48÷2(9+3) = ???

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  • major pain
    major pain Members Posts: 10,293 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    fiat_money wrote: »
    Exactly, and since we know that 48/2 is a fraction it can be distributed as if it were a single term. Even when distributing the simplified 24, we are actually distributing 24/1.

    So it can be said conclusively that there is nothing wrong with distributing fractions, because really, any number can be represented as a fraction.

    That's it for this edition of Math with fiat.

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    If the problem were

    2 / 3(x+4)

    Would you distribute the entire 2/3 or just the 3? Because distributing the 2/3 drastically changes this.
  • riddlerap
    riddlerap Members Posts: 17,132 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    LoLOloOLOL @ some of yall claiming its 2 and being bold enough to really think thats right and the people who got 288 are wrong. its 288. go back to school. re-learn math.
  • #1 pick
    #1 pick Members Posts: 3,926 ✭✭✭✭
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    riddlerap wrote: »
    LoLOloOLOL @ some of yall claiming its 2 and being bold enough to really think thats right and the people who got 288 are wrong. its 288. go back to school. re-learn math.

    The way it's worded and going by rules would make both chances correct.
  • JackAssInTheBox
    JackAssInTheBox Members Posts: 1,230 ✭✭
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  • fiat_money
    fiat_money Members Posts: 16,654 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    #1 pick wrote: »
    Sit down ? , this is one of the both answers are right questions because of the loose base of the rules. 24 also has the fight chance as well.
    I called it a "math troll" for a reason.

    The fraction version is the one with the straightforward solution.

    But you won't understand what I mean by that.

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  • whatevathehell
    whatevathehell Members Posts: 4,015 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    sboogie wrote: »
    its really a matter of interpretation...
    what is the highest level of math you've taken?

    ambiguity in math...really
  • fiat_money
    fiat_money Members Posts: 16,654 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    major pain wrote: »
    If the problem were

    2 / 3(x+4)

    Would you distribute the entire 2/3 or just the 3? Because distributing the 2/3 drastically changes this.
    Since I know 2/3 is a fraction, I'd represent it as:
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    And distribute the 2/3.

    Math with fiat.

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  • bbwthick23
    bbwthick23 Members Posts: 954 ✭✭✭
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    The answer is 2

    48/2(9+3)=
    You first add whats in the parenthesis, which is 9+3. Once you get 12 you still have to get rid of the parenthesis. Since 2 is directly connected to the parenthesis, then you multiply 2 times 12 and get 24. Then division is left so you divide 48 by 24 and end up with 2.
  • whatevathehell
    whatevathehell Members Posts: 4,015 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    lol i believe this is an intentional math troll problem designed to confuse people. The problem isn't set up correctly which is why excel got an error when entered the way it is written in the title.

    naw, excel just doesnt recognize that symbol as an divisor operator..it probaly only recognizes the /. math is the most definite thing on the planet as far as I know..there are no variables, there is only one answer.
  • major pain
    major pain Members Posts: 10,293 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    fiat_money wrote: »
    Since I know 2/3 is a fraction, I'd represent it as:
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    And distribute the 2/3.

    Math with fiat.

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    Well this is what I mean by its left to interpretation.
  • NothingButTheTruth
    NothingButTheTruth Members Posts: 10,850 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Huh? The answer is 288. Anyone saying anything different is a little on the slow side.
  • major pain
    major pain Members Posts: 10,293 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Young-Ice wrote: »
    why do you have to get rid of what's in the brackets?

    Because its two different problems if not. Thats why there is debate around the answer.
  • NothingButTheTruth
    NothingButTheTruth Members Posts: 10,850 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    For the slow people, re-write the question as "48/2 * (9 +3)" and that should clear up any confusion.

    2(9 +3) is the same as 2(12), which is equivalent to 2 * 12. How would you solve 48 / 2 * 12?
  • major pain
    major pain Members Posts: 10,293 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Young-Ice wrote: »
    no it isnt

    if u dont get rid of the brackets it becomes 12, and u can solve. There is no need to get rid of the brackets.

    48÷2*(12) = 24 * (12) = 288

    then you just solve from left to right.

    Distribution is taught to apply before multiplication and division. If you distribute the 2 the parentheses is in the denominator. If you dont its separate. PEMDAS does not clearly define this scenario.
  • whatevathehell
    whatevathehell Members Posts: 4,015 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Which symbol doesn't excel recognize?

    the one not on our keyboards otherwise i would have typed it...the makes sense since it is not a key or function of any keys on a standard keyboard why would it be recognized....fcmq00.gif
  • Bussy_Getta
    Bussy_Getta Members Posts: 37,679 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    ? dont know how to calculate wtf
  • NothingButTheTruth
    NothingButTheTruth Members Posts: 10,850 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    major pain wrote: »
    Distribution is taught to apply before multiplication and division. If you distribute the 2 the parentheses is in the denominator. If you dont its separate. PEMDAS does not clearly define this scenario.

    Yes it does. Multiplication and Division are the same rank, the same way addition and subtraction are the same rank. When they are the same rank, you calculate from left to right.
  • Bussy_Getta
    Bussy_Getta Members Posts: 37,679 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Young-Ice wrote: »
    are u really gunna tell me these aren't brackets?

    ()()()()()()()()()()( ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((())))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

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  • whatevathehell
    whatevathehell Members Posts: 4,015 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    major pain wrote: »
    Distribution is taught to apply before multiplication and division. If you distribute the 2 the parentheses is in the denominator. If you dont its separate. PEMDAS does not clearly define this scenario.

    distribuiton is really not necessary in lower level mathematics....its not something that has to be done whether you do it or not the answer is going to be the same is why pemdas doesnt address it....i.e.
    2(4+8) is the same 2x4 +2x8=24
  • #1 pick
    #1 pick Members Posts: 3,926 ✭✭✭✭
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    fiat_money wrote: »
    I called it a "math troll" for a reason.

    The fraction version is the one with the straightforward solution.

    But you won't understand what I mean by that.

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    Smh, this clown..
  • fiat_money
    fiat_money Members Posts: 16,654 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    #1 pick wrote: »
    Smh, this clown..
    This almost seems to be a response that reflects a heightened emotional state.
  • major pain
    major pain Members Posts: 10,293 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    sboogie wrote: »
    who in here knows what this is?

    lolol.......
  • Niggersauce
    Niggersauce Members Posts: 3,040 ✭✭✭
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    I assume that / denotes a fraction as in the 2(9+3) is in the denominator

    So 48
    2(9+3)

    Reduce and it becomes just 24/12 which is 2
  • JadaRoss
    JadaRoss Members Posts: 6,791 ✭✭✭
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    Quarter2 wrote: »
    I assume that / denotes a fraction as in the 2(9+3) is in the denominator

    So 48
    2(9+3)

    Reduce and it becomes just 24/12 which is 2


    you need a math lesson
  • JadaRoss
    JadaRoss Members Posts: 6,791 ✭✭✭
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