DJ Quik Blames Tupac's Death & Death Row's Fall On Travon Lane

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  • RickyRich
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    On March 9, a day before his sentencing hearing, Tupac left his room at the Montrose Hotel, where he lived while in town. He steered his rented Lexus LS 300 coupe to a Shell station on Sunset, parked, entered the convenience store, and searched for magazines and snack foods. Five Crips appeared, one of them asking, Where you from?

    All over, Tupac replied.
    "No you ain't," said the Crip. "You from Baltimore. But you don't never claim it. I know 'cause my homeboy used to take care of you."
    Tupac said, Your homeboy lied. No one took care of me in Baltimore.
    Just then, white teenagers stepped up to ask for an autograph. Tupac turned to sign one. Infuriated, the Crip yelled, "I'm first to jack this ? !"
    Sensing danger, Tupac quickly reached over to a display case filled with scissors and grabbed a pair. But it was too late. The wily Crip slammed a ham-like fist into Tupac's eye, then left the store with his four friends. Holding the pair of scissors like a dagger, Tupac burst onto Sunset Boulevard and saw the Crip enter a car and take off.
  • dwade206
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    Pac didn't get shot over a chain and anyone who believes that is an idiot and surprised Quick is being so gullable. The only people that know for sure who killed Pac, are Pac, Suge, and the guy Suge hired.
  • RickyRich
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    i was reading this article about the whole tupac /suge & DR/Bloods vs Diddy & biggie/Crips/Jimmyhenchmen & his ? . I think Badboy & Jimmy Henchmen is behind tupac killing in vegas .
  • RickyRich
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    that beef was more deeper then rap
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    Lets take a look at some events.


    In 1994, Tupac is in NY (Above The Rim) & fell in with a crowd. In that crowd, there's Jimmy Rosemond (Henchman), Jacques Agnant (Haitian Jack), Walter Johnson (King Tut), & Freddie Moore (Nickels, a hustler from Queens). Who's em?
    -King Tut: he was just free from jail (shooting a cop) & one of his friends (Henchman) was already reconverted in the rap game.
    -Henchman: he was already heavy in the NY streets, had served time at Rikers where he met the REAL 50cent.
    -Haitian Jack: anotha violent dude from the streets who humiliated & stole many rap figures (like LL Cool J, Jay Z...) & down with Henchman & Tut.

    ---> They part of Black Mafia (gang affiliated with crips), which is now known to have brought funds to launch BadBoy label of the str8 outta private school Puff Daddy.

    So, Pac is filming Above The Rim, Puff is putting BadBoy, with a circle of big names (who trying to reconverted in rap game = aka made ? money from it) in the NY streets, while on the west, Suge is already big.

    Pac hanging around with some of the big names of NY underworld, they learned him the street mentality & gangsta NY attitude because they strictly hustlers who R making it str8 from the streets.

    They already got BIG who is also a friend of Tupac. But they wanted 'Pac, who was more of a big act in rap. They felt like Pac did owe em this, to be part of the label. Like they learned him all from the NY streets & he refused 2 times their offer.
    Here comes the fall out between Haitian Jack & Pac: the ? case. Tut & Haitian Jack R the one who ? the girl while Pac is supposed to have play the hook up for his boys.

    We just gonna leave this as that for a moment, just keep this in mind: Pac is surrounding by some of NY's most dangerous & BIG did warn him.

    On the West:
    Puff said himself on record that he was inspired by Suge & that lead him to create BadBoy label. Cuz Suge is the one ? letting everybody know that there's money to get in rap business; he ran thangs in & out label & streets. For a fact, by the time BadBoy was getting start, Suge was already multimilli & a head of Piru Bloods.
    In 1995, both Suge & Puff attended the J.D.'s birthday party in Atlanta. Puff was accompanied with a bunch of homies (some...crips), while Suge with his homies (notably Jai Hassan Jamaal Robles (Jake The Violator), active Piru blood & his bodyguard).
    A confrontation with Suge & Jake standing off against Wolf & 4 crips did occurr. Who's Wolf? nobody more than Puff's own cousin.
    Gang signs were thrown, & a fight was about to pop up when the deputy of Fulton County separed the 2 groups. What hapened then, is that Suge & Jake were about to leave the party (already sat in cars), when they saw Wolf & his crew coming their way & decidd to let rumble. Jake is killed by Wolf (A BLOOD KILLED BY A CRIP).
    Here comes the 'You Had Something To Do With This' adressed to Puf by Suge.

    Puff denied involvement & reported DR putting out a contract on his life, cuz word had spread around in both gangs. That's when Suge began visiting Tupac in Danemorra state prison. Tupac who had problems with the ones behind Puff&BadBoy.
    And here's the beginning of the end.

    'My ennemy is ur ennemy'. When Pac was hanging with them NY dudes, they learn him one thing: U don't go war without ur money.
    And Tupac did find his money in DR; not only this, but his liberty... & he now want revenge as more than Suge want it too.
    Let tha War begin.
    crips vs bloods in the shadow, during backstages, & Tupac & Big doing it on Wax.

    In sept95, Mark Anthony Bell was brutalized by DR Suge & some bloods.
    An unknown man working on behalf of Suge Knight attempted to persuade close friend of Puffy’s who was a local New York record promoter working independently to turn informant and give up Puffy’s home address and address of his mother’s in promise of a recording contract and money. Suge Knight wanted to hunt down and ? Sean Puffy Combs and his entire family it would seem according to L.A.P.D. crime reports.
    As Bell reports, he was contacted in September following the murder of Jake Robles by an unnamed voice asking for him to give up the home addresses for Puffy and his mother. He was asked to write the details down on paper and drop it outside his front door and that’s all he had to do. In exchange he would receive a record deal. Bell refused to participate.
    Three months later in Los Angeles, Bell was over on business when his frind Roderick Nixon was commissioned to photograph the Death Row Christmas party in the Chateau Le Blanc mansion on Astral Drive in the Hollywood Hills. Nixon organised an invitation for Bell to the evening event. They arrived at the party at 22.30 whereas Suge and entourage didn’t arrive till around 02.00. When he did arrive he noticed Bell near the dance floor. Suge approached him and asked why he didn’t cooperate with his requests. After insisting his ignorance of such details, he was ushered into an upstairs V.I.P. room by six men, two of were recording legends, Tupac Shakur and Dr. Dre. The room was filled with MTV reporters and a photographer being entertained. They were asked to leave by Suge’s brother-in-law, Norris Anderson who positioned himself outside the door as a lookout.
    Inside, Suge pulled out a chair into the middle of the room for Bell and asked him to sit while seven men surrounded him. Suge demanded an explanation of his non-cooperation and quizzed him on knowledge of Puffy Combs. As Tupac whispered constantly in Suge’s ear, a Piru member started beating Bell with occasional blows dedicating each hit to Jake Robles vocally who eventually told him he was going to ? him. At which point Suge went to the bathroom and filled a champagne flute with ? and instisted Bell drink up. Bell escaped from the room and darted for the balcony overlooking the lobby entrance. He was caught hanging from the guardrail with an audience watching in awe. The group tried pulling him back up with the exception of Tupac who was pounding his grasped hands. When secured onto the floor they swooped onto him beating down on him with Suge ordering, “Body blows only!” He was choked until he almost fainted. Bell played dead while they stripped him of his gold Rolex watch, wallet and jewellery worth an estimated $20,000.

    'Badboy moves in silence'
    'we got millions of thugs on salary'
    'didn't I tell you not to **** with me?'
    Puff's adlibs on songs (millions of thugs on salary = crips & black mafia family gangsters)
    'Thou shalt not **** with raw C-poppa'
    'My Boys in the marine blue'
    'As U rewind Dis. Badboy's behind this'
    Biggie lyrics ('marine blue' is not for the cops, but crips/'C-Poppa', what do u think the 'C' stand for?/'badboy's behind this', behind Quad stud.shooting)
    '[puff] see, I told yall muh****ers
    [big] yo yo.. that stupid ? man
    [puff] i told yall to stop!
    [big] he ****ed up, yo..
    [puff] i pray for you to stop
    [big] yo, yo yo yo, yo.. yo.. yo..
    Yo, yo yo yo, yo..
    [puff] but no, you didnt stop
    [big] yo.. yo..
    [puff] and now, we wont stop'
    (what do u think he's talking about, that was now a street thang)
  • RickyRich
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    'See the ****ed up thing is that I love you..
    Yanahmsayin?
    Its just in my nature to love you..
    I cant hate you.. cause its not in my nature to hate you..
    You know, I dont know..
    Maybe.. Im a different type of individual..
    But.. you have me on the line..
    And theres a thin line between love and hate
    And ? forbid I cross that line..
    Cause yall not gonna give a ****
    Im tellin you right, mother****in, now!!
    The ? , yall done started, is never gonna stop!!!
    We are never gonna stop!!!
    And we not talkin bout.. no other rappers..
    We talkin bout you mother****er
    You know, who Im talkin to..
    We comin for you..
    The ? gon feel so good..
    Im gon make you love me baby'
  • RickyRich
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    Now Pac wasn't a fool & knew that BIG didn't got somethang to do with all this, but he just choose to play the game (his true ennemies started) & tactics war (makaveli & all that ? ) to get at em, & destroy all they were using to keep a low profile. He knew, he had some bad ass motha****a's after him...and he knew he was saying and doing some ? to ? them off. With all the gang war's behind the scenes, he had a good idea this would end with a tragedy.

    'Ahh, Suge what I tell you ? ,
    when I come out of jail what was I gonna do
    I was gonna start diggin' into these ? chest, right...Grab your bulletproof vest ?
    cause its gonna be a long one
    Now me and Quik gonna show you ? what it's like on this side
    The real side'
    (he's hyping the feud, 'the real side')
    'To all you ***** made ? , I'm comin for you
    Against all odds, I don't care who the **** you is, ?
    You touch me I'm at you
    I know you mother****ers think that I forgot
    Hell no I ain't forgot ?
    I just remember what you told me
    You said don't go to war unless I got my money behind me
    Aight, I got my money right here, now I want war'
    (whothe**** do y'all think he was talking to?)
    'who shot me? But u punks didn't finish, now y'all about to feel the wrath of a menace'
    '**** ur ***** & the click U claim'
    (that's where its interesting & to anotha level, Tupac was using confusion with his lyrics even though his true enemies were exactly knowing what he was talking about = 'the click' both junior mafia for BIG/ & the crips for Henchman & Puff)
    'M.O.B.'
    same as above, (MOB for money over *****es for entertainment, but truly Member Of Blood for all the street guys & gangs)
    'about the W sign'
    > not only westside, but a method used by gangs to show their affiliation, & I believe he meant it for War, since he was constantly doing it.
    'And if you don't like this rhyme
    then bring your big bad ass to California, cause we ain't hard to find
    Why them ? actin like they can't find us
    like like they can't see us and
    like we don't be at the same spots they be at'
    (the events both DR & BB attended, & so bloods & crips)
    'Here we come, gunshots too Tutt, now you stuck
    **** the rap game, ? this M-O-B
    So believe me we enemies, I go against all odds'
    'I heard he was light skinned, stocky with a Haitian accent
    Jewelery, fast cars and he's known for flashing (What's his name???)
    Listen while I take you back (? SAY HIS NAME!) and lace this rap
    A real live tale about a snitch named Haitian Jack'
    'promised a payback, Jimmy Henchman, in due time
    I know you ***** ? is listenin, The World Is Mine
    Set me up, wet me up, ? stuck me up
    Heard the guns bust but you tricks never shut me up
    Touch one of mine on everything I own
    I'll destroy everything you touch, play the game ?
    All out warfare, eye for eye'
    'Puffy gettin robbed like a *****, to hide the fact
    he did some ? he shouldn't have did, so we ridin for that'

  • RickyRich
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    Jimmy Henchman, Haitian Jack, King Tut, the Crips...were all deep in Puff's pockets. Big and Puff were actually puppets who got taken into a dangerous path by the people around them.

    Jimmy Henchman said that during the L.A. House of Blues D'angelo & Groove Theory Show, he confronted Tupac... with a bunch of crips, he precised. ('The Whole Death Row Clique Was Up In There & I Remember Going To Him... & I Said, Dude, U Gotta Stop Telling Ppl ? ...')
    I think that's in "Queens Reigns Supreme' book that Henchman stated that met pac either at the mtv music awards or in vegas in '96, and that he warned him to cut the reckless talking or else. He even said that suge approached pac, asking what was going on, and that pac out fo fear didn't want suge to mess with henchman. If you read that passage carefully, you get the impression that henchmen is more or less admitting to killing pac, without clearly saying i did it.

    In April of 1996, str8 after Bad Boy’s Southside Crips and Death Row’s Mob Piru’s clashed at the Soul Train awards, Suge Knight announced his new venture of starting an east coast division of Death Row Records in Manhattan headed by Big Daddy Kane and Wu-Tang Clan. DR was going to knock Black Mafia family & Badboy on their own territory.

  • RickyRich
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    Last, here the one thang that settled the end:
    Hatian Jack said on record that Puff was giving out 10k cash for Deathrow Medallions. This is also supported by many insider's.
    At same time:
    Suge had begun to stamp his authority on Sin City, Las Vegas and established himself in the city by opening up a club called 662. (spells out M-O-B on a keypad) He purchased a home in Monte Rosa Avenue in the Paradise Valley Township. An area exclusive to Las Vegas’ most notable citizens, across the road was Wayne Newton’s Shenandoah Ranch and two doors down was Mike Tyson’s home. The sprawling 1.33acre property bordered the 5,215 red brick house set with a backyard backing onto a gold course. Suge had first viewed the estate on Martin Scorsese’s film, Casino where it was shown as the house of Robert DeNiro’s character, Frank Rosenthal. Suge bought the place and promptly redecorated it unseen in the ? before. Painting the bottom of his swimming pool garishly blood-red with the Death Row symbol in the centre, the house was following suit of his Tarzana office, with red carpet and furniture. As well as his Rolls Royce Cornish he drives around town in. Suge embedded himself in the gangster lifestyle of Las Vegas.
    Suge had tried for several years now to have an association with many of the country’s top crime families. Already Death Row lawyer, David Kenner had strong ties with the Genovese Family. Suge continued to collect contacts to infamous crime families of America. Son of ‘Tony the Ant’ Spilotro, John represented Suge as his Las Vegas attorney. Spilotro was a character from the film, Casino, the real life account about Chicago’s Outfit. Suge also retained the services of lawyer, Oscar Goodman the ‘Mouthpiece for the Mob’ who represented most of the important Mafioso charged in Las Vegas together with former U.S. Attorney David Chesoff. When Suge wanted to open 662 off The Strip he brought onside the two most powerful legal employees of Death Row. David Kenner and DR’s new business manager, Steve Cantrock who was connected with the ‘Las Vegas Businessman’ Robert Amira who years earlier had been indicted with Joseph Colombo Jr. and Alphonse ‘The Whale’ Merolla in a scam to defraud the Dunes Hotel with airline tickets. In suspicious format, the case against Amira had been dismissed. Suge successfully took possession of the club. The venue was formerly known as Botany’s but had become a Death Row clubhouse, housing packed crowds from ? Californian gangbangers to prominent black American celebrities all witnessing the recording stars of Death Row performing at Tyson after-parties and industry events. Las Vegas would experience some of the most rowdy disturbances and brawls the Sin City has ever seen.

    Now Pac wasn't a fool & knew that BIG didn't got somethang to do with all this, but he just choose to play the game (his true ennemies started) & tactics war (makaveli & all that ? ) to get at em, & destroy all they were using to keep a low profile. He knew, he had some bad ass motha****a's after him...and he knew he was saying and doing some ? to ? them off. With all the gang war's behind the scenes, he had a good idea this would end with a tragedy.

    'Ahh, Suge what I tell you ? ,
    when I come out of jail what was I gonna do
    I was gonna start diggin' into these ? chest, right...Grab your bulletproof vest ?
    cause its gonna be a long one
    Now me and Quik gonna show you ? what it's like on this side
    The real side'
    (he's hyping the feud, 'the real side')
    'To all you ***** made ? , I'm comin for you
    Against all odds, I don't care who the **** you is, ?
    You touch me I'm at you
    I know you mother****ers think that I forgot
    Hell no I ain't forgot ?
    I just remember what you told me
    You said don't go to war unless I got my money behind me
    Aight, I got my money right here, now I want war'
    (whothe**** do y'all think he was talking to?)
    'who shot me? But u punks didn't finish, now y'all about to feel the wrath of a menace'
    '**** ur ***** & the click U claim'
    (that's where its interesting & to anotha level, Tupac was using confusion with his lyrics even though his true enemies were exactly knowing what he was talking about = 'the click' both junior mafia for BIG/ & the crips for Henchman & Puff)
    'M.O.B.'
    same as above, (MOB for money over *****es for entertainment, but truly Member Of Blood for all the street guys & gangs)
    'about the W sign'
    > not only westside, but a method used by gangs to show their affiliation, & I believe he meant it for War, since he was constantly doing it.
    'And if you don't like this rhyme
    then bring your big bad ass to California, cause we ain't hard to find
    Why them ? actin like they can't find us
    like like they can't see us and
    like we don't be at the same spots they be at'


    (the events both DR & BB attended, & so bloods & crips)
    'Here we come, gunshots too Tutt, now you stuck
    **** the rap game, ? this M-O-B
    So believe me we enemies, I go against all odds'
    'I heard he was light skinned, stocky with a Haitian accent
    Jewelery, fast cars and he's known for flashing (What's his name???)
    Listen while I take you back (? SAY HIS NAME!) and lace this rap
    A real live tale about a snitch named Haitian Jack'
    'promised a payback, Jimmy Henchman, in due time
    I know you ***** ? is listenin, The World Is Mine
    Set me up, wet me up, ? stuck me up
    Heard the guns bust but you tricks never shut me up
    Touch one of mine on everything I own
    I'll destroy everything you touch, play the game ?
    All out warfare, eye for eye'
    'Puffy gettin robbed like a *****, to hide the fact
    he did some ? he shouldn't have did, so we ridin for that'

  • RickyRich
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    Jimmy Henchman, Haitian Jack, King Tut, the Crips...were all deep in Puff's pockets. Big and Puff were actually puppets who got taken into a dangerous path by the people around them.

    Jimmy Henchman said that during the L.A. House of Blues D'angelo & Groove Theory Show, he confronted Tupac... with a bunch of crips, he precised. ('The Whole Death Row Clique Was Up In There & I Remember Going To Him... & I Said, Dude, U Gotta Stop Telling Ppl ? ...')
    I think that's in "Queens Reigns Supreme' book that Henchman stated that met pac either at the mtv music awards or in vegas in '96, and that he warned him to cut the reckless talking or else. He even said that suge approached pac, asking what was going on, and that pac out fo fear didn't want suge to mess with henchman. If you read that passage carefully, you get the impression that henchmen is more or less admitting to killing pac, without clearly saying i did it.

    In April of 1996, str8 after Bad Boy’s Southside Crips and Death Row’s Mob Piru’s clashed at the Soul Train awards, Suge Knight announced his new venture of starting an east coast division of Death Row Records in Manhattan headed by Big Daddy Kane and Wu-Tang Clan. DR was going to knock Black Mafia family & Badboy on their own territory.

    Last, here the one thang that settled the end:
    Hatian Jack said on record that Puff was giving out 10k cash for Deathrow Medallions. This is also supported by many insider's.
    At same time:
    Suge had begun to stamp his authority on Sin City, Las Vegas and established himself in the city by opening up a club called 662. (spells out M-O-B on a keypad) He purchased a home in Monte Rosa Avenue in the Paradise Valley Township. An area exclusive to Las Vegas’ most notable citizens, across the road was Wayne Newton’s Shenandoah Ranch and two doors down was Mike Tyson’s home. The sprawling 1.33acre property bordered the 5,215 red brick house set with a backyard backing onto a gold course. Suge had first viewed the estate on Martin Scorsese’s film, Casino where it was shown as the house of Robert DeNiro’s character, Frank Rosenthal. Suge bought the place and promptly redecorated it unseen in the ? before. Painting the bottom of his swimming pool garishly blood-red with the Death Row symbol in the centre, the house was following suit of his Tarzana office, with red carpet and furniture. As well as his Rolls Royce Cornish he drives around town in. Suge embedded himself in the gangster lifestyle of Las Vegas.
    Suge had tried for several years now to have an association with many of the country’s top crime families. Already Death Row lawyer, David Kenner had strong ties with the Genovese Family. Suge continued to collect contacts to infamous crime families of America. Son of ‘Tony the Ant’ Spilotro, John represented Suge as his Las Vegas attorney. Spilotro was a character from the film, Casino, the real life account about Chicago’s Outfit. Suge also retained the services of lawyer, Oscar Goodman the ‘Mouthpiece for the Mob’ who represented most of the important Mafioso charged in Las Vegas together with former U.S. Attorney David Chesoff. When Suge wanted to open 662 off The Strip he brought onside the two most powerful legal employees of Death Row. David Kenner and DR’s new business manager, Steve Cantrock who was connected with the ‘Las Vegas Businessman’ Robert Amira who years earlier had been indicted with Joseph Colombo Jr. and Alphonse ‘The Whale’ Merolla in a scam to defraud the Dunes Hotel with airline tickets. In suspicious format, the case against Amira had been dismissed. Suge successfully took possession of the club. The venue was formerly known as Botany’s but had become a Death Row clubhouse, housing packed crowds from ? Californian gangbangers to prominent black American celebrities all witnessing the recording stars of Death Row performing at Tyson after-parties and industry events. Las Vegas would experience some of the most rowdy disturbances and brawls the Sin City has ever seen.


    Baby Lane & Southside Crips did snatch a DR chain to get the 10ks. They entangled Trevon Lane (Tray) & Suge MOB homies outside a Compton store.
    Well Anderson was part of the Crips that Badboy affiliated with, and he did it for the 10 g's. Pac wasn't stomping out a random nobody in Vegas...he was going after a branch of Bad Boy.
    Now on the fact that Tupac was from a gang. He never was. But if he wasn't drived-by, who knows? Cuz I strongly believe that the fact that he ran on Baby Lane was nothing more to kind of show his loyalty to the MOb Pirus, his new homies, & to show his disrespect towards Henchman & crips affiliates. Remember, he'll destroy everything they represented, everything they were doing.

    After Pac passed away, ? got very intense...bodies started to drop at a record breaking rate in the streets of LA:
    By late September on the streets of California in the wake of Tupac Shakur’s murder eruption of gang war breaks out between the notorious Blood and Crip factions. Police informants report Suge Knight had delivered a load of AK-47 assault rifles, ammunition and bullet proof vests to the Nickerson Gardens housing project, home to some of the most dangerous Blood Piru sets in the country. The worst gang-related fatalities were recorded since the temporary gang truce in 1992 across Los Angeles.
  • dwade206
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    ...yeah ? all that.
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    Nick Broomfield's "Biggie and Tupac" documentary and Frank Alexander's "Tupac Assasination" will point you in the right direction.
  • OhPee
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    Pac had a big mouth is pretty much the bottom line.
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    dwade206 wrote: »
    Pac didn't get shot over a chain and anyone who believes that is an idiot and surprised Quick is being so gullable. The only people that know for sure who killed Pac, are Pac, Suge, and the guy Suge hired.

    You are perpetuating that ? that you have been fed by the media in the demonization of Suge. A lot of ? that he had nothing to do with gets attributed to him. Suge did a lot of ? up ? and yes he had a role in Pacs death but not that way. His Role was letting Pac act wildly around him instead of protecting him as the asset he was instead having him stomp out people with him. Pac next to Suge thought he was unstoppable and some Crips in a Lac had show him otherwise. ? the Documentries by people that never knew, or kind of knew, or knew in a business capacity all those kats have a bigger agenda. Pacs friends and Family most who have issue with Suge and his Crew Over various issues do not have issue with thinking he setup his death hell they know the war that popped off over this ? . They may be mad and blame him for getting him involved which lead to his death but they know his peoples rode to war over it. Pac tried to be a down ass homie and jumped into a beef he should have steered clear of and let the soldiers/entourage handle..
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    On March 9, a day before his sentencing hearing, Tupac left his room at the Montrose Hotel, where he lived while in town. He steered his rented Lexus LS 300 coupe to a Shell station on Sunset, parked, entered the convenience store, and searched for magazines and snack foods. Five Crips appeared, one of them asking, Where you from?

    All over, Tupac replied.
    "No you ain't," said the Crip. "You from Baltimore. But you don't never claim it. I know 'cause my homeboy used to take care of you."
    Tupac said, Your homeboy lied. No one took care of me in Baltimore.
    Just then, white teenagers stepped up to ask for an autograph. Tupac turned to sign one. Infuriated, the Crip yelled, "I'm first to jack this ? !"
    Sensing danger, Tupac quickly reached over to a display case filled with scissors and grabbed a pair. But it was too late. The wily Crip slammed a ham-like fist into Tupac's eye, then left the store with his four friends. Holding the pair of scissors like a dagger, Tupac burst onto Sunset Boulevard and saw the Crip enter a car and take off.

    5 ? against 1 and they ? him and run. What kind of sucker ? is that?
  • RickyRich
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    lion_heart wrote: »
    On March 9, a day before his sentencing hearing, Tupac left his room at the Montrose Hotel, where he lived while in town. He steered his rented Lexus LS 300 coupe to a Shell station on Sunset, parked, entered the convenience store, and searched for magazines and snack foods. Five Crips appeared, one of them asking, Where you from?

    All over, Tupac replied.
    "No you ain't," said the Crip. "You from Baltimore. But you don't never claim it. I know 'cause my homeboy used to take care of you."
    Tupac said, Your homeboy lied. No one took care of me in Baltimore.
    Just then, white teenagers stepped up to ask for an autograph. Tupac turned to sign one. Infuriated, the Crip yelled, "I'm first to jack this ? !"
    Sensing danger, Tupac quickly reached over to a display case filled with scissors and grabbed a pair. But it was too late. The wily Crip slammed a ham-like fist into Tupac's eye, then left the store with his four friends. Holding the pair of scissors like a dagger, Tupac burst onto Sunset Boulevard and saw the Crip enter a car and take off.

    5 ? against 1 and they ? him and run. What kind of sucker ? is that?

    lmaao
  • $tayRichROLLIN
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    Streets talk!!! Where is the real niccas from LA at? Cause real ? know what's up and how PAC ain't bang never has never will. Perfect example if PAC was bangin blood he would not been cool with monster kody! 83k was strictly BK bacc then. He wouldn't have fucced the homies from the set 40s, 60s cause there BK still to this day.
  • dwade206
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    dwade206 wrote: »
    Pac didn't get shot over a chain and anyone who believes that is an idiot and surprised Quick is being so gullable. The only people that know for sure who killed Pac, are Pac, Suge, and the guy Suge hired.

    You are perpetuating that ? that you have been fed by the media in the demonization of Suge. A lot of ? that he had nothing to do with gets attributed to him. Suge did a lot of ? up ? and yes he had a role in Pacs death but not that way. His Role was letting Pac act wildly around him instead of protecting him as the asset he was instead having him stomp out people with him. Pac next to Suge thought he was unstoppable and some Crips in a Lac had show him otherwise. ? the Documentries by people that never knew, or kind of knew, or knew in a business capacity all those kats have a bigger agenda. Pacs friends and Family most who have issue with Suge and his Crew Over various issues do not have issue with thinking he setup his death hell they know the war that popped off over this ? . They may be mad and blame him for getting him involved which lead to his death but they know his peoples rode to war over it. Pac tried to be a down ass homie and jumped into a beef he should have steered clear of and let the soldiers/entourage handle..

    Right that would explain Lane standing there in the lobby without a ticket to the fight (dude was a ? ), DR wanting to ? Frank Alexander for not complying with their made up story of Pac being robbed previously and that's why he got killed, Pac wanting to leave DR, and Suge trying to play victim by stating he had a bullet stuck in his head though it was proven to be shards of glass. Funny how the car was sprayed and Suge made it out just fine.
    But you say ? ? the documentaries right? ? outta here.
  • lion_heart
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    pac said alot of times hes not a gang banger . Thats why you seen him everybody hood either blood or crip .

    Until he got to Tha Row. It was all red from there.

    I ain't never seen that ? rocking all red when he was on Death Row. Where you get that from?
  • Soloman_The_Wise
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    dwade206 wrote: »
    dwade206 wrote: »
    Pac didn't get shot over a chain and anyone who believes that is an idiot and surprised Quick is being so gullable. The only people that know for sure who killed Pac, are Pac, Suge, and the guy Suge hired.

    You are perpetuating that ? that you have been fed by the media in the demonization of Suge. A lot of ? that he had nothing to do with gets attributed to him. Suge did a lot of ? up ? and yes he had a role in Pacs death but not that way. His Role was letting Pac act wildly around him instead of protecting him as the asset he was instead having him stomp out people with him. Pac next to Suge thought he was unstoppable and some Crips in a Lac had show him otherwise. ? the Documentries by people that never knew, or kind of knew, or knew in a business capacity all those kats have a bigger agenda. Pacs friends and Family most who have issue with Suge and his Crew Over various issues do not have issue with thinking he setup his death hell they know the war that popped off over this ? . They may be mad and blame him for getting him involved which lead to his death but they know his peoples rode to war over it. Pac tried to be a down ass homie and jumped into a beef he should have steered clear of and let the soldiers/entourage handle..

    Right that would explain Lane standing there in the lobby without a ticket to the fight (dude was a ? ), DR wanting to ? Frank Alexander for not complying with their made up story of Pac being robbed previously and that's why he got killed, Pac wanting to leave DR, and Suge trying to play victim by stating he had a bullet stuck in his head though it was proven to be shards of glass. Funny how the car was sprayed and Suge made it out just fine.
    But you say ? ? the documentaries right? ? outta here.
    You drinking the Kool aid is up to you, Hell I would not doubt Suge used Pac as Body Shield given dude only caught a graze wound but he did not set the ? up he stood to much to lose in all aspects of it his freedom, life, wealth, position, connections etc... The street ? got out of hand and Pac got into the middle of ? Suge was supposed to be protecting him from. So believe what you want if conspiracy makes life easier to deal with then common sense and reality do you more power to you. And again yes ? the Documentries because there are just as many pointing things in any which direction supporting or contradicting all theories on the matter all of them have an agenda. So when the Outlawz, Afeni and Sekyiwa make the ? till then take it as closer to gospel then the rest of the ? which should only be used as reference in acquiring a bigger picture of all those involved...
  • dwade206
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    Yeah that's great but I just stated factual events that were pointed out in the documentaries. So, where are yours?
  • dwade206
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    Iono, that kool aid taste pretty good right about now. Red, ? .
  • Tommy bilfiger
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    kzzl wrote: »
    I was bumping that So Many Tears loud as ? the other day.

    Duuuuh, duuh, duh... duh...dah, duh. That bass line is crucial.

    All these years i just noticed that ? aint got a curse word in it. You could play that ? anywhere.

    Less im forgetting a lyric.

    Fucc the world cuz I'm cursed I'm having visions of leaving here in a hearse

    Don't trust my lady cause she's a product of this poison/I'm hearin noises/think she fuccin all my boys can't take no more
  • 5 Grand
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    When it got to the end of his life, Pac had absolutely no idea what he was saying, what he was doing or who his real friends were. Most of what he said in interviews was contradicted by what he said in another interview.

    Pac wasn't a leader. He just liked the idea of being a leader but in reality he didn't know which way to go.

    He was completely lost. Just look at the last photo of him in the car with Suge.

    tupac-last-photo.jpg


  • Soloman_The_Wise
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    dwade206 wrote: »
    Yeah that's great but I just stated factual events that were pointed out in the documentaries. So, where are yours?
    dwade206 wrote: »
    Iono, that kool aid taste pretty good right about now. Red, ? .

    Ironically I stated Factual Events also that were in teh News and multiple Documentaries do you need a bibliography now in order to digest ? ? As I said we can take the words of those that were intricately connected to Pac or those that made Documentries for a profit and agenda snaking off his legacy with some Facts, Half truths, Fictions, Propagandas, Conjecture and Urban Legends mixed together and all presented as the gospel. Again though if the couple you are referencing are the end all for you let that be the religion you subscribe to as they all need a Devil and Suge makes just as good one with the fictions as he does with the facts...