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themadlionsfan wrote: »infamous114 wrote: »
? stringer
Which betrayal was worst.....
A ) Avon letting Brother Muzone line Stringer up
B ) Stringer snitching on Avon so he had to finish that bid
There is never an excuse for snitching. This question shouldn't have even been asked. Stringer got exactly what he deserved.
IMO Stringer wasn't betrayed. Stringer killed that man nephew on some ? and made countless other moves that should've been cost him his life. Also have to add in the fact that Stringer didn't want to deal with that life anymore but he still wanted the money from that life. You either with it or you not.
Can't play hokey pokey with the streets. -
If only Tommy was as smart as Avon on Power...
Ghost been on his Stringer ? for three seasons now! -
themadlionsfan wrote: »infamous114 wrote: »
? stringer
Which betrayal was worst.....
A ) Avon letting Brother Muzone line Stringer up
B ) Stringer snitching on Avon so he had to finish that bid
There is never an excuse for snitching. This question shouldn't have even been asked. Stringer got exactly what he deserved.
IMO Stringer wasn't betrayed. Stringer killed that man nephew on some ? and made countless other moves that should've been cost him his life. Also have to add in the fact that Stringer didn't want to deal with that life anymore but he still wanted the money from that life. You either with it or you not.
Can't play hokey pokey with the streets.
Killing D was ? at all. They didn't hesitate to ? Lil' Man when he was getting antsy about Gregs getting shot. D'Angelo was showing all kinds of buck towards both Stringer and Avon. And Stringer knew if his last name wasn't Barksdale his ass woulda been in the back of the reptile house w/ Lil' Man.
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Revolver Ocelot wrote: »themadlionsfan wrote: »infamous114 wrote: »
? stringer
Which betrayal was worst.....
A ) Avon letting Brother Muzone line Stringer up
B ) Stringer snitching on Avon so he had to finish that bid
There is never an excuse for snitching. This question shouldn't have even been asked. Stringer got exactly what he deserved.
IMO Stringer wasn't betrayed. Stringer killed that man nephew on some ? and made countless other moves that should've been cost him his life. Also have to add in the fact that Stringer didn't want to deal with that life anymore but he still wanted the money from that life. You either with it or you not.
Can't play hokey pokey with the streets.
Killing D was ? at all. They didn't hesitate to ? Lil' Man when he was getting antsy about Gregs getting shot. D'Angelo was showing all kinds of buck towards both Stringer and Avon. And Stringer knew if his last name wasn't Barksdale his ass woulda been in the back of the reptile house w/ Lil' Man.
That is true but because his last name was Barksdale that wasn't Stringers decision to make. That is why Stringer did that ? in such a shady ass manor.
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Revolver Ocelot wrote: »themadlionsfan wrote: »infamous114 wrote: »
? stringer
Which betrayal was worst.....
A ) Avon letting Brother Muzone line Stringer up
B ) Stringer snitching on Avon so he had to finish that bid
There is never an excuse for snitching. This question shouldn't have even been asked. Stringer got exactly what he deserved.
IMO Stringer wasn't betrayed. Stringer killed that man nephew on some ? and made countless other moves that should've been cost him his life. Also have to add in the fact that Stringer didn't want to deal with that life anymore but he still wanted the money from that life. You either with it or you not.
Can't play hokey pokey with the streets.
Killing D was ? at all. They didn't hesitate to ? Lil' Man when he was getting antsy about Gregs getting shot. D'Angelo was showing all kinds of buck towards both Stringer and Avon. And Stringer knew if his last name wasn't Barksdale his ass woulda been in the back of the reptile house w/ Lil' Man.
That is true but because his last name was Barksdale that wasn't Stringers decision to make. That is why Stringer did that ? in such a shady ass manor.
I hear you on the no snitchin..BUT Stringer knew Avon could finish that bid no problem, he was that ? inside, so it would be easy time...Stringer needed Avon on a timeout so he could clean all their money and get the ? out the streets. It was always about the bigger picture with Stringer...
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Revolver Ocelot wrote: »themadlionsfan wrote: »infamous114 wrote: »
? stringer
Which betrayal was worst.....
A ) Avon letting Brother Muzone line Stringer up
B ) Stringer snitching on Avon so he had to finish that bid
There is never an excuse for snitching. This question shouldn't have even been asked. Stringer got exactly what he deserved.
IMO Stringer wasn't betrayed. Stringer killed that man nephew on some ? and made countless other moves that should've been cost him his life. Also have to add in the fact that Stringer didn't want to deal with that life anymore but he still wanted the money from that life. You either with it or you not.
Can't play hokey pokey with the streets.
Killing D was ? at all. They didn't hesitate to ? Lil' Man when he was getting antsy about Gregs getting shot. D'Angelo was showing all kinds of buck towards both Stringer and Avon. And Stringer knew if his last name wasn't Barksdale his ass woulda been in the back of the reptile house w/ Lil' Man.
That is true but because his last name was Barksdale that wasn't Stringers decision to make. That is why Stringer did that ? in such a shady ass manor.
I hear you on the no snitchin..BUT Stringer knew Avon could finish that bid no problem, he was that ? inside, so it would be easy time...Stringer needed Avon on a timeout so he could clean all their money and get the ? out the streets. It was always about the bigger picture with Stringer...
There is no but to it. There is no reason for a person to snitch none whatsoever.
Stringer should've took HIS money left the game and cleaned his money and did whatever he wanted to do with it. Still been Avon man but gave up his status as the #2 man in the organization.
Avon told that ? on multiple occasions he not leaving the streets. Stringer can't force that man see ? his way just like Avon couldn't make Stringer want to stay in the streets and love the streets the way he did.
Marlo was the same that ? LOVED the streets and the game. -
Vader_D_Roosevelt wrote: »Rawls,was a DL ? got he was,that ? bar but they never expanded on itWill Munny wrote: »Vader_D_Roosevelt wrote: »Rawls,was a DL ? got he was,that ? bar but they never expanded on it
I didn't get that either, I think they did that tho just to show he's a cowardly person.
I forget what episode it's in but theres a bathroom scene and on the wall in marker it says "Rawls is a ? "
It was when bubbles tried to ? himself -
I loved the scene where both Stringer and Avon had their moves in motion together talking like nothing was gonna happen.
Avon ended up in Prison, Stringer ended up dead. Both were great hustlers, but Avon had the edge. Stringer tried to be something he wasn't. -
Revolver Ocelot wrote: »themadlionsfan wrote: »infamous114 wrote: »
? stringer
Which betrayal was worst.....
A ) Avon letting Brother Muzone line Stringer up
B ) Stringer snitching on Avon so he had to finish that bid
There is never an excuse for snitching. This question shouldn't have even been asked. Stringer got exactly what he deserved.
IMO Stringer wasn't betrayed. Stringer killed that man nephew on some ? and made countless other moves that should've been cost him his life. Also have to add in the fact that Stringer didn't want to deal with that life anymore but he still wanted the money from that life. You either with it or you not.
Can't play hokey pokey with the streets.
Killing D was ? at all. They didn't hesitate to ? Lil' Man when he was getting antsy about Gregs getting shot. D'Angelo was showing all kinds of buck towards both Stringer and Avon. And Stringer knew if his last name wasn't Barksdale his ass woulda been in the back of the reptile house w/ Lil' Man.
That is true but because his last name was Barksdale that wasn't Stringers decision to make. That is why Stringer did that ? in such a shady ass manor.
I hear you on the no snitchin..BUT Stringer knew Avon could finish that bid no problem, he was that ? inside, so it would be easy time...Stringer needed Avon on a timeout so he could clean all their money and get the ? out the streets. It was always about the bigger picture with Stringer...
There is no but to it. There is no reason for a person to snitch none whatsoever.
Stringer should've took HIS money left the game and cleaned his money and did whatever he wanted to do with it. Still been Avon man but gave up his status as the #2 man in the organization.
Avon told that ? on multiple occasions he not leaving the streets. Stringer can't force that man see ? his way just like Avon couldn't make Stringer want to stay in the streets and love the streets the way he did.
Marlo was the same that ? LOVED the streets and the game.
Again, Avon was still alive. How is this even a discussion? Of course getting your homeboy sent to jail for a limited amount of time is a lesser evil than having your homeboy killed. -
How LOL was it when Marlo meets Avon in prison tho?
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The Lonious Monk wrote: »Revolver Ocelot wrote: »themadlionsfan wrote: »infamous114 wrote: »
? stringer
Which betrayal was worst.....
A ) Avon letting Brother Muzone line Stringer up
B ) Stringer snitching on Avon so he had to finish that bid
There is never an excuse for snitching. This question shouldn't have even been asked. Stringer got exactly what he deserved.
IMO Stringer wasn't betrayed. Stringer killed that man nephew on some ? and made countless other moves that should've been cost him his life. Also have to add in the fact that Stringer didn't want to deal with that life anymore but he still wanted the money from that life. You either with it or you not.
Can't play hokey pokey with the streets.
Killing D was ? at all. They didn't hesitate to ? Lil' Man when he was getting antsy about Gregs getting shot. D'Angelo was showing all kinds of buck towards both Stringer and Avon. And Stringer knew if his last name wasn't Barksdale his ass woulda been in the back of the reptile house w/ Lil' Man.
That is true but because his last name was Barksdale that wasn't Stringers decision to make. That is why Stringer did that ? in such a shady ass manor.
I hear you on the no snitchin..BUT Stringer knew Avon could finish that bid no problem, he was that ? inside, so it would be easy time...Stringer needed Avon on a timeout so he could clean all their money and get the ? out the streets. It was always about the bigger picture with Stringer...
There is no but to it. There is no reason for a person to snitch none whatsoever.
Stringer should've took HIS money left the game and cleaned his money and did whatever he wanted to do with it. Still been Avon man but gave up his status as the #2 man in the organization.
Avon told that ? on multiple occasions he not leaving the streets. Stringer can't force that man see ? his way just like Avon couldn't make Stringer want to stay in the streets and love the streets the way he did.
Marlo was the same that ? LOVED the streets and the game.
Again, Avon was still alive. How is this even a discussion? Of course getting your homeboy sent to jail for a limited amount of time is a lesser evil than having your homeboy killed.
It's the bigger picture though: Stringer wanted to talk bigger picture when it came to cleaning up the money and getting out the streets, but he didn't want to see the bigger picture behind what would happen if all his ? came to light. Hell, I can't recall but the ? could've not snitched on himself about D'Angelo and Avon would've probably went at Mouzone on his behalf. Or did that setup occur before he even knew about the D'Angelo ? ? To add even more insult to injury, he snitched on his best friend of damn near 30 years when he had the option of abandoning the crew like Cutty.
Stringer tortured Brandon, killed D'Angelo, cut deals Avon did not instruct him to while using Avon's name to do so, and THEN snitched to get him jail time.
Stringer is that dude that yells Stop Snitching and the minute he get cornered, he telling on everybody. Worst. Kind. of. Person.
End of the day: Stringer had Stringer killed. Not Avon.
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It's the bigger picture though: Stringer wanted to talk bigger picture when it came to cleaning up the money and getting out the streets, but he didn't want to see the bigger picture behind what would happen if all his ? came to light. Hell, I can't recall but the ? could've not snitched on himself about D'Angelo and Avon would've probably went at Mouzone on his behalf. Or did that setup occur before he even knew about the D'Angelo ? ? To add even more insult to injury, he snitched on his best friend of damn near 30 years when he had the option of abandoning the crew like Cutty.
Stringer tortured Brandon, killed D'Angelo, cut deals Avon did not instruct him to while using Avon's name to do so, and THEN snitched to get him jail time.
Stringer is that dude that yells Stop Snitching and the minute he get cornered, he telling on everybody. Worst. Kind. of. Person.
End of the day: Stringer had Stringer killed. Not Avon.
If we're talking about the ? person, then yeah, I'd agree, it's Stringer. But the question asked which betrayal was worse. Stringer made a decision to have Avon sent back to prison. Avon made a decision to let Stringer be killed. -
Forgot ? D'angelo's girl while he was locked up
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The Lonious Monk wrote: »
It's the bigger picture though: Stringer wanted to talk bigger picture when it came to cleaning up the money and getting out the streets, but he didn't want to see the bigger picture behind what would happen if all his ? came to light. Hell, I can't recall but the ? could've not snitched on himself about D'Angelo and Avon would've probably went at Mouzone on his behalf. Or did that setup occur before he even knew about the D'Angelo ? ? To add even more insult to injury, he snitched on his best friend of damn near 30 years when he had the option of abandoning the crew like Cutty.
Stringer tortured Brandon, killed D'Angelo, cut deals Avon did not instruct him to while using Avon's name to do so, and THEN snitched to get him jail time.
Stringer is that dude that yells Stop Snitching and the minute he get cornered, he telling on everybody. Worst. Kind. of. Person.
End of the day: Stringer had Stringer killed. Not Avon.
If we're talking about the ? person, then yeah, I'd agree, it's Stringer. But the question asked which betrayal was worse. Stringer made a decision to have Avon sent back to prison. Avon made a decision to let Stringer be killed.
we've gone over this a bunch of times,Avon didn't have a choice,Mouzone was gonna cut off his NY supply not just
for dope but for muscle too,Avon clearly says how can we fix it and asks "how much",he was willing to pay for
String's ? up but Mouzone didn't want paper he wanted get back for being set-up. Annnnd at the time Avon was
at war with Marlo,so he would have had to deal with Marlo and Mouzone's people. -
The Lonious Monk wrote: »Revolver Ocelot wrote: »themadlionsfan wrote: »infamous114 wrote: »
? stringer
Which betrayal was worst.....
A ) Avon letting Brother Muzone line Stringer up
B ) Stringer snitching on Avon so he had to finish that bid
There is never an excuse for snitching. This question shouldn't have even been asked. Stringer got exactly what he deserved.
IMO Stringer wasn't betrayed. Stringer killed that man nephew on some ? and made countless other moves that should've been cost him his life. Also have to add in the fact that Stringer didn't want to deal with that life anymore but he still wanted the money from that life. You either with it or you not.
Can't play hokey pokey with the streets.
Killing D was ? at all. They didn't hesitate to ? Lil' Man when he was getting antsy about Gregs getting shot. D'Angelo was showing all kinds of buck towards both Stringer and Avon. And Stringer knew if his last name wasn't Barksdale his ass woulda been in the back of the reptile house w/ Lil' Man.
That is true but because his last name was Barksdale that wasn't Stringers decision to make. That is why Stringer did that ? in such a shady ass manor.
I hear you on the no snitchin..BUT Stringer knew Avon could finish that bid no problem, he was that ? inside, so it would be easy time...Stringer needed Avon on a timeout so he could clean all their money and get the ? out the streets. It was always about the bigger picture with Stringer...
There is no but to it. There is no reason for a person to snitch none whatsoever.
Stringer should've took HIS money left the game and cleaned his money and did whatever he wanted to do with it. Still been Avon man but gave up his status as the #2 man in the organization.
Avon told that ? on multiple occasions he not leaving the streets. Stringer can't force that man see ? his way just like Avon couldn't make Stringer want to stay in the streets and love the streets the way he did.
Marlo was the same that ? LOVED the streets and the game.
Again, Avon was still alive. How is this even a discussion? Of course getting your homeboy sent to jail for a limited amount of time is a lesser evil than having your homeboy killed.
Its a discussion because people like you are answering this question from a 9-5 John Q citizen point of view.
Avon and Stringer are street ? so they deal with ? from that point of view. From a street point of view snitching on your man or anybody period is the worst ? thing you can do. End of story.
A person who truly goes and lives by street codes knows that if you and your man are not seeing eye to eye. You either go your separate ways, work the ? out or start beefing and trying to ? one another. Whats never an option is snitching.
That line of thinking you on is just another reason the streets is so ? up the way they are now. Too many ? have actually accepted that there are reasons and justifications for snitching where there isn't. -
The Lonious Monk wrote: »
It's the bigger picture though: Stringer wanted to talk bigger picture when it came to cleaning up the money and getting out the streets, but he didn't want to see the bigger picture behind what would happen if all his ? came to light. Hell, I can't recall but the ? could've not snitched on himself about D'Angelo and Avon would've probably went at Mouzone on his behalf. Or did that setup occur before he even knew about the D'Angelo ? ? To add even more insult to injury, he snitched on his best friend of damn near 30 years when he had the option of abandoning the crew like Cutty.
Stringer tortured Brandon, killed D'Angelo, cut deals Avon did not instruct him to while using Avon's name to do so, and THEN snitched to get him jail time.
Stringer is that dude that yells Stop Snitching and the minute he get cornered, he telling on everybody. Worst. Kind. of. Person.
End of the day: Stringer had Stringer killed. Not Avon.
If we're talking about the ? person, then yeah, I'd agree, it's Stringer. But the question asked which betrayal was worse. Stringer made a decision to have Avon sent back to prison. Avon made a decision to let Stringer be killed.
Avon didn't betray Stringer and thats what you not getting. -
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People actually find this type of ? funny?
I seen that video with T.I. on dude show and just thought WTF is this ? this dude is on.
Dude seems to get good guests though -
Marlo was an outstanding drug dealer and leader of his crew.
? all the other ? yall ? is talking about.
Marlo was a scared ass fukk ? .
only people that look up to him is people who want to be lead by a fukk ? .
Omar woulda got that nigg eventually -
themadlionsfan wrote: »infamous114 wrote: »
? stringer
Which betrayal was worst.....
A ) Avon letting Brother Muzone line Stringer up
B ) Stringer snitching on Avon so he had to finish that bid
stringer was worse...he didn't have to do that.
Avon was put in a position of my loyalty to a ? who killed family or ending the world he knows an the connects he had..
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2stepz_ahead wrote: »
This ? makes no sense.
You must've been watching a different version of the wire then everyone else.
Funny how easy Omar got his brains knocked out though. Marlo still alive doing him.
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Will Munny wrote: »I loved the scene where both Stringer and Avon had their moves in motion together talking like nothing was gonna happen.
Avon ended up in Prison, Stringer ended up dead. Both were great hustlers, but Avon had the edge. Stringer tried to be something he wasn't.
stringers arrogance cost him.
he knew Avon never asked about his whereabouts. so when he did, he knew something was up but was too caught up in his own way.the greed ? him...he shoulda just postpone the meeting and sit outside to watch the setup -
we've gone over this a bunch of times,Avon didn't have a choice,Mouzone was gonna cut off his NY supply not just
for dope but for muscle too,Avon clearly says how can we fix it and asks "how much",he was willing to pay for
String's ? up but Mouzone didn't want paper he wanted get back for being set-up. Annnnd at the time Avon was
at war with Marlo,so he would have had to deal with Marlo and Mouzone's people.
All you're doing is providing a justification. I'm sure Avon had a reason for betraying Stringer, that doesn't mean it wasn't a bad betrayal. Your girl might ? another dude. She's got reasons (e.g., he has more money, better sex, etc...) that might have made it seem like a worthwhile move for her to make. That doesn't mean you're going to feel any less betrayed when it happens. Again, Stringer was the worse person/friend, but Avon's betrayal was worse because it had the more dire consequences.
Its a discussion because people like you are answering this question from a 9-5 John Q citizen point of view.
Avon and Stringer are street ? so they deal with ? from that point of view. From a street point of view snitching on your man or anybody period is the worst ? thing you can do. End of story.
A person who truly goes and lives by street codes knows that if you and your man are not seeing eye to eye. You either go your separate ways, work the ? out or start beefing and trying to ? one another. Whats never an option is snitching.
That line of thinking you on is just another reason the streets is so ? up the way they are now. Too many ? have actually accepted that there are reasons and justifications for snitching where there isn't.
Oh my bad King Gangsta, don't let me question your street authority. FOH lol
"Real Street ? " snitch every day B. There has never been a period in criminal history in the world where criminals weren't telling on each other to improve their own interests. Half the mob bosses, gangsters, street ? , etc... that people out there idolize snitched at some point. So stop it with that ? . Avon didn't go up to Stringer and tell him they were enemies and that it was on. He kicked it with him one last night and then set him up to be killed. The streets are ? because ? are stupid. The fact that you would come on here and try to act like there is any line of reasoning where snitching to the police is somehow worse than setting your man up to be killed proves it. Again, both are ? up, but only one allows your man to come back from it. Avon was doing just fine in prison even at the end of the series. We saw that. What was String looking like by the end of the series?
But he was the worse of the two huh? Ok. -
Stringer always thought he was smarter than everybody else, thats why I wasn't even mad when Clay Davis snaked String out of his money. He didn't want Avon to go to war with Marlo but he wanted to ? a political figure (Clay Davis) and bring all types of heat to they organization.
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The Lonious Monk wrote: »
we've gone over this a bunch of times,Avon didn't have a choice,Mouzone was gonna cut off his NY supply not just
for dope but for muscle too,Avon clearly says how can we fix it and asks "how much",he was willing to pay for
String's ? up but Mouzone didn't want paper he wanted get back for being set-up. Annnnd at the time Avon was
at war with Marlo,so he would have had to deal with Marlo and Mouzone's people.
All you're doing is providing a justification. I'm sure Avon had a reason for betraying Stringer, that doesn't mean it wasn't a bad betrayal. Your girl might ? another dude. She's got reasons (e.g., he has more money, better sex, etc...) that might have made it seem like a worthwhile move for her to make. That doesn't mean you're going to feel any less betrayed when it happens. Again, Stringer was the worse person/friend, but Avon's betrayal was worse because it had the more dire consequences.
Its a discussion because people like you are answering this question from a 9-5 John Q citizen point of view.
Avon and Stringer are street ? so they deal with ? from that point of view. From a street point of view snitching on your man or anybody period is the worst ? thing you can do. End of story.
A person who truly goes and lives by street codes knows that if you and your man are not seeing eye to eye. You either go your separate ways, work the ? out or start beefing and trying to ? one another. Whats never an option is snitching.
That line of thinking you on is just another reason the streets is so ? up the way they are now. Too many ? have actually accepted that there are reasons and justifications for snitching where there isn't.
Oh my bad King Gangsta, don't let me question your street authority. FOH lol
"Real Street ? " snitch every day B. There has never been a period in criminal history in the world where criminals weren't telling on each other to improve their own interests. Half the mob bosses, gangsters, street ? , etc... that people out there idolize snitched at some point. So stop it with that ? . Avon didn't go up to Stringer and tell him they were enemies and that it was on. He kicked it with him one last night and then set him up to be killed. The streets are ? because ? are stupid. The fact that you would come on here and try to act like there is any line of reasoning where snitching to the police is somehow worse than setting your man up to be killed proves it. Again, both are ? up, but only one allows your man to come back from it. Avon was doing just fine in prison even at the end of the series. We saw that. What was String looking like by the end of the series?
But he was the worse of the two huh? Ok.
Pull your skirt down sweeheart.
The fact that you think a snitch is a "REAL" anything says everything I need to know.
Didn't even bother to waste my time reading the rest of the ? you posted after the bold.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaWa4ScfQXc