48÷2(9+3) = ???

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  • fiat_money
    fiat_money Members Posts: 16,654 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    major pain wrote: »
    People. These are different problems

    48/2(9+3) = 2...
    Why have you assumed (9+3) is in the denominator here?
  • whatevathehell
    whatevathehell Members Posts: 4,015 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    the answer is 288..there ive made up my mind it was my orignal and now my final answer....close thread the ? has been answered.
  • MallyG
    MallyG Members Posts: 4,916 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    major pain wrote: »
    People coming up with 288 arent "solving" the Parentheses first.

    In order to solve it you have to distribute the 2 first. So, 2(9+3) = 18+6 = 24

    48/24 = 2



    Thank u!

    Math wasn't my absolute strong suit (only got up to Trig and a dash of Business Cal), but this is pretty basic.
  • major pain
    major pain Members Posts: 10,293 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    fiat_money wrote: »
    Why have you assumed (9+3) is in the denominator here?

    The 2 will factor into whats in the parentheses.
  • ImGettingOld
    ImGettingOld Members Posts: 2,760 ✭✭✭
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    Is excel wrong too?
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    Yes excel is wrong too
  • major pain
    major pain Members Posts: 10,293 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Young-Ice wrote: »
    yes they do

    when there aren't anymore equations to solve within the brackets, then you move on to the next available solving step. In which case, would be Multiplication/division.

    Break this down.

    48/2(9+3)


    1. 2(9+3) = (2*9+2*3) = (18 + 6) = (24) NOW the parentheses go away

    2. 48/(24) or 48/24

    3. 2
  • whatevathehell
    whatevathehell Members Posts: 4,015 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    major pain wrote: »
    You're interpreting it wrong.

    The parentheses dont go away by adding 9+3.

    It doesnt go away until there are no factors outside the parentheses. The 2 being there modifies whatever is in the parentheses. 48/2(12) = 48/24

    no you dont...once the operations in parenthesis are completed then you back to the beginning and start applying the order again which would be division first...

    you are solving the equation as if it was written like this 48/[2(9+3)]..think about it
    ive spoken...close thread.
  • PLASTIC RULES
    PLASTIC RULES Members Posts: 1,535 ✭✭
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    major pain wrote: »
    The 2 will factor into whats in the parentheses.

    No because 2(12) is the same thing as 2*12.
  • ImGettingOld
    ImGettingOld Members Posts: 2,760 ✭✭✭
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    48÷2(9+3)
    2*9=18 2*3=6
    18+6=24
    48/24=2

    That's the long way

    I broke it down so ya'll can see it,its 2
  • major pain
    major pain Members Posts: 10,293 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Is excel wrong too?
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    Because you are separating 48/2 and multiplying it by (9+3) you will come up with 288.

    Again.

    48/2(9+3) is different from 48/2 * (9+3)
  • MC The Rapper
    MC The Rapper Members Posts: 8,140 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    the answer is 2
  • ICame4Pussy
    ICame4Pussy Members Posts: 6,875 ✭✭✭
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    ? doing math in they FREE time? SMH
  • whatevathehell
    whatevathehell Members Posts: 4,015 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    major pain wrote: »
    Because you are separating 48/2 and multiplying it by (9+3) you will come up with 288.

    Again.

    48/2(9+3) is different from 48/2 * (9+3)



    no its not the * is undertood on the problem on the left..stop it now...for your own sake..my last post on the matter.
  • major pain
    major pain Members Posts: 10,293 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    No because 2(12) is the same thing as 2*12.

    When there is a number DIRECTLY outside the parentheses, that number factors in.
  • MallyG
    MallyG Members Posts: 4,916 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    major pain wrote: »
    Break this down.

    48/2(9+3)


    1. 2(9+3) = (2*9+2*3) = (18 + 6) = (24) NOW the parentheses go away

    2. 48/(24) or 48/24

    3. 2


    This nikka's a genious! LoL
  • PLASTIC RULES
    PLASTIC RULES Members Posts: 1,535 ✭✭
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    major pain wrote: »
    When there is a number DIRECTLY outside the parentheses, that number factors in.

    Maybe, my binomials and ? are rusty. This ? is out of my lane. I got 2 at first, then 288. There seems to be 2 different answers depending on how you interpret the equation.
  • ChiKia
    ChiKia Members Posts: 359
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    The answer is 2.....ummmm
  • dalyricalbandit
    dalyricalbandit Members, Moderators Posts: 67,918 Regulator
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  • fiat_money
    fiat_money Members Posts: 16,654 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    major pain wrote: »
    The 2 will factor into whats in the parentheses.
    Why would a 2 factor into the parenthesis alone, when it's 48/2 and not just 2? 48/2 would factor in.

    See the examples in the third pic:
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  • major pain
    major pain Members Posts: 10,293 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Young-Ice wrote: »
    @ the bolded... you are doing the steps wrong. you don't multiply then divide, you do the multiplication/division in whatever order they come in from left to right,

    I'm not multiplying and then dividing. The first step in PEMDAS is Parentheses. You have to solve whats in the parentheses first. Consider 2(x+2) and 2x+2. Those are 2 different problems. You have to get rid of the parentheses to solve the problem, the way that "should" be done is by distribution.

    I'll say this much. I understand why 288 comes up. And the problem is written specifically to confuse or left to interpretation.

    48
    ---- (9+3) = 288
    2


    48
    = 2
    2(9+3)
  • major pain
    major pain Members Posts: 10,293 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    fiat_money wrote: »
    Why would a 2 factor into the parenthesis alone, when it's 48/2 and not just 2? 48/2 would factor in.

    As the problem is written it "should" be assumed that the (9+3) is in the denominator. Anytime I've seen a problem like this if the portion in parentheses is not to be with the denominator it would specifically noted as such. In that case 48/2*(9+3)
  • 1of1
    1of1 Members Posts: 37,468 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Crazy thing is, focus on ? like this is a waste of time in school. Makes you no money unless you're a math teacher. Veil over your eyes solving pointless equations.


    2.............


    Parentheses would only "dissolve" as you ? say if there is a 1 in front of the parentheses. Clearly there is a 2 there.
  • TRILLip Brooks
    TRILLip Brooks Members Posts: 18,150 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    all this for 1 math problem
  • Dakari
    Dakari Members Posts: 9,387 ✭✭✭
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    ITS 288 YOU DUMB ? ! ? !
  • sache
    sache Members Posts: 43
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    The answer is 288. Think about it, you are reading this sentence left-to-right...that is how you solve math problems also! Break down the brackets/parenthesis then you handle division/multiplication starting from the left.
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