Denzel Washington: Don't Blame The Prison System, 'It Starts At The Home'

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  • CapitalB
    CapitalB Members Posts: 24,556 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    LPast wrote: »
    That's why you teach your kids about life... It starts at home.

    Y'all explain 360 reasons why you need to keep your kids on the straight and narrow. Teach them about being a good person. Teach them about consequences. Teach them about how life isn't fair.

    cause kids are ? perfect right!!?
    or have the propensity to be?!
  • CapitalB
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    u ? i swear!!? smmfh
  • 7figz
    7figz Members Posts: 15,294 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2017
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    LPast wrote: »
    That's why you teach your kids about life... It starts at home.

    Y'all explain 360 reasons why you need to keep your kids on the straight and narrow. Teach them about being a good person. Teach them about consequences. Teach them about how life isn't fair.

    Right, do all that - then when they go out and the system treats them unfairly, you blame them ?

    If it's that simple for you dudes - then case closed, y'all just on a different side of the fence.

    Keep thinking that the people who see it differently are ignorant and unaccountable, etc.. etc...

    Mind you, you got people with PhD's, ex-prosecutors, lawyers, folks who have no records at all and work everyday who see problems with the system.
  • CapitalB
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    “teach them about how life isnt fair.”
    is basically teaching them to accept the ? ..

    “to starve”

    less its a kid like me who says ? it..
    “if life aint fair ? am i playin it that way for!!?”

    u type ? rather livea long nothin ass life..
    me and my kind rather die a short glorius one.

    to each they own..
    dont call me a criminal i want call u a sucka ass ? .
  • LPast
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    7figz wrote: »
    LPast wrote: »
    That's why you teach your kids about life... It starts at home.

    Y'all explain 360 reasons why you need to keep your kids on the straight and narrow. Teach them about being a good person. Teach them about consequences. Teach them about how life isn't fair.

    Right - then when they go out and the system treats them unfairly, you blame them ?

    If it's that simple for you dudes - then case closed, y'all just on a different side of the fence.

    Keep thinking that the people who see it differently are ignorant and unaccountable, etc.. etc...

    Mind you, you got people with PhD's, ex-prosecutors, layers, folks who have no records at all and work everyday who see problems with the system.

    1. Kids aren't perfect

    I see the problems with the system. For example if you want to smoke weed. If you are white there may be a 5% chance you are arrested for it. If you are black there may be a 50% chance you are arrested for it. And you know this information BEFORE you decide to smoke.

    Does that information tell you anything about how to conduct yourself?

    Y'all on the other hand is expecting the racist white cop to treat you like that 5%. Keep waiting...
  • 7figz
    7figz Members Posts: 15,294 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    LPast wrote: »
    7figz wrote: »
    LPast wrote: »
    That's why you teach your kids about life... It starts at home.

    Y'all explain 360 reasons why you need to keep your kids on the straight and narrow. Teach them about being a good person. Teach them about consequences. Teach them about how life isn't fair.

    Right - then when they go out and the system treats them unfairly, you blame them ?

    If it's that simple for you dudes - then case closed, y'all just on a different side of the fence.

    Keep thinking that the people who see it differently are ignorant and unaccountable, etc.. etc...

    Mind you, you got people with PhD's, ex-prosecutors, layers, folks who have no records at all and work everyday who see problems with the system.

    1. Kids aren't perfect

    I see the problems with the system. For example if you want to smoke weed. If you are white there may be a 5% chance you are arrested for it. If you are black there may be a 50% chance you are arrested for it. And you know this information BEFORE you decide to smoke.

    Does that information tell you anything about how to conduct yourself?

    Y'all on the other hand is expecting the racist white cop to treat you like that 5%. Keep waiting...

    Where the ? you gettin' this from ?

    All we doing is calling the ? out instead of acting like it's nothing wrong with the ? system.

    ? y'all talmbout ?

    And if you "see problems with the system" (as you claim), then why the ? would you make a statement like "can't blame the system".

    You MFs are killing y'all own POV with your own statements.

    Then MFs keep going back to some ? like somebody's saying people who commit the crimes didn't commit a crime. MF - we said that, 1 page back and 2 pages back - and probably several other ? ' pages.

    We just ain't walkin around only blaming the criminals and not the system. This ? is like beating a dead horse with yall dudes.
  • LPast
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    7figz wrote: »
    LPast wrote: »
    7figz wrote: »
    LPast wrote: »
    That's why you teach your kids about life... It starts at home.

    Y'all explain 360 reasons why you need to keep your kids on the straight and narrow. Teach them about being a good person. Teach them about consequences. Teach them about how life isn't fair.

    Right - then when they go out and the system treats them unfairly, you blame them ?

    If it's that simple for you dudes - then case closed, y'all just on a different side of the fence.

    Keep thinking that the people who see it differently are ignorant and unaccountable, etc.. etc...

    Mind you, you got people with PhD's, ex-prosecutors, layers, folks who have no records at all and work everyday who see problems with the system.

    1. Kids aren't perfect

    I see the problems with the system. For example if you want to smoke weed. If you are white there may be a 5% chance you are arrested for it. If you are black there may be a 50% chance you are arrested for it. And you know this information BEFORE you decide to smoke.

    Does that information tell you anything about how to conduct yourself?

    Y'all on the other hand is expecting the racist white cop to treat you like that 5%. Keep waiting...

    Where the ? you gettin' this from ?

    All we doing is calling the ? out instead of acting like it's nothing wrong with the ? system.

    ? y'all talmbout ?

    And if you "see problems with the system" (as you claim), then why the ? would you make a statement like "can't blame the system".

    You MFs are killing y'all own POV with your own statements.

    Then MFs keep going back to some ? like somebody's saying people who commit the crimes didn't commit a crime. MF - we said that, 1 page back and 2 pages back - and probably several other ? ' pages.

    We just ain't walkin around only blaming the criminals and not the system. This ? is like beating a dead horse with yall dudes.

    You can't blame the system... Because it isn't broken. Simple as that. You think it is some kind of miscalculation? A glitch? A mistake?

    My PS4 doesn't play Nintendo and Microsoft games... Is it broken?
  • 7figz
    7figz Members Posts: 15,294 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    LPast wrote: »
    7figz wrote: »
    LPast wrote: »
    7figz wrote: »
    LPast wrote: »
    That's why you teach your kids about life... It starts at home.

    Y'all explain 360 reasons why you need to keep your kids on the straight and narrow. Teach them about being a good person. Teach them about consequences. Teach them about how life isn't fair.

    Right - then when they go out and the system treats them unfairly, you blame them ?

    If it's that simple for you dudes - then case closed, y'all just on a different side of the fence.

    Keep thinking that the people who see it differently are ignorant and unaccountable, etc.. etc...

    Mind you, you got people with PhD's, ex-prosecutors, layers, folks who have no records at all and work everyday who see problems with the system.

    1. Kids aren't perfect

    I see the problems with the system. For example if you want to smoke weed. If you are white there may be a 5% chance you are arrested for it. If you are black there may be a 50% chance you are arrested for it. And you know this information BEFORE you decide to smoke.

    Does that information tell you anything about how to conduct yourself?

    Y'all on the other hand is expecting the racist white cop to treat you like that 5%. Keep waiting...

    Where the ? you gettin' this from ?

    All we doing is calling the ? out instead of acting like it's nothing wrong with the ? system.

    ? y'all talmbout ?

    And if you "see problems with the system" (as you claim), then why the ? would you make a statement like "can't blame the system".

    You MFs are killing y'all own POV with your own statements.

    Then MFs keep going back to some ? like somebody's saying people who commit the crimes didn't commit a crime. MF - we said that, 1 page back and 2 pages back - and probably several other ? ' pages.

    We just ain't walkin around only blaming the criminals and not the system. This ? is like beating a dead horse with yall dudes.

    You can't blame the system... Because it isn't broken. Simple as that. You think it is some kind of miscalculation? A glitch? A mistake?

    My PS4 doesn't play Nintendo and Microsoft games... Is it broken?

    End of discussion - for you anyway.

    Numerous threads, pointing out how the system is broken, including some that you probably posted in yourself.
  • sunlord
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    sunlord wrote: »
    sunlord wrote: »
    stats don't lie and stats record black people doing a disproportionate amount of crime which only fuels greater police presence and pressure on our communities which then in turn adds more to those stats which justifies the greater police pressure which keeps the cycle rolling

    is the bolded really true tho?

    or is there already an increased police presence that seems to find more black people who commit crime?




    looking at stats from the drug war, technically there are more white drug users and dealers just by increased population numbers vs. black folks

    why aren't those same numbers reflected in the prison population?

    are u really suggesting that black people as a whole commit more crime for the 13% black free population to justify the 50% black confined population?

    Black people do the most crime but that only means we get caught and convicted more Maybe whites do sell and use more drugs. They are the largest population so that assumption would make sense HOWEVER since they don't get caught and convicted as much we can never really know WHICH race is actually doing more crime. We can only know who gets caught more, Stats reflect who is getting caught not who is actually doing more crime

    Why don't whites get caught as much??? because the police don't scrutinize them as much..... why??? because those communities don't give them as much reason to. white people sell and use drugs but they don't turn their neighborhoods into shooting galleries in other words it's the concentration of murders and violence in black communities that draw increased police pressure which leads to higher rates of imprisonment. On top of that black people are stigmatized as criminals always have been but today we play into the stigmatization our youth fuels this native image by their violent stupid behavior.

    One of the most violent groups in America is probably outlaw bikers, these are mostly white male gangs but outlaw bikers don't murder or assault nearly as much people as gangsta disciples, vice lords or the various blood and Crip organizations,

    it's hard to believe the bolded when majority of the offenses cats are locked up for are nonviolent drug crimes

    white people do sell and use drugs more..........but police presence isn't in their neighborhood at the same rates as black neighborhoods.........yet u are naive enough to really think that black folks are not targeted for other reasons

    SMH @ u thinking it's just cuz black people are more violent

    there are too many instances where white people have been violent and those same white folks have been treated better than black folks when being arrested, tried and sentenced





    the Bureau of Prisons shows as of 25 Nov 17 that majority of folks in prison are there for drugs..........all the other crimes are broken out and don't even compare in number to say police only care about violent crime

    https://www.bop.gov/about/statistics/statistics_inmate_offenses.jsp




    this chart below shows that currently the incarcerated population is almost 40% black even tho if u look at latest census as of 2010 black people are only approximately 12% - 14% of the entire US population

    https://www.bop.gov/about/statistics/statistics_inmate_race.jsp


    even if u reasonably consider a pretty big margin of error in those stats, there is no way u can't be alarmed at a 40% prison population coming from a 12-14% overall population

    at some point the numbers have got to make u realize something is wrong

    SMH, You still don't get it AND i think you might be the one that's a little naive because the mindset of law enforcement is that the use and or sales of drugs is intrinsically linked to murder and violence so therefore by stopping drugs you stop violence and other degenerate social behavior. Yes whites do lots of drugs but there neighborhoods are safer than ours.

    Never said police don't target blacks more however it is exactly because too many black communities have become crime ridden and violent that we give them more justification to target us. AND YES i am saddened by those numbers because it means that clearly we know the police are targeting us yet we continue to fall into their hands.
  • LPast
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    7figz wrote: »
    LPast wrote: »
    7figz wrote: »
    LPast wrote: »
    7figz wrote: »
    LPast wrote: »
    That's why you teach your kids about life... It starts at home.

    Y'all explain 360 reasons why you need to keep your kids on the straight and narrow. Teach them about being a good person. Teach them about consequences. Teach them about how life isn't fair.

    Right - then when they go out and the system treats them unfairly, you blame them ?

    If it's that simple for you dudes - then case closed, y'all just on a different side of the fence.

    Keep thinking that the people who see it differently are ignorant and unaccountable, etc.. etc...

    Mind you, you got people with PhD's, ex-prosecutors, layers, folks who have no records at all and work everyday who see problems with the system.

    1. Kids aren't perfect

    I see the problems with the system. For example if you want to smoke weed. If you are white there may be a 5% chance you are arrested for it. If you are black there may be a 50% chance you are arrested for it. And you know this information BEFORE you decide to smoke.

    Does that information tell you anything about how to conduct yourself?

    Y'all on the other hand is expecting the racist white cop to treat you like that 5%. Keep waiting...

    Where the ? you gettin' this from ?

    All we doing is calling the ? out instead of acting like it's nothing wrong with the ? system.

    ? y'all talmbout ?

    And if you "see problems with the system" (as you claim), then why the ? would you make a statement like "can't blame the system".

    You MFs are killing y'all own POV with your own statements.

    Then MFs keep going back to some ? like somebody's saying people who commit the crimes didn't commit a crime. MF - we said that, 1 page back and 2 pages back - and probably several other ? ' pages.

    We just ain't walkin around only blaming the criminals and not the system. This ? is like beating a dead horse with yall dudes.

    You can't blame the system... Because it isn't broken. Simple as that. You think it is some kind of miscalculation? A glitch? A mistake?

    My PS4 doesn't play Nintendo and Microsoft games... Is it broken?

    End of discussion - for you anyway.

    Numerous threads, pointing out how the system is broken, including some that you probably posted in yourself.

    If it's broken, who is going to fix it?
  • 2stepz_ahead
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    ooohhhh.
    ok...i see @7figz done got the gawd @CapitalB on his side now.

    they done woke the sleeping lion huh?

    imma clean this cat litter then imma come back in here
  • CapitalB
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    ooohhhh.
    ok...i see @7figz done got the gawd @CapitalB on his side now.

    they done woke the sleeping lion huh?

    imma clean this cat litter then imma come back in here

    my ? continue on wit ur day..
    u already know how this gonna turn out if u turn up.

    lets be civil..
    we got a trip to plan muthafucka.
  • CapitalB
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    LPast wrote: »
    7figz wrote: »
    LPast wrote: »
    7figz wrote: »
    LPast wrote: »
    7figz wrote: »
    LPast wrote: »
    That's why you teach your kids about life... It starts at home.

    Y'all explain 360 reasons why you need to keep your kids on the straight and narrow. Teach them about being a good person. Teach them about consequences. Teach them about how life isn't fair.

    Right - then when they go out and the system treats them unfairly, you blame them ?

    If it's that simple for you dudes - then case closed, y'all just on a different side of the fence.

    Keep thinking that the people who see it differently are ignorant and unaccountable, etc.. etc...

    Mind you, you got people with PhD's, ex-prosecutors, layers, folks who have no records at all and work everyday who see problems with the system.

    1. Kids aren't perfect

    I see the problems with the system. For example if you want to smoke weed. If you are white there may be a 5% chance you are arrested for it. If you are black there may be a 50% chance you are arrested for it. And you know this information BEFORE you decide to smoke.

    Does that information tell you anything about how to conduct yourself?

    Y'all on the other hand is expecting the racist white cop to treat you like that 5%. Keep waiting...

    Where the ? you gettin' this from ?

    All we doing is calling the ? out instead of acting like it's nothing wrong with the ? system.

    ? y'all talmbout ?

    And if you "see problems with the system" (as you claim), then why the ? would you make a statement like "can't blame the system".

    You MFs are killing y'all own POV with your own statements.

    Then MFs keep going back to some ? like somebody's saying people who commit the crimes didn't commit a crime. MF - we said that, 1 page back and 2 pages back - and probably several other ? ' pages.

    We just ain't walkin around only blaming the criminals and not the system. This ? is like beating a dead horse with yall dudes.

    You can't blame the system... Because it isn't broken. Simple as that. You think it is some kind of miscalculation? A glitch? A mistake?

    My PS4 doesn't play Nintendo and Microsoft games... Is it broken?

    End of discussion - for you anyway.

    Numerous threads, pointing out how the system is broken, including some that you probably posted in yourself.

    If it's broken, who is going to fix it?

    the system aint broken..
    its runnin smoothly.
  • 7figz
    7figz Members Posts: 15,294 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    LPast wrote: »
    7figz wrote: »
    LPast wrote: »
    7figz wrote: »
    LPast wrote: »
    7figz wrote: »
    LPast wrote: »
    That's why you teach your kids about life... It starts at home.

    Y'all explain 360 reasons why you need to keep your kids on the straight and narrow. Teach them about being a good person. Teach them about consequences. Teach them about how life isn't fair.

    Right - then when they go out and the system treats them unfairly, you blame them ?

    If it's that simple for you dudes - then case closed, y'all just on a different side of the fence.

    Keep thinking that the people who see it differently are ignorant and unaccountable, etc.. etc...

    Mind you, you got people with PhD's, ex-prosecutors, layers, folks who have no records at all and work everyday who see problems with the system.

    1. Kids aren't perfect

    I see the problems with the system. For example if you want to smoke weed. If you are white there may be a 5% chance you are arrested for it. If you are black there may be a 50% chance you are arrested for it. And you know this information BEFORE you decide to smoke.

    Does that information tell you anything about how to conduct yourself?

    Y'all on the other hand is expecting the racist white cop to treat you like that 5%. Keep waiting...

    Where the ? you gettin' this from ?

    All we doing is calling the ? out instead of acting like it's nothing wrong with the ? system.

    ? y'all talmbout ?

    And if you "see problems with the system" (as you claim), then why the ? would you make a statement like "can't blame the system".

    You MFs are killing y'all own POV with your own statements.

    Then MFs keep going back to some ? like somebody's saying people who commit the crimes didn't commit a crime. MF - we said that, 1 page back and 2 pages back - and probably several other ? ' pages.

    We just ain't walkin around only blaming the criminals and not the system. This ? is like beating a dead horse with yall dudes.

    You can't blame the system... Because it isn't broken. Simple as that. You think it is some kind of miscalculation? A glitch? A mistake?

    My PS4 doesn't play Nintendo and Microsoft games... Is it broken?

    End of discussion - for you anyway.

    Numerous threads, pointing out how the system is broken, including some that you probably posted in yourself.

    If it's broken, who is going to fix it?

    Irrelevant. If it ain't broken, to you, then why the ? you worrying about who's fixing it.

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  • Shizlansky
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    Is anything ever black ppl fault?
  • sunlord
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    Shizlansky wrote: »
    Is anything ever black ppl fault?

    No because we are nothing but children devoid of any agency
  • CapitalB
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    Shizlansky wrote: »
    Is anything ever black ppl fault?

    instead of blaming try understanding..

    u ? wanna be white so ? bad.
  • CapitalB
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    u ? wont blame a ? for gettin ? ..
    wont dare say a ? brought it on herself..

    but be ready and willin to blame ? for bein persecuted.

    funny how that works..
  • CapitalB
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    sunlord wrote: »
    Shizlansky wrote: »
    Is anything ever black ppl fault?

    No because we are nothing but children devoid of any agency

    then in come this ? immigrant ? .
  • 7figz
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    CapitalB wrote: »
    Shizlansky wrote: »
    Is anything ever black ppl fault?

    instead of blaming try understanding..

    u ? wanna be white so ? bad.

    Facts. ? is pathetic.

    I'm not even ? ' with these MFs who come in every few pages with the same 1-liner like they ain't read all the valid points people on (and off) the IC have made on the topic. MFs already said, ad nauseam, where the resposibilities lie and these geniuses keep coming back with the same ? .
  • CapitalB
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    ? hold the athletes they root for to a higher standard than the politicians they vote for..

    let ur team quarterback not do they ? job..
    yet politicians aint been doin theirs for generations..

    but instead of holdin them accountable lets jus place blame on the downtrodden.. “they should know better.”
  • playmaker88
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  • aneed123
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    7figz wrote: »
    aneed123 wrote: »
    CapitalB wrote: »
    aneed123 wrote: »
    CapitalB wrote: »
    this ? thread again!!? i tried ignorin this ? ..
    log on see 200+ new posts..

    thats how bad i been tryin to avoid this convo..

    so what do i do!!?
    my ? say “self.. jus go to the last page and see whats goin on..”

    first post aneed..
    bad post.. but not horrible..
    then i see fuckniggazombie 2.0

    yeh now im ? ..
    im almost home.. yall hold on. lol

    whats wrong with my post

    cause hindsiight is 20/20

    u made it out thats fine and dandy..
    but we go sir here and act like by the time a nogga figures this out it aint already too late??

    i mean yeh ? is fuckups.. but so is everybody else.

    BUT WR’RE TARGETED..
    i dont think u ? truly grasp the weight of that ? ..

    blak was jus postin about it on this very page..

    everybody does crime..
    muthafuckas is literally gettin rich sellin weed now and ? still sittin in jail for it..
    Hugh Hefner PimPd and Pandered into his fortune..

    we aint doin ? nobody else is doin but we persecuted and prosecuted for it..

    so lets jus call it what the ? it is..
    its illegal to be black..

    white kid steals they call his parents he gets picked up from the store.. black kid goin in the back of a police car goin to the station gettin fingerprinted and picture taken..

    why is that? to get him in the system..

    i reconditioned the way i think on my own..
    i realize my reality at the time was built on a lie.. i wanted to be mad at my mom but how could i be mad at her and not my grandmother for raisin her like that?? and hell if imma be mad at her then i gotta be mad at my great grandma..

    they can only teach what they know..

    u ? is outside lookin in castin judgement and that ? irks me..

    u dont realize ur poor til ur around an environment that isnt..

    u said it, the game is ? rigged.. aint no but aftet that unless its “but i made it”
    ill congratulate a ? who made it but ull never see me admonish someone for failing when the system IS DESIGNED for them to do jus that.

    u ? come off as real gumps when topics like this arise..

    i hear u. but at the end of the day if u make a choice to do something and get caught u gotta accept responsibility and eat the consequences... u cant blame

    Bruh, MFs just explained the last 2 pages for you and you still on the same ? . Even you partially explained the ? in your own post. You sayin the system is "rigged", how the ? can you not hold also hold it accountable ? smh - lost cause.

    No my ? . u seem to be the lost cause. U lashing out at anyone who don't see ? the way u do. I'm a grown ass man in the regards of I know its rigged ? up system. I know the decks are stacked against me as a black man. But I'm not a criminal. Instead of selling dope or weed and risk going to jail I went another direction. Point being if I chose to go that route and got caught I aint bout to blame no damn system or no white folk. I'm gonna look myself in the mirror and say Aneed u made that choice and dem crackers caught me. Suck it up and do my time. All that other ? is what lil kids and ? do to try and explain they ? up away.
  • LPast
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    Funny thing is that immigrants typically come from places where the police and government are way more corrupt. You don't have to explain ? like this too them..
  • D. Morgan
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    CapitalB wrote: »
    Shizlansky wrote: »
    Is anything ever black ppl fault?

    instead of blaming try understanding..

    u ? wanna be white so ? bad.

    They want to assimilate so bad but want to avoid the backlash they would get from fully assimilating.

    Can't have it both ways. Pick a side and stand on it.