DJ Quik Blames Tupac's Death & Death Row's Fall On Travon Lane

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  • The Nuisance
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    Don't 4get Puffy and BadBoy employed crips and PAC got shot by Puffy's homies so of course he rode with the bloods afterwards. Especially being that the big homie Suge was the only person willing to bail him out and he was a blood. He starting banging at 24 cause he got shot and had crip enemies. In Oakland PAC was raised by crips tho so he had love for crips law Snoop, Nate, Daz, etc.
  • blackrain
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    Here's what I never got about Bad Boy and the Crips...how did Puff even get around them ? ? I mean clearly it's easy to see how the Bloods were all intertwined in Death Row but how the Crips end up in Bad Boys world like that?
  • blackstarr
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    blackrain wrote: »
    Here's what I never got about Bad Boy and the Crips...how did Puff even get around them ? ? I mean clearly it's easy to see how the Bloods were all intertwined in Death Row but how the Crips end up in Bad Boys world like that?


    Keffe D Orlando's uncle who was in the white caddilac when Pac got shot got introduced to Puff through Zip who was already working for Puff providing security for his artists.

    Apparently they met at the an Award show back in 92.... It's was Keefe that provided the caddilac that they used for Ushers first video..



  • blackstarr
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    The crazy ? is Keefe and Suge are basically from the same neighborhood and they knew each other since they were kids.
    Puff was scared as ? from Suge and that's why he wanted to get rid of him.. Suge being tight with the Bloods made it only easier for Puff to get the Crips involved to pop him and Pac
  • Soloman_The_Wise
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    Cain1 wrote: »
    So Big Meech is responsible in some way for all the fuckery that took place lol.
    Black Mafia=/= Black Mafia Family...
  • RickyRich
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    that ? will be playing tupac in the biopick
  • Idiopathic Joker
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    So that is Faith Evans on the song Wonder Why They Call You ? ?
  • blackstarr
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    So that is Faith Evans on the song Wonder Why They Call You ? ?

    On the og yes...the retail version had jewell on it
  • dwade206
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    Soloman is an ambulance chaser. Bunch of ? theories and sensationalism.
  • $tayRichROLLIN
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    Fuccin busters with these theory's. Some of u square biz ass niccas coming up with theories and equations and ? .
  • Soloman_The_Wise
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    dwade206 wrote: »
    Soloman is an ambulance chaser. Bunch of ? theories and sensationalism.
    Yeah my theories based on facts and common sense are ? but yours based on gossip, conjecture and extreme conspiracy are gospel? If Suge was the mastermind of such a advanced plan he would have to be a level of brilliant and lucky I cannot give him nor can anyone with a ounce of logical or critical thought. In that scenario Mastermind Suge would never have fallen off he would have been to smart to, given he can see the future and had confidence enough to know he was not going to be shot dead by a stray sitting next to the homie. I gotcha you making that 206 in your screen name look bad with your gullibility, so again believe whatever makes you feel better anyone with sense knows better though...
  • RickyRich
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  • tharealest561
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    lion_heart wrote: »
    pac said alot of times hes not a gang banger . Thats why you seen him everybody hood either blood or crip .

    Until he got to Tha Row. It was all red from there.

    I ain't never seen that ? rocking all red when he was on Death Row. Where you get that from?

    Look at them pics when he got the Euphanasia medallion on. In one, (I think hes laid up w/ kidada) He even had the red dress shoes lol




  • Me1971
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    5 Grand wrote: »
    The song "Who Shot Ya" had nothing to do with Tupac getting shot. That song was on mixtapes before Pac got shot.


    He says "Slaughter/electrical tape around your daughter" Pac didn't have a daughter.

    And another thing that I was thinking about a few nights ago. Cats on the West Coast were saying that they didn't get any love on the East Coast (DJs weren't playing West Coast Hip Hop in clubs, etc.) But if you listen to "Real ? Do Real Things" Big showed mad love to the West Coast.

    Idk, Big was saying stuff about robbing for the Rolex in the song. Everyone knows that Pac lost his Rolex during the robbery. He also said "so you know where to tell Jake lame ? , brave ? , turn front page ? " and I can see how that can be interpreted by Pac as something about him. Pac was on the front page in NY times after he was shot. He was also in the papers after calling Haitian Jack a snitch. And remember, Big went back and added those verses, then randomly released the song on the radio. It had nothing to do with Ready to Die. I could be reaching, but if I'm not, I think Big was just used as a ? to make that song by Haitian Jack.
  • rip.dilla
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  • RickyRich
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    rip.dilla wrote: »
    @stackzmobundlez ..



    Props for the effort

    word.
  • nycest_1
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    pac was the only one who made pac a hypocrite.
    talked positive black power ? out one side of his mouth and fake gangster ? out the other.
    he got killed cuz he wasn't bout that life
  • RickyRich
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    Pac jus got caught up in some ? he should have stayed out of
  • RickyRich
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    Pac had all the wrong ppl around him. Brunch of yes men
  • S2J
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    Man i just found about Keefe D's confession. Thats the whole case right here lol smh


    Th thing about Pac's murder is, if you chose to believe certain people, the ? is no longer complicated and the case has indeed been solved. Thata the only thing, can you believe them. Considerign that gangsters snitch and all the other pieces, i believe this is what happened

    http://www.laweekly.com/2011-10-06/news/cop-s-book-says-sean-combs-suge-knight-ordered-tupac-and-biggie-killings/

    The 'Keffe D' Tapes: 10 Highlights of Confession From Gangster Who Says Sean Combs Hired Him to ? Tupac


    "A barrel-chested black man with a front tooth missing, relaxed yet instinctively cautious, is seated across from four spellbound cops in a glass-walled conference room at 8200 Wilshire Blvd."

    So begins today's LA Weekly expose on new revelations in the double murder investigation of L.A. rapper Tupac Shakur and his New York competition, Biggie Smalls.

    For West Coast hip-hop loyalists, the confession of interest is that of Duane Keith "Keffe D" Davis, who says Sean "Diddy" Combs offered him $1 million to ? Tupac and his manager, Suge Knight. But that's just the tip of the iceberg:

    A three-hour recording of Keffe D's admissions, lifted from LAPD archives by ex-Detective Greg Kading and reviewed by the Weekly, paints a colorful backstory of the events leading up to Shakur's murder. Here are 10 insane highlights.

    10. Cops have been following Keffe D for the last year, gathering enough evidence about the ? ring he's been running to put him away for 25 years to life -- motivation for him to become an informant on the Shakur case. In this clip, Detective Kading and Keffe D establish the terms of the agreement.

    Detective Kading: "What about that whole ? about Tupac?" [Referring to a statement the gangster gave to the FBI in 1997, saying he had nothing to do with the murder and guessing that Suge Knight may have killed Shakur for threatening to leave Death Row Records.]
    Keffe D: "Oh, that was ? ."
    Detective Kading: "OK. ... Keffe, today what we're going to do, we're just going to go over with a fine-toothed comb the Las Vegas incident. ... But we do have to emphasize to you that everything in this report has to be right on, because if down the road it's determined that some of these details are incorrect, then everything's off the table. So everything in this report cannot be like that report."
    Keffe D: "Like I said that day, don't ? me, and I won't ? you."

    9. Keffe D makes sure detectives know who they're dealing with.

    Keffe D: "I'm a dangerous ? without smoking weed, dude. I get mad easy, you know what I'm saying?"
    LAPD Detective Daryn Dupree: "We know you, man. We know what you can and can't do."
    Federal agent: "That's how [Detective Kading] is without coffee."
    Keffe D: "Keep me calm. Keep me from hurting people, man."

    8. Keffe D describes the moment his nephew, Orlando "Baby Lane" Anderson, allegedly shot Shakur. (See official cast of characters for more.)

    Detective Kading: So Orlando shot across Dre?
    Keffe D: "He leaned over, and Orlando rolled down the window, and popped him. If they would have drove on my side, I would have popped them. But they was on the other side."
    ...
    Federal agent: "Where does [Baby Lane] get the gun from?"
    Keffe D: "A little secret compartment that popped up."
    Federal agent: "In the armrest?"
    Keffe D: "Yeah."
    Detective Kading: "Was it a Glock?"
    Keffe D: "Yeah."
    Detective Kading: ".40?"
    Keffe D: "Yeah. And I ain't ever told nobody that story, man."

    6. Keffe D says he was introduced to Combs through another Crip named "Zip," who was also in on the million-dollar deal. However, Keffe D adds that he personally got on Combs' good side by lending him his car to use in Usher's first music video.

    Keffe D: "We met the boy [Combs] at the -- he gave a BET party, or the BET awards, its like '92 or '93, at the club on Santa Monica. And uh, Mary J was [there]. And the tall dude, used to have the dreads, he's with Aftermath now, what's his name?"
    Federal agent: "Busta Rhymes?"
    Keffe D: Busta Rhymes. ... Me and him almost got in a fight. I was suited ... He thought he was all big ? . I was all, 'We going to beat the ? out of that boy.' He threw his drink on me, and I was like, '? !' Yeah, that's the first day I met Puff [Combs]. ... And after that they used my car in the video."
    Detective Dupree: "Which car was that?"
    Keffe D: "A '64 Chevy I had."
    Detective Dupree: "What color was it?"
    Keffe D: "Brown. "Usher, he had Usher... It was Usher's video, and Puff [Combs] was driving the car."
    Detective Dupree: "You remember the song?"
    Keffe D: "'Can I Get With It.' That was his first song ever -- Usher's first song ever. He was in a Lakers uniform, and [Combs] had the little kid dancing on the car. When I got it back, it was ? up, and he paid to get it repainted. He sent me $2500 for that."

  • S2J
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    5. Investigators ask Keffe D when the animosity between Bad Boy Entertainment and Death Row Records first began.

    Detective Dupree: "Did Puffy have a place out here [in Los Angeles]?"
    Keffe D: "He used to stay if Shug was outta here. ... He was scared shitless."
    Detective Dupree: "So that beef had started by then?"
    Keffe D: "No, it started when they went out to that award show..."

    4. By Keffe D's account, Zip, Combs and himself discussed the hit on Shakur once at a concert in Anaheim and "a couple of times" at Greenblatts Deli on the Sunset Strip.

    Detective Kading: "Tell us what happened that made it something other than just him frustrated and boasting -- 'Man, I'll give you guys anything.' What made it specific, like, 'Hey, I'm serious, I want you guys to ? these guys'?"
    Keffe D: "When he told me at Greenblatts."
    Detective Kading: "How'd that go, like what was the conversation?"
    Federal agent: "And who's 'he'?"
    Keffe D: "Puff."
    Detective Kading: "How's the conversation go? ... We need really specific details regarding that."
    Keffe D: "We wanted a million."
    Detective Kading: All right, so you meet him at Greenblatts. For lunch or dinner or what?"
    Keffe D: "This was dinner, in the evening."
    Detective Kading: "Who else was there?"
    Keffe D: "All of us -- Corey, everybody. All our crew."
    Detective Kading: "Everybody's hearing this conversation between you and Puff?"
    Keffe D: "He was talking to me. ... When we got there we was laughing at him, cause he was with this broad that sucked ? , and sucked every ? in there, and he's all held up kissing with her. We was laughing like a ? . He's like, 'Man, what you laughing at dog?' Man, don't just come out here and get any broad, dog. ... He took me downstairs and he's like, 'Man, I wanna get rid of them dudes, man.' ... I was like, 'We'll wipe their ass out quick, man. It's nothing.'"

    3. The motivation behind Combs' alleged order to ? Knight and Shakur, says Keffe D, was fear that the other side would strike first.

    Detective Dupree: "When [Combs] asked about [Shakur and Knight], would he always say both of them?"
    Keffe D: "He added the boy [Shakur] on after he made a record."
    Detective Dupree: "Before that it was just Suge? And then after 'Hit 'Em Up' came out?"
    Keffe D: "Yeah, yeah, that ? [Combs] off."

    2. Keffe D says he's known Suge Knight since childhood, growing up on the streets of Compton. So when Keffe D first started hanging out with Combs, he says the Death Row boss kept badgering him, like, how you meet them guys? "Same way I met you, ? ," he remembers answering. (Aka, the drug trade.) Making the moment they lock eyes during the 1996 shooting even more dramatic:

    Keffe D: "We came up Harmon, got to Las Vegas Boulevard, and ? , here he come in that BMW. ... Broads like, 'Tupac! Tupac!' and we like, 'There they go!' Made a U-turn, we wasn't supposed to make a U-turn. ... And they was in the middle lane, and we just pulled up on the side and checked every car to see where they was."
    ...
    Detective Kading: "So Lane starts blasting and Suge looks over and sees you?"
    Keffe D: "Yeah."
    Detective Kading: "He looks right at you?"
    Keffe D: "Yeah, he looked at me. ... We've known each other since we was seven or eight years old."
    Detective Kading: "He looks over at you, and then, Tupac's busy getting shot -- story is tupac's either trying to get out of the way..."
    Keffe D: "He's in the backseat or something."
    Detective Kading: "What do you see happening?"
    Keffe D: "I see the bullet go in Shug's head. I thought he was dead. I thought he was dead. It must have scraped him or something, in the head or something. ... I thought he was dead."

    1. Most ironically, Keffe D says he never got the money Combs had allegedly offered him. Word on the street, according to Keffe D, is that Combs gave half the reward to Zip (seeing as Suge Knight was still alive), and Zip never relayed it back to its rightful owner. This might have been the fateful mistake that led to Keffe D's confession:

    Detective Kading: "Since you've been out of prison, have you talked to Zip?"
    Keffe D: "Not one time."
    Detective Kading: "What about Puffy?"
    Keffe D: "I tried to call them several times though ... If he would have just given us half the money, I would have stayed strong."


    http://blogs.laweekly.com/informer/2011/10/keffe_d_confession_tupac_murder.php


    http://community.allhiphop.com/discussion/318239/keefe-d-from-compton-crip-says-puffy-paid-him-a-million-to-? -tupac-and-suge/p1
  • S2J
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    Just found this out: Suge paid Orlando Anderson (AFTER Pac died)


    In 1997, Suge Knight paid Orlando Anderson $16,000 to speak on his behalf in court. In “Murder Rap: The Untold Story of the Biggie Smalls & Tupac Shakur Murder Investigations,” Kading details a last ditch attempt by Knight to escape jail time for his role in the 1996 beating of Orlando Anderson—a parole violation that would send Knight back to prison. The former gang enforcer and member of the Mob Piru Bloods, Knight, paid Anderson--a Southside Crip and the man he suspected of killing his “friend” and biggest star--to testify in court about his involvement in the fight.
    Anderson would testify that Knight had nothing to do with the fight and that he was trying to keep others from beating him. The judge saw through the charade and sentenced Knight to nine years in prison.



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  • loch121
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    Quik talking dat ? but he knows there's consequences when u call out names especially reputables. Quik needs to think before speaking cause them broke ass SSCCs will come through there! Hell everyone in Compton knows SSCCs are wit the biz

    From what I seen Quik ain't never been a chump and even got a body that's public record, but was never proven.
  • RickyRich
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    Tupac really got played .
  • TheRicanKing
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    Suge should've gotten Keffe killed.
    I know I would if he and Orlando just killed my biggest money making artist, ? damn wtf.