Randy Moss: I'm greatest WR ever
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northside7 wrote: »greenwood1921 wrote: »Anybody that thinks this is even arguable don't know ? about football.
Might as well say A.I. is the best shooting guard of all time.
Moss was/is one dimensional, never played with passion, and took plays off (admittedly).
He would barely ? my top 15.
Outside of Rice, T.O., Irvin, who would be in your top 5 ahead of Moss?
Bruh, really? You just start watching in what '02?
? , I'll just go off the head...
Tim Brown, Chris Carter, Art Monk, Steve Largent, Etc, etc.
I know most of y'all don't remember pre-Moss NFL, and y'all probably racked a bunch easy TDs on Madden with moss and saw a bunch of exaggerated "jump ball" highlights on ESPN...
...But trust, dude ain't that nice.
One dimensional.
The same criticism QBs get for their flaws ("can't pass, throwing motion, run too much, no championships, accuracy, weak arm, etc, etc) should also be made on every other position.
Randy Moss is the WR equivalent of a "running QB" that has a gang of running highlights and stats, but is average as a passer.
Randy Moss is elite at running 1 or 2 routes and that's the fade or a deep fly pattern.
Top 5 is reserved for nikkas that are elite all around.
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Athlete rock some cornrows and get a couple highlights on ESPN and u can't tell ? nothin.
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I do believe he is the most gifted receiver ever (speed, jumping, hands,etc). I didn't help that he never had a Montana and Young his whole career aside for the few years with Brady.
Dude would easily be approaching Rices numbers had he been with the QB's Rice had./ -
greenwood1921 wrote: »Anybody that thinks this is even arguable don't know ? about football.
Might as well say A.I. is the best shooting guard of all time.
Moss was/is one dimensional, never played with passion, and took plays off (admittedly).
He would barely ? my top 15.
Your an idiot....
Most touchdown receptions in a season – 23 (2007)
Most touchdown receptions by a rookie in a season – 17 (1998)
Most seasons with 17 or more touchdown receptions – 3 (1998, 2003, 2007)
Most games in a season with at least 2 touchdown receptions – 8 (2007)
Most yards receiving in a Pro Bowl game – 212 (2000)
Most 1,200+ yard receiving seasons to start a career – 6 (1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003)
Fastest player to reach 5,000 career receiving yards – 59 games
Youngest player in NFL history to record 100 receiving touchdowns – (29 years and 235 days)
Youngest player in NFL history to record 120 receiving touchdowns – (30 years, 313 days)
Moss may not be THE GOAT...but he's the closest one to it.
damn all that? yet he still doesnt have 1k receptions
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greenwood1921 wrote: »Anybody that thinks this is even arguable don't know ? about football.
Might as well say A.I. is the best shooting guard of all time.
Moss was/is one dimensional, never played with passion, and took plays off (admittedly).
He would barely ? my top 15.
Your an idiot....
Most touchdown receptions in a season – 23 (2007)
Most touchdown receptions by a rookie in a season – 17 (1998)
Most seasons with 17 or more touchdown receptions – 3 (1998, 2003, 2007)
Most games in a season with at least 2 touchdown receptions – 8 (2007)
Most yards receiving in a Pro Bowl game – 212 (2000)
Most 1,200+ yard receiving seasons to start a career – 6 (1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003)
Fastest player to reach 5,000 career receiving yards – 59 games
Youngest player in NFL history to record 100 receiving touchdowns – (29 years and 235 days)
Youngest player in NFL history to record 120 receiving touchdowns – (30 years, 313 days)
Moss may not be THE GOAT...but he's the closest one to it.
damn all that? yet he still doesnt have 1k receptions
You can't get that many receptions when you only play "when you feel like it" and only run less than half the routes on the route tree. -
sidenote total receptions are over rated YPC/YAC >
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greenwood1921 wrote: »Anybody that thinks this is even arguable don't know ? about football.
Might as well say A.I. is the best shooting guard of all time.
Moss was/is one dimensional, never played with passion, and took plays off (admittedly).
He would barely ? my top 15.
Your an idiot....
Most touchdown receptions in a season – 23 (2007)
Most touchdown receptions by a rookie in a season – 17 (1998)
Most seasons with 17 or more touchdown receptions – 3 (1998, 2003, 2007)
Most games in a season with at least 2 touchdown receptions – 8 (2007)
Most yards receiving in a Pro Bowl game – 212 (2000)
Most 1,200+ yard receiving seasons to start a career – 6 (1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003)
Fastest player to reach 5,000 career receiving yards – 59 games
Youngest player in NFL history to record 100 receiving touchdowns – (29 years and 235 days)
Youngest player in NFL history to record 120 receiving touchdowns – (30 years, 313 days)
Moss may not be THE GOAT...but he's the closest one to it.
damn all that? yet he still doesnt have 1k receptions
Dude never had a 1k season? Not even with the Pats? -
Edit: receptions
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Rice, Sharpe, Irvin, Carter, Moss. In that order.
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greenwood1921 wrote: »Anybody that thinks this is even arguable don't know ? about football.
Might as well say A.I. is the best shooting guard of all time.
Moss was/is one dimensional, never played with passion, and took plays off (admittedly).
He would barely ? my top 15.
Your an idiot....
Most touchdown receptions in a season – 23 (2007)
Most touchdown receptions by a rookie in a season – 17 (1998)
Most seasons with 17 or more touchdown receptions – 3 (1998, 2003, 2007)
Most games in a season with at least 2 touchdown receptions – 8 (2007)
Most yards receiving in a Pro Bowl game – 212 (2000)
Most 1,200+ yard receiving seasons to start a career – 6 (1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003)
Fastest player to reach 5,000 career receiving yards – 59 games
Youngest player in NFL history to record 100 receiving touchdowns – (29 years and 235 days)
Youngest player in NFL history to record 120 receiving touchdowns – (30 years, 313 days)
Moss may not be THE GOAT...but he's the closest one to it.
damn all that? yet he still doesnt have 1k receptions
Dude never had a 1k season? Not even with the Pats?
1k is 1,000 -
Why is T.O not in the league ?
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Rice, Sharpe, Irvin, Carter, Moss. In that order.
sharpe ? shutup.. stop projecting careers and what ifs into HOF'ers -
Yall Sleepin on Tim Brown hes top 5
1,094 Receptions
14,934 receiving yards
19,683 All Purpose yards
105 TD's
9pro bowls
6 All Conference selection -
playmaker88 wrote: »
? Sharpe was a beast. He played when cats was still hitting. He showed me enough in his injury shortened career. Like Gayle Sayers. Maybe youve heard of him. -
greenwood1921 wrote: »northside7 wrote: »greenwood1921 wrote: »Anybody that thinks this is even arguable don't know ? about football.
Might as well say A.I. is the best shooting guard of all time.
Moss was/is one dimensional, never played with passion, and took plays off (admittedly).
He would barely ? my top 15.
Outside of Rice, T.O., Irvin, who would be in your top 5 ahead of Moss?
Bruh, really? You just start watching in what '02?
? , I'll just go off the head...
Tim Brown, Chris Carter, Art Monk, Steve Largent, Etc, etc.
I know most of y'all don't remember pre-Moss NFL, and y'all probably racked a bunch easy TDs on Madden with moss and saw a bunch of exaggerated "jump ball" highlights on ESPN...
...But trust, dude ain't that nice.
One dimensional.
The same criticism QBs get for their flaws ("can't pass, throwing motion, run too much, no championships, accuracy, weak arm, etc, etc) should also be made on every other position.
Randy Moss is the WR equivalent of a "running QB" that has a gang of running highlights and stats, but is average as a passer.
Randy Moss is elite at running 1 or 2 routes and that's the fade or a deep fly pattern.
Top 5 is reserved for nikkas that are elite all around.
Those guys are before my time. You got five years on me and been following the NFL since day one, so you would be more knowledgeable about this.
Moss being elite at only two routes definitely isn't top 5 material but I think he could at least ? a top 10 list.
In my early Madden days it was either running on ? with Vick or the Culpepper to Moss deep route connection lol -
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CottonCitySlim wrote: »just because he was lazy you cant hold that against him, that speaks volumes for his talent level really
WHAT?
HUH?
THE ? YOU TALKING ABOUT?
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detcatinva wrote: »randy moss is the greatest talent at WR of all time but not the greatest. i could care less about him not going over them middle consistently. in his prime when he went deep he scared the hell out of every DB. He top 5 tho.
says someone from detriot who happen to have a ? named calvin johnson jr. smh -
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northside7 wrote: »greenwood1921 wrote: »northside7 wrote: »greenwood1921 wrote: »Anybody that thinks this is even arguable don't know ? about football.
Might as well say A.I. is the best shooting guard of all time.
Moss was/is one dimensional, never played with passion, and took plays off (admittedly).
He would barely ? my top 15.
Outside of Rice, T.O., Irvin, who would be in your top 5 ahead of Moss?
Bruh, really? You just start watching in what '02?
? , I'll just go off the head...
Tim Brown, Chris Carter, Art Monk, Steve Largent, Etc, etc.
I know most of y'all don't remember pre-Moss NFL, and y'all probably racked a bunch easy TDs on Madden with moss and saw a bunch of exaggerated "jump ball" highlights on ESPN...
...But trust, dude ain't that nice.
One dimensional.
The same criticism QBs get for their flaws ("can't pass, throwing motion, run too much, no championships, accuracy, weak arm, etc, etc) should also be made on every other position.
Randy Moss is the WR equivalent of a "running QB" that has a gang of running highlights and stats, but is average as a passer.
Randy Moss is elite at running 1 or 2 routes and that's the fade or a deep fly pattern.
Top 5 is reserved for nikkas that are elite all around.
Those guys are before my time. You got five years on me and been following the NFL since day one, so you would be more knowledgeable about this.
Moss being elite at only two routes definitely isn't top 5 material but I think he could at least ? a top 10 list.
In my early Madden days it was either running on ? with Vick or the Culpepper to Moss deep route connection lol
Exactly. And I haven't been watching football long enough to see all of Chris Carter or Jerry Rice or Art Monk's ENTIRE career, but -- thanks to this being the information age -- there are plenty of videos, articles, stats, facts, and anything you can find on this same computer you're using to post on the CS where you can figure things out.
If we talking "all time" why are ? acting like nothing before 1998 counts?
You don't have to see them live or play with them on a video game to know if they're good or not.
And mind you, I have NO reason to hate on Moss. If I was gon' hate on any all-time Receiver it would be Jerry Rice, 'cause him and the Niners ? on my Falcons twice a year for my entire child-hood, teenage years and damn near into my adulthood until we finally got'em in 1998. lol
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i can not believe in the cheap seats i have to agree with a ? named greenwood. scust.
this ? is not even debatable on any level.
production: Rice played 20 years and his last year has the same stats as moss this season.
2004 age 42 30 rec. 429 yards 25.2 yards per game 3tds.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RiceJe00.htm
moss:
2010 age 33 28 rec. 434yards. 27.1yards per game 3tds.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MossRa00.htm
stats: we all know the regular season stats here are the post season stats.
until they play sunday,
? it, i'll let the goat speak for himself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdoEhpUhFfI
? all that production, talent, athletic, dominating, etc etc etc, rice is and will always be a one dementional wide receiver.
rice
irvin
largent
monk
cris carter (anthony carter wasn't bad either)
t.o.
marvin harrison
all before moss.
after that the top 10 gets merky.
hermen moore
andre reed
andre rison
irving fyrer
and before it's all said and done megatron>moss.
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greenwood1921 wrote: »northside7 wrote: »greenwood1921 wrote: »Anybody that thinks this is even arguable don't know ? about football.
Might as well say A.I. is the best shooting guard of all time.
Moss was/is one dimensional, never played with passion, and took plays off (admittedly).
He would barely ? my top 15.
Outside of Rice, T.O., Irvin, who would be in your top 5 ahead of Moss?
Bruh, really? You just start watching in what '02?
? , I'll just go off the head...
Tim Brown, Chris Carter, Art Monk, Steve Largent, Etc, etc.
I know most of y'all don't remember pre-Moss NFL, and y'all probably racked a bunch easy TDs on Madden with moss and saw a bunch of exaggerated "jump ball" highlights on ESPN...
...But trust, dude ain't that nice.
One dimensional.
The same criticism QBs get for their flaws ("can't pass, throwing motion, run too much, no championships, accuracy, weak arm, etc, etc) should also be made on every other position.
Randy Moss is the WR equivalent of a "running QB" that has a gang of running highlights and stats, but is average as a passer.
Randy Moss is elite at running 1 or 2 routes and that's the fade or a deep fly pattern.
Top 5 is reserved for nikkas that are elite all around.
this is all what people say when they criticize Moss but how quickly they forget......when Moss was playing under Minnesota Denny Greean had him running all routes.....Post patterns...quick screens....crossing routes.....dudes was taking quick slants to the house......every route that was in the book randy ran it under denny green........it was until the guy who replaced denny (his name escapes me for the moment).....that the majority of his catches were down the field.....it was called "The Randy Ratio".......
is Moss the goat?....I wouldnt say so.....and for him to be one dimensional....is it really a bad thing seeing how for 13 years that one trick couldn't stopped?....U can't get the kinda numbers he got through his career by being solely one dimensional...once again GOAT?.....I would say no.....not toppin 15....lol...foh -
TheBossman wrote: »i can not believe in the cheap seats i have to agree with a ? named greenwood. scust.
this ? is not even debatable on any level.
production: Rice played 20 years and his last year has the same stats as moss this season.
2004 age 42 30 rec. 429 yards 25.2 yards per game 3tds.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RiceJe00.htm
moss:
2010 age 33 28 rec. 434yards. 27.1yards per game 3tds.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MossRa00.htm
stats: we all know the regular season stats here are the post season stats.
until they play sunday,
? it, i'll let the goat speak for himself.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdoEhpUhFfI
? all that production, talent, athletic, dominating, etc etc etc, rice is and will always be a one dementional wide receiver.
rice
irvin
largent
monk
cris carter (anthony carter wasn't bad either)
t.o.
marvin harrison
all before moss.
after that the top 10 gets merky.
hermen moore
andre reed
andre rison
irving fyrer
and before it's all said and done megatron>moss.
Herman Moore?...better than Randy...GTFOH.....and I'mma Lions fan
