Bill Gates: There's no scientific explanation of how it (the universe) came about!

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  • Ajackson17
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    And carbon dating as well.
  • nex gin
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    nex gin wrote: »
    Stew wrote: »
    I'd actually believe this before I believe anything else. Nobody that we know that they knew that they knew doesn't have a clue how this ? started. All speculation.

    c/s but you can't tell people this ? . It sounds too much like common sense. Everybody has a theory..a feeling...a religious belief.....an idea.........but nobody has any irrefutable proof to substantiate any argument. Muffugguhs can't even cure the common cold, but claim to have the answer to the "ultimate question". smh

    Why create a cure when the cure is inside you? Viruses are embedded inside of us. You can't actually get rid of them.

    I'm sensing that you missed my point. Carry on.
  • Sour-Cream
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    Some ? worship science and some ? worship ? . The ? that worship ? believe that part of ? 's massive creation was a small intricate part of it called science. The ? that worship science doubt that all of anything can come from one being. The bible doesn't doubt science at all. Science says that we share a common ancestor with primates but that we're not apes. What if that common ancestor did not have the ability to age like a human being?? There's a lot of loopholes that can be taken into perspective.

    Bill Gates is saying that he doesn't doubt the existence of ? .
  • Arya Tsaddiq
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    VIBE wrote: »
    Let's get this straight..

    Evolution is false, why?

    If evolution is false, why are there layers that contain certain fossils?

    You won't find human fossils, or dog fossils, in the layer that would contain fossils that which the dinosaurs are in. (different layers for each period)

    Can you explain the sedimentary layers of which fossils are found in? That help us figure out their order if existence and line of evolution?

    Truth, for one reason or another, tends to be suppressed. There are archeologists who would say that the holder statement is false and that you can find bones of modern animals in what they call "dinosaur digs". Read the article before you try to discredit it just because if where its from.

    Fact Check: Did Bill Nye Tell A Huge Lie About The Fossil Layers?



    http://liberallogic101.com/?p=7293
  • VIBE
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    "Mammal fossils"

    That's it? Doesn't expand on that?

    SMH

    As far as I have read and seen, not one fossil has been out of place.

    If this is the case, it would've made headlines.
  • VIBE
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    If it was enough that they thought it could change something.
  • Arya Tsaddiq
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    VIBE wrote: »
    "Mammal fossils"

    That's it? Doesn't expand on that?

    SMH

    As far as I have read and seen, not one fossil has been out of place.

    If this is the case, it would've made headlines.

    you underestimate the reach of those who would be apposed to information such as that becoming mainstream news....

    There is.no doubt in my mind that there is a group responsible for the suppression of certain news.
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    VIBE wrote: »
    For what?

    it may cause people to question the validity of evolution.

    And if you didnt read the full article, you should. Here it is:

    By the way, Dr. Burge is an evolutionist.

    Not only that, a whole host of modern creatures have been found in “dinosaur rock layers”. The following is an excerpt from an article by Calvin Smith…


    To the surprise of many, ducks,1 squirrels,2 platypus,3beaver-like4 and badger-like5 creatures have all been found in ‘dinosaur-era’ rock layers along with bees, cockroaches,frogs and pine trees. Most people don’t picture a T. rex walking along with a duck flying overhead, but that’s what the so-called ‘dino-era’ fossils would prove!

    In fact, a total of 432 different mammal species have been identified in rock layers containing dinosaurs.

    So does that mean that mammals have been around for tens of millions of years?

    No, what it could mean is that the way that evolutionists have been dating the dinosaurs is fundamentally flawed.

    Most people do not realize this, but T-Rex bones have actually been discovered that still contain soft tissue inside of them.

    If those bones truly were “millions of years old” that would be impossible.

    And carbon dating also provides strong evidence that the evolutionary timeline is seriously messed up.

    Due to the rate that it decays, there should be absolutely no measurable radioactive carbon left in any fossils that are “greater than 100,000 years old”.

    No matter how much radioactive carbon was there in the first place, it should be completely gone from anything that was once living after 100,000 years.

    But we find it in all of the ancient fossils that we dig up that get tested. We even find it in coal, diamonds and in dinosaur bones.

    If Bill Nye wants to believe in the theory of evolution that is his choice. But he should quit calling it “science”. Those that choose to believe in the theory of evolution are choosing to have blind faith in an ancient pagan religious philosophy despite what the scientific evidence actually demonstrates.

    If the theory of evolution was actually true, there should be millions upon millions of transitional fossils in the rock layers that show the development of one species into another species.

    Instead, we find just the opposite.

    But don’t take my word for it. Just check out what one of the most famous evolutionists in the entire world has to say about the matter…


    The most famous paleontologist in the world, Harvard’s Stephen Jay Gould, said, “The extreme rarity of transitional forms in the fossil record persists as the trade secret of paleontology.” (Note” “extreme rarity” is Harvard-speak for “nada, zilch, zippo.”)

    So what does the fossil record actually show?

    It actually contains remarkable evidence for a sudden creation. The following is an excerpt from a recent article by Bryan Fischer…


    What the fossil record teaches us, in contrast to the theory of evolution, is that increasingly complex life forms appear fully formed in the fossil record, just as if they were put there by a Creator. This is especially true of what is called the “Pre-Cambrian Explosion,” the vast, overwhelming, and quite sudden appearance of complex life forms at the dawn of time. Evolutionists are at a total loss to explain the Pre-Cambrian Explosion.

    The biblical record indicates quite clearly that all things, including increasingly complex life forms, came fully formed from the hand of ? .

    Thus the fossil record is a powerful argument for the existence of a Creator or Intelligent Designer while at the same time being fatal for the theory of evolution.

    Science is supposed to be about what you can observe, but nobody has ever seen Darwinian evolution take place. You cannot see it in the fossil record and you cannot see it in the laboratory.

    Just consider this quote from evolutionary microbiologist James Shapiro of the University of Chicago…


    “There are no detailed Darwinian accounts for the evolution of any fundamental biochemical or cellular systems, only a variety of wishful speculations.”

    And consider this one from University of Bristol scientist Alan Linton…


    “Throughout 150 years of the science of bacteriology, there is no evidence that one species of bacteria has changed into another. None exists in the literature claiming that one species has been shown to evolve into another.”

    For much more on all of this, please see my previous article entitled “44 Reasons Why Evolution Is Just A Fairy Tale For Adults“.

    Once again, please feel free to believe whatever you want to believe. Bill Nye certainly does and Pat Robertson certainly does. I definitely strongly disagree with both of them.

    But I hope that everyone out there will quit claiming that evolution is a “proven fact” like Bill Nye has been claiming.

    He is only embarrassing himself in front of the entire country.

    And the truth is that Bill Nye even admits that there is a vast array of things about human origins that he does not know. Here is more from Bryan Fischer…


    Where did the atoms that made up the Big Bang come from? Nye has no idea. Where did man’s consciousness come from? Nye has no idea. How can matter produce life? Nye has absolutely no idea. This surely is all one needs to know to recognize the utter bankruptcy of the theory of evolution.

    In the end, by making a ridiculous spectacle of himself and mocking Christianity, Bill Nye is actually fulfilling Bible prophecy. The following was written nearly 2000 years ago…


    Above all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. They will say, “Where is this ‘coming’ he promised? Ever since our ancestors died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation.” But they deliberately forget that long ago by ? ’s word the heavens came into being and the earth was formed out of water and by water. By these waters also the world of that time was deluged and destroyed. By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of the ungodly.

    Bill Nye can scoff at the Bible all that he wants, but he can never change the truth.
  • Alkinduz
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    They just discovered a 3 meter tall chicken/lizard dinosaur in the UsA:

    (through carbon data fossils)

    http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0092022
  • VIBE
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    VIBE wrote: »
    For what?

    it may cause people to question the validity of evolution.

    And if you didnt read the full article, you should. Here it is:

    By the way, Dr. Burge is an evolutionist.

    Not only that, a whole host of modern creatures have been found in “dinosaur rock layers”. The following is an excerpt from an article by Calvin Smith…


    To the surprise of many, ducks,1 squirrels,2 platypus,3beaver-like4 and badger-like5 creatures have all been found in ‘dinosaur-era’ rock layers along with bees, cockroaches,frogs and pine trees. Most people don’t picture a T. rex walking along with a duck flying overhead, but that’s what the so-called ‘dino-era’ fossils would prove!

    In fact, a total of 432 different mammal species have been identified in rock layers containing dinosaurs.

    So does that mean that mammals have been around for tens of millions of years?

    No, what it could mean is that the way that evolutionists have been dating the dinosaurs is fundamentally flawed.

    Most people do not realize this, but T-Rex bones have actually been discovered that still contain soft tissue inside of them.

    If those bones truly were “millions of years old” that would be impossible.

    And carbon dating also provides strong evidence that the evolutionary timeline is seriously messed up.

    Due to the rate that it decays, there should be absolutely no measurable radioactive carbon left in any fossils that are “greater than 100,000 years old”.

    No matter how much radioactive carbon was there in the first place, it should be completely gone from anything that was once living after 100,000 years.

    But we find it in all of the ancient fossils that we dig up that get tested. We even find it in coal, diamonds and in dinosaur bones.

    If Bill Nye wants to believe in the theory of evolution that is his choice. But he should quit calling it “science”. Those that choose to believe in the theory of evolution are choosing to have blind faith in an ancient pagan religious philosophy despite what the scientific evidence actually demonstrates.

    If the theory of evolution was actually true, there should be millions upon millions of transitional fossils in the rock layers that show the development of one species into another species.

    Instead, we find just the opposite.

    But don’t take my word for it. Just check out what one of the most famous evolutionists in the entire world has to say about the matter…


    The most famous paleontologist in the world, Harvard’s Stephen Jay Gould, said, “The extreme rarity of transitional forms in the fossil record persists as the trade secret of paleontology.” (Note” “extreme rarity” is Harvard-speak for “nada, zilch, zippo.”)

    So what does the fossil record actually show?

    It actually contains remarkable evidence for a sudden creation. The following is an excerpt from a recent article by Bryan Fischer…


    What the fossil record teaches us, in contrast to the theory of evolution, is that increasingly complex life forms appear fully formed in the fossil record, just as if they were put there by a Creator. This is especially true of what is called the “Pre-Cambrian Explosion,” the vast, overwhelming, and quite sudden appearance of complex life forms at the dawn of time. Evolutionists are at a total loss to explain the Pre-Cambrian Explosion.

    The biblical record indicates quite clearly that all things, including increasingly complex life forms, came fully formed from the hand of ? .

    Thus the fossil record is a powerful argument for the existence of a Creator or Intelligent Designer while at the same time being fatal for the theory of evolution.

    Science is supposed to be about what you can observe, but nobody has ever seen Darwinian evolution take place. You cannot see it in the fossil record and you cannot see it in the laboratory.

    Just consider this quote from evolutionary microbiologist James Shapiro of the University of Chicago…


    “There are no detailed Darwinian accounts for the evolution of any fundamental biochemical or cellular systems, only a variety of wishful speculations.”

    And consider this one from University of Bristol scientist Alan Linton…


    “Throughout 150 years of the science of bacteriology, there is no evidence that one species of bacteria has changed into another. None exists in the literature claiming that one species has been shown to evolve into another.”

    For much more on all of this, please see my previous article entitled “44 Reasons Why Evolution Is Just A Fairy Tale For Adults“.

    Once again, please feel free to believe whatever you want to believe. Bill Nye certainly does and Pat Robertson certainly does. I definitely strongly disagree with both of them.

    But I hope that everyone out there will quit claiming that evolution is a “proven fact” like Bill Nye has been claiming.

    He is only embarrassing himself in front of the entire country.

    And the truth is that Bill Nye even admits that there is a vast array of things about human origins that he does not know. Here is more from Bryan Fischer…


    Where did the atoms that made up the Big Bang come from? Nye has no idea. Where did man’s consciousness come from? Nye has no idea. How can matter produce life? Nye has absolutely no idea. This surely is all one needs to know to recognize the utter bankruptcy of the theory of evolution.

    In the end, by making a ridiculous spectacle of himself and mocking Christianity, Bill Nye is actually fulfilling Bible prophecy. The following was written nearly 2000 years ago…


    Above all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. They will say, “Where is this ‘coming’ he promised? Ever since our ancestors died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation.” But they deliberately forget that long ago by ? ’s word the heavens came into being and the earth was formed out of water and by water. By these waters also the world of that time was deluged and destroyed. By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of the ungodly.

    Bill Nye can scoff at the Bible all that he wants, but he can never change the truth.

    Link to the site?
  • VIBE
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    I ask because instead of scientifically proving anything, the article seems to want to push creationism, making this extremely bias. Using "here's words from a scientist", isn't good enough.

    Show me these layers and fossils that have these animals/mammals mixed.
  • Arya Tsaddiq
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    VIBE wrote: »
    VIBE wrote: »
    For what?

    it may cause people to question the validity of evolution.

    And if you didnt read the full article, you should. Here it is:

    By the way, Dr. Burge is an evolutionist.

    Not only that, a whole host of modern creatures have been found in “dinosaur rock layers”. The following is an excerpt from an article by Calvin Smith…


    To the surprise of many, ducks,1 squirrels,2 platypus,3beaver-like4 and badger-like5 creatures have all been found in ‘dinosaur-era’ rock layers along with bees, cockroaches,frogs and pine trees. Most people don’t picture a T. rex walking along with a duck flying overhead, but that’s what the so-called ‘dino-era’ fossils would prove!

    In fact, a total of 432 different mammal species have been identified in rock layers containing dinosaurs.

    So does that mean that mammals have been around for tens of millions of years?

    No, what it could mean is that the way that evolutionists have been dating the dinosaurs is fundamentally flawed.

    Most people do not realize this, but T-Rex bones have actually been discovered that still contain soft tissue inside of them.

    If those bones truly were “millions of years old” that would be impossible.

    And carbon dating also provides strong evidence that the evolutionary timeline is seriously messed up.

    Due to the rate that it decays, there should be absolutely no measurable radioactive carbon left in any fossils that are “greater than 100,000 years old”.

    No matter how much radioactive carbon was there in the first place, it should be completely gone from anything that was once living after 100,000 years.

    But we find it in all of the ancient fossils that we dig up that get tested. We even find it in coal, diamonds and in dinosaur bones.

    If Bill Nye wants to believe in the theory of evolution that is his choice. But he should quit calling it “science”. Those that choose to believe in the theory of evolution are choosing to have blind faith in an ancient pagan religious philosophy despite what the scientific evidence actually demonstrates.

    If the theory of evolution was actually true, there should be millions upon millions of transitional fossils in the rock layers that show the development of one species into another species.

    Instead, we find just the opposite.

    But don’t take my word for it. Just check out what one of the most famous evolutionists in the entire world has to say about the matter…


    The most famous paleontologist in the world, Harvard’s Stephen Jay Gould, said, “The extreme rarity of transitional forms in the fossil record persists as the trade secret of paleontology.” (Note” “extreme rarity” is Harvard-speak for “nada, zilch, zippo.”)

    So what does the fossil record actually show?

    It actually contains remarkable evidence for a sudden creation. The following is an excerpt from a recent article by Bryan Fischer…


    What the fossil record teaches us, in contrast to the theory of evolution, is that increasingly complex life forms appear fully formed in the fossil record, just as if they were put there by a Creator. This is especially true of what is called the “Pre-Cambrian Explosion,” the vast, overwhelming, and quite sudden appearance of complex life forms at the dawn of time. Evolutionists are at a total loss to explain the Pre-Cambrian Explosion.

    The biblical record indicates quite clearly that all things, including increasingly complex life forms, came fully formed from the hand of ? .

    Thus the fossil record is a powerful argument for the existence of a Creator or Intelligent Designer while at the same time being fatal for the theory of evolution.

    Science is supposed to be about what you can observe, but nobody has ever seen Darwinian evolution take place. You cannot see it in the fossil record and you cannot see it in the laboratory.

    Just consider this quote from evolutionary microbiologist James Shapiro of the University of Chicago…


    “There are no detailed Darwinian accounts for the evolution of any fundamental biochemical or cellular systems, only a variety of wishful speculations.”

    And consider this one from University of Bristol scientist Alan Linton…


    “Throughout 150 years of the science of bacteriology, there is no evidence that one species of bacteria has changed into another. None exists in the literature claiming that one species has been shown to evolve into another.”

    For much more on all of this, please see my previous article entitled “44 Reasons Why Evolution Is Just A Fairy Tale For Adults“.

    Once again, please feel free to believe whatever you want to believe. Bill Nye certainly does and Pat Robertson certainly does. I definitely strongly disagree with both of them.

    But I hope that everyone out there will quit claiming that evolution is a “proven fact” like Bill Nye has been claiming.

    He is only embarrassing himself in front of the entire country.

    And the truth is that Bill Nye even admits that there is a vast array of things about human origins that he does not know. Here is more from Bryan Fischer…


    Where did the atoms that made up the Big Bang come from? Nye has no idea. Where did man’s consciousness come from? Nye has no idea. How can matter produce life? Nye has absolutely no idea. This surely is all one needs to know to recognize the utter bankruptcy of the theory of evolution.

    In the end, by making a ridiculous spectacle of himself and mocking Christianity, Bill Nye is actually fulfilling Bible prophecy. The following was written nearly 2000 years ago…


    Above all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. They will say, “Where is this ‘coming’ he promised? Ever since our ancestors died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation.” But they deliberately forget that long ago by ? ’s word the heavens came into being and the earth was formed out of water and by water. By these waters also the world of that time was deluged and destroyed. By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of the ungodly.

    Bill Nye can scoff at the Bible all that he wants, but he can never change the truth.

    Link to the site?

    http://www.infowars.com/fact-check-did-bill-nye-tell-a-huge-lie-about-the-fossil-layers/

  • VIBE
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    Alex Jones, oh....
  • Arya Tsaddiq
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    VIBE wrote: »
    Let's get this straight..

    Evolution is false, why?

    If evolution is false, why are there layers that contain certain fossils?

    You won't find human fossils, or dog fossils, in the layer that would contain fossils that which the dinosaurs are in. (different layers for each period)

    Can you explain the sedimentary layers of which fossils are found in? That help us figure out their order if existence and line of evolution?

    Truth, for one reason or another, tends to be suppressed. There are archeologists who would say that the holder statement is false and that you can find bones of modern animals in what they call "dinosaur digs". Read the article before you try to discredit it just because if where its from.

    Fact Check: Did Bill Nye Tell A Huge Lie About The Fossil Layers?



    http://liberallogic101.com/?p=7293
    VIBE wrote: »
    VIBE wrote: »
    For what?

    it may cause people to question the validity of evolution.

    And if you didnt read the full article, you should. Here it is:

    By the way, Dr. Burge is an evolutionist.

    Not only that, a whole host of modern creatures have been found in “dinosaur rock layers”. The following is an excerpt from an article by Calvin Smith…


    To the surprise of many, ducks,1 squirrels,2 platypus,3beaver-like4 and badger-like5 creatures have all been found in ‘dinosaur-era’ rock layers along with bees, cockroaches,frogs and pine trees. Most people don’t picture a T. rex walking along with a duck flying overhead, but that’s what the so-called ‘dino-era’ fossils would prove!

    In fact, a total of 432 different mammal species have been identified in rock layers containing dinosaurs.

    So does that mean that mammals have been around for tens of millions of years?

    No, what it could mean is that the way that evolutionists have been dating the dinosaurs is fundamentally flawed.

    Most people do not realize this, but T-Rex bones have actually been discovered that still contain soft tissue inside of them.

    If those bones truly were “millions of years old” that would be impossible.

    And carbon dating also provides strong evidence that the evolutionary timeline is seriously messed up.

    Due to the rate that it decays, there should be absolutely no measurable radioactive carbon left in any fossils that are “greater than 100,000 years old”.

    No matter how much radioactive carbon was there in the first place, it should be completely gone from anything that was once living after 100,000 years.

    But we find it in all of the ancient fossils that we dig up that get tested. We even find it in coal, diamonds and in dinosaur bones.

    If Bill Nye wants to believe in the theory of evolution that is his choice. But he should quit calling it “science”. Those that choose to believe in the theory of evolution are choosing to have blind faith in an ancient pagan religious philosophy despite what the scientific evidence actually demonstrates.

    If the theory of evolution was actually true, there should be millions upon millions of transitional fossils in the rock layers that show the development of one species into another species.

    Instead, we find just the opposite.

    But don’t take my word for it. Just check out what one of the most famous evolutionists in the entire world has to say about the matter…


    The most famous paleontologist in the world, Harvard’s Stephen Jay Gould, said, “The extreme rarity of transitional forms in the fossil record persists as the trade secret of paleontology.” (Note” “extreme rarity” is Harvard-speak for “nada, zilch, zippo.”)

    So what does the fossil record actually show?

    It actually contains remarkable evidence for a sudden creation. The following is an excerpt from a recent article by Bryan Fischer…


    What the fossil record teaches us, in contrast to the theory of evolution, is that increasingly complex life forms appear fully formed in the fossil record, just as if they were put there by a Creator. This is especially true of what is called the “Pre-Cambrian Explosion,” the vast, overwhelming, and quite sudden appearance of complex life forms at the dawn of time. Evolutionists are at a total loss to explain the Pre-Cambrian Explosion.

    The biblical record indicates quite clearly that all things, including increasingly complex life forms, came fully formed from the hand of ? .

    Thus the fossil record is a powerful argument for the existence of a Creator or Intelligent Designer while at the same time being fatal for the theory of evolution.

    Science is supposed to be about what you can observe, but nobody has ever seen Darwinian evolution take place. You cannot see it in the fossil record and you cannot see it in the laboratory.

    Just consider this quote from evolutionary microbiologist James Shapiro of the University of Chicago…


    “There are no detailed Darwinian accounts for the evolution of any fundamental biochemical or cellular systems, only a variety of wishful speculations.”

    And consider this one from University of Bristol scientist Alan Linton…


    “Throughout 150 years of the science of bacteriology, there is no evidence that one species of bacteria has changed into another. None exists in the literature claiming that one species has been shown to evolve into another.”

    For much more on all of this, please see my previous article entitled “44 Reasons Why Evolution Is Just A Fairy Tale For Adults“.

    Once again, please feel free to believe whatever you want to believe. Bill Nye certainly does and Pat Robertson certainly does. I definitely strongly disagree with both of them.

    But I hope that everyone out there will quit claiming that evolution is a “proven fact” like Bill Nye has been claiming.

    He is only embarrassing himself in front of the entire country.

    And the truth is that Bill Nye even admits that there is a vast array of things about human origins that he does not know. Here is more from Bryan Fischer…


    Where did the atoms that made up the Big Bang come from? Nye has no idea. Where did man’s consciousness come from? Nye has no idea. How can matter produce life? Nye has absolutely no idea. This surely is all one needs to know to recognize the utter bankruptcy of the theory of evolution.

    In the end, by making a ridiculous spectacle of himself and mocking Christianity, Bill Nye is actually fulfilling Bible prophecy. The following was written nearly 2000 years ago…


    Above all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. They will say, “Where is this ‘coming’ he promised? Ever since our ancestors died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation.” But they deliberately forget that long ago by ? ’s word the heavens came into being and the earth was formed out of water and by water. By these waters also the world of that time was deluged and destroyed. By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of the ungodly.

    Bill Nye can scoff at the Bible all that he wants, but he can never change the truth.

    Link to the site?

    http://www.infowars.com/fact-check-did-bill-nye-tell-a-huge-lie-about-the-fossil-layers/
    VIBE wrote: »
    Alex Jones, oh....

    oh....

  • VIBE
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    Bruh, that ? has been known to show doctored info and doctor the info himself.

    I do not trust that man to tell me anything, nor anything that comes from his site.
  • Arya Tsaddiq
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    VIBE wrote: »
    Bruh, that ? has been known to show doctored info and doctor the info himself.

    I do not trust that man to tell me anything, nor anything that comes from his site.

    and fox news doesn't? Lol

    Bad argument. I take everything with a grain of salt.
  • VIBE
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    Am I using information from Fox News?
  • damobb2deep
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    zombie wrote: »
    VIBE wrote: »
    Thing is, birds did come from dinosaurs but pigs have never had one species down its evolutionary line that had wings, or even hinted at it.

    That's why I'm saying it's silly, it's unheard of and is illogical.

    but before came no other animal had feathers... so who is 2 say it cant happen 200 million years from now according 2 evolution...

    under the laws of evolution it is possible for another creature to appear with feathers
    but how if the creature didnt have feathers before?
  • damobb2deep
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    VIBE wrote: »
    Let's get this straight..

    Evolution is false, why?

    If evolution is false, why are there layers that contain certain fossils?

    You won't find human fossils, or dog fossils, in the layer that would contain fossils that which the dinosaurs are in. (different layers for each period)

    Can you explain the sedimentary layers of which fossils are found in? That help us figure out their order if existence and line of evolution?

    that has nothing 2 do with evolution... that would deal more with extinction...
  • Shizlansky
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    zombie wrote: »
    VIBE wrote: »
    Thing is, birds did come from dinosaurs but pigs have never had one species down its evolutionary line that had wings, or even hinted at it.

    That's why I'm saying it's silly, it's unheard of and is illogical.

    but before came no other animal had feathers... so who is 2 say it cant happen 200 million years from now according 2 evolution...

    under the laws of evolution it is possible for another creature to appear with feathers
    but how if the creature didnt have feathers before?

    Bruh, you can't be this stupid.
  • Arya Tsaddiq
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    VIBE wrote: »
    Alex Jones, oh....

    check this one out then:

    Dinosaur Fossil 'Wasn't Supposed to Be There'

    by Brian Thomas, M.S. *



    http://www.icr.org/article/dinosaur-fossil-wasnt-supposed-be-there/
  • Ajackson17
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    Do anyone meditate and step out of their bodies? I do time has no influence.
  • The Lonious Monk
    The Lonious Monk Members Posts: 26,258 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Don't really care about this discussion all that much, but I will drop this here for thought.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0u3-2CGOMQ

    All I want to point out in this video is that most of the people that were so confident to proclaim themselves as athiests seem completely clueless when asked questions that should be easily answered given how strongly they stand on their beliefs. I'm not saying the interviewer is right or wrong here, but he was pretty easily able to get most of those people to admit that they don't believe there is any proof in something like evolution, but they have faith that the scientists are right.

    Now I believe in ? , but I'm not a fanatical believer. What I mean is I can easily see how someone on the outside might think it's silly for me to believe in a being that I've never seen and have no concrete proof exists. At the end of the day, all I can go with is my own personal faith and that feeling that just exists in me that there is a higher being out there. But tell me, how is it any less silly for people to have blind faith in scientists who are essentially just human beings who can be wrong, have been wrong before, and will undoubtedly be wrong again. If you want to believe science has all the answers or will one day have all the answers, that's fine. But it's a bit laughable how these athiests go around belittling and talking down about religious people, but in turn can't intelligently defend their beliefs any better than those same people the criticize. Blind faith is part of many religious tenants. It's the exact opposite of how you should proceed if you're an athiest. So who is really sillier here?