White Supremacist rally in Charlottesville
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Madame_CJSkywalker wrote: »You keep trying to paint these marchers and those who share their sentiments as being harmless unemployed losers with the exception of a few potentially homicidal crazies
That's not quite the picture I wanted to paint, so if that is indeed the picture, then I apologize for being a ? -poor painter.Madame_CJSkywalker wrote: »Thats not true lol
Eh, yes, not entirely true. They're all certainly not harmless. But I still contend (and this is one of my main points), that they're not as "big" as many people claim them to be. This is the alt right we're talking about. Wait, maybe you're not just talking about the alt right. If not, then I agree. I already agreed with you in a recent post.Madame_CJSkywalker wrote: »Many of the ppl carrying the torches and chanting blood and soil in the photos have been outted. One was a teacher. One was the president of his schools Republican Committee
Yes, I agree. That's good. ? them.Madame_CJSkywalker wrote: »Many of them could very well have a future in politics
Yes, yes. We've been over this. I agree with you. Once again, I believe we were talking about slightly different things. And once again, I love to see them get brolic, outed, and defeated. I'm not scared of these people. I will fight them until my last breath.Madame_CJSkywalker wrote: »Many of the ppl who watched the events unfold on tv who sympathize with the alt right, white supremacist and white nationalist are in goverment and law enforcement
Yes...Madame_CJSkywalker wrote: »So its not so easy to escape their reach
Uh, yes, but not if we fight them in reasonable ways. -
Madame_CJSkywalker wrote: »What factions on the left are comparable to the neo nazis or white nationalists ????
One easy answer that I'm sure you're aware of (though the media rarely covers them) is Antifa. There are many other obvious examples that are generally comparable. But I think you mean comparable in terms of violence? Such examples are BAMN and Refuse Fascism. Have you heard of George Soros? If there's one main point I want to raise is the lack of fair media coverage and the ? that comes from both sides.
Surely, you don't think that the left is innocent in all of this. The main point is that both sides have been pushed to either extremes and are feeding on each other, and this is a very bad thing. I don't see why people can't acknowledge this. It's moderates and reasonable people like me (excuse my self-indulgence) that see this and are inevitably ostracized because we refuse to take either side and to point out the idiocy of both sides. Two sides of the same damn coin, and it's been like this for several decades.Madame_CJSkywalker wrote: »And the media is guilty of a lot but my point of contention is that the liberal media and specifically the identity politics of the left has played a big part in inflaming and perpetuating racial discontent that has driven white ppl particularly white men to join the alt right, neo Nazis, vote for Trump
Hmm, I'm not so sure about playing a "big" part, but I do believe it's helping play a role that's palpable. But it's not just the media. The media is just one piece. I mean, there are countless examples across the nation and even here on this site. If you haven't already, you should check out some "alternative" news media.Madame_CJSkywalker wrote: »And this bizaro idea that racial discord is caused by speaking out about discrimination, not by discrimination itself
Honest question: did I say that? Are you saying I said that? Or are you just twisting my words? Because I don't subscribe to that strict idea.Madame_CJSkywalker wrote: »Which is a popular argument among the right
Meh, I don't think I would know.Madame_CJSkywalker wrote: »Again i believe its ridiculous
Sounds so.Madame_CJSkywalker wrote: »This country was built on white supremacy and xenophobia. The liberal media didnt interrupt progression toward racial harmony. Remove rachel maddow from the equation and we still have racial turmoil
Again, I'm not sure how this applies to me. ??? -
The Lonious Monk wrote: »The Lonious Monk wrote: »
and not to mention..
two of them dead ? were POLICE!!?!?
and ? in here mad!!? smmfh
I don't wish death on nobody but the cops death have not really been talked about. I felt sorry for the white broad getting killed though. I agree with you though on the so back and watch this play out. If some do called woke CAC won't to get ran over and beat up for the cause cool and a bunch of Naxi and KKK ? dying as well. I'm not going to be outraged over it.
I will feel for their families tho
that house ? had no business bein there..
his fault..
and i dont wish death on no one either but im numb to it..
not due to the media either.. iv been numb to death for years now..
but this is the type of ? i said would happen America is bein destroyed from within..
they have nothin left to feed on but themselves..
? aint about that life i dont care how tuff they talk on here orelse they wouldve been bucked.. the monster has to be fed tho.. and now its feedin on itself..
im good wit that..
let this ? destroy itself and we build from that..
its gonna get a whole lot worse.. but it has to in order for it to get better..
I can understand your reasoning for not thinking black people should be out there. But I'm not understanding the whole "house ? " ? . It's not like they were out there bootlicking. They were out there going to war with Nazis. Since when is battling racists house ? ? ?
okay.. sorry for the delay the GoT thread distracted me..
we had some new developments! hahahaha
but yeh..
all house ? wasnt necessarily "boot lickers" but they was still in the house..
sayin that to say a house ? has a certain mentality..
he believes for whatever reason in the system.. which is why u see ? in here upset Trump is destroyin it.. (they house) a house ? believes in protests.. a house ? believes that deep down his master gives a ? about him and can be reasoned with..
Martin Luther King was a house ? ..
Malcolm was a field ? ..
there is a difference..
u dont fight racism by protesting.. why are we even fightin racism!? ita gonna alwaya be here.. we always fightin for muthafuckas ro accept us when we ahould be empowering ourself so a muthafucka will respect us..
but nah.. lets march and beg for ? .. or be mad and scream at ? ..
this aint our fight.. only thing them ? is doin out there is gettin in the way of these white folks killin theyself.. they let us ? each other and go to jail for it they aint gotta fight us..
well look how the tables have turned..
Interesting PoV. I guess I could see merit in it if it weren't for one of the sides of this fight being a stated enemy of black people. It would be like slave owners fighting white abolitionists. You could argue that it might be better to let both sides destroy each other, but why would slaves gamble on that when they could side with the abolitionists and guarantee that the slave owners lose? -
I know he's paid to be "that way"/GOP contrarian-apologist (and he worked under the Bush admin) which is disgusting in it's own right, but I think this sofT (yeah the "t" is capitalized) ass nikka REALLY believes what he's talking about.
Shut is unnerving! lol -
I keep telling you all that @ghostdog56 @Plutarch @blackgod813 @5th Letter @D. Morgan @CapitalB @ineedpussy and @janklow are all either undercover racists that steal black pictures to pose as their own........or they're some of the dumbest black folk that I've ever come across.
The ? that they've pushed in this thread is similar to the ? they pushed before the election, which was all done to make the readers of these threads dumber and more prone to not vote.
But you're a troll. I can't take you seriously.
You can be funny sometimes though. That's your value on the IC: comic relief. I see you're committed to your trade. Keep at it. -
The Lonious Monk wrote: »The Lonious Monk wrote: »The Lonious Monk wrote: »
and not to mention..
two of them dead ? were POLICE!!?!?
and ? in here mad!!? smmfh
I don't wish death on nobody but the cops death have not really been talked about. I felt sorry for the white broad getting killed though. I agree with you though on the so back and watch this play out. If some do called woke CAC won't to get ran over and beat up for the cause cool and a bunch of Naxi and KKK ? dying as well. I'm not going to be outraged over it.
I will feel for their families tho
that house ? had no business bein there..
his fault..
and i dont wish death on no one either but im numb to it..
not due to the media either.. iv been numb to death for years now..
but this is the type of ? i said would happen America is bein destroyed from within..
they have nothin left to feed on but themselves..
? aint about that life i dont care how tuff they talk on here orelse they wouldve been bucked.. the monster has to be fed tho.. and now its feedin on itself..
im good wit that..
let this ? destroy itself and we build from that..
its gonna get a whole lot worse.. but it has to in order for it to get better..
I can understand your reasoning for not thinking black people should be out there. But I'm not understanding the whole "house ? " ? . It's not like they were out there bootlicking. They were out there going to war with Nazis. Since when is battling racists house ? ? ?
okay.. sorry for the delay the GoT thread distracted me..
we had some new developments! hahahaha
but yeh..
all house ? wasnt necessarily "boot lickers" but they was still in the house..
sayin that to say a house ? has a certain mentality..
he believes for whatever reason in the system.. which is why u see ? in here upset Trump is destroyin it.. (they house) a house ? believes in protests.. a house ? believes that deep down his master gives a ? about him and can be reasoned with..
Martin Luther King was a house ? ..
Malcolm was a field ? ..
there is a difference..
u dont fight racism by protesting.. why are we even fightin racism!? ita gonna alwaya be here.. we always fightin for muthafuckas ro accept us when we ahould be empowering ourself so a muthafucka will respect us..
but nah.. lets march and beg for ? .. or be mad and scream at ? ..
this aint our fight.. only thing them ? is doin out there is gettin in the way of these white folks killin theyself.. they let us ? each other and go to jail for it they aint gotta fight us..
well look how the tables have turned..
Interesting PoV. I guess I could see merit in it if it weren't for one of the sides of this fight being a stated enemy of black people. It would be like slave owners fighting white abolitionists. You could argue that it might be better to let both sides destroy each other, but why would slaves gamble on that when they could side with the abolitionists and guarantee that the slave owners lose?
Those were different circumstances. Tactics have to change with the times. We are not slaves so we can not think like slaves or fight like slaves. Slavery is over so it is not relevant in this fight. The mind and resources are the weapons these days. People don't seem to understand chess not checkers. Tell me. What will be gained by engaging in physical combat with these People? Nothing. You defend yourself if they attack though obviously. -
I keep telling you all that @ghostdog56 @Plutarch @blackgod813 @5th Letter @D. Morgan @CapitalB @ineedpussy and @janklow are all either undercover racists that steal black pictures to pose as their own........or they're some of the dumbest black folk that I've ever come across.
The ? that they've pushed in this thread is similar to the ? they pushed before the election, which was all done to make the readers of these threads dumber and more prone to not vote.
But you're a troll. I can't take you seriously.
You can be funny sometimes though. That's your value on the IC: comic relief. I see you're committed to your trade. Keep at it.
Pretty accurate list -
blackgod813 wrote: »Shizlansky wrote: »Our main problem is getting organized.
Why the ? we can't do that ? .
too many people involved..
people want the ? to happen overnight as well..
? needs to bubble slow..
it took generations for us to get here.. go take generations for us to get out..
we aint the ones who go see the promise land.. our kids are.. and thats what its about..
people want the ? for themselves now!
and thats not gonna happen..
You forgot many blacks just dont care enough and are content @blackgod813 with the way things are, also plenty of ? and uncle toms who think nothing is wrong at all
Fixed
Apathy is far more common than righteous furry...most white people are apathetic an so are most people...if things dont effect them personally it just doesn't matter..we been at war 16yrs but if you not in the army or live in Afghanistan most likely you don't care...most of us want love an hiphop an McDonald's..how many even knew that statue existed...
Yo homie you been trolling us all this time. ? using big words like apathetic and ? but last year you couldn't even form a sentence correctly. I see you my ? -
Big PR loss for the President here. It's inconceivable that he keeps pandering to that narrow sect of his base. A country can't survive for long if its citizens are divided.
Politically, he's incompetent at the moment. -
Big PR loss for the President here. It's inconceivable that he keeps pandering to that narrow sect of his base. A country can't survive for long if its citizens are divided.
Politically, he's incompetent at the moment.
At the moment?
That ? has been incompetent running on 4-5 decades now.
Most financial experts have said that if Trump solely invested his Father's inheritance and put it into stocks and ? , he'd be worth considerably more money than he is now.
He's a ? up and he is a white supremacist to boot. He also has the title of POTUS.
What a time...
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SolemnSauce wrote: »Get money, protect urself and ur family
This is not a game out here. They had a test run and by all accounts it was successful.
It's only going to get worse, so by all means my brother.
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naledgestate wrote: »Shizlansky wrote: »Shizlansky wrote: »Ain't nobody believing in the system.
It about getting ppl in the right place to make the system work for us.
If youre hungry, idle hands ain't gon make dinner.
one day u go realize THE BIRD is the problem and NEEDS TO DIE..
this system wasn't built by us or with us in mind..
in fact think of the matrix the system is the machine and yo black ass is what powers it..
this system needs to fail instead of being propped up for another hundred years and when the next one is built we need to be in position to where we have input into how..
least thats how I see it..
same logic applies to stock.. best time to buy is in a crash.. let this muthafucka crash so we can gain footing..
You seem authentic on this board, so I pay attention to your views on situations and see your side of things
So we should just chill and not do anything and live the status quo?
not saying do nothin..
but whatever u do u have to do it outside and under the radar..
to give u an analogy..
look at Sharks.. great whites when they young they stay near the coastline cause the bigger sharks feed on them..
we are in our infancy stage and trying to battle ? in the deep..
u can have a nation within a nation..
we here.. we aint going nowhere so we need to quit focusing on those who don't like us and focus on us..
build our own infrastructure and quietly grow to where when we do go in deep they won't be so quick to bite cause we can bite back...
? go come in here and say "we did that already with black Wall Street" well.. we need to learn from them and start our own militia.. I mean I can go on and on but I aint trying to type much I got too much ? going on this morning.. but I know its possible cause I do it on a much smaller scale with myself..
I feel bro. I really do.... but a ? got the same amount of stake in this country as any white man. Sorry, you lost me that nation within a nation talk.
Slaves helped built the White House and the whole southern economy was based on the backs of slaves.
I go where ever the ? I want, I take my money where ever the ? i want whether those cacs like it or not.
Black people shed too much blood for this country. This whole ? is our nation.
u misunderstand me..
cause i share the same sentiment..
u talkin to a ? who lives in a armed guard gated community who drives in and out that muthafucka windows down blastin oldschool cube..
nothin pleases me more than seein the look of these Cacs face who have to check in to get in and they see my black ass hat back bumpin "A Bird In Hand" in a Benz they can only dream to afford..
but what i mean by a nation whithin a nation is like a new culture.. a new ideal.. someone said it earlier.. drivin now so dont feel like lookin for it..
but what good is u doin it but ur brother cant??
needs to be a hive mind but we have to do it in a way to not let on to the powers that be cause one thing they hate is competition..
I feel my brother. Keep doing your thing.
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after all that and trump kept talkin he really brought up his winery that he owns smh wow
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blackgod813 wrote: »Shizlansky wrote: »Our main problem is getting organized.
Why the ? we can't do that ? .
too many people involved..
people want the ? to happen overnight as well..
? needs to bubble slow..
it took generations for us to get here.. go take generations for us to get out..
we aint the ones who go see the promise land.. our kids are.. and thats what its about..
people want the ? for themselves now!
and thats not gonna happen..
You forgot many blacks just dont care enough and are content @blackgod813 with the way things are, also plenty of ? and uncle toms who think nothing is wrong at all
Fixed
Apathy is far more common than righteous furry...most white people are apathetic an so are most people...if things dont effect them personally it just doesn't matter..we been at war 16yrs but if you not in the army or live in Afghanistan most likely you don't care...most of us want love an hiphop an McDonald's..how many even knew that statue existed...
Yo homie you been trolling us all this time. ? using big words like apathetic and ? but last year you couldn't even form a sentence correctly. I see you my ?
Thats a big word??? No i dont know proper grammar thats why you people assumed i was dumb an i am quirky from the average ? . @JJ_Evans. Bro dumb...we have nothing in common but are skin color im from poverty thats bone chilling i am black ? kus i am ? to my self money cures all my ills buys love an im not interested in building with ? that's like hearding cats if you wana do it fine i aint stopin u but walk light with me..MONEY IS MY ? AN ILL DO ANYTHING FOR IT THEM CRACKERS CAN MARCH TILL THE SUN BURNS OUT AN MY CHEST DOESNT RESEMBLE A CHILD WHO GIVE A ? I WAS BROKE WHEN THEY STARTED AN BROKE WHEN THEY FINISHED WHATS IM SAYING IS CAN I BORROW DOLLAR??? -
@CapitalB in here spitting knowledge
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Shizlansky wrote: »Shizlansky wrote: »Our main problem is getting organized.
Why the ? we can't do that ? .
IMO cause we not willing to leave certain folks behind.
Also cause some of us would rather fight over not going after the end goal in the same manner. Too many of us are willing to call out and ? on another black person's movement because we don't agree with how they are trying to get there.
If how they moving ain't harming or stepping on other black people's movement then let them get there how they get there and we all just see each other at the ? finish line.
But that's what we doing on here. ? on each other
True but this also ain't real life. -
Undefeatable wrote: »naledgestate wrote: »5th Letter wrote: »5th Letter wrote: »The Lonious Monk wrote: »The Lonious Monk wrote: »
and not to mention..
two of them dead ? were POLICE!!?!?
and ? in here mad!!? smmfh
I don't wish death on nobody but the cops death have not really been talked about. I felt sorry for the white broad getting killed though. I agree with you though on the so back and watch this play out. If some do called woke CAC won't to get ran over and beat up for the cause cool and a bunch of Naxi and KKK ? dying as well. I'm not going to be outraged over it.
I will feel for their families tho
that house ? had no business bein there..
his fault..
and i dont wish death on no one either but im numb to it..
not due to the media either.. iv been numb to death for years now..
but this is the type of ? i said would happen America is bein destroyed from within..
they have nothin left to feed on but themselves..
? aint about that life i dont care how tuff they talk on here orelse they wouldve been bucked.. the monster has to be fed tho.. and now its feedin on itself..
im good wit that..
let this ? destroy itself and we build from that..
its gonna get a whole lot worse.. but it has to in order for it to get better..
I can understand your reasoning for not thinking black people should be out there. But I'm not understanding the whole "house ? " ? . It's not like they were out there bootlicking. They were out there going to war with Nazis. Since when is battling racists house ? ? ?
okay.. sorry for the delay the GoT thread distracted me..
we had some new developments! hahahaha
but yeh..
all house ? wasnt necessarily "boot lickers" but they was still in the house..
sayin that to say a house ? has a certain mentality..
he believes for whatever reason in the system.. which is why u see ? in here upset Trump is destroyin it.. (they house) a house ? believes in protests.. a house ? believes that deep down his master gives a ? about him and can be reasoned with..
Martin Luther King was a house ? ..
Malcolm was a field ? ..
there is a difference..
u dont fight racism by protesting.. why are we even fightin racism!? ita gonna alwaya be here.. we always fightin for muthafuckas ro accept us when we ahould be empowering ourself so a muthafucka will respect us..
but nah.. lets march and beg for ? .. or be mad and scream at ? ..
this aint our fight.. only thing them ? is doin out there is gettin in the way of these white folks killin theyself.. they let us ? each other and go to jail for it they aint gotta fight us..
well look how the tables have turned..
But you seen what happened when he woke up?
what u mean?? them poppin his ass?? lol
Yup
yeh.. by that time the damage was done..
they got his ass up outta here quick fast before he could change the narrative..
then they told ? he'a the one we should be celebrating..
like seriously..
how the ? they go tell us who we should celebrate!?
EVERY black kid ESPECIALLY boy shouls read and know about Malcolm X.. i didnt really know KNOW until like 5yrs ago and thats a ? shame.. my kids will know about the real gangstas in black history.. not the ? who white folks was comfortable wit..
I know this doesnt relate, but people dont really realize how radical MLK was and how he believed that America needed a "radical redistribution of wealth and power. "
They made his legacy mainstream- the nice black guy who told us racism was bad. They have tried to purge a lot of his radical views that made the establishment uncomfortable like his views on capitalism and the church.
Kinda of reminds of the story where Jesus got ? off at the merchants selling stuff in front of the temple and started f**king ? up. You hardily hear about that when religion talks about Jesus. He came to ? ? up and to challenge the establishment but some how that got lost in this purge to make him more palatable like MLK.
I know about this well.. not much about the Church..
but that was another reason he had to get clapped for him communist ties and dialogue..
cause class is the real enemy.. not race..
and he started to target that and poor white folks started to listen.. and then he had to go..
Why do ppl listen to this idiot? The MFer doesn't know what the ? he is saying.
And this bolded here just makes it clearer. The real problem is not class, it is race.
Exhibit A: of the type of so called black person that we need to leave behind no matter which path we choose to get to the finish line.
This the type of person I could NEVER have around me. -
BALTIMORE —
It appears Baltimore's Confederate four monuments are coming down faster than previously thought.
Baltimore's mayor and City Council members differed over how to remove the city's four Confederate monuments, but crews were seen early Wednesday removing statues.
About a dozen city crews and private contractors were seen in Wyman Park, removing the Lee and Jackson Monument. Crews started getting ready around midnight Tuesday. By 3 a.m., a crane hoisted the monument from its pedestal. By 3:45 a.m., the monument was transferred to a flatbed truck -
Angeles1son85 wrote: »after all that and trump kept talkin he really brought up his winery that he owns smh wow
THIS
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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/report-white-house-memo-gop-saying-trump-correct-charlottesvilleReport: WH Sent Memo To GOP Saying Trump Was ‘Correct’ On Charlottesville
The White House is asking Republican members of Congress to follow the President’s lead as he blames “both sides” for the violence that broke out in Charlottesville, Va. during a white supremacist rally over the weekend, according to a memo obtained by The Atlantic.
Just hours after President Donald Trumps gave a provocative press conference — claiming that both the “alt-left” and the “alt-right” are to blame for the deadly violence that broke out in Charlottesville when a self-proclaimed white supremacists allegedly drove his car into a crowd of counter protestors — the White House gave Republicans guidance on how to discuss Charlottesville.
This kind of memo is sent to Republicans on a daily basis, The Atlantic reported.
The memo asked Republicans to use similar rhetoric as the President that “both sides of the violence in Charlottesville acted inappropriately, and bear some responsibility.”
“The President was entirely correct. … Despite the criticism, the President reaffirmed some of our most important founding principles: We are equal in the eyes of our creator, equal under the law, and equal under our Constitution,” the memo said.
The White House claimed Trump has been a voice “for unity and calm” and has called for the “end of violence on all sides so that no more innocent lives would be lost.”
The talking points also suggested that Trump, “with no ambiguity,” condemned the hate groups by name and blamed the media for reacting with “hysteria” to the President’s talking points that counter-protestors “showed up with clubs spoiling for a fight.”
It took the President two full days to condemn the white nationalists and neo-Nazis who gathered for the rally that turned violent Saturday.
“We should not overlook the facts just because the media finds them inconvenient: From cop killing and violence at political rallies, to shooting at Congressmen at a practice baseball game, extremists on the left have engaged in terrible acts of violence,” it said.
The memo also outlined the “swift action” Trump is taking to hold the “hate groups” accountable, including the Department of Justice’s opening of a civil rights investigation into the alleged car attack.
“Leaders and the media in our country should join the President in trying to unite and heal our country rather than incite more division,” it said.
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