

    False, they targeted both, from the very beginning.

    And you have to start at the beginning.

    I'm not saying that Jay is 100% right, but it's a discussion. Why didn't white women have the right to vote before black men?

    Why is it that black women have it harder than everyone? (Don't try to against that either)

    okay u ? lesbian..
    how was BOTH targeted in the beginning?! and how do black women have it harder?!

    whats harder than bein dead or in prison..

    cause last i checked black ? out here gettin free government aid at the cost of black men (welfare) arent they the most educated demographic or some ? .. they aint sittin on the unemployed line.. i mean they may be gettin paid less than their white male coworker but least they have a job.. they aint missin work.. they aint gettin pulled over and they aint goin to jail at the rate these black men are..

    please tell me how black women have it harder than black men..

    i aint talkin about other races cause them ? aint my problem..

    The beginning = black people in America... As in slavery...as in black women being ? etc... You want to argue that?

    Black women have it harder because women have had it harder.

    Please don't act like you don't understand the pecking order. White man > white woman > Dogs > other animals > black men > black women

    This MF said black women are more educated...as if that ? is something given to them. They are going to the same college black men may have CHOSEN to NOT go to.

    Generally speaking, if you have an education, you will have more opportunities. That isn't something out of black men's grasp...

    After you break down the racial walls, you still have the boys club.

    u cant talk slavery..
    but that even supports my argument that we have always been under the same oppressor.. and women’s fight was never wit ALL MEN but the white man cause we was in the struggle together..

    but even then black women were bein ? and black men were bein hung..

    and please dont tell me ur this ? dumb..
    there are studies out on the school to prison pipeline..
    how black kids PREDOMINANTLY boys are pretty much bein suspended and disciplined at higher rates than other kids.. they are takin black boys out the game early and givin black women free rides to college.. and if they aint ? givin them free food for them and they aint ? babies and sendin ? to jail for the money they dont got to feed this aint ? ? and they kids..

    my ? u still aint told me how black ? got ot worse out here than black ? outside of sayin “they jus do..” if thats ur argument ? forever ? the ? up..

  • soul rattler
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    CapitalB wrote: »
    CapitalB wrote: »
    You a ol "You should help me but I don't have to help you" ass ?

    ? helpin me is helpin us!

    when they wanted to destroy the black family they aint target black ? .. they targeted black men...

    they did that for a reason..
    i love to use the chess reference.. a black Queen is the most powerful piece... but the black King is the most important piece.. if u dont get that point aint no need in hs talkin any further..

    everyone has a role to play a position to fill..

    but nah.. they have systematically wit the war on drugs and welfare taken black men out of the equation and the black family has suffered because of it..

    irrefutable..

    Except when it's not.

    When black men tell black women that issues that specifically affect black women aren't important or should be continuously put on the back burner, that's a slap in the face and blatant sexism.

    When a black woman says "black men needs to stop beating and ? us" and your response is "shut up ? and help me fight the white man", that's blatant sexism.

    so black men are out here beatin and rapin they women like its the thing to do?!

    i did not know that..

    ? let these ? tell it..
    they dont need a ? .. they not wit a ? so who’s bein ? and beat by a ? they dont have and need?!

    Yes ? !

    You know that ? "what about black on black crime" narrative racists like to mention? It's because we are actually doing the ? the stats say. Black women are with black men more than anything else which means they're more likely to be beaten and ? by, who? Black men.

    The fact that you're acting oblivious to the plight of black women only furthers the point that sexism is at least as dangerous as racism, if not worse.
  • CapitalB
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    blackrain wrote: »
    CapitalB wrote: »
    someone pull up some stats..
    yall love that type ? .

    is donestic violence a big issue in black couples?! i honestly want to know..
    or is it what i expect.. a white and mexican thing??

    Being that this morning I just read a story about a man who got locked up for not only killing his wife but also her son for trying to protect her...yeah its an issue

    he’s in jail righ!? oh okay..

    how many black murders go unsolved?! unprosecuted??
    ill wait?!
  • CapitalB
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    blackrain wrote: »
    CapitalB wrote: »
    i always find it crazy that culturally.. African Americans are the only ones i know of that treat their women as equals.. i dont believe in this by the way..

    but they even teach MALES AND FEMALES growin up to FIND UR EQUAL..sexism wasnt a problem WITHIN the black community..

    ? aint under attack like black men.. black people..
    in other races maybe Jay statements hold true.. but he know he’s full of ? ..

    but eh.. we talkin about a ? who can sell water to a whale.. now they got him sellin this ? .

    Sexism was a problem even within the civil rights movement. Go read the women who were part of the movement and see what they had to say about it. Or even within the Black Panthers. Go read about how the women involved with the Panthers truly felt about a man in Eldridge Cleaver who was convicted of ? and said in his own book that he ? black women because he knew nobody cared about them, being elevated so highly. Its alwats existed we just have the luxury as men of dismissing the ?

    soone ? out here rapin ? now we have a ? issue within the black community??!

    got it!

    why is it only wit blacks one bad encompasses the whole?! that wasnt an individual incident?! cool!

















































































    ? lesbian.
  • blackrain
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    CapitalB wrote: »
    blackrain wrote: »
    CapitalB wrote: »
    someone pull up some stats..
    yall love that type ? .

    is donestic violence a big issue in black couples?! i honestly want to know..
    or is it what i expect.. a white and mexican thing??

    Being that this morning I just read a story about a man who got locked up for not only killing his wife but also her son for trying to protect her...yeah its an issue

    he’s in jail righ!? oh okay..

    how many black murders go unsolved?! unprosecuted??
    ill wait?!

    You didn't say what gets prosecuted...you said does it happen and the answer is yes.
  • CapitalB
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    CapitalB wrote: »
    CapitalB wrote: »
    You a ol "You should help me but I don't have to help you" ass ?

    ? helpin me is helpin us!

    when they wanted to destroy the black family they aint target black ? .. they targeted black men...

    they did that for a reason..
    i love to use the chess reference.. a black Queen is the most powerful piece... but the black King is the most important piece.. if u dont get that point aint no need in hs talkin any further..

    everyone has a role to play a position to fill..

    but nah.. they have systematically wit the war on drugs and welfare taken black men out of the equation and the black family has suffered because of it..

    irrefutable..

    Except when it's not.

    When black men tell black women that issues that specifically affect black women aren't important or should be continuously put on the back burner, that's a slap in the face and blatant sexism.

    When a black woman says "black men needs to stop beating and ? us" and your response is "shut up ? and help me fight the white man", that's blatant sexism.

    so black men are out here beatin and rapin they women like its the thing to do?!

    i did not know that..

    ? let these ? tell it..
    they dont need a ? .. they not wit a ? so who’s bein ? and beat by a ? they dont have and need?!

    Yes ? !

    You know that ? "what about black on black crime" narrative racists like to mention? It's because we are actually doing the ? the stats say. Black women are with black men more than anything else which means they're more likely to be beaten and ? by, who? Black men.

    The fact that you're acting oblivious to the plight of black women only furthers the point that sexism is at least as dangerous as racism, if not worse.

    im not oblivious to the plight of black women..
    im indifferent on domestic violence cause thats a relationship..

    that ? goes home to that every night when she could leave him and go to a ? that wont beat her.. she can help that..

    a ? cant help what the system does to him..
    he cant help that he’s bein targeted.. so excuse me for thinkin thats more of a problem than a ? gettin her ass beat by a ? she loves..

    we not gonna even get on donestic abuse in its entirety tho. cause u do know men are domestically abused as well.. verbal abuse is worse than physical abuse incase u aint know..

    and women are verbally abusive to their mate..
    i bet u know more verbally abusive women than u do physically abusive men..

    or am i wrong to assume??
  • CapitalB
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    blackrain wrote: »
    CapitalB wrote: »
    blackrain wrote: »
    CapitalB wrote: »
    someone pull up some stats..
    yall love that type ? .

    is donestic violence a big issue in black couples?! i honestly want to know..
    or is it what i expect.. a white and mexican thing??

    Being that this morning I just read a story about a man who got locked up for not only killing his wife but also her son for trying to protect her...yeah its an issue

    he’s in jail righ!? oh okay..

    how many black murders go unsolved?! unprosecuted??
    ill wait?!

    You didn't say what gets prosecuted...you said does it happen and the answer is yes.

    show me where i said it didnt happen or even asked if it happened..

    ill wait.
  • LPast
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    CapitalB wrote: »
    LPast wrote: »
    CapitalB wrote: »
    LPast wrote: »
    CapitalB wrote: »
    You a ol "You should help me but I don't have to help you" ass ?

    ? helpin me is helpin us!

    when they wanted to destroy the black family they aint target black ? .. they targeted black men...

    they did that for a reason..
    i love to use the chess reference.. a black Queen is the most powerful piece... but the black King is the most important piece.. if u dont get that point aint no need in hs talkin any further..

    everyone has a role to play a position to fill..

    but nah.. they have systematically wit the war on drugs and welfare taken black men out of the equation and the black family has suffered because of it..

    irrefutable..

    False, they targeted both, from the very beginning.

    And you have to start at the beginning.

    I'm not saying that Jay is 100% right, but it's a discussion. Why didn't white women have the right to vote before black men?

    Why is it that black women have it harder than everyone? (Don't try to against that either)

    okay u ? lesbian..
    how was BOTH targeted in the beginning?! and how do black women have it harder?!

    whats harder than bein dead or in prison..

    cause last i checked black ? out here gettin free government aid at the cost of black men (welfare) arent they the most educated demographic or some ? .. they aint sittin on the unemployed line.. i mean they may be gettin paid less than their white male coworker but least they have a job.. they aint missin work.. they aint gettin pulled over and they aint goin to jail at the rate these black men are..

    please tell me how black women have it harder than black men..

    i aint talkin about other races cause them ? aint my problem..

    The beginning = black people in America... As in slavery...as in black women being ? etc... You want to argue that?

    Black women have it harder because women have had it harder.

    Please don't act like you don't understand the pecking order. White man > white woman > Dogs > other animals > black men > black women

    This MF said black women are more educated...as if that ? is something given to them. They are going to the same college black men may have CHOSEN to NOT go to.

    Generally speaking, if you have an education, you will have more opportunities. That isn't something out of black men's grasp...

    After you break down the racial walls, you still have the boys club.

    u cant talk slavery..
    but that even supports my argument that we have always been under the same oppressor.. and women’s fight was never wit ALL MEN but the white man cause we was in the struggle together..

    but even then black women were bein ? and black men were bein hung..

    and please dont tell me ur this ? dumb..
    there are studies out on the school to prison pipeline..
    how black kids PREDOMINANTLY boys are pretty much bein suspended and disciplined at higher rates than other kids.. they are takin black boys out the game early and givin black women free rides to college.. and if they aint ? givin them free food for them and they aint ? babies and sendin ? to jail for the money they dont got to feed this aint ? ? and they kids..

    my ? u still aint told me how black ? got ot worse out here than black ? outside of sayin “they jus do..” if thats ur argument ? forever ? the ? up..

    So you admit that we share the same oppressor...1-1

    But if you know anything about most societies, don't women have to submit to men? Don't women have less power? Less power = more struggle. Simple as that.

    2-1 black women have it harder. They have to deal with racial AND gender discrimination. Black men only have to deal with the racial side.