Ma$e - The Oracle (Cam’ron Diss), Cam'ron responds with Dinner Time
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who remembers this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIYD3k-zGxA -
bow to royalty wrote: »bow to royalty wrote: »If y'all don't think these lines being exposed as lies, or just real weak after they're explained, weakens the track then I dunno what to tell you. It's either hating or Stanning. But ? ...to each his own
yall the same ? that say Ross won against 50 when all he told was lies in his diss songs. 50 told the truth. FOH. you want it one way. but its the other way. i get it. cam is likeable. hes funny. he took the L.
That beef was wack haha. 50 did that stupid Pinky-inspired character...I forget his name. And I can't even remember any of Ross ? . I did think that was the first beef 50 lost by 50 standards (he use to always refer to his success in rap vs his opponents and say he won. But at that time Ross was more successful) though. But you're not getting it...again. The biggest thing 50 said was Ross was a CO. and he showed a picture after. Because he knows a line being true makes a difference.
who do you think won 50 Ross?
I can't say who won but I know 50 lost 5mil
Because of that beef and that's a huge L
So it's safe to say 50 lost plus Ross career kind of took off the same time with the Big meech song while FIFs career went downhill
thats the ? im talking about lol. that court case ? happened this year or last. ? was saying 50 lost the battle way before then. was that in 2011 or 2012? 50 had the better diss songs and put hands on Ross's artist. south ? just like whos popular. just proves my point. and even now. Ross career is basically over.
i remember we had threads on here where people were asking. "whos career would u rather have? 50 or Ross"
now who stood the test of time.
but anyway. Mase won -
Mase ? was def'ly more etherous but...
...this isnt gonna affect cam at all.
Dont think anybody loses any sleep on this one.
If it turns into something long, drawn out maybe that will change.
It won't affect cam but cam had to leave his tour and everything he was doing to run to the breakfast club to do damage control
Dame dash had to do another damage control interview with his barber on behalf of camron
And you still think he's not affected? Once your consumers and customers start to look at you differently you will be affected.
That is why they are running to every mic they see to tell people MASE lied meanwhile cam has been A habitual liar
Lol u make it seem like he was jumpin thru hoops yea all he did was sit down n do an interview. Thats all it took was a response to the diss and an interview?
When he did the interview he was in a full week gap between shows so its not like he was scrambling to squeeze time to do it.
N however u look at it its still not gonna affect him.
If there are no more disses or responses from mase nothin changes at this point. Ppl will forget and the dipset reunion will eclipse mase.
And thats whether ppl know cam is a habitual liar or not -
who remembers thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIYD3k-zGxA
That dude sounds exactly like Cam -
bow to royalty wrote: »bow to royalty wrote: »If y'all don't think these lines being exposed as lies, or just real weak after they're explained, weakens the track then I dunno what to tell you. It's either hating or Stanning. But ? ...to each his own
yall the same ? that say Ross won against 50 when all he told was lies in his diss songs. 50 told the truth. FOH. you want it one way. but its the other way. i get it. cam is likeable. hes funny. he took the L.
That beef was wack haha. 50 did that stupid Pinky-inspired character...I forget his name. And I can't even remember any of Ross ? . I did think that was the first beef 50 lost by 50 standards (he use to always refer to his success in rap vs his opponents and say he won. But at that time Ross was more successful) though. But you're not getting it...again. The biggest thing 50 said was Ross was a CO. and he showed a picture after. Because he knows a line being true makes a difference.
who do you think won 50 Ross?
I can't say who won but I know 50 lost 5mil
Because of that beef and that's a huge L
So it's safe to say 50 lost plus Ross career kind of took off the same time with the Big meech song while FIFs career went downhill
thats the ? im talking about lol. that court case ? happened this year or last. ? was saying 50 lost the battle way before then. was that in 2011 or 2012? 50 had the better diss songs and put hands on Ross's artist. south ? just like whos popular. just proves my point. and even now. Ross career is basically over.
i remember we had threads on here where people were asking. "whos career would u rather have? 50 or Ross"
now who stood the test of time.
but anyway. Mase won
Ross is still a popular artist -
Trillaaaaaa wrote: »Every thread eventually turns into a Nas vs Jigga thread smh
Yall Nastafarians need to let it go...Hov won
History revisionist sighting -
freethewave wrote: »bow to royalty wrote: »bow to royalty wrote: »If y'all don't think these lines being exposed as lies, or just real weak after they're explained, weakens the track then I dunno what to tell you. It's either hating or Stanning. But ? ...to each his own
yall the same ? that say Ross won against 50 when all he told was lies in his diss songs. 50 told the truth. FOH. you want it one way. but its the other way. i get it. cam is likeable. hes funny. he took the L.
That beef was wack haha. 50 did that stupid Pinky-inspired character...I forget his name. And I can't even remember any of Ross ? . I did think that was the first beef 50 lost by 50 standards (he use to always refer to his success in rap vs his opponents and say he won. But at that time Ross was more successful) though. But you're not getting it...again. The biggest thing 50 said was Ross was a CO. and he showed a picture after. Because he knows a line being true makes a difference.
who do you think won 50 Ross?
I can't say who won but I know 50 lost 5mil
Because of that beef and that's a huge L
So it's safe to say 50 lost plus Ross career kind of took off the same time with the Big meech song while FIFs career went downhill
thats the ? im talking about lol. that court case ? happened this year or last. ? was saying 50 lost the battle way before then. was that in 2011 or 2012? 50 had the better diss songs and put hands on Ross's artist. south ? just like whos popular. just proves my point. and even now. Ross career is basically over.
i remember we had threads on here where people were asking. "whos career would u rather have? 50 or Ross"
now who stood the test of time.
but anyway. Mase won
Ross is still a popular artist
says who? his music comes and goes. hes not doing anything to have the publics interest at this point. funny how Ross fans used to always play the relevancy card. and now look. 50 is more relevant than him in music and celebrity stature. but since it goes against south ? narrative then the argument is gonna change -
freethewave wrote: »bow to royalty wrote: »bow to royalty wrote: »If y'all don't think these lines being exposed as lies, or just real weak after they're explained, weakens the track then I dunno what to tell you. It's either hating or Stanning. But ? ...to each his own
yall the same ? that say Ross won against 50 when all he told was lies in his diss songs. 50 told the truth. FOH. you want it one way. but its the other way. i get it. cam is likeable. hes funny. he took the L.
That beef was wack haha. 50 did that stupid Pinky-inspired character...I forget his name. And I can't even remember any of Ross ? . I did think that was the first beef 50 lost by 50 standards (he use to always refer to his success in rap vs his opponents and say he won. But at that time Ross was more successful) though. But you're not getting it...again. The biggest thing 50 said was Ross was a CO. and he showed a picture after. Because he knows a line being true makes a difference.
who do you think won 50 Ross?
I can't say who won but I know 50 lost 5mil
Because of that beef and that's a huge L
So it's safe to say 50 lost plus Ross career kind of took off the same time with the Big meech song while FIFs career went downhill
thats the ? im talking about lol. that court case ? happened this year or last. ? was saying 50 lost the battle way before then. was that in 2011 or 2012? 50 had the better diss songs and put hands on Ross's artist. south ? just like whos popular. just proves my point. and even now. Ross career is basically over.
i remember we had threads on here where people were asking. "whos career would u rather have? 50 or Ross"
now who stood the test of time.
but anyway. Mase won
Ross is still a popular artist
says who? his music comes and goes. hes not doing anything to have the publics interest at this point. funny how Ross fans used to always play the relevancy card. and now look. 50 is more relevant than him in music and celebrity stature. but since it goes against south ? narrative then the argument is gonna change
I don't know about 50 been more relevant than Ross musically.
In recent times I haven't seen any body with any type of interest in 50s music
I will pay to hear a Ross 16 before 50s
Fif can rhyme I just think he's personality is affecting people's perception of his music -
freethewave wrote: »bow to royalty wrote: »bow to royalty wrote: »If y'all don't think these lines being exposed as lies, or just real weak after they're explained, weakens the track then I dunno what to tell you. It's either hating or Stanning. But ? ...to each his own
yall the same ? that say Ross won against 50 when all he told was lies in his diss songs. 50 told the truth. FOH. you want it one way. but its the other way. i get it. cam is likeable. hes funny. he took the L.
That beef was wack haha. 50 did that stupid Pinky-inspired character...I forget his name. And I can't even remember any of Ross ? . I did think that was the first beef 50 lost by 50 standards (he use to always refer to his success in rap vs his opponents and say he won. But at that time Ross was more successful) though. But you're not getting it...again. The biggest thing 50 said was Ross was a CO. and he showed a picture after. Because he knows a line being true makes a difference.
who do you think won 50 Ross?
I can't say who won but I know 50 lost 5mil
Because of that beef and that's a huge L
So it's safe to say 50 lost plus Ross career kind of took off the same time with the Big meech song while FIFs career went downhill
thats the ? im talking about lol. that court case ? happened this year or last. ? was saying 50 lost the battle way before then. was that in 2011 or 2012? 50 had the better diss songs and put hands on Ross's artist. south ? just like whos popular. just proves my point. and even now. Ross career is basically over.
i remember we had threads on here where people were asking. "whos career would u rather have? 50 or Ross"
now who stood the test of time.
but anyway. Mase won
Ross is still a popular artist
says who? his music comes and goes. hes not doing anything to have the publics interest at this point. funny how Ross fans used to always play the relevancy card. and now look. 50 is more relevant than him in music and celebrity stature. but since it goes against south ? narrative then the argument is gonna change
I don't know about 50 been more relevant than Ross musically.
In recent times I haven't seen any body with any type of interest in 50s music
I will pay to hear a Ross 16 before 50s
Fif can rhyme I just think he's personality is affecting people's perception of his music
so im the man wasnt bubbling on the charts and went platinum. 50s song was jerimih isnt getting momentum? ok well i like what i like. Ross aint for me. -
freethewave wrote: »bow to royalty wrote: »bow to royalty wrote: »If y'all don't think these lines being exposed as lies, or just real weak after they're explained, weakens the track then I dunno what to tell you. It's either hating or Stanning. But ? ...to each his own
yall the same ? that say Ross won against 50 when all he told was lies in his diss songs. 50 told the truth. FOH. you want it one way. but its the other way. i get it. cam is likeable. hes funny. he took the L.
That beef was wack haha. 50 did that stupid Pinky-inspired character...I forget his name. And I can't even remember any of Ross ? . I did think that was the first beef 50 lost by 50 standards (he use to always refer to his success in rap vs his opponents and say he won. But at that time Ross was more successful) though. But you're not getting it...again. The biggest thing 50 said was Ross was a CO. and he showed a picture after. Because he knows a line being true makes a difference.
who do you think won 50 Ross?
I can't say who won but I know 50 lost 5mil
Because of that beef and that's a huge L
So it's safe to say 50 lost plus Ross career kind of took off the same time with the Big meech song while FIFs career went downhill
thats the ? im talking about lol. that court case ? happened this year or last. ? was saying 50 lost the battle way before then. was that in 2011 or 2012? 50 had the better diss songs and put hands on Ross's artist. south ? just like whos popular. just proves my point. and even now. Ross career is basically over.
i remember we had threads on here where people were asking. "whos career would u rather have? 50 or Ross"
now who stood the test of time.
but anyway. Mase won
Ross is still a popular artist
says who? his music comes and goes. hes not doing anything to have the publics interest at this point. funny how Ross fans used to always play the relevancy card. and now look. 50 is more relevant than him in music and celebrity stature. but since it goes against south ? narrative then the argument is gonna change
Haha man you ok? 50 dropped Abums in 07, 09, and '14 and nobody was listening to the 2014 project. And you're gonna say Ross's popularity comes and goes? Haha. 50 isn't more relevant musically than Ross. -
Rather you than me was dope as ? .
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freethewave wrote: »bow to royalty wrote: »If y'all don't think these lines being exposed as lies, or just real weak after they're explained, weakens the track then I dunno what to tell you. It's either hating or Stanning. But ? ...to each his own
And Jay wasn't 36 taking karate and Prodigy wasn't a ballerina. Has there ever been a diss with straight facts?
This was my point earlier. Now ? want diss records to be 100% accurate or they not effective. News flash, all rappers lie, embellish and do some form of exxagerrating on diss tracks. -
natural born sinners wrote: »freethewave wrote: »bow to royalty wrote: »If y'all don't think these lines being exposed as lies, or just real weak after they're explained, weakens the track then I dunno what to tell you. It's either hating or Stanning. But ? ...to each his own
And Jay wasn't 36 taking karate and Prodigy wasn't a ballerina. Has there ever been a diss with straight facts?
This was my point earlier. Now ? want diss records to be 100% accurate or they not effective. News flash, all rappers lie, embellish and do some form of exxagerrating on diss tracks.
Haha ok. You got it. The most outlandish lies win the battle. -
natural born sinners wrote: »freethewave wrote: »bow to royalty wrote: »If y'all don't think these lines being exposed as lies, or just real weak after they're explained, weakens the track then I dunno what to tell you. It's either hating or Stanning. But ? ...to each his own
And Jay wasn't 36 taking karate and Prodigy wasn't a ballerina. Has there ever been a diss with straight facts?
This was my point earlier. Now ? want diss records to be 100% accurate or they not effective. News flash, all rappers lie, embellish and do some form of exxagerrating on diss tracks.
Actually there's some truth in both disses..nas only exaggerated the age. Jay pulled a photo of P dressed like a ballerina. P acknowledged it.. he said his grandma had a dance school or something like that and he used to go there and try to dance like MJ -
bow to royalty wrote: »natural born sinners wrote: »freethewave wrote: »bow to royalty wrote: »If y'all don't think these lines being exposed as lies, or just real weak after they're explained, weakens the track then I dunno what to tell you. It's either hating or Stanning. But ? ...to each his own
And Jay wasn't 36 taking karate and Prodigy wasn't a ballerina. Has there ever been a diss with straight facts?
This was my point earlier. Now ? want diss records to be 100% accurate or they not effective. News flash, all rappers lie, embellish and do some form of exxagerrating on diss tracks.
Haha ok. You got it. The most outlandish lies win the battle.
Why is this even being discussed? Cam been lying about ? for 20 years, outlandishly mind you. ? just got thru lying as C tha ? mentally gave him head. I ? with Killa, but yall not gonna tell me this ? (along with Dame) ain't one of the most gossipping, back-biting muthafuckas in the game. That type of ? is wholly untrustworthy.
? ! Yall ? got me agreeing with Akademiks @gemini86 in here. -
Prodigy as a "ballerina"....
SMH. Y'all need glasses... -
Prodigy as a "ballerina"....
SMH. Y'all need glasses...
That's an 8 y o dressed as Michael Jackson...in the ? 80s....explain the etherous part to me -
Elzo69Renaissance wrote: »
Point was "this is who you really are, then you dropped shook ones and changed your demeanor
We still don't believe you are a gangster
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I seen with my own two eyes Cam leave his homie in a ? up situation. That should be the end of all discussion and debate. Horrible.
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Elzo69Renaissance wrote: »
Point was "this is who you really are, then you dropped shook ones and changed your demeanor
We still don't believe you are a gangster
So u ve been the same ? ur whole life? Lmao
The same ? u did at age 8, u did at age 20....wow... -
who wouldve ever thought a Ma$e diss record would make noise in 2017 and have a thread with 40 pages
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Elzo69Renaissance wrote: »Elzo69Renaissance wrote: »
Point was "this is who you really are, then you dropped shook ones and changed your demeanor
We still don't believe you are a gangster
So u ve been the same ? ur whole life? Lmao
The same ? u did at age 8, u did at age 20....wow...
You are missing Jays point, of course nobody remains the same, every body grows and growth brings change but he said"switched your demeanor" change from who you are to something totally different,ballerina to killer
Perfect example is MASE. From when he dropped his first album to now is he the same person? No he grew older and became more matured
But when he switched his demeanor and became a pastor did we believe him?
Meanwhile He still murdered Cam Thanksgiving weekend 2017
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bow to royalty wrote: »bow to royalty wrote: »If y'all don't think these lines being exposed as lies, or just real weak after they're explained, weakens the track then I dunno what to tell you. It's either hating or Stanning. But ? ...to each his own
yall the same ? that say Ross won against 50 when all he told was lies in his diss songs. 50 told the truth. FOH. you want it one way. but its the other way. i get it. cam is likeable. hes funny. he took the L.
That beef was wack haha. 50 did that stupid Pinky-inspired character...I forget his name. And I can't even remember any of Ross ? . I did think that was the first beef 50 lost by 50 standards (he use to always refer to his success in rap vs his opponents and say he won. But at that time Ross was more successful) though. But you're not getting it...again. The biggest thing 50 said was Ross was a CO. and he showed a picture after. Because he knows a line being true makes a difference.
who do you think won 50 Ross?
I can't say who won but I know 50 lost 5mil
Because of that beef and that's a huge L
So it's safe to say 50 lost plus Ross career kind of took off the same time with the Big meech song while FIFs career went downhill
thats the ? im talking about lol. that court case ? happened this year or last. ? was saying 50 lost the battle way before then. was that in 2011 or 2012? 50 had the better diss songs and put hands on Ross's artist. south ? just like whos popular. just proves my point. and even now. Ross career is basically over.
i remember we had threads on here where people were asking. "whos career would u rather have? 50 or Ross"
now who stood the test of time.
but anyway. Mase won
mafia music won that beef. 50 aint put out no good music and banks had to diss. -
Prodigy as a "ballerina"....
SMH. Y'all need glasses...
Prodigy said he did ballet when he was young. ? the picture, haha -
bow to royalty wrote: »bow to royalty wrote: »If y'all don't think these lines being exposed as lies, or just real weak after they're explained, weakens the track then I dunno what to tell you. It's either hating or Stanning. But ? ...to each his own
yall the same ? that say Ross won against 50 when all he told was lies in his diss songs. 50 told the truth. FOH. you want it one way. but its the other way. i get it. cam is likeable. hes funny. he took the L.
That beef was wack haha. 50 did that stupid Pinky-inspired character...I forget his name. And I can't even remember any of Ross ? . I did think that was the first beef 50 lost by 50 standards (he use to always refer to his success in rap vs his opponents and say he won. But at that time Ross was more successful) though. But you're not getting it...again. The biggest thing 50 said was Ross was a CO. and he showed a picture after. Because he knows a line being true makes a difference.
who do you think won 50 Ross?
I can't say who won but I know 50 lost 5mil
Because of that beef and that's a huge L
So it's safe to say 50 lost plus Ross career kind of took off the same time with the Big meech song while FIFs career went downhill
thats the ? im talking about lol. that court case ? happened this year or last. ? was saying 50 lost the battle way before then. was that in 2011 or 2012? 50 had the better diss songs and put hands on Ross's artist. south ? just like whos popular. just proves my point. and even now. Ross career is basically over.
i remember we had threads on here where people were asking. "whos career would u rather have? 50 or Ross"
now who stood the test of time.
but anyway. Mase won
mafia music won that beef. 50 aint put out no good music and banks had to diss.
man go ahead and try me and tia told me was light years ahead of mafia music. Fraudulent fat boy lies. Ross said he was gonna take 50s baby moms shopping on so mafioso type ? . and 50 actually went out and did it. had his kids and all. if thats not savage then i dont know what is.
but look we can agree to disagree. 50 did his thing.
