Trayvon Martin George Zimmerman Discussion Thread...
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well, let me be a little redundant: if the system's ? up, it doesn't change whether or not Zimmerman should be convicted on the merits, it simply means we need to address problems with the system. it doesn't mean we should root for the system to work unfairly because we like the results this time. and frankly, most of the positions on this case are based on some emotional reaction(s) and nothing factual.blackamerica wrote: »You obviously have a overwhelming amount of trust in the system. Really?
...which is the kind of thing that happens when the system is ? over people because of emotions or in response to public opinion.blackamerica wrote: »The same system that's ? us over and gave guilty white folks they freedom.
if he deserves to rot in jail, then i want him to be fairly tried and fairly convicted so there's no ? about how unfair the whole process was and nothing for him to use on appeal to get out based on.blackamerica wrote: »I want Zimmerman to rot in jail. If thats what you call fair so be it.
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so whats new with this case?
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that's funny. I accidentally and randomly stumbled upon some site that was trying to say that Trayvon was a troubled delinquint, and that this fact/idea needs to be fully acknowledged for the trial. They had these pics of him, his pops, and his moms, which I've never seen before:
Thought they were interesting. Regardless, Zimmerman deserves a fair trial without the media bias, but as far as I know, I don't see him getting hit with a hard sentence. He's an idiot, and he instigated the ? unecessarily, but he seems to have acted in self-defense even if it was rash, so how hard can you hit him? -
Alot of respect to black people for acting at the right time.
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What time? We acted when the cops tried to let him off. Just like when Rodney King got beat. We waited to till the cops were acquitted. Patience and action
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? Rodney king doe.
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Well his brother was on Bill Maher speaking intelligently. Don't think he is gonna get numbers. Although I would want a fair trial first and foremost, I don't believe anyone really gets a fair trial in this system. While that is not his fault I would like to see him do heavy numbers which I'm sure won't happen.
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that's funny. I accidentally and randomly stumbled upon some site that was trying to say that Trayvon was a troubled delinquint, and that this fact/idea needs to be fully acknowledged for the trial. They had these pics of him, his pops, and his moms, which I've never seen before:
Thought they were interesting. Regardless, Zimmerman deserves a fair trial without the media bias, but as far as I know, I don't see him getting hit with a hard sentence. He's an idiot, and he instigated the ? unecessarily, but he seems to have acted in self-defense even if it was rash, so how hard can you hit him?
wow @the depths people will go to paint trayvon as a hoodlum. Smh. You find similar pics on the fb pages of many of TEEN boys both white and black....and how are the pics of his parents even relevant to the case. sad...first they lose their son to this fuckery and now people are trying to paint the parents as what?..."ghetto" lol i don't know how they keep sane
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As I stated in the other threads on this topic: I would have taken matters into my own hands if that were my son.
There wouldn't be any protests or speeches that fall on deaf ears, and no pleading to people who don't identify with your loss (especially those who are hell bent on portraying the victim as being worthy/culpable of the fate he suffered, instead of the man who pulled the trigger). -
Damn my ? internet connection is ? up......can't hear the audio now smh
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think is i hear the fair trial ? ....but this young man is being painted as a hoodlum and does that give a reason he should die? yet we talk fair trial.
this young man was guilty when he woke up in the wrong neighborhood. yet we talk fair trial.
as a black man i cant just live anywhere. I have lived in my neighborhood for 7 years and when my neighbors family visits...they look at me lie what the fukk us he doing here.
to get a fair trial some people need to realize they are part of the problem. i hear certain people say that if a white person was shot we wouldn't hear nothing about it. true, because the cops would have acted on it to bring the opposite person to justice immediately. but in this case people had to pressure the cops to do their job...an others are mad for people wanting the police to police.
so to get a fair trial, we have to first stop looking at a teenage boy as a hoodlum for being a teenage boy. who didnt do cray ? as a teen? if we are held accountable for the ? we do as teens then we should all be killed. but its funy how zimmerman wants his school records to not be used and his run ins with the law go under the table...but people bring up some one in a club with a drink.
yea...and whos guilty and who needs the fair trial.
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in the end, though, wanting a fair trial for EVERYONE is not about saying "i really don't think this guy, so we can't have a fair trial in this circumstance," because that concept can be applied to everyone. wanting a fair trial for Zimmerman is not the same thing as approving of every damn thing that's been said in theoretical support of Zimmerman (or hell, Trayvon)think is i hear the fair trial ? ....but this young man is being painted as a hoodlum and does that give a reason he should die? yet we talk fair trial. -
that's funny. I accidentally and randomly stumbled upon some site that was trying to say that Trayvon was a troubled delinquint, and that this fact/idea needs to be fully acknowledged for the trial. They had these pics of him, his pops, and his moms, which I've never seen before:
Thought they were interesting. Regardless, Zimmerman deserves a fair trial without the media bias, but as far as I know, I don't see him getting hit with a hard sentence. He's an idiot, and he instigated the ? unecessarily, but he seems to have acted in self-defense even if it was rash, so how hard can you hit him?
WHAT IN THE ? DO THESE PICTURES GOT TO DO WITH A YOUNG BLACK TEENAGER GETTING KILLED IN COLD BLOOD..... -
NEW GEORGE ZIMMERMAN FLICKS, The muthafucka is under pressure looking all Flabby and Sick....
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waterproof wrote: »that's funny. I accidentally and randomly stumbled upon some site that was trying to say that Trayvon was a troubled delinquint, and that this fact/idea needs to be fully acknowledged for the trial. They had these pics of him, his pops, and his moms, which I've never seen before:
Thought they were interesting. Regardless, Zimmerman deserves a fair trial without the media bias, but as far as I know, I don't see him getting hit with a hard sentence. He's an idiot, and he instigated the ? unecessarily, but he seems to have acted in self-defense even if it was rash, so how hard can you hit him?
WHAT IN THE ? DO THESE PICTURES GOT TO DO WITH A YOUNG BLACK TEENAGER GETTING KILLED IN COLD BLOOD.....
Word, what's wrong with him flashing money? lol.. him throwing up his middle fingers doesn't mean ? either.. -
that's funny. I accidentally and randomly stumbled upon some site that was trying to say that Trayvon was a troubled delinquint, and that this fact/idea needs to be fully acknowledged for the trial. They had these pics of him, his pops, and his moms, which I've never seen before:
Thought they were interesting. Regardless, Zimmerman deserves a fair trial without the media bias, but as far as I know, I don't see him getting hit with a hard sentence. He's an idiot, and he instigated the ? unecessarily, but he seems to have acted in self-defense even if it was rash, so how hard can you hit him?
is my eye's playing tricks on me, did this ? just said Zimmerman acted in self defense???? -
so again.....because my parents went to a club an got ? i should die?
my dad used to drink canadian club whiskey an be toasted at cabarets....? i should be shot on site cause im dangerous as hell.
my mom took professional photos...yep, i should die for that too.
an when you throw in the fact is acted like i was ? 17 when i was 17....man i am living on borrowed time now....i should be executed.
alot of people talk ? on this ? an cuss others out....we should all be in front of a firing squad you let certain people tell it. -
i believe the argument is that Trayvon has been presented as this innocent young child who could not pose a threat to Zimmerman when ... cue dramatic noise ... THE TRUTH IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT OH MY ?DMTxCannabis wrote: »Word, what's wrong with him flashing money? lol.. him throwing up his middle fingers doesn't mean ? either..
it really has nothing to do with whether or not Zimmerman's actions were on the level, so i don't get it. but it's part of the phase where Zimmerman supporters smear Trayvon and Trayvon supporters smear Zimmerman and janklow is just disgusted with EVERYONE
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i believe the argument is that Trayvon has been presented as this innocent young child who could not pose a threat to Zimmerman when ... cue dramatic noise ... THE TRUTH IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT OH MY ?DMTxCannabis wrote: »Word, what's wrong with him flashing money? lol.. him throwing up his middle fingers doesn't mean ? either..
it really has nothing to do with whether or not Zimmerman's actions were on the level, so i don't get it. but it's part of the phase where Zimmerman supporters smear Trayvon and Trayvon supporters smear Zimmerman and janklow is just disgusted with EVERYONE
i believe the argument is that Trayvon has been presented as this innocent young child who could not pose a threat to Zimmerman when ... cue dramatic noise ... THE TRUTH IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT OH MY ?DMTxCannabis wrote: »Word, what's wrong with him flashing money? lol.. him throwing up his middle fingers doesn't mean ? either..
it really has nothing to do with whether or not Zimmerman's actions were on the level, so i don't get it. but it's part of the phase where Zimmerman supporters smear Trayvon and Trayvon supporters smear Zimmerman and janklow is just disgusted with EVERYONE
maybe janklow need to put that weed down.
did this kid pose a threat when he was approached by a strange man? just saying -
i don't think Zimmerman is claiming he shot Trayvon the second he saw him. he's claiming he shot him because Trayvon attacked him. whether or not Zimmerman is racist/Trayvon is a thug should be aside from resolving this case.did this kid pose a threat when he was approached by a strange man? just saying
now, i don't punch or shoot every strange guy that approaches me, but again, i don't think either side of the argument is saying that's all that happened. -
i don't think Zimmerman is claiming he shot Trayvon the second he saw him. he's claiming he shot him because Trayvon attacked him. whether or not Zimmerman is racist/Trayvon is a thug should be aside from resolving this case.did this kid pose a threat when he was approached by a strange man? just saying
now, i don't punch or shoot every strange guy that approaches me, but again, i don't think either side of the argument is saying that's all that happened.
the fact that you going around following people and the moment they turn to defend themselves you claim self defense...you provoked it and cried victim when you knew you had a gun to begin with.
how did trayvon get close enough to get this man on the ground? its not because trayvon folowed him...he followed trayvon close enough to get punched. now while you say you dont attack everyone that approaches you....how would you react as a young child from the hood an a guy is approaching you asking all kindas of questions like what you doing here. in the hood that can be the beggining of a fight or gang attack. who was this man to question him in the first place? -
the defense disputes this scenario, which is the point: you're not entitled to shoot someone because they turn around to defend themselves. but if someone has you on the ground and is attacking you? perhaps.the fact that you going around following people and the moment they turn to defend themselves you claim self defense...you provoked it and cried victim when you knew you had a gun to begin with.
Trayvon might have gotten into a fistfight with him because he thought Zimmerman was a crazy stalker and he (Trayvon) wanted to defend HIMSELF. but i suspect the law doesn't give you the right to punch a man in the face because he's following you around. and honestly, if the argument is "if you're a young kid from the hood, you just start punching anyone who asks you all kinds of questions," while i understand the point, i think you're playing into the hands of guys trying to smear Trayvon's character.
personally, this is why i think the most likely scenario is that they both, at some point in the series of events, made some bad decision(s). but it's better to thrash it out with forensic evidence in court than with a bunch of trash talk on the internet. -
Zimmerman's fat ? ass been eating good with his family, meanwhile Trayvon's family got to remember the memories of him because, Fat ? didn't listen to the 911 operator when she told his ? NOT TO PURSUE HIM and he did it anyway resulting in the death of a 17 year old boy just coming back from going to the store to get something to snack on, not bothering nobody!
George Zimmerman is getting on my nerves with the "I'm The Victim" ? , u killed a innocent kid that was not bothering u or anybody else! -
the defense disputes this scenario, which is the point: you're not entitled to shoot someone because they turn around to defend themselves. but if someone has you on the ground and is attacking you? perhaps.the fact that you going around following people and the moment they turn to defend themselves you claim self defense...you provoked it and cried victim when you knew you had a gun to begin with.
Trayvon might have gotten into a fistfight with him because he thought Zimmerman was a crazy stalker and he (Trayvon) wanted to defend HIMSELF. but i suspect the law doesn't give you the right to punch a man in the face because he's following you around. and honestly, if the argument is "if you're a young kid from the hood, you just start punching anyone who asks you all kinds of questions," while i understand the point, i think you're playing into the hands of guys trying to smear Trayvon's character.
personally, this is why i think the most likely scenario is that they both, at some point in the series of events, made some bad decision(s). but it's better to thrash it out with forensic evidence in court than with a bunch of trash talk on the internet.
so if im being followed, i can turn an shoot if i feel threatened and i dont have to retreat because i felt harm was on the horizon.
but if i turn an hit someone instead of shooting them...then i should be shot because im attacking them -
i don't think the law says "i'm being followed and i was concerned about it" is justification for shooting someone.so if im being followed, i can turn an shoot if i feel threatened and i dont have to retreat because i felt harm was on the horizon.
why are you turning around and hitting them? that's my question.but if i turn an hit someone instead of shooting them...then i should be shot because im attacking them
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