It's crazy how Jay's the only NY rapper that never fell off
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While this might be a troll thread the t/s is missing a huge point. Most rappers from any region have fell off if your looking at just sales (which the t/s is doing). From the south guys like andre 3000 and big boi can't go gold even when they sitll make the same quality music they make. Look at the midwest nelly aint still going gold. Can you name 1 90's west coast legend that even dropped an album in the past 2 years that went gold?
You can say all this stuff about new york this and new york that but every other regions legends are mia or not apprecaited even tho they continue to make dope music. -
Big Jay fan but if you just look at the last three solo albums he dropped, one was great (AG) and two of them was wack (KC, BP3) so he definitely has had his ups and downs
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I don't know if anyone said this, but the short answer is... He keeps himself relevant by attatching himself to what's poppin at the time. His music has taken a step backward(but he's still nice), but if you want to know the secret to jay-z's success, just look around him.
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its funny how ? is talking bout bp3 is wack but i remember when it came out ? was on here saying how it was a decent album...boy i tell you
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If you're from nyc u remember the running joke between hot 97 & wbls introducing the new lauryn hill single "if i ruled the world".. Nas was a running industry joke..
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its funny how ? is talking bout bp3 is wack but i remember when it came out ? was on here saying how it was a decent album...boy i tell you
I dont give a f but people was sayin in here I been sayin its wack from day one son
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kingdom come is better than bp3 which makes it his worst album but d.o.a is my ? .
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Kingdom Come was not wack.
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soulbrother wrote: »
Damn y'all really got homie banned!!!
& as long as the jigga warriors ride for him he'll never fall off!!! -
GhostFace didnt fall off
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Nas makes a grown man album called LIG is a damn near classic.
Jay made a grown man album called Kingdom Come it's damn near wack.
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its funny how ? is talking bout bp3 is wack but i remember when it came out Jayhova Witnesses was on here saying how it was a decent album...boy i tell you
Fixed for accuracy.
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Kingdom Come- 2006: Wack 4/10; 2.5/5
American Gangster- 2007: Great 8.5/10; 4.25/5
Blueprint 3- 2009: Enh 6/10; 3/5
Watch the Throne- 2011: Very Good 8/10; 4/5
some dope features i can remember
Black Republicans- 2006
The Joy- 2010
Maybach Music- 2008
So Appalled- 2010
I Do- 2012
Light Up- 2010
Mr. Carter- 2008
Free Mason- 2010
Watch What You Say To Me- 2007
I Wanna Rock-2010
Upgrade U- 2006
Power (Remix)-2010
Hot Toddy- 2010
Clique-2012
Put On (Remix)- 2009
Monster-2010
idk. i cant see it. i think Jay's just lost a lot of aggression and he's way more visible now. throws off perception. being that he was never super aggressive esp compared to X or 50 & others who were popular during the time period he debuted/blew up. I think he says a lot more & uses less words but at the same time he's lost a little off the fastball & lost a lil intensity.
i dont want "Reasonable Doubt" Jay but i'd be very excited to hear Come & Get Me, People Talkin, Watcher II Jay-Z -
Jay's story is great but awful for hiphop. Who will be able to even come close to doing what he has? I mean rappers drop albums all the time but they'll never be considered as great as Jay. People talk about old rappers but Jay at 45 years old can still sell out arenas today! Hiphop fans are confused! That's why I listen for good music and don't judge based on business moves
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Usmarine aka Captain Save-A-J
Save J. Cole, save Jay. E, save Jay-Z -
I think American gangster is one of his better albums
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Jay's story is great but awful for hiphop. Who will be able to even come close to doing what he has? I mean rappers drop albums all the time but they'll never be considered as great as Jay. People talk about old rappers but Jay at 45 years old can still sell out arenas today! Hiphop fans are confused! That's why I listen for good music and don't judge based on business moves
That's gonna be difficult cuz Jay was blessed by living in the commercial golden age of hip hop and making the best moves possible. Ironically he was in the same class as G Rap, Kane and Rakim, but got held back to the Pac/Big/Nas class, and didn't really get successful til the DMX/Em/Nelly class. Anyways, the industry is in such shambles, that an artist can come out and clearly rap better and make better music than Jay, but will never see his success. We're gonna have to wait another 20 years for that. -
? mad cuz good NY rappers still care about lyrics over club ? music. yall can have all that lean wit it type garbage. I will take lyrics and NY sounding production over that ? anytime.
You mean the old ones. lol
The likes of Nas, Ghost and Rae can still make music cause they dropped classics. Them other underachieving ones, nah. They got old and their music is the same ? . When you refuse to evolve, people just stop listening to you.
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kingdom come was dope simply based on how he clapped Cam n Jimmy
BP3 was dope too. I don't see how ? gonna hate on Jay for showing musical growth. "We was supposed to takeover, I caught her bumping ether" IC ? hate them sum Jay z boy I tell ya -
LOL @ The Blueprint III "showing musical growth" ..
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Turfaholic wrote: »kingdom come was dope simply based on how he clapped Cam n Jimmy
BP3 was dope too. I don't see how ? gonna hate on Jay for showing musical growth. "We was supposed to takeover, I caught her bumping ether" IC ? hate them sum Jay z boy I tell ya
i guess rapping about wanna be forever young with some ugly peckerwood singing chorus is called musical growth. -
Usmarine, wake me up when Jay drops and album tighter than life is good going forward
Lol @ the TS for this thread. Really? How could he have not falling off if a westcoast rapper more known for name dropping has a more consistant catalog than Jay since 05?
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Usmarine, wake me up when Jay drops and album tighter than life is good going forward
Lol @ the TS for this thread. Really? How could he have not falling off if a westcoast rapper more known for name dropping has a more consistant catalog than Jay since 05?
* waits for Tromp to come give this thread a complete earthquake post *
Wake me up when Life is Wood stops playing. You delusional and small time Nas fans seem to think Nas career or existence is relevant to where Jay is now. Nas is damn near a niche dapper now, jay out here opening doors for hiphop.
Nas can make a album like LIG because his fanbase ain't diverse,they're backpacker fans. Jay fanbase is way more diverse, from backpackers, club heads, radio heads, etc. He just doesn't make taps for ? who are stuck in 94 -
LOL I'm watching "VH1 Soul" and Hawaiian Sophie with Jaz and Jay Z is on right now
