2017 NBA Off Season Thread: Draft & Free Agency & Summer League

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  • Beta
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    BlackAX410 wrote: »

    Not the way Isaiah was torching him in the playoffs. Who has he ever shut down to make a claim like that? He says so much to have accomplished so little

    You a ?

    What other PG is better on both ends?
  • Beta
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    BlackAX410 wrote: »
    Beta wrote: »
    BlackAX410 wrote: »

    Not the way Isaiah was torching him in the playoffs. Who has he ever shut down to make a claim like that? He says so much to have accomplished so little

    You a ?

    What other PG is better on both ends?

    U wanna name call because the "best 2 way guard" allowed IT to average 26 &7 including 53 in a game.
    That's facts and CP3 and Mike conley's on ball defense is better then wall. You acting real feminine over my opinion might wanna log off and take a breather lls

    Because your bias is disgusting

    Wall is better offensively than Conley though so what you saying?

    Chris Paul is the only debatable one and he's trending down defensively

    Plus I'm cranky because I'm tired as ?

    If it was really just your opinion you wouldn't have said "he says so much to accomplish so little"

    You a hater B atleast acknowledge it
  • its....JOHN B
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    Why was that even posted? Who cares what John Wall says about John Wall? Plus it couldn't be further from the truth anyway
  • Beta
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    ? #2 comes out the rafters...

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  • Beta
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    blackrain wrote: »
    Beta stop trying to be a part time Wizards fan my ?

    We're not talking about the wizards though... Wizards got ? fans here anyways, One ? is you and other says fire grunfeld every two weeks

    If me and peezy weren't here this man would have no support
  • Peezy_Jenkins
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    ? don't like wall, that's Cool. Y'all let it show without objectivity tho. May b someone better on defense, another guy better on offense, no one can name one player better on both ends tho. Cp3 the only arguable. N y'all gotta take into account the ? y'all named better on defense got burnt thru the season and wasn't "shutting down" consistently either, of course cuz Point guard position is deepest in the league.
  • BlackAX410
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    John wall hasn't lead a team over 50 wins
    John wall hasn't gotten past the 2nd round
    John wall has missed the playoffs more years then he's made it
    John wall got outplayed in multiple games against Isaiah Thomas in the Celtics series.

    You call yourself the best 2 way guard in the league the statements above can't happen. Difference between me and you is I can break down my disdain for a player without it coming off as hate.
    Saying I'm bias and a hater because I point out the flaws in your favorite player is wrong especially when you went on a random "? IT" rant earlier this week.
  • detcatinva
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    IT had really one good game which was game 2. After every other game was meh
  • Peezy_Jenkins
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    BlackAX410 wrote: »
    John wall hasn't lead a team over 50 wins
    John wall hasn't gotten past the 2nd round
    John wall has missed the playoffs more years then he's made it
    John wall got outplayed in multiple games against Isaiah Thomas in the Celtics series.

    You call yourself the best 2 way guard in the league the statements above can't happen. Difference between me and you is I can break down my disdain for a player without it coming off as hate.
    Saying I'm bias and a hater because I point out the flaws in your favorite player is wrong especially when you went on a random "? IT" rant earlier this week.

    Who are the 2 way pg's that are better?
  • Shizlansky
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    BlackAX410 wrote: »
    John wall hasn't lead a team over 50 wins
    John wall hasn't gotten past the 2nd round
    John wall has missed the playoffs more years then he's made it
    John wall got outplayed in multiple games against Isaiah Thomas in the Celtics series.

    You call yourself the best 2 way guard in the league the statements above can't happen. Difference between me and you is I can break down my disdain for a player without it coming off as hate.
    Saying I'm bias and a hater because I point out the flaws in your favorite player is wrong especially when you went on a random "? IT" rant earlier this week.

    Who are the 2 way pg's that are better?

    Westbrook, Curry and CP3
  • Peezy_Jenkins
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    The first 3 statements all described IT until 3 months ago plus he's not even a factor on defense. I like IT but come on using him as a barometer for wall is a waste of time lol
  • Peezy_Jenkins
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    Shizlansky wrote: »
    BlackAX410 wrote: »
    John wall hasn't lead a team over 50 wins
    John wall hasn't gotten past the 2nd round
    John wall has missed the playoffs more years then he's made it
    John wall got outplayed in multiple games against Isaiah Thomas in the Celtics series.

    You call yourself the best 2 way guard in the league the statements above can't happen. Difference between me and you is I can break down my disdain for a player without it coming off as hate.
    Saying I'm bias and a hater because I point out the flaws in your favorite player is wrong especially when you went on a random "? IT" rant earlier this week.

    Who are the 2 way pg's that are better?

    Westbrook, Curry and CP3

    TWO WAY

    WHO BETTER ON BOTH ENDS

  • Peezy_Jenkins
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    Not too many besides those 3 better than wall overall tho at the pg position
  • Shizlansky
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    Shizlansky wrote: »
    BlackAX410 wrote: »
    John wall hasn't lead a team over 50 wins
    John wall hasn't gotten past the 2nd round
    John wall has missed the playoffs more years then he's made it
    John wall got outplayed in multiple games against Isaiah Thomas in the Celtics series.

    You call yourself the best 2 way guard in the league the statements above can't happen. Difference between me and you is I can break down my disdain for a player without it coming off as hate.
    Saying I'm bias and a hater because I point out the flaws in your favorite player is wrong especially when you went on a random "? IT" rant earlier this week.

    Who are the 2 way pg's that are better?

    Westbrook, Curry and CP3

    TWO WAY

    WHO BETTER ON BOTH ENDS

    As a total player with EVERYTHING included I would take Russ, CP3 and Curry
  • Peezy_Jenkins
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    Shizlansky wrote: »
    Shizlansky wrote: »
    BlackAX410 wrote: »
    John wall hasn't lead a team over 50 wins
    John wall hasn't gotten past the 2nd round
    John wall has missed the playoffs more years then he's made it
    John wall got outplayed in multiple games against Isaiah Thomas in the Celtics series.

    You call yourself the best 2 way guard in the league the statements above can't happen. Difference between me and you is I can break down my disdain for a player without it coming off as hate.
    Saying I'm bias and a hater because I point out the flaws in your favorite player is wrong especially when you went on a random "? IT" rant earlier this week.

    Who are the 2 way pg's that are better?

    Westbrook, Curry and CP3

    TWO WAY

    WHO BETTER ON BOTH ENDS

    As a total player with EVERYTHING included I would take Russ, CP3 and Curry

    Cp3 arguable

    Russ just as overrated if not more on defense and if wall can't shoot how can he? But I can live with him I guess

    Curry easily better on offense but defense, as some one who actually acknowledge his off ball as meaning something, ? please. In no world is he considered a 2 way player, matter fact what do curry do better besides shooting than wall. Unless u saying his shooting outweighs everything which I get

    Wall said TWO WAY player not overall everything. It's players better on one end or the other but on both, ehhhh. I don't see the lie

  • Beta
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    ? said curry is better on D than wall

    Get this big nosed hindu outta here

    Crackhead Ax posting irrelevant arbitrary points and team success to further show he's a hater

    Y'all ? is clowns
  • Beta
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    ? can't even say he considers himself the best two way PG w/o ? getting upset...sad

    what you want him to say?

    Colin cowherd ass ?
  • Beta
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    Shizlansky wrote: »
    Beta wrote: »
    ? said curry is better on D than wall

    Get this big nosed hindu outta here

    Crackhead Ax posting irrelevant arbitrary points and team success to further show he's a hater

    Y'all ? is clowns

    Show me where I said he's better on defense with your Carl Winslow hairline having ass ?
    Shizlansky wrote: »
    BlackAX410 wrote: »
    John wall hasn't lead a team over 50 wins
    John wall hasn't gotten past the 2nd round
    John wall has missed the playoffs more years then he's made it
    John wall got outplayed in multiple games against Isaiah Thomas in the Celtics series.

    You call yourself the best 2 way guard in the league the statements above can't happen. Difference between me and you is I can break down my disdain for a player without it coming off as hate.
    Saying I'm bias and a hater because I point out the flaws in your favorite player is wrong especially when you went on a random "? IT" rant earlier this week.

    Who are the 2 way pg's that are better?

    Westbrook, Curry and CP3

    This ? an idiot
  • Shizlansky
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    Who is Wall shutting down at the PG position though.
  • AZTG
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    I get the whole "two way player" thing but end of the day, its about how good you are at your position.

    Lets say John Wall is the best 2 way player pg in the league, im still taking Curry, Westbrook, CP3 to start on my team before John Wall for sure, and Mike Conley and John Wall pretty much tied for me.

    So, with that said, being the best 2 way gaurd is a nice little title but who really cares when you are the 4-7th best point gaurd?

    No diss to Wall btw. Im a fan and being arguably the 4th best pg in the league deserves props.
  • Beta
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    Shizlansky wrote: »
    Who is Wall shutting down at the PG position though.

    Define shutting down.
  • Beta
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    AZTG wrote: »
    I get the whole "two way player" thing but end of the day, its about how good you are at your position.

    Lets say John Wall is the best 2 way player pg in the league, im still taking Curry, Westbrook, CP3 to start on my team before John Wall for sure, and Mike Conley and John Wall pretty much tied for me.

    So, with that said, being the best 2 way gaurd is a nice little title but who really cares when you are the 4-7th best point gaurd?

    No diss to Wall btw. Im a fan and being arguably the 4th best pg in the league deserves props.

    Cool but you agreed to what he said before I did and the bolded ain't even the topic at hand. Dont do an axel and shizlansky

    Them ? need to jump in front of brinks trucks