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Spurs gonna win tonight's game. I have a feeling they'll pull one out.
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Kd top 2 in my book, just a bit distant
Kawhi Cold but got a bit to go on offense n playmaking b4 passing kd -
Breezy_Kilroy wrote: »PanchoYoSancho wrote: »Breezy_Kilroy wrote: »Anybody taking Kawhi over KD or vice versa?
And is KD still a top 5 player?
My mans strongly believes KD isn't top 5 anymore because he didn't make 1st team. I think that's a ? reason. Before KD got injured he was the definition of efficient.
To me it's a toss up. KD still a top 5 player in this league. He just doesn't have to carry the load as much offensively, but he's shooting a career high FG% in the regular season and postseason. Offensively both as a scorer and passer it's still him>>Kawhi by a slight margin, but Kawhi's defense is second to none. Kawhi had the better season to me just because more is being asked of him and he's delivered, but he has to continue to play at this level and do more as a passer for me to definitively say he's ahead of KD.
Lmaooo by a slight margin
They not in the same gym offensively
Give me KD on defense too since he guarding 1-5
Is this really a conversation
For some. This is a convo I was in on. My response ain't on here cuz it's too long
X: how are they (GS) worse with a top 5 player added?you smoking
My mans: If you know anything about basketball that don't mean ? he top 5 but didn't even make all NBA 1st team that top 5 spot closing..I want whatever y'all on
X: nah kawhi not better than KD yet
My mans: Shidddd you say he own LeBron he definitely owns KD every time they play lol who got a finals MVP and 2 DPOY before 25? Not KD all he got is a MVP and a few scoring titles
Im mad I read this ? . You should be banned for a day. -
Peezy_Jenkins wrote: »Kd top 2 in my book, just a bit distant
Kawhi Cold but got a bit to go on offense n playmaking b4 passing kd
Kawhi. It far from kd offensively he may not be behind like you think he is he kd scores "prettier" than kawhi but still gets it done and kawhi is a way better defensive player than kd kawhi is is better imo for his prowess in both sides -
EmM HoLLa. wrote: »KnowReasonForPeace wrote: »KnowReasonForPeace wrote: »NoCanadiansEH wrote: »
Always showing up in the playoffs will matter when that goat discussion is had. Taking games off and losing to a clearly inferior team doesnt help.
But Jordan has had ? playoff games too. Contrary to popular belief he wasn't perfect and had some bad playoff games when his team needed him too
Has he ever been accused of playing passive or scared? I laugh when people say that they wanna see the RoboBron or whatever they call him.
MJ was in destroy mode at all times. If his shot ain't fallin, he at least was giving full effort and not playing scared. You don't have to worry about which MJ is gonna show up. Lebron don't have that killer instinct that Jordan and Kobe possess. I'ts why little ? and role players like DeShawn Stevenson, Lance, Draymond don't have no problem stepping to him. Lebron is a great player but he can be frustrating to watch at times.
While I agree LeBron can be confusing to watch at times it amazing how people forget just how much Jordan let the Pistons get to him and all the complaining he did. Go look at the Bad Boys documentary NBA TV did and they have footage in it of MJ whining about how the Pistons played him and how it was bad for the game and needed to be done away with. MJ is the goat but he wasn't this perfect player who never had a bad game. He had his share of bad playoff games too...less than most but he had moments he didn't always show up
Beatung ? up on the court isn't good defense man. That ? was bad for the game Jordan always showed up in the playoffs and i dont think anyone say he never had had games, just none in the playoffs
I agree the "I can't stop you so ima hurt you" defensive strategy is ? and that's why I laugh when people say players were so much better in the past.
MJ did have bad playoff games though. For instance everyone remembers Jordan dropping 63 pts vs Boston but its never mentioned the next game he went 8-18 wit 5 turnovers. Another elimination game he shot 9-30 and lost. Another game he shot 5-15 in a game and his team lost the series lead and eventually the series itself. 1990 ECF game he shot 7-19...he's had bad playoff games. ? have just been brainwashed by only seeing his highlight reels people now think he never made any mistakes
All valid.. Thing is.. Once Mike figured out how to win.. He didnt stink up the joint again. Thats the difference..
FALSE.
He had plenty of bad games during the dynasty.
Difference is you can never question his effort or will to win during a game. -
Breezy_Kilroy wrote: »PanchoYoSancho wrote: »Breezy_Kilroy wrote: »Anybody taking Kawhi over KD or vice versa?
And is KD still a top 5 player?
My mans strongly believes KD isn't top 5 anymore because he didn't make 1st team. I think that's a ? reason. Before KD got injured he was the definition of efficient.
To me it's a toss up. KD still a top 5 player in this league. He just doesn't have to carry the load as much offensively, but he's shooting a career high FG% in the regular season and postseason. Offensively both as a scorer and passer it's still him>>Kawhi by a slight margin, but Kawhi's defense is second to none. Kawhi had the better season to me just because more is being asked of him and he's delivered, but he has to continue to play at this level and do more as a passer for me to definitively say he's ahead of KD.
Lmaooo by a slight margin
They not in the same gym offensively
Give me KD on defense too since he guarding 1-5
Is this really a conversation
For some. This is a convo I was in on. My response ain't on here cuz it's too long
X: how are they (GS) worse with a top 5 player added?you smoking
My mans: If you know anything about basketball that don't mean ? he top 5 but didn't even make all NBA 1st team that top 5 spot closing..I want whatever y'all on
X: nah kawhi not better than KD yet
My mans: Shidddd you say he own LeBron he definitely owns KD every time they play lol who got a finals MVP and 2 DPOY before 25? Not KD all he got is a MVP and a few scoring titles
Im mad I read this ? . You should be banned for a day.
You should be mad for me. I actually know this ? . I wanted to kick a puppy earlier today.
I could make an entire thread on the dumb ? he says. I thought about it. It's just too much work. -
Ghostdenithegawd wrote: »Peezy_Jenkins wrote: »Kd top 2 in my book, just a bit distant
Kawhi Cold but got a bit to go on offense n playmaking b4 passing kd
Kawhi. It far from kd offensively he may not be behind like you think he is he kd scores "prettier" than kawhi but still gets it done and kawhi is a way better defensive player than kd kawhi is is better imo for his prowess in both sides
I just think KD is pretty much the easiest scorer in the league, kawhi make strides yearly but he not there yet, there are times when he scores but it looks like it took a lot of work, he'll get there with more work on ball handling and post play. Plus kd defense is improved, of course kawhi is in another league there tho -
EmM HoLLa. wrote: »KnowReasonForPeace wrote: »KnowReasonForPeace wrote: »NoCanadiansEH wrote: »
Always showing up in the playoffs will matter when that goat discussion is had. Taking games off and losing to a clearly inferior team doesnt help.
But Jordan has had ? playoff games too. Contrary to popular belief he wasn't perfect and had some bad playoff games when his team needed him too
Has he ever been accused of playing passive or scared? I laugh when people say that they wanna see the RoboBron or whatever they call him.
MJ was in destroy mode at all times. If his shot ain't fallin, he at least was giving full effort and not playing scared. You don't have to worry about which MJ is gonna show up. Lebron don't have that killer instinct that Jordan and Kobe possess. I'ts why little ? and role players like DeShawn Stevenson, Lance, Draymond don't have no problem stepping to him. Lebron is a great player but he can be frustrating to watch at times.
While I agree LeBron can be confusing to watch at times it amazing how people forget just how much Jordan let the Pistons get to him and all the complaining he did. Go look at the Bad Boys documentary NBA TV did and they have footage in it of MJ whining about how the Pistons played him and how it was bad for the game and needed to be done away with. MJ is the goat but he wasn't this perfect player who never had a bad game. He had his share of bad playoff games too...less than most but he had moments he didn't always show up
Beatung ? up on the court isn't good defense man. That ? was bad for the game Jordan always showed up in the playoffs and i dont think anyone say he never had had games, just none in the playoffs
I agree the "I can't stop you so ima hurt you" defensive strategy is ? and that's why I laugh when people say players were so much better in the past.
MJ did have bad playoff games though. For instance everyone remembers Jordan dropping 63 pts vs Boston but its never mentioned the next game he went 8-18 wit 5 turnovers. Another elimination game he shot 9-30 and lost. Another game he shot 5-15 in a game and his team lost the series lead and eventually the series itself. 1990 ECF game he shot 7-19...he's had bad playoff games. ? have just been brainwashed by only seeing his highlight reels people now think he never made any mistakes
All valid.. Thing is.. Once Mike figured out how to win.. He didnt stink up the joint again. Thats the difference..
FALSE.
He had plenty of bad games during the dynasty.
Difference is you can never question his effort or will to win during a game.
Never that bad bro.. My dude aint score in the fourth.. Thats a different type of bad for someone they are trying to make the goat. On top of that the opposition was missing thier best player.. -
KingFreeman wrote: »its....JOHN B wrote: »Atlanta needs to go ahead and trade Dwight
Dwight needs to understand he's a 2nd/3rd fiddle. Him an milsap a perfect pair up front if he stops acting like a ? ? and gets with the program.
No that ? needs to go. -
Yall stuck with him...Dwight is HOME
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We're getting a new GM. He'll be gone soon. It's only a 3 yr contract. He won't do two more ? ass seasons here.
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An extension for John Wall will be Washington’s top priority this offseason, sources tell J. Michael of Comcast Sportsnet. The team hasn’t yet reached out to Wall, but the front office is expected to do so now that Wall has made an All-NBA team this season and is eligible for the Designated Veteran Player Extension.
Wall can sign on for an additional four years and nearly $170MM with the CBA’s new extension. While that may be tempting to most, Wall isn’t ready to sign on the dotted line just yet. Sources tell Michael that Wall would like to see the front office’s plan for the future before committing long-term.
it's either treadmill hawks/raptor status for washington or lames gonna be scramblin to dickride whatever team wall goes too.
knowing this pocket watching hoe ? he aint turning down 170 mil.
get ready
they goin for the long walk -
That boy got 70 mil coming over three years
Who trading for obsolete dwight? -
Tommy bilfiger wrote: »An extension for John Wall will be Washington’s top priority this offseason, sources tell J. Michael of Comcast Sportsnet. The team hasn’t yet reached out to Wall, but the front office is expected to do so now that Wall has made an All-NBA team this season and is eligible for the Designated Veteran Player Extension.
Wall can sign on for an additional four years and nearly $170MM with the CBA’s new extension. While that may be tempting to most, Wall isn’t ready to sign on the dotted line just yet. Sources tell Michael that Wall would like to see the front office’s plan for the future before committing long-term.
it's either treadmill hawks/raptor status for washington or lames gonna be scramblin to dickride whatever team wall goes too.
knowing this pocket watching hoe ? he aint turning down 170 mil.
get ready
they goin for the long walk
As long as John on a competitive team I'll be happy -
KnowReasonForPeace wrote: »Lebron literally quit on the cavs. You can never say that abput jordan. Regardless lebron can still be considered the goat with more play.
Kobe quit on the Lakers in a game 7 when he literally refused to shoot for an entire half while his team blew a 3-1 series lead yet nobody ever mentions that....and the LeBron quit stuff is over stated. People bring up the Boston series while forgetting in the elimination game the ? had a triple double. That's a hell of a way to quit
Actually it's not in game 5 of that series an important swing game at home lebron went 3-14 15 points while his team got washed by 32.Back then before he stayed on stacked squads with multiple teammates who can drop 30+ he couldn't afford that type of performance.Duke was Completely disengaged and that's where the quit talk came from(which I agree with) he also faked that elbow injury.
But he had a triple double in game 6 which is exactly what box score watchers like yourself are impressed with.Just wanted to clarify that you can keep capin -
That boy got 70 mil coming over three years
Who trading for obsolete dwight?
The Wizards -
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Tommy bilfiger wrote: »An extension for John Wall will be Washington’s top priority this offseason, sources tell J. Michael of Comcast Sportsnet. The team hasn’t yet reached out to Wall, but the front office is expected to do so now that Wall has made an All-NBA team this season and is eligible for the Designated Veteran Player Extension.
Wall can sign on for an additional four years and nearly $170MM with the CBA’s new extension. While that may be tempting to most, Wall isn’t ready to sign on the dotted line just yet. Sources tell Michael that Wall would like to see the front office’s plan for the future before committing long-term.
it's either treadmill hawks/raptor status for washington or lames gonna be scramblin to dickride whatever team wall goes too.
knowing this pocket watching hoe ? he aint turning down 170 mil.
get ready
they goin for the long walk
Lol how your knees holding up?
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Most important #'s toronto raptors 0 championships 0 finals trips 1-11 vs the bulls in the last 3 years
It took multiple derrick rose knee injuries for the bulls to fall off.Raptors always been fugazi & I've said several times bulls should rebuild. -
One ECF appearance since Jordan
Made it out the first round 4x in 20 years
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Take lebron off the heat
07- 1st round exit
08- 15-67 no playoffs
09- 1st round exit
10-1st round exit
15- no playoffs
16- 2nd round exit(lost to the fraud raptors Lolll)
17- no playoffs
:# franchise irrelevant as ? without #6 and that fluke title in 06 where d whistle and the refs beat dallas
No wonder these groupies dickride the wizards so much. -
Tommy bilfiger wrote: »Take lebron off the heat
07- 1st round exit
08- 15-67 no playoffs
09- 1st round exit
10-1st round exit
15- no playoffs
16- 2nd round exit(lost to the fraud raptors Lolll)
17- no playoffs
:# franchise irrelevant as ? without #6 and that fluke title in 06 where d whistle and the refs beat dallas
No wonder these groupies dickride the wizards so much.
Forgot to add the heat went 30-11 in the 2nd half just to miss the playoffs lol,14th pick when they coulda been top 5
Ay at least they hug after games and have a strong bond.They'll need it cuz lebron aint walking through that door and neither is miami heats relevance.
Bulls at least have an all nba all star talent to trade or build wit miami has 0 all stars and limited cap space damn. -
? said take LeBron off the heat. You can't omit and erase history to skew things
In the last 20 years:
Bulls - 1 ECF and past the first round in 4 years
Heat - 7 ECF and past the first round in 9 years
Most importantly, three champions to the bulls' ZERO
Lames been dickriding Chris Paul ever since rose started getting hurt. Homie used to ride for clipset hardbody until he realized he was a loser just like melo who he chastises. Melo been to the conference finals though
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Bulls been relying on McDermott, niko mirotic, and Paul zipser the last few years to turn into decent players lol
Homie out here praying for hamidou diallo to come through and be a decent role player
NO good young prospects, traded for cameron Payne, and got a gang of non shooting point guards on the team -
One ECF appearance since Jordan
Made it out the first round 4x in 20 years
? shooting the most tho lmao.
