Steph Curry Vs CP3 Vs Russell Westbrook

Curry won the mvp being on the better team. Rw had a great season last year. If the thunder would have finished 4th in the west he would have won the mvp

Steph Curry is averaging a league leading 33 ppg on 53% shooting right now as a jump shooter and hes currently 16th in the league in freethrow attempts. Most of ur top scorers n scoring champs are generally at the top or near the top of the list in attempts. Curry carved his own lane ? gotta accept it.

The fact that Curry can be argued as the best player in the league right now kinda puts this whole thread to rest..

(Nope) wrote: »

Curry is definitely turning into more of a shooter than a true pg, but he's still the best at that position.

Chris Paul is the only guy in the league who warrants an argument to the contrary. They are the smartest and most skillful players at the pg.

Westbrook's athleticism is off the charts, he's tough as ? , and he stuffs stats, but he makes some of the worst decisions you will ever see on the basketball court. With Durant out last year, he tried to carry that team, and he couldn't. Westbrook is a great player and that in and of itself makes your team more formidable, but he doesn't actually make other players better or control the flow of a game - he can hardly control himself. You think dudes look at Russ and are like "Yo that spasmodic blouse-model is a true leader"?

Chris Paul is a floor general. That team could lose Blake tomorrow, replace him with bumass-Josh Smith and Paul would make a cohesive playoff team out of who was left. (Also, running the offense through Blake is ? that team up, and needs to stop.)

Stef, could probably have double-digit assists every night, but that's not what his team needs from him, nor is it what they are asking him to do, and by virtue of simply being on the court he creates major problems for opposing defenses. No doubt the Warriors have a good team, but the threat of Curry, allows for players who wouldn't be nearly as involved on offense to be scorers. With Klay possibly missing a game or two, we will see what's what, but Stef is their leader and he earned that ? .

Also, not that Rondo should be in the convo, but he's starting to ball again on the Kings. Him and Cousins need to stop turning the ? ball over tho.

And ? need not forget this....
he can pass just as great as he can shoot/move without the rock, and dribble

This thread remind me of when I was in straight denial that LeBron>>>>Kobe.

I've learned my lesson and now I'm just gonna kick back and appreciate greatness. Even if he ain't a Laker

ericb4prez wrote: »

Lmao so because I haven't seen all the GS games I can't comment and your last comment actually goes both ways cuz just cuz you say it don't make it true either

Curry avg 24ppg, nothing crazy, so if you didnt see the games last year that is extremely misleading

I learned that in the finals. He impacts the game in a way that even isn't caught in points or assists . Just in how far out you have to defend on pick n rolls alone

Peace_79 wrote: »

En-Fuego22 wrote: »

Curry won the mvp being on the better team. Rw had a great season last year. If the thunder would have finished 4th in the west he would have won the mvp

Lol, well if we play the "If Game" - you could say literally ANYTHING.

It isn't like they're going to give the mvp to someone who didn't make the playoff. RW Should have been the mvp last yr

Siqnih Da Trapper wrote: »

DR. JEK wrote: »

Curry give CP3 the blues

And Westbrook even tho hes dominate at times play outta control sometimes and dont know when to let Durant cook.

That ? ass cross over? Dude tripped over shoe B.. how many all first team do Westbrook and curry have????

YDH

He 'tripped' bc his brain and feet went out of sync. Couldn't process quick enough ...thats what happens when you yank a ?

Peace_79 wrote: »

Focal Point wrote: »

Some of ya ? clearly don't know ? about basketball, especially the pg position.

@Focal Point
Names...

Explanation

First thing I'm gonna say is steals don't dictate a good to great defensive player in the same way blocks don't either. Jumping the passing lane is a gamble. Number two this argument is damn near the LeBron v Meko debate of many years ago Meko scores but LeBron facilitates and scores.

As far as the pg position is concern, the pg is the general, the game plan has to be ran by them. Steph is almost like how AI was, a 2 running the point and no1 called AI a great pg even though he passed the ball. Chris is a the game's best pg. He understands certain nuances to the game and knows how to run the court. Russell is a walking stat stuffer and leads by his will and actions. He's no leading pg though.

Then I seen the argument of how can you be the game's best player but not the game's best point guard, well that's like saying Jordan was the game's best player but not the game's best center or power forward or 3 or point... he just balled like Steph is doing.

Peace_79 wrote: »

1) No one said that steals dictate a great defensive player. But high steals in the context of the eye test can support the argument of a good defensive player.

Same with Blocks... So Mutumbo and Dwight Horward weren't good defenders because they tallied several Blocks/game? ... Riiiiight

You guys are using outliers to make your arguments.

But Joe Blow had high FG% so FG% doesn't matter

Flawed logic





2) Steph is NOT AI ... Two different players

Check Steph's stats across the board; especially efficiency ...

The check AI's, bruh

Also Iverson was a Shooting Gaurd and he certainly played like one. Bad comparison.






3) Your flipping the argument at the end:

"How can MJ be the game's best player but not the game's best SG?"

Answer me that...


And while your at it, answer this -

Forget stats for a moment, what is the ultimate goal of being the "floor general" on a basketball court?

Is it not to win games... Go deep in the playoffs?
...Win championships?

Clippers have had one of the most loaded rosters in the league the last few years ... Hands Down

I'll do you a solid and call stats a wash ...
I'll even call the talent even for both teams...

Explain to me the difference in success?

What flawed logic???

1. Eye test can't be supported if I'm watching him gamble. Its the same with AI back in the day, he'd get steals too, but by playing the passing lane, not so much guarding up and stopping his man to a degree. Also playing defense is more than getting blocks, it's help side D, Defensive rebounds, altering passes, forcing penatrators to reconsider driving to the paint, contending against post players and being able to move your feet and timing your defense. And I didn't say you said anything about steals, I simply made a point about it.

2. Look up what position they had AI playing often. All I'm comparing is the scenario of position to match the team's needs. By intents and purposes, Steph is a 2 playing the point, a really good point running with him would make him even more dangerous.

3. I'm not flipping the argument. Steph is amazing and ballin his ass off, but are you honestly going to tell me that he runs an offense better than CP3 or sets up players better. That's what a pg job is. Can Steph score better than Paul, without a doubt, but that doesn't make him a better point. Paul passes the ball better, sees the necessary changes needed to be made in an offense to facilitate better

The ultimate job of a floor general is to run the game plan crafted by the coach, set up their teammates, see and understand the defense to put their teammates in better scoring positions, play D, and correct mistakes on the floor; which is why a point will know where every player is supposed to be in every play. They are also able to score too which places pressure on the defense.

As far as MJ he's going to be the games best two guard because he embodies and does everything that a two guard is suppose to do to the utmost which is shooting and scoring although there will be others who argue the point of his reasoning as the best 2 guard and rather call him the best player because there were better shooters out there such as Reggie Miller, Mitch Richmond, Ray Allen, Connie Hawkins, and the such.

Are we talking Clips vs Dubs or overall playoff success?