Kendrick Lamar(Shots Fired!!!!) "Control"
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with that logic sampling might as well be "biting"
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no ...good sampling takes different elements and rearranges them.. the equivalent would just be taking somebodys beat straight up or like adding one extra high hat or a whistle and ? ... not the same dude...try again
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thats sad... i never ever thought id see the day in hip-hop when ? defend biting...
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This was a great thread, ? just had to ? it up though
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i dont defend biting.
call it what you want but kendrick rearranged the Kurupt line anyway.
if sampling aint biting Kendrick didnt bite and neither did Jay.
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ROZAYTABERNACLE wrote: »
because you are an idiot. they style aint even compatible. that was trick question. if edgar allen poe did that then he wouldnt be considered a legend and master in his field. no serious writer does that. its called PLAGIARISM. only in rap is it call HOMAGE lol. we used to call it BITING but i guess jay z broke that barrier long ago.. u ? accept getting fed all kinds of garbage then get mad at the ? that screams "put that ? down! u eating garbage ? !!" lol.. so when ? pop up with junk food that dont smell like a garbage can you ? swear its the ressurection of sliced bread.
@judahxulu they dont know that hip-hop is a gift from the ancestors and the job what hip-hop was, supposed and will do.
Let me break it down real simple to these cats, about this hip-hop thing that came from African rhythm, drums, dance and oral tradition then from the middle passage that morph into ? Spiritual, Gospel, Blues, Jazz, Soul, Rock N Roll, Reggae and Jamaican Dancehall, Doo-? , Funk, R&B
the music keep morphing and combing ancient artforms of hieroglyphics, dance, native tongue it's was a reason and had a purpose, why in the hell they was ? in the 80's and had senate hearings on hip-hop......think about that and you will find out why they invest BILLIONS of dollars to take it over, and keep the dead, dead, that little spark of awakening in the late 80's was just preview of the power and it's purpose....IT WAS WRITTEN -
waterproof wrote: »ROZAYTABERNACLE wrote: »
because you are an idiot. they style aint even compatible. that was trick question. if edgar allen poe did that then he wouldnt be considered a legend and master in his field. no serious writer does that. its called PLAGIARISM. only in rap is it call HOMAGE lol. we used to call it BITING but i guess jay z broke that barrier long ago.. u ? accept getting fed all kinds of garbage then get mad at the ? that screams "put that ? down! u eating garbage ? !!" lol.. so when ? pop up with junk food that dont smell like a garbage can you ? swear its the ressurection of sliced bread.
@judahxulu they dont know that hip-hop is a gift from the ancestors and the job what hip-hop was, supposed and will do.
Let me break it down real simple to these cats, about this hip-hop thing that came from African rhythm, drums, dance and oral tradition then from the middle passage that morph into ? Spiritual, Gospel, Blues, Jazz, Soul, Rock N Roll, Reggae and Jamaican Dancehall, Doo-? , Funk, R&B
the music keep morphing and combing ancient artforms of hieroglyphics, dance, native tongue it's was a reason and had a purpose, why in the hell they was ? in the 80's and had senate hearings on hip-hop......think about that and you will find out why they invest BILLIONS of dollars to take it over, and keep the dead, dead, that little spark of awakening in the late 80's was just preview of the power and it's purpose....IT WAS WRITTEN
so hip hop is A Kind of Magic now?
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? that aint what the ? he saidItzGravitation wrote: »waterproof wrote: »ROZAYTABERNACLE wrote: »
because you are an idiot. they style aint even compatible. that was trick question. if edgar allen poe did that then he wouldnt be considered a legend and master in his field. no serious writer does that. its called PLAGIARISM. only in rap is it call HOMAGE lol. we used to call it BITING but i guess jay z broke that barrier long ago.. u ? accept getting fed all kinds of garbage then get mad at the ? that screams "put that ? down! u eating garbage ? !!" lol.. so when ? pop up with junk food that dont smell like a garbage can you ? swear its the ressurection of sliced bread.
@judahxulu they dont know that hip-hop is a gift from the ancestors and the job what hip-hop was, supposed and will do.
Let me break it down real simple to these cats, about this hip-hop thing that came from African rhythm, drums, dance and oral tradition then from the middle passage that morph into ? Spiritual, Gospel, Blues, Jazz, Soul, Rock N Roll, Reggae and Jamaican Dancehall, Doo-? , Funk, R&B
the music keep morphing and combing ancient artforms of hieroglyphics, dance, native tongue it's was a reason and had a purpose, why in the hell they was ? in the 80's and had senate hearings on hip-hop......think about that and you will find out why they invest BILLIONS of dollars to take it over, and keep the dead, dead, that little spark of awakening in the late 80's was just preview of the power and it's purpose....IT WAS WRITTEN
so hip hop is A Kind of Magic now?
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LMAO THIS IS AWESOME!!!!
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? that aint what the ? he saidItzGravitation wrote: »waterproof wrote: »ROZAYTABERNACLE wrote: »
because you are an idiot. they style aint even compatible. that was trick question. if edgar allen poe did that then he wouldnt be considered a legend and master in his field. no serious writer does that. its called PLAGIARISM. only in rap is it call HOMAGE lol. we used to call it BITING but i guess jay z broke that barrier long ago.. u ? accept getting fed all kinds of garbage then get mad at the ? that screams "put that ? down! u eating garbage ? !!" lol.. so when ? pop up with junk food that dont smell like a garbage can you ? swear its the ressurection of sliced bread.
@judahxulu they dont know that hip-hop is a gift from the ancestors and the job what hip-hop was, supposed and will do.
Let me break it down real simple to these cats, about this hip-hop thing that came from African rhythm, drums, dance and oral tradition then from the middle passage that morph into ? Spiritual, Gospel, Blues, Jazz, Soul, Rock N Roll, Reggae and Jamaican Dancehall, Doo-? , Funk, R&B
the music keep morphing and combing ancient artforms of hieroglyphics, dance, native tongue it's was a reason and had a purpose, why in the hell they was ? in the 80's and had senate hearings on hip-hop......think about that and you will find out why they invest BILLIONS of dollars to take it over, and keep the dead, dead, that little spark of awakening in the late 80's was just preview of the power and it's purpose....IT WAS WRITTEN
so hip hop is A Kind of Magic now?
he described it like that.
and you need to expand your musical taste. -
waterproof wrote: »ROZAYTABERNACLE wrote: »
because you are an idiot. they style aint even compatible. that was trick question. if edgar allen poe did that then he wouldnt be considered a legend and master in his field. no serious writer does that. its called PLAGIARISM. only in rap is it call HOMAGE lol. we used to call it BITING but i guess jay z broke that barrier long ago.. u ? accept getting fed all kinds of garbage then get mad at the ? that screams "put that ? down! u eating garbage ? !!" lol.. so when ? pop up with junk food that dont smell like a garbage can you ? swear its the ressurection of sliced bread.
@judahxulu they dont know that hip-hop is a gift from the ancestors and the job what hip-hop was, supposed and will do.
Let me break it down real simple to these cats, about this hip-hop thing that came from African rhythm, drums, dance and oral tradition then from the middle passage that morph into ? Spiritual, Gospel, Blues, Jazz, Soul, Rock N Roll, Reggae and Jamaican Dancehall, Doo-? , Funk, R&B
the music keep morphing and combing ancient artforms of hieroglyphics, dance, native tongue it's was a reason and had a purpose, why in the hell they was ? in the 80's and had senate hearings on hip-hop......think about that and you will find out why they invest BILLIONS of dollars to take it over, and keep the dead, dead, that little spark of awakening in the late 80's was just preview of the power and it's purpose....IT WAS WRITTEN
these ? are simple, ahk. thats why im here very blue moon. ? are so spoonfed info they fail to study and see that the rap industry been leaking money for almost 20 years.. they are investing in our destruction and giving ? trinkets to carry it out..? act like they cant do something as simple as compare billboard hits in any particular year and see how the popular music out affects how we act...rap is old enough that you can look back and see patterns. but you know the deal.. labels put ? here on the boards to influence the gullible. ? is one of many gatekeepers they set to keep a bunch of distractions going so we dont use our ? to change our lives as a whole..and not just the flavor of the month the machine chooses to hypnotize ? into idolizing. kendrick was chosen because he has passable skills and he is morally ambiguous enough that the theosophy based concepts him and ab-soul come with will be accepted. all these devils do is keep rearranging the same ? . they have no imagination. thats how you can see their hand in the whole thing. there is no imagination at all in that verse. its attention seeking behavior. building a bigger buzz to increase the influence of their new chosen mouthpiece. i listen very carefully to lyrics. notice how this ? so expertly mixes good and evil? tease a lil with the notion of a conscious rap and then just spit ignorant ? in a different kind of way...kanye pulled the same ? with how he promoted his latest... there is no imagination involved because the themes being peddled require repetition for the desired effect... and again..i keep repeating... what in the ? has come from interscope that was good for hip-hop? like EVER? -
waterproof wrote: »ROZAYTABERNACLE wrote: »
because you are an idiot. they style aint even compatible. that was trick question. if edgar allen poe did that then he wouldnt be considered a legend and master in his field. no serious writer does that. its called PLAGIARISM. only in rap is it call HOMAGE lol. we used to call it BITING but i guess jay z broke that barrier long ago.. u ? accept getting fed all kinds of garbage then get mad at the ? that screams "put that ? down! u eating garbage ? !!" lol.. so when ? pop up with junk food that dont smell like a garbage can you ? swear its the ressurection of sliced bread.
@judahxulu they dont know that hip-hop is a gift from the ancestors and the job what hip-hop was, supposed and will do.
Let me break it down real simple to these cats, about this hip-hop thing that came from African rhythm, drums, dance and oral tradition then from the middle passage that morph into ? Spiritual, Gospel, Blues, Jazz, Soul, Rock N Roll, Reggae and Jamaican Dancehall, Doo-? , Funk, R&B
the music keep morphing and combing ancient artforms of hieroglyphics, dance, native tongue it's was a reason and had a purpose, why in the hell they was ? in the 80's and had senate hearings on hip-hop......think about that and you will find out why they invest BILLIONS of dollars to take it over, and keep the dead, dead, that little spark of awakening in the late 80's was just preview of the power and it's purpose....IT WAS WRITTEN
these ? are simple, ahk. thats why im here very blue moon. ? are so spoonfed info they fail to study and see that the rap industry been leaking money for almost 20 years.. they are investing in our destruction and giving ? trinkets to carry it out..? act like they cant do something as simple as compare billboard hits in any particular year and see how the popular music out affects how we act...rap is old enough that you can look back and see patterns. but you know the deal.. labels put ? here on the boards to influence the gullible. ? is one of many gatekeepers they set to keep a bunch of distractions going so we dont use our ? to change our lives as a whole..and not just the flavor of the month the machine chooses to hypnotize ? into idolizing. kendrick was chosen because he has passable skills and he is morally ambiguous enough that the theosophy based concepts him and ab-soul come with will be accepted. all these devils do is keep rearranging the same ? . they have no imagination. thats how you can see their hand in the whole thing. there is no imagination at all in that verse. its attention seeking behavior. building a bigger buzz to increase the influence of their new chosen mouthpiece. i listen very carefully to lyrics. notice how this ? so expertly mixes good and evil? tease a lil with the notion of a conscious rap and then just spit ignorant ? in a different kind of way...kanye pulled the same ? with how he promoted his latest... there is no imagination involved because the themes being peddled require repetition for the desired effect... and again..i keep repeating... what in the ? has come from interscope that was good for hip-hop? like EVER?
50
Em
Game
Kendrick
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Soo pretty any artist that was actually named on the track isn't going to respond huh? Smh
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ItzGravitation wrote: »waterproof wrote: »ROZAYTABERNACLE wrote: »
because you are an idiot. they style aint even compatible. that was trick question. if edgar allen poe did that then he wouldnt be considered a legend and master in his field. no serious writer does that. its called PLAGIARISM. only in rap is it call HOMAGE lol. we used to call it BITING but i guess jay z broke that barrier long ago.. u ? accept getting fed all kinds of garbage then get mad at the ? that screams "put that ? down! u eating garbage ? !!" lol.. so when ? pop up with junk food that dont smell like a garbage can you ? swear its the ressurection of sliced bread.
@judahxulu they dont know that hip-hop is a gift from the ancestors and the job what hip-hop was, supposed and will do.
Let me break it down real simple to these cats, about this hip-hop thing that came from African rhythm, drums, dance and oral tradition then from the middle passage that morph into ? Spiritual, Gospel, Blues, Jazz, Soul, Rock N Roll, Reggae and Jamaican Dancehall, Doo-? , Funk, R&B
the music keep morphing and combing ancient artforms of hieroglyphics, dance, native tongue it's was a reason and had a purpose, why in the hell they was ? in the 80's and had senate hearings on hip-hop......think about that and you will find out why they invest BILLIONS of dollars to take it over, and keep the dead, dead, that little spark of awakening in the late 80's was just preview of the power and it's purpose....IT WAS WRITTEN
these ? are simple, ahk. thats why im here very blue moon. ? are so spoonfed info they fail to study and see that the rap industry been leaking money for almost 20 years.. they are investing in our destruction and giving ? trinkets to carry it out..? act like they cant do something as simple as compare billboard hits in any particular year and see how the popular music out affects how we act...rap is old enough that you can look back and see patterns. but you know the deal.. labels put ? here on the boards to influence the gullible. ? is one of many gatekeepers they set to keep a bunch of distractions going so we dont use our ? to change our lives as a whole..and not just the flavor of the month the machine chooses to hypnotize ? into idolizing. kendrick was chosen because he has passable skills and he is morally ambiguous enough that the theosophy based concepts him and ab-soul come with will be accepted. all these devils do is keep rearranging the same ? . they have no imagination. thats how you can see their hand in the whole thing. there is no imagination at all in that verse. its attention seeking behavior. building a bigger buzz to increase the influence of their new chosen mouthpiece. i listen very carefully to lyrics. notice how this ? so expertly mixes good and evil? tease a lil with the notion of a conscious rap and then just spit ignorant ? in a different kind of way...kanye pulled the same ? with how he promoted his latest... there is no imagination involved because the themes being peddled require repetition for the desired effect... and again..i keep repeating... what in the ? has come from interscope that was good for hip-hop? like EVER?
50
Em
Game
Kendrick
they were all TERRIBLE you ? ! why has the game gotten WORSE since these ? came out? do you understand the principle of causation? ? ... -
ItzGravitation wrote: »
? that aint what the ? he saidItzGravitation wrote: »waterproof wrote: »ROZAYTABERNACLE wrote: »
because you are an idiot. they style aint even compatible. that was trick question. if edgar allen poe did that then he wouldnt be considered a legend and master in his field. no serious writer does that. its called PLAGIARISM. only in rap is it call HOMAGE lol. we used to call it BITING but i guess jay z broke that barrier long ago.. u ? accept getting fed all kinds of garbage then get mad at the ? that screams "put that ? down! u eating garbage ? !!" lol.. so when ? pop up with junk food that dont smell like a garbage can you ? swear its the ressurection of sliced bread.
@judahxulu they dont know that hip-hop is a gift from the ancestors and the job what hip-hop was, supposed and will do.
Let me break it down real simple to these cats, about this hip-hop thing that came from African rhythm, drums, dance and oral tradition then from the middle passage that morph into ? Spiritual, Gospel, Blues, Jazz, Soul, Rock N Roll, Reggae and Jamaican Dancehall, Doo-? , Funk, R&B
the music keep morphing and combing ancient artforms of hieroglyphics, dance, native tongue it's was a reason and had a purpose, why in the hell they was ? in the 80's and had senate hearings on hip-hop......think about that and you will find out why they invest BILLIONS of dollars to take it over, and keep the dead, dead, that little spark of awakening in the late 80's was just preview of the power and it's purpose....IT WAS WRITTEN
so hip hop is A Kind of Magic now?
he described it like that.
and you need to expand your musical taste.
if that means accepting biters, fake gangsters, a bunch of egocentric ? talking, just plain negativity, ? with underlying demonic themes the na homie...im cool on that. my tastes far exceed yours. i been bumping african psychadelic rock ad a dope ass senagalese hip-hop group all week. rappers have been saying the same ? since the late 80s. ignorant ? has dominated most of the history of the genre in amerikkka. YOU need to expand your musical tastes... what I want to hear a ? brag about selling dope, or his financial status for? my musical taste is ? that speaks to my soul and resonates with something past superficial ? ....
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dumb ? partying to your own destruction..you hardly have to be "conscious" to see that... i mean look at this ? . ? was all up in arms about zimmerman a couple weeks ago and the implications of the case. now ? is using it in punchlines and acting like ? just didnt get shown 10 it aint sweet like that 2) and ? if we scared of you; you will die 3) and aint ? you can do ? . but you ? still want to take flights of fancy? fight music against other blacks? you ? ARE DUMB and the ENTIRE WORLD is laughing at us.... the type of ? you defend is a major reason because thats what they think all black people are like because these rappers are cast as representing black people... ? its billions of tons of radiatio leaking in the ocean daily ...into cali waters. nobodys speaking on it. this ? uses his gift to make a little sneaky ass move to up his financial status.its bogus.. thats why we are jokes and are only alive becuase its more profitable for us to be perpetually dying and not actually dead...
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wheres the emcees with the power to do this???
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what... is that not needed? we can afford to just keep cycling stupid ? around in our heads??? really?
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i wouldnt. hes not ranked like he think he is.. who the ? is he? ? do not debate him in barbershops in the same breath as the legends he listed just because he said they do. thats my whole point. the ? that made songs goty trolled and fed into a very clever manipulation... besides.. the ? he mentioned on the same team.. they all on UMGSoo pretty any artist that was actually named on the track isn't going to respond huh? Smh
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1) I CANT STAND WHAT DRAKE STANDS FOR and his fluffy and frou frou approach to rap...but lets not forget the ? could actually spit b4 he turned young money ? . He's gonna try to pull an Ether...and if he pull if off K.Dot is done. Getting served by Drake is like getting beat up by a ? in jail. Aint no coming back lol
2) Joey Badass gonna murk him too! Watch...
3) You Kendrick-phile hypocrites are hella egregious...my my the double standard! How you ? pole ? Kendrick for that pseudo-aggressive troll rap on the basis of its aggression but then criticize ? responding for being to personal, aggressive or emotional.. ? those three factors (besides the weak ass Game-esque name droppng) is what made the Control verse tight aint it???
4) its not lyricism if you need 64 bars in SOMEBODY ELSE ? song to make your pointless point...thats called rambling. But thats what that ? do and hide it in a phenomenal yet grafted flow.... ? supposed to be bringing hiphop back but violated a key rule of the cypher..and Big Sean is a big ? for even letting that ? make his own damn song within his song lol
1. Drake doesn't have the capability to put Kendrick or anybody else for that matter in the grave. He might ? them lyrically (which he can't do to K. Dot) but ? not ending a single career.
2. Joey Badass not on bruh level and still doesn't have enough weight at this moment to do real damage.
3.Kendrick wasn't getting all emotional talking about ? being ? for sitting on they fam lap as a child and talking about mothers, he kept it straight rap. What you talking about?
4. K. Dot didn't even go all that hard on this verse honestly, so don't think this is the most he's capable of -
1) that would be a huge loss to credibility even if he gets some good lines in but loses the war. its drake man... itd be that uch worse for the industry poster boy for moist behavior to flip and serve a ? battle heat...and if he cant write dont you think one of them ? he hosting battles with wouldnt ghostwrite some ? ?1) I CANT STAND WHAT DRAKE STANDS FOR and his fluffy and frou frou approach to rap...but lets not forget the ? could actually spit b4 he turned young money ? . He's gonna try to pull an Ether...and if he pull if off K.Dot is done. Getting served by Drake is like getting beat up by a ? in jail. Aint no coming back lol
2) Joey Badass gonna murk him too! Watch...
3) You Kendrick-phile hypocrites are hella egregious...my my the double standard! How you ? pole ? Kendrick for that pseudo-aggressive troll rap on the basis of its aggression but then criticize ? responding for being to personal, aggressive or emotional.. ? those three factors (besides the weak ass Game-esque name droppng) is what made the Control verse tight aint it???
4) its not lyricism if you need 64 bars in SOMEBODY ELSE ? song to make your pointless point...thats called rambling. But thats what that ? do and hide it in a phenomenal yet grafted flow.... ? supposed to be bringing hiphop back but violated a key rule of the cypher..and Big Sean is a big ? for even letting that ? make his own damn song within his song lol
1. Drake doesn't have the capability to put Kendrick or anybody else for that matter in the grave. He might ? them lyrically (which he can't do to K. Dot) but ? not ending a single career.
2. Joey Badass not on bruh level and still doesn't have enough weight at this moment to do real damage.
3.Kendrick wasn't getting all emotional talking about ? being ? for sitting on they fam lap as a child and talking about mothers, he kept it straight rap. What you talking about?
4. K. Dot didn't even go all that hard on this verse honestly, so don't think this is the most he's capable of
2) i respectfully disagree. he got lyrics
3) the whole buzz is from emotion (aggresion comes from anger..an EMOTIONAL state)... COUPLED with the name dropping fam... take out those elements and the rest is ? filler
4) NO. thats why im like..really? it was one of his WEAKER verses to me and entirely too ? long... thats just poor artistry.. why collab if youre more interested in your shine than making a good OVERALL SONG? the bigga been on a decline since he got signed.... i was hip to him before most people were..my ear stay to the underground
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when he talks about ? hes not really about you can tell cause 1) he yells and does all that "intensity" ? and 2) he rambles...real talk
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talent and authenticity is why section 80 is the only kendrick ? i ? with tough... getting back to the topic. IMO..he fell off. he dont put his soul in his ? no more. ever since he started ? riding lil wayne and sitting on dres lap the authenticity dropped and the talent waned as well...lupe has a similar dynamic for different reasons but not so much by outside influence but his temprament
? huh? GKMC had more substance than Section 80 did. You couldn't of actually listened to the album saying this ? bruh. You sound like the type to be anti a ? as soon as he blew up just because the fact that he blew up. ? crazy. -
How much pointless text is on this page...?
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talent and authenticity is why section 80 is the only kendrick ? i ? with tough... getting back to the topic. IMO..he fell off. he dont put his soul in his ? no more. ever since he started ? riding lil wayne and sitting on dres lap the authenticity dropped and the talent waned as well...lupe has a similar dynamic for different reasons but not so much by outside influence but his temprament
? huh? GKMC had more substance than Section 80 did. You couldn't of actually listened to the album saying this ? bruh. You sound like the type to be anti a ? as soon as he blew up just because the fact that he blew up. ? crazy.
no i analyze very closely.. his content was scattered then too but he was more authentic to my ear.. his whole character is this double minded dude playing with good and evil in a hostile nevironment, lost generation type ? blah blah blah..i get that. And no Im not..... but I know from the inside out what happens when a ? blows up and he joins a team like Interscope... the ? is owned and that affects the music bruh
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