"I Fear I May Have Integrated My People Into a Burning House" - Martin Luther King Jr.
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Malcolm moved away from a lot of the things he said earlier in his career. At the time of his death he was more inclined to hear argument of integration.
I think Martin always believed his cause but he saw it couldn't be fought with one front.
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Integration was a terrible idea smh
We shoulda went with Black Nationalism and became self sufficient and support ourselves
? ain't ready for that. Too much sacrifice, hard work, and bloodshed. Easier to chill and watch ESPN.
When they finally try to round us up into camps and mass graves, ? style, then maybe we'll learn. -
He shifted to more working with everyone. After he converted he had more of an world view but if you choose to deny that be my guess.
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He shifted to more working with everyone. After he converted he had more of an world view but if you choose to deny that be my guess.
Working with different kinds of people does not mean he stood for integration but After people die we tend to twust their words. Malcolm x wanting to work toward integration is a lie he did not believe it could work
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He shifted to more working with everyone. After he converted he had more of an world view but if you choose to deny that be my guess.
Working with different kinds of people does not mean he stood for integration but After people die we tend to twust their words. Malcolm x wanting to work toward integration is a lie he did not believe it could workhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OdfyNIAlhc
I just said he was more inclined to listen. I also read it in 2 books about him that basically saying the something on Wiki ...
Although he no longer called for the separation of black people from white people, Malcolm X continued to advocate black nationalism, which he defined as self-determination for the African-American community.[228] In the last months of his life, however, Malcolm X began to reconsider his support of black nationalism after meeting northern African revolutionaries who, to all appearances, were white -
Sadly now Black peoples biggest threat are ? , so we have no choice but to look inward.
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i am pretty sure if you took that post seriously, you're doing this whole internet thing wrongThe Lonious Monk wrote: »Yeah the Casinos that somehow didn't stop Native Reservations from being basically 3rd world nations within a nation.
in turn, you're kind of overstating this because of the position you want to believe, especially since he split hairs and used the phrase "more inclined to hear"
Malcolm progressed from what he was when he was first into the NOI; where he would have gone, honestly, how could we know
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i am pretty sure if you took that post seriously, you're doing this whole internet thing wrong
Nah, I knew you weren't serious. That said I responded anyway. Why you ask, because at least one person on here thinks like this:The Lonious Monk wrote: »Yeah the Casinos that somehow didn't stop Native Reservations from being basically 3rd world nations within a nation.
Just who turned those entities into that third world status? -- I guess our nation will be indebted forever and ever? I guess our nation will also be indebted to every new generation of black people who wallow in a legacy they never lived?? it never seems to end. The blame and victim game is a big business & its supporters are powerful.
In other words, there are people on here who will actually argue that the Casinos were a great gift and squared the debt the US owes to the Natives.
On a side note, is that Hey Slick? I thought that dude was dead. -
i am pretty sure if you took that post seriously, you're doing this whole internet thing wrongThe Lonious Monk wrote: »Yeah the Casinos that somehow didn't stop Native Reservations from being basically 3rd world nations within a nation.
in turn, you're kind of overstating this because of the position you want to believe, especially since he split hairs and used the phrase "more inclined to hear"
Malcolm progressed from what he was when he was first into the NOI; where he would have gone, honestly, how could we know
He never progressed toward integration being open to hearing all alternative solutions does not equal acceptance of them. -
The Lonious Monk wrote: »I understand your point
My point was about how long do we as an nation continue to live in that legacy. Just image the millions upon millions of your fellow Americans who didn't have anything to do with those times....how much longer should the guilt trip be laid at the feet of people who were never ever involved in that legacy? Why do so many non-whites hold those on the periphery of this issue responsible? why!? It never ends it just goes on and on and on and on and on.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YN8pmhQwcnY
Watch that when you get a chance. It's not all about blaming every single American for the ? that has happened in the past. The probably is the country is built on principles that allow for some people (the white elite) to push a way of being that continue to disenfranchise people (mostly minorities). The problem is that this refusal to acknowledge what's being done is a problem and makes it difficult for any kind of wholesale progress to be made.
This video is very much on point. "White Privilege" should be a mandatory curriculum in every high school and college across the planet. I especially love how he closes out his lecture with the debt analogy. It's all about accountability. Human beings hate accountability, but it's the first step in true progress. -
This is another powerful video, especially from 12:25-15:00.
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Sadly now Black peoples biggest threat are ? , so we have no choice but to look inward.
How did it get to be that way?
You just posted a video about the Natives/Soiux and the result of their genocide and oppression. They live in poverty, unhealthy conditions and are bangin on each other, just like ? . A far cry from the moral, spiritual, and physical warriors they/we once were.
Yes there have always been rivalries between tribes all around the world, but they weren't each other's biggest threat. -
whew. and that's a fair point.The Lonious Monk wrote: »Nah, I knew you weren't serious. That said I responded anyway. Why you ask, because at least one person on here thinks like this ... In other words, there are people on here who will actually argue that the Casinos were a great gift and squared the debt the US owes to the Natives.
we'll have to look into thatThe Lonious Monk wrote: »On a side note, is that Hey Slick? I thought that dude was dead.
you don't see the difference between his former declarations of NOI doctrine and where he was when he died?He never progressed toward integration being open to hearing all alternative solutions does not equal acceptance of them.
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whew. and that's a fair point.The Lonious Monk wrote: »Nah, I knew you weren't serious. That said I responded anyway. Why you ask, because at least one person on here thinks like this ... In other words, there are people on here who will actually argue that the Casinos were a great gift and squared the debt the US owes to the Natives.
we'll have to look into thatThe Lonious Monk wrote: »On a side note, is that Hey Slick? I thought that dude was dead.
you don't see the difference between his former declarations of NOI doctrine and where he was when he died?He never progressed toward integration being open to hearing all alternative solutions does not equal acceptance of them.
yeah his position changed but don't go too far he did not support integration. I believe he softened on whites being allowed to work with blacks to solve problems. But that is it. Before he did not want to work with whites at all. -
That's one of the biggest things I can remember hearing from older generations about integration is that it hurt the black community......the community is not a family nor unified as it once was....
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But that's on us, not integration. Asians didn't let integration stop them from building self sufficient communities.
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The Lonious Monk wrote: »But that's on us, not integration. Asians didn't let integration stop them from building self sufficient communities.
lol are you white -
Unity should be done out of free will and the respect of one another, not out of force and hatred of the white man.
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BlackGerald wrote: »The Lonious Monk wrote: »But that's on us, not integration. Asians didn't let integration stop them from building self sufficient communities.
lol are you white
No, do I have to be white to acknowledge that other groups have maintained unity after integration? Other prominent blacks have done the same thing. -
i think there's a point where when you're Malcolm and you're saying, "okay, we can work within the system to address the problems blacks face in America," you're basically talking about integration. it's not the same thing as "let's all hold hands and sing together," but heyyeah his position changed but don't go too far he did not support integration. I believe he softened on whites being allowed to work with blacks to solve problems. But that is it. Before he did not want to work with whites at all. -
i think there's a point where when you're Malcolm and you're saying, "okay, we can work within the system to address the problems blacks face in America," you're basically talking about integration. it's not the same thing as "let's all hold hands and sing together," but heyyeah his position changed but don't go too far he did not support integration. I believe he softened on whites being allowed to work with blacks to solve problems. But that is it. Before he did not want to work with whites at all.
no working with the system is not integration , integration is becoming part of the system. -
The Lonious Monk wrote: »But that's on us, not integration. Asians didn't let integration stop them from building self sufficient communities.
Asians have a unifying culture and language that naturally separate them from the other races in america. blacks are weaker and easy to pull apart, with integration African American identity is diluted . what are you and how do you differentiate yourself from the rest of America -
Asians never really integrated they largly still keep to themselves. blacks begged to be part of the American social order and lost them selves in it
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The Lonious Monk wrote: »But that's on us, not integration. Asians didn't let integration stop them from building self sufficient communities.
Asians have a unifying culture and language that naturally separate them from the other races in america. blacks are weaker and easy to pull apart, with integration African American identity is diluted . what are you and how do you differentiate yourself from the rest of America
this is very well said.. -
The Lonious Monk wrote: »But that's on us, not integration. Asians didn't let integration stop them from building self sufficient communities.
Asians have a unifying culture and language that naturally separate them from the other races in america. blacks are weaker and easy to pull apart, with integration African American identity is diluted . what are you and how do you differentiate yourself from the rest of America
Asians have quite a few cultures and many of them don't don't get along with others. One of the main things is they kept there populations highly concentrated within that subculture. They also were here less time and didn't have to integrate as much. I come from one of the last black towns. It was one of the segregated areas where blacks could go to the beach. It didn't go down until ? and other self inflicted ills took over.
http://youtu.be/8tEuaj4h8dw
