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  • longmeat
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    I CAN'T HOLD BACK ALL THESE HAITIAN ? !
  • isiahil
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    longmeat wrote: »
    I CAN'T HOLD BACK ALL THESE HAITIAN ? !
    First question where the safe at ? ?
    All in yo woman face, ? UP HER MAKEUP ? !

    Ross outdid his self with this mixtape.
  • longmeat
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    isiahil wrote: »
    longmeat wrote: »
    I CAN'T HOLD BACK ALL THESE HAITIAN ? !
    First question where the safe at ? ?
    All in yo woman face, ? UP HER MAKEUP ? !

    Ross outdid his self with this mixtape.

    LOL everytime I hear that verse I can't stop ? laughing. Ross moved into one of my top 5 rappers after that mixtape. I'm copping ? Forgives day 1 without hearing a single.
  • lighthearted25
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    So my major is data storage but I just don't have a clear understanding of what that means. Like what does someone with a BS in information systems/data storage do exactly? The field seems so broad that I don't know what to focus on if that makes sense. I know I don't like programming at all and I know having certain certifications is a good thing but I honestly have no direction at all. Someone help me out here.
  • longmeat
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    So my major is data storage but I just don't have a clear understanding of what that means. Like what does someone with a BS in information systems/data storage do exactly? The field seems so broad that I don't know what to focus on if that makes sense. I know I don't like programming at all and I know having certain certifications is a good thing but I honestly have no direction at all. Someone help me out here.

    Get a job in help desk, work there for about a year, and right about the time you get ready to off yourself because of how miserable your life is, you'll figure out where in IT you want to be.
  • isiahil
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    So my major is data storage but I just don't have a clear understanding of what that means. Like what does someone with a BS in information systems/data storage do exactly? The field seems so broad that I don't know what to focus on if that makes sense. I know I don't like programming at all and I know having certain certifications is a good thing but I honestly have no direction at all. Someone help me out here.

    Not to sound cliche, but this is one of those decisions you have to make yourself. Think about what subject in IT you have some interest in (Virtualization, Storage, Networking, Database Management, VoIP, Security, etc.) and then research the certificates that hold weight in that area and then get them (only if they are worth getting). IT is a broad field, the key is finding something you at least sorta like and then building a career off of it. I found this doing a quick google search on IT storage certifications. I don't know if those certs are worth the paper they are printed on but that should at least give you an idea of what an IT storage specialist does and some of the certs out there for them.

  • isiahil
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    longmeat wrote: »
    Get a job in help desk, work there for about a year, and right about the time you get ready to off yourself because of how miserable your life is, you'll figure out where in IT you want to be.
    It is only funny because it is true. LOL

  • lighthearted25
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    Thanks for the advice. I really just want a stable career where I can grow. If I have to work at a help desk I will lol. And I checked out the link. I've looked up certs before and I have had people give me suggestions on certs but that's fruitless if you don't know what you want to do. As of now all I know is that I hate programming with a passion. I just finished a network operating systems class and I made a B but I wasn't really feeling that either. Like you said, I guess it just comes down to exploring different fields within data storage and finding something I like.
  • valdez21
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    Thanks for the advice. I really just want a stable career where I can grow. If I have to work at a help desk I will lol. And I checked out the link. I've looked up certs before and I have had people give me suggestions on certs but that's fruitless if you don't know what you want to do. As of now all I know is that I hate programming with a passion. I just finished a network operating systems class and I made a B but I wasn't really feeling that either. Like you said, I guess it just comes down to exploring different fields within data storage and finding something I like.

    You sound like me...i couldnt stand programming, that's for the nerds lol. But seriously, in just about any field in IT, you WILL be doing some sort of programming

  • lighthearted25
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    @Valdez

    Lmao... yea that ? is for the nerds, real talk. I wanna learn it just to add to my resume though, but doing it for a living? No sir.
  • longmeat
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    @Valdez

    Lmao... yea that ? is for the nerds, real talk. I wanna learn it just to add to my resume though, but doing it for a living? No sir.

    Learning programming techniques really ain't that difficult (specifically object oriented programming like Java and .Net). It's understanding how to access certain libraries and methods and how to interact with the data you get.

    Regardless of what area of IT you go in, learning about automation techniques (like scripting) will help a lot. I'm not a coder by any capacity, but knowing how to script was one of the best things I've taught myself to do.
  • TANGLUNG
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    TANGLUNG wrote:
    Can some of you guys share some good study habits? It's a lot of info to take in.

    what ive done is for example watch a ccna video on eigrp. then go read about it some more in a book. then practice it..and find any type of labs and replicate it so i understand as much as i can about it. that would be a day or 2 days worth of looking at eigrp. with cisco, the more practice you get the better.

    somebody else chime in..
    isiahil wrote: »
    TANGLUNG wrote: »
    Can some of you guys share some good study habits? It's a lot of info to take in.
    The best method for me is to get a book on the subject and then just read it front to back word for word. I try to go through a chapter every two days. It is time consuming and hard work, but going through the material like that really helps me out. I have to go through all of my material at one time because if I space my studying up over months I tend to get lazy and slack off. I read everyday. That is how I tackled all 5 CCNP Voice exams in like 4 months. It is important to remember this isn't about speed, if I read a chapter and didn't understand something (which happens often. lol) I force myself to read it again until I understand it. Another important part is actually implementing the concepts you are reading about. I am in the process of building a voice lab so that I can actually implement every cisco voice feature I read about. That way I can say I understand how the feature works conceptually and then I know how to implement it. So basically everyday I come home from work turn on the Rick Ross Rich Forever mixtape and read about a cisco voice subject I am not too solid on. I keep reading about it until I truly understand it.


    Thanks to you both for the tips!
  • King Erauno
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    workin on these labs for 8 hours got a ? head hurting..bad
  • valdez21
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    im about to get it in on these labs. Cant decide which switches i wanna buy though. The 3560s hella expensive
  • King Erauno
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    valdez21 wrote: »
    im about to get it in on these labs. Cant decide which switches i wanna buy though. The 3560s hella expensive

    rent some racktime man...$25/session proctorlabs.com
  • lighthearted25
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    @longmeat

    I know programming ain't rocket science but its one of those things where some pick up on it quicker and easier. Same with accounting, it isn't that hard but I struggled to make a decent grade. My brain just don't work that way. Thank ? my Java professor was a hippie and took things slow.
  • longmeat
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    @longmeat

    I know programming ain't rocket science but its one of those things where some pick up on it quicker and easier. Same with accounting, it isn't that hard but I struggled to make a decent grade. My brain just don't work that way. Thank ? my Java professor was a hippie and took things slow.

    When I took Java in school I didn't understand any of that ? either. To be honest, most of the technical classes I took in school I had very ? teachers. And the ones where I had decent teachers, they only had a theoretical knowledge because they're not admins, they're teachers. Honestly if I can give you any advice, it would be to not depend on anything you learn in school to be beneficial to you in the workplace. They take outdated technology and concepts, that pretty much no employer wants.

    If I had depended on what my teacher taught me to take me far, I wouldn't even be 1/10 of where I'm at in my career. If I didn't take the initiative to teach myself server, networking, and security ? , I'd probably still be in help desk.

    When I sat down and taught myself how to script/code, it was extremely easy. I learned vbscript in about a week, and learned powershell in about the same. It's all about knowing the rules of how the language you're using. If you're comfortable behind a command prompt, you can learn how to script.
    $lighthearted = new-object system.allhiphop.ill-community.poster
    if ($lighthearted.postcount -ge 1000) {
                     write-host "You got too many damn posts! Get off the damn computer and start studying"
    }
    else {
                     write-host "You still got too many damn posts, get to studying!"                
    }
    
  • lighthearted25
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    What about those for dummies books. Like c++ for dummies, would those be a good investment as far as teaching myself? And my post count ain't that high for 2 1/2 years lol.
  • traestar
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    What about those for dummies books. Like c++ for dummies, would those be a good investment as far as teaching myself? And my post count ain't that high for 2 1/2 years lol.

    Yes, there's many others that are better for instance O'Reilly books, but the for Dummies series for anything are good references, especially if you are just getting started.
  • lighthearted25
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    Ok thanks. Everytime I go in books a million I consider getting those but never do. I will also check out the other one you mentioned.
  • longmeat
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    Honestly, since you don't want to code, start with scripting. It's a lot easier learning curve IMO. Either powershell, vbscript, or keep it gully and do a batch script. Powershell is the easier IMO, because it's meant for people who typically don't write code, but it has the functionality to do pretty much anything.

    This is the tutorial I used when learning powershell:

    http://www.computerperformance.co.uk/powershell/index.htm

    I started out doing basic things like making files and folders and reading/writing their permissions. In a couple months I was connecting to oracle DB, updating objects in Active Directory, and provisioning accounts across multiple systems.
  • valdez21
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    valdez21 wrote: »
    im about to get it in on these labs. Cant decide which switches i wanna buy though. The 3560s hella expensive

    rent some racktime man...$25/session proctorlabs.com

    Thanks man. I went ahead and bought the switches, to have access to my own lab whenever. I got 2x3750s with EMI since they were cheaper than the 3560s and 2x3550s EMI POE for my lab (when i hit the VOICE track). Going to hook them up to GNS3 for my CCIE lab. Now i gotta get some quad nics and a ups and i'm good. Going try to knock out this SWITCH exam by end of month so a ? grinding.
  • longmeat
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    Man ever since I got this new gig a ? lost all his motivation. I should been finished this IPS exam and be working on my written now. I'm gonna try to put at least an hour of studying tonight.
  • King Erauno
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    valdez21 wrote: »
    valdez21 wrote: »
    im about to get it in on these labs. Cant decide which switches i wanna buy though. The 3560s hella expensive

    rent some racktime man...$25/session proctorlabs.com

    Thanks man. I went ahead and bought the switches, to have access to my own lab whenever. I got 2x3750s with EMI since they were cheaper than the 3560s and 2x3550s EMI POE for my lab (when i hit the VOICE track). Going to hook them up to GNS3 for my CCIE lab. Now i gotta get some quad nics and a ups and i'm good. Going try to knock out this SWITCH exam by end of month so a ? grinding.

    well ? thats the best thing to do is get your own..
  • King Erauno
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    longmeat wrote: »
    Man ever since I got this new gig a ? lost all his motivation. I should been finished this IPS exam and be working on my written now. I'm gonna try to put at least an hour of studying tonight.

    its because you makin all that $$

    yo what are some of the things you taught yourself? i'm looking for good things to supplement my ccnp right now