MGTOWrama : A FEMINIZM CONSEQUENCE

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  • LEMZIMUS_RAMSEY
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    LPast wrote: »
    Check this... There was a time when women were expected to wait till marriage to have sex... Maybe they would wait until they were 21, 22

    Think of asking a woman to do that today? How long would she be waiting?

    These things are factors...

    Factors to what bruh? Dont stop when you are nearing the baskt bruh. Finish please.

    Thanks
  • jono
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    Broddie wrote: »
    Don't know what this qualifies as but it seems like common sense to me

    https://youtu.be/B_hXnSJuPio

    Goooooooooood!
    She laid it down. That's what I'm talking about. All these nagging moms and white knights, It's ridiculous.

    Evergreen State College is the epitome of what happens when you let this policing of society go.
  • sunlord
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    LPast wrote: »
    Check this... There was a time when women were expected to wait till marriage to have sex... Maybe they would wait until they were 21, 22

    Think of asking a woman to do that today? How long would she be waiting?

    These things are factors...

    She's not waiting. women changed the sexual dynamics between the sexes they wanted sexual liberation and they got it and as a result young men basically have almost no respect for women and whole generations of women no longer have and respect for chastity or modesty.

    The welfare state, social liberalism, normalization of homosexuality and transgenderism, atheism/ anti-theism, no fault divorce.

    all these things being so rampant is a result of the break down of the family and traditional values which would never had happened if not for feminism.
  • LPast
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    sunlord wrote: »
    LPast wrote: »
    Check this... There was a time when women were expected to wait till marriage to have sex... Maybe they would wait until they were 21, 22

    Think of asking a woman to do that today? How long would she be waiting?

    These things are factors...

    She's not waiting. women changed the sexual dynamics between the sexes they wanted sexual liberation and they got it and as a result young men basically have almost no respect for women and whole generations of women no longer have and respect for chastity or modesty.

    The welfare state, social liberalism, normalization of homosexuality and transgenderism, atheism/ anti-theism, no fault divorce.

    all these things being so rampant is a result of the break down of the family and traditional values which would never had happened if not for feminism.

    I agree with a large part of what you said. A lot of this ? has do with rewards. What is the reward for a modest woman in 2017?

    She's not going to get married because 90% of men are not even messing with a chick that isn't ? .

    She's not getting the attention and praise that these IG chicks are getting.

  • bambu
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    Whatever happened to being hard on hoes????

    ? out here creating meninistic movements????

    You should have came up around ? like me....

    https://youtu.be/qxLp2RKXosM

  • LEMZIMUS_RAMSEY
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    bambu wrote: »
    Whatever happened to being hard on hoes????

    ? out here creating meninistic movements????

    You should have came up around ? like me....

    https://youtu.be/qxLp2RKXosM

    That approach is null and void in divorce courts bruh
  • MoneyPowerRespect
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    Circumstance BREEDS submission. Word to these Israelite Pick-me's...

    A LOT of truth spoken tho.
  • bambu
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    bambu wrote: »
    Whatever happened to being hard on hoes????

    ? out here creating meninistic movements????

    You should have came up around ? like me....

    https://youtu.be/qxLp2RKXosM

    That approach is null and void in divorce courts bruh

    But does it matter what the government rules????

    Man don't fear prosecution for being a man...



  • LEMZIMUS_RAMSEY
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    Circumstance BREEDS submission. Word to these Israelite Pick-me's...

    A LOT of truth spoken tho.

    Bonsoir madame

    Can you elaborate please?
  • sunlord
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    bambu wrote: »
    bambu wrote: »
    Whatever happened to being hard on hoes????

    ? out here creating meninistic movements????

    You should have came up around ? like me....

    https://youtu.be/qxLp2RKXosM

    That approach is null and void in divorce courts bruh

    But does it matter what the government rules????

    Man don't fear prosecution for being a man...



    yes it matters because they can take your money or put you in jail.
  • Go figure
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    Idk i feel like blaming everything on feminism is the same reaction as feminists blaming everything on men.

    Everything works hand in hand, both sides feeding off each other.

    If everyone took personal accountability most problems wouldnt exist but ppl like to group up and oppose each other until they become opposite extremes and the boat gets tilted all the way left, then all the way right, til we all get flipped over.

    So yeah society aint ? and is easily manipulated
  • LEMZIMUS_RAMSEY
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    Go figure wrote: »
    Idk i feel like blaming everything on feminism is the same reaction as feminists blaming everything on men.

    Everything works hand in hand, both sides feeding off each other.

    If everyone took personal accountability most problems wouldnt exist but ppl like to group up and oppose each other until they become opposite extremes and the boat gets tilted all the way left, then all the way right, til we all get flipped over.

    So yeah society aint ? and is easily manipulated

    Ok we got you bruh. However what are the solutions?
  • bambu
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    sunlord wrote: »
    bambu wrote: »
    bambu wrote: »
    Whatever happened to being hard on hoes????

    ? out here creating meninistic movements????

    You should have came up around ? like me....

    https://youtu.be/qxLp2RKXosM

    That approach is null and void in divorce courts bruh

    But does it matter what the government rules????

    Man don't fear prosecution for being a man...



    yes it matters because they can take your money or put you in jail.

    Money can be recoverd....

    Liberty can be reestablished....

    Manhood, however, is not something that can be surrendered and retrieved at will...



  • Go figure
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    Go figure wrote: »
    Idk i feel like blaming everything on feminism is the same reaction as feminists blaming everything on men.

    Everything works hand in hand, both sides feeding off each other.

    If everyone took personal accountability most problems wouldnt exist but ppl like to group up and oppose each other until they become opposite extremes and the boat gets tilted all the way left, then all the way right, til we all get flipped over.

    So yeah society aint ? and is easily manipulated

    Ok we got you bruh. However what are the solutions?

    Walk away from the ?

    Dont take social media so seriously
  • Splackavelli
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    The MGTOW'ers really sound like a lot of butt hurt men.
    It reminds me of the women who scream '? ain't ? ' all day.

    They kept picking ? women and blame the women. Nah, you gotta figure out what it is about that ? that keeps attracting ? ? .

    And until they reach some sort of moral high ground, the cycle is going to keep going.

    I don't see mtgow as a sweeping accusation of women. Its more of an awareness .it's learning the signs of a bad woman being able to detect ain't shitness and not allowing yourself to be a victim. Its about avoiding aimtmshit women not avoidimgmwomen completely. Its more or less getting the bad weeds out of the garden ,taking the bad apples out of the bunc
  • texas409
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    sunlord wrote: »
    LPast wrote: »
    Check this... There was a time when women were expected to wait till marriage to have sex... Maybe they would wait until they were 21, 22

    Think of asking a woman to do that today? How long would she be waiting?

    These things are factors...

    She's not waiting. women changed the sexual dynamics between the sexes they wanted sexual liberation and they got it and as a result young men basically have almost no respect for women and whole generations of women no longer have and respect for chastity or modesty.

    The welfare state, social liberalism, normalization of homosexuality and transgenderism, atheism/ anti-theism, no fault divorce.

    all these things being so rampant is a result of the break down of the family and traditional values which would never had happened if not for feminism.

    so what youre saying and is evident is that giving women the freedom to live like they want to live with freedom to do what they want was not a good thing and these broads are proven time and time again throughout history of making terrible decisions for themselves that go against their own well being???
  • Madame_CJSkywalker
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    LordZuko wrote: »
    LordZuko wrote: »
    Mister B. wrote: »
    Why does something have to be ? , tho. Cause it doesn't follow the typical social standards?

    That why I believe in MGTOW. Going your own way isn't about shutting women out, it's about living your life by YOUR rules, and not the rules and standards most people think you should live.

    "You need to be married."

    "You need to have kids to pass your name on."

    Nah. You NEED to shut the ? up and worry about what YOU'RE doing.

    ^
    these rules and standards are what some may refer to as “the patriarchy”

    patriarchy and its enforced gender roles

    just based off the videos, i'd even argue MGTOW movement is a re-branding of third wave feminism ironically...minus the misogyny


    uqxglu39b7ae.gif

    Mgtow is men highlighting all the ways that they can be exploited and avoiding the pitfalls of patriarchy


    Fixed that for you

    Patriarchy is a general clown term that feminists throw around to cop out to their ? actions.

    For example feminists complain that it is patriarchy that is responsible for women being granted automatic custody of children, when in fact it was feminists who argued the "tender years doctrine" that young children need their mothers more than their fathers.

    In the criminal justice system women routinely receive sentences that are anywhere from 40% to 60% reduction of what a man would receive. Especially in crimes of statutory ? . Feminists have never argued "benevolent sexism" when it comes to negative consequences.

    The 1 in 4 ? culture hysteria began by Andrea dworkin has snowballed into this college climate where specifically college males can be accused of ? , and based upon the preponderance of the evidence, whether or not it could be true, he is then expelled his record irrevocably tarnished. Even when it comes out the girl was lying, nothing happens to her, the boy is not reinstated.
    Even girls who engage in the same behavior that gets boys expelled as rapists, don't suffer these consequences. Feminists don't argue that these girls should be charged or expelled.

    Women have falsely accused men of ? , received financial compensation as a result. It later comes out that they lie but the men who go to jail behind this are never compensated for their lost time and destroyed lives.

    yes in 1839 it was a woman who helped convince an all male british parliament enact the “tender years” doctrine, in which it was believed that children were best served by being left primarily with their mother. the thinking was men needed to be in the workforce, and would not have time for the woman’s work of parenting. women were inherently better parents. etc

    prior to that in the event of a divorce mothers had no rights because most the rights women possessed derived through their fathers or husbands. a social organization marked by the supremacy of the father in the family resulting in the legal dependence of wives and children. the woman who spear headed the campaign for the doctrine was inspired to act after she herself had been deprived from seeing her children after a bitter divorce

    today the doctrine has been replaced by the "best interests of the child" doctrine in the majority of states

    that said, there is little to no substantial evidence that false ? accusations are this big and growing problem. most rapes and sexual assaults go unreported. while false ? accusations do occur, we also have evidence that many accusations of sexual assault and ? ignored or dismissed. there have been numerous of times were ? are only given a slap on the wrist. instances of rapists being granted custody of the children they share with their victims. we have evidence that ? investigations, including ? kits, are systemically mishandled by local and state law enforcement. the system is a mess. but i hear very little outrage from men rights groups when the injustice doesn't support their narrative

    also just because a ? or sexual assault accusation does not lead to charges or a conviction that does not mean that any one lied as you and ur brethren like to suggest. not to mention there have been times

    i will admit that recently some of the more recent remedies that have been pushed to protect sexual assault victims and rectify mistakes made in the past are unjust to men ...said as much numerous times on here

    so yea there is ? and hypocrisy.... on both sides, that is

    both men and women are capable and have been guilty of perpetuating and enforcing strict gender roles
    (i.e. women better parents, men better providers, women are weak, men are better leaders ) and at times used as a means to further their individual and or collective causes. for example, when women were either outlawed or faced barriers when it came to voting and fully participating in politics, owning property or taking out loans from financial institutions without the co-signature of a man. martial ? being a impossibility

    and on a societal, global scale i believe there is a bias in terms of leadership and authority that favors men... as a result men run just about everything. the government. religious institutions. way more male CEOs. entertainment industry. male dominated industries, career fields are more valued

    you don't want to call it 'patriarchy' cool...but the same pressure placed on men to conform to the standard ideals of masculinity which you've argued drives men to suicide in higher numbers derives from the same source as the pressure placed on women to be meek and submissive; dress modestly; infantilized women
  • sunlord
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    bambu wrote: »
    sunlord wrote: »
    bambu wrote: »
    bambu wrote: »
    Whatever happened to being hard on hoes????

    ? out here creating meninistic movements????

    You should have came up around ? like me....

    https://youtu.be/qxLp2RKXosM

    That approach is null and void in divorce courts bruh

    But does it matter what the government rules????

    Man don't fear prosecution for being a man...



    yes it matters because they can take your money or put you in jail.

    Money can be recoverd....

    Liberty can be reestablished....

    Manhood, however, is not something that can be surrendered and retrieved at will...



    MONEY cannot always be recovered and liberty cannot always be reestablished.... what it takes a life time to build can be destroyed in a moment. ? accusations stay with you forever they are a matter of public record, a man can have all the money and liberty but once a reputation is tarnished it's sullied and there's no changing that.

    A female can legally use the apparatuses of this society against you and all our concepts of "MANHOOD" mean nothing until the primary foundation of manhood is reestablished and that foundation is MALE AUTHORITY. Your level of "MANHOOD" is directly proportional to your level of AUTHORITY, authority over ourselves, women, children, family, community and government must be reborn.
  • LEMZIMUS_RAMSEY
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    LordZuko wrote: »
    LordZuko wrote: »
    Mister B. wrote: »
    Why does something have to be ? , tho. Cause it doesn't follow the typical social standards?

    That why I believe in MGTOW. Going your own way isn't about shutting women out, it's about living your life by YOUR rules, and not the rules and standards most people think you should live.

    "You need to be married."

    "You need to have kids to pass your name on."

    Nah. You NEED to shut the ? up and worry about what YOU'RE doing.

    ^
    these rules and standards are what some may refer to as “the patriarchy”

    patriarchy and its enforced gender roles

    just based off the videos, i'd even argue MGTOW movement is a re-branding of third wave feminism ironically...minus the misogyny


    uqxglu39b7ae.gif

    Mgtow is men highlighting all the ways that they can be exploited and avoiding the pitfalls of patriarchy


    Fixed that for you

    Patriarchy is a general clown term that feminists throw around to cop out to their ? actions.

    For example feminists complain that it is patriarchy that is responsible for women being granted automatic custody of children, when in fact it was feminists who argued the "tender years doctrine" that young children need their mothers more than their fathers.

    In the criminal justice system women routinely receive sentences that are anywhere from 40% to 60% reduction of what a man would receive. Especially in crimes of statutory ? . Feminists have never argued "benevolent sexism" when it comes to negative consequences.

    The 1 in 4 ? culture hysteria began by Andrea dworkin has snowballed into this college climate where specifically college males can be accused of ? , and based upon the preponderance of the evidence, whether or not it could be true, he is then expelled his record irrevocably tarnished. Even when it comes out the girl was lying, nothing happens to her, the boy is not reinstated.
    Even girls who engage in the same behavior that gets boys expelled as rapists, don't suffer these consequences. Feminists don't argue that these girls should be charged or expelled.

    Women have falsely accused men of ? , received financial compensation as a result. It later comes out that they lie but the men who go to jail behind this are never compensated for their lost time and destroyed lives.

    yes in 1839 it was a woman who helped convince an all male british parliament enact the “tender years” doctrine, in which it was believed that children were best served by being left primarily with their mother. the thinking was men needed to be in the workforce, and would not have time for the woman’s work of parenting. women were inherently better parents. etc

    prior to that in the event of a divorce mothers had no rights because most the rights women possessed derived through their fathers or husbands. a social organization marked by the supremacy of the father in the family resulting in the legal dependence of wives and children. the woman who spear headed the campaign for the doctrine was inspired to act after she herself had been deprived from seeing her children after a bitter divorce

    today the doctrine has been replaced by the "best interests of the child" doctrine in the majority of states

    that said, there is little to no substantial evidence that false ? accusations are this big and growing problem. most rapes and sexual assaults go unreported. while false ? accusations do occur, we also have evidence that many accusations of sexual assault and ? ignored or dismissed. there have been numerous of times were ? are only given a slap on the wrist. instances of rapists being granted custody of the children they share with their victims. we have evidence that ? investigations, including ? kits, are systemically mishandled by local and state law enforcement. but i hear very little outrage from men rights groups when the injustice doesn't support their narrative

    also just because a ? or sexual assault accusation does not lead to charges or a conviction that does not mean that any one lied as you and ur brethren like to suggest. not to mention there have been times

    i will admit that recently some of the more recent remedies that have been pushed to protect sexual assault victims and rectify mistakes made in the past are unjust to men ...said as much numerous times on here

    so yea there is ? .... on both sides, that is

    both men and women are capable and have been guilty of perpetuating and enforcing strict gender roles
    (i.e. women better parents, men better providers, women are weak, men are better leaders ) and at times used as a means to further their individual and or collective causes. for example, when women were either outlawed or faced barriers when it came to voting and fully participating in politics, owning property or taking out loans from financial institutions without the co-signature of a man. martial ? being a impossibility

    and on a societal, global scale i believe there is a bias in terms of leadership and authority that favors men... as a result men run everything. the government. religious institutions. way more male CEOs. entertainment industry

    you don't want to call it 'patriarchy' cool...but the same pressure placed on men to conform to the standard ideals of masculinity which you've argued drives men to substance abuse and even suicide derives from the same source as the pressure placed on women to be meek and submissive; dress modestly; infantilized women

    Damn FINALLY you recognize that there is ? on both sides.

    Bravo. Keep on that way sister.
    What are the solutions?
  • sunlord
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    texas409 wrote: »
    sunlord wrote: »
    LPast wrote: »
    Check this... There was a time when women were expected to wait till marriage to have sex... Maybe they would wait until they were 21, 22

    Think of asking a woman to do that today? How long would she be waiting?

    These things are factors...

    She's not waiting. women changed the sexual dynamics between the sexes they wanted sexual liberation and they got it and as a result young men basically have almost no respect for women and whole generations of women no longer have and respect for chastity or modesty.

    The welfare state, social liberalism, normalization of homosexuality and transgenderism, atheism/ anti-theism, no fault divorce.

    all these things being so rampant is a result of the break down of the family and traditional values which would never had happened if not for feminism.

    so what youre saying and is evident is that giving women the freedom to live like they want to live with freedom to do what they want was not a good thing and these broads are proven time and time again throughout history of making terrible decisions for themselves that go against their own well being???

    YES. HOWEVER If women want to live in a world without male authority then they are going to have to be held up to the same standards that men are held up to.....right now they are not. We are given the illusion that women want to be equal to men but they really don't want to be what they want is all the authority but none of the responsibility.
  • bambu
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    sunlord wrote: »
    bambu wrote: »
    sunlord wrote: »
    bambu wrote: »
    bambu wrote: »
    Whatever happened to being hard on hoes????

    ? out here creating meninistic movements????

    You should have came up around ? like me....

    https://youtu.be/qxLp2RKXosM

    That approach is null and void in divorce courts bruh

    But does it matter what the government rules????

    Man don't fear prosecution for being a man...



    yes it matters because they can take your money or put you in jail.

    Money can be recoverd....

    Liberty can be reestablished....

    Manhood, however, is not something that can be surrendered and retrieved at will...



    MONEY cannot always be recovered and liberty cannot always be reestablished.... what it takes a life time to build can be destroyed in a moment. ? accusations stay with you forever they are a matter of public record, a man can have all the money and liberty but once a reputation is tarnished it's sullied and there's no changing that.

    A female can legally use the apparatuses of this society against you and all our concepts of "MANHOOD" mean nothing until the primary foundation of manhood is reestablished and that foundation is MALE AUTHORITY. Your level of "MANHOOD" is directly proportional to your level of AUTHORITY, authority over ourselves, women, children, family, community and government must be reborn.

    I was mostly referring to divorce situations...

    But, I been with the ? ....

    fq34ode41d09.jpg


    Needs a harder name tho....

    Hard on hoes, sounds much better...


  • jono
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  • Madame_CJSkywalker
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    sunlord wrote: »
    AZTG wrote: »
    texas409 wrote: »
    AZTG wrote: »
    texas409 wrote: »
    LordZuko wrote: »
    Cain wrote: »
    Get this stupid ? out of here b.

    Lol at this semi-I hate women but love women ? FOH

    You a dinosaur. You're out of touch with what's going on between the sexes and the state.

    Men, young men are responding to the situation in an unexpected way.

    Mgtow is not about hating women, it's not about loving them either. It's about recognizing how females have been placed upon a pedestal and it's created a disastrously destructive narcissistic, entitled and unreasonable creature.

    Mgtow is men simply understanding that they are undervalued and made out to be creeps rapists violent people who are this general danger to society juxtaposed to women who are made out to be these saintly creatures who are wise and maternal, perpetually oppressed by men, can do no wrong, but in the happenstance she does something criminal or unethical you can just blame it on the nearest man.

    It all goes back to Eve and her temptation by Satan. The woman was used as a catalyst to deceive mankind. Her looks, her influence, her seduction was used to destroy what was meant to be good. It wasnt her fault initially but she was used in the end. And we see it happening again today. now women are bold as ever they run the household they are all over social media dressed scantily as ever and if folks say "hey put some clothes on there are kids looking" that person gets accused for being a scorned hater and looked at as if they are wrong for actually having morals. More and more of these dudes are coming out as ? (female influence) daily wearing dresses and ? . Open your eyes and see that none of this is coincidence

    But dog, who cares man? ? what women do, ? who coming out as ? , like why even waste time and energy on this dumb ? ?

    Live your life, put that energy towards being happy and thats it.

    I dont get it. Open my eyes and do what? Fight for the rights of men? Cmon man.

    All this nonsense.

    There have always been dudes getting ? on by women, and there have always been men ? on women, and there were always members of both sexes who were above all that and lived life without giving a ? .

    As a man, I never felt under attack by society, or women or a woman. If I ever ran into a chick that said dumb ? , i was like this ? is crazy and bounced. If I ever ran into a sexy ass ? that couldnt be trusted, i hit and never trusted her. And whenever I fell in love with a woman, I dated her, enjoyed the moment, and when it ended, in a good or bad way, I moved on.

    Are men actually feeling like they under attack? ? is baffling to me. Yo its a mans world, we lucky to be men.

    I swear this sounds like white people saying they under attack.

    I agree with you I once was on some he man woman hater ? and it caused me to miss out on living life and being happy with myself. now I just bag em and tag em without feelings and I never felt better. But I am still seeing a worsening trend that is poisoning our society with letting women have too much power. facts is facts fam like I said a person pointing out the ? shouldnt feel bad or belittled for pointing out the ? ......

    The only thing I can say about the changes in society, and I dont want to take this thread there so I wont get too deep, is that you are looking at society through the eyes of a man, and it looks bad.

    And the point I want to make is, we always look at things through the eyes of the oppressed, but never the eyes of the oppressor. Generally speaking, when it comes to gender, women were historically opressed by men. Ill throw a bs number out and say, men had 90% of the power, and women had 10%. Now, in the last few years, women have gotten more powerful and gained a more equal rights, and the power in society now might now be 70%-30%.

    So, as a man, we lost 20% of the power, and power is the hardest thing to lose, so it scares and worries us. Thats why now men are like "we are under attack". When you look at it objectively, its easy to tell men to ? cause being a man is still far more advantageous, but if you look at it from a mans perspective, all we've ever known was having 90% of the power, and being at 70% we feel like were under attack, and acting like ? .

    Its kind of like a person who for whatever reason always made a 100k a year, and now he took a paycut and is making 60k. Hes gon a be like damn im broke, how can I survive, and the guy thats always been making 30k is gonna be like bruh ? , im doing ok at 30k, you gonna be alright, but to the guy that always made a 100k, being broke at 60 is reality.

    Thats whats happening in society. When we say there is more equality now, it means that the someone lost power, and someone gained it. In this case, men lost a bit, so now they feeling weak cause they arent as powerful as they were, but men just gotta remember that its still a mans world and we have way more power than women and be happy.

    Thats truly the only way to end feminism too, if you care to end it. Funny that feminist women can only have as much power as men give them. If men stopped listening and caring, and just laughed at what feminists say, leave them alone, and ? with women who dont care about all that, the movement will die out.

    But, the issue is, there are a lot of men who are in love with a feminist chick and mad at the world cause they cant control her and should actually be mad at themselves and stop loving these feminists.

    I personally have 0 issues with feminists btw. Its more lile, idgaf. They could do what makes them happy, and ill do what makes me happy, there is enough space in this life for us all to do us and be happy.

    I think you have been brainwashed with the feminist view of history..... this idea that men just oppressed women is nonsense at least it is for western society. In the past life was hard but women always had it much easier than men because all the hard jobs were done by men women couldn't do them.

    MEN have always done everything, men build everything biology and reality dictates that we build and run societies. In the past women could not reasonable protect themselves so therefore men had to do it which means all the wars we had too fight they benefited from and all they had to do was submit to male authority, make children and do house work.

    women/feminist no longer want to submit to male authority but they still want to benefit from male authority and this whole attitude people have that idgaf I am just going to do me is exactly the kind of mentality that destroys a nation because while you don't give a ? feminist are getting laws and regulations made.

    what about our biology dictates that men run everything? especially in contemporary times
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    Submission means that the will and desires of women must be secondary and women should not set policy for anything important to the bigger picture, they should have no influence over the political, social outlook of men but men should have influence over them.

    ironically men love women and want what is best for them so we would still consider their well being and what is best for them. As it is now women are dictating too much of what is good for society while at the same time not taking full responsibility for society OR THEMSELVES because when anything goes wrong WHO do they turn to for help??? MEN be it the men in their personal lives or the government.

    but when men get into trouble who do we turn to??? no one but ourselves.

    @atribecalledgabi
    @Madame_CJSkywalker what do yall think of it?

    Please dont be aggressive.

    basically he is arguing women are just tall children

    can't take him seriously