How do you truly feel about monogamy? Is it your true preference?

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  • LUClEN
    LUClEN Members Posts: 20,559 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    zombie wrote: »
    also what about ? marriage you guys really cool with groups
    of men being married to each other. what happens when they adopt children and divorce.

    There's nothing that makes it inherently worse than heterosexual divorce
  • The Iconoclast
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    jono wrote: »
    Whether it's natural or not is irrelevant.

    Different societies have different ideas of sexuality and relationships. Usually their concepts of family and society dictate what kind of relationships they have.
    True.
    lot of sissies in here! hahaha

    ? in here talkin about "self control" knowin damn well its their "seif" bein controlled. lol & smh

    Lmao Boss bringing the heat.
    You have a point though, one could argue that isn't actually about self-control but a case of societal norms (among other things) controlling the individual and the individual being scared to brake the chains.
    MissK wrote: »
    monogamy is my preference.

    Do what works for you.

    Same here.
    Just wondering though, has your preference always been monogamy and could it every change?

    GOAT avi btw!
  • zombie
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    Also monogamy wasn't as widespread until the early 19th century. They were less stressed, lower divorce rate. I think polygamy is awesome. 3 incomes, 3 different personalities, 4 ? , 2 ? , all of those things are the perks to having a trio instead of a duo.

    it's 2014 like Jacob Miller used to say forward never back ward
  • zombie
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    Trashboat wrote: »
    zombie wrote: »
    also what about ? marriage you guys really cool with groups
    of men being married to each other. what happens when they adopt children and divorce.

    There's nothing that makes it inherently worse than heterosexual divorce

    spoken like a true ? .
  • 2stepz_ahead
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    DWO wrote: »
    it just takes discipline...

    just like you can control you rage, you can control your ? ....

    one could argue that murder is natural....it certainly takes place normally in the animal kingdom....but part of conforming to society is to resit your urge to rage out violently anytime you feel like it...

    and while most people chose to resist that urge, most of us personally know a few folk who chose not to.....some walking the streets, some not

    only difference is violence is punishable by law...which is why we find ? like boxing, and mma, and other forms of controlled violence almost as appealing as we find watching ? like porn......

    something about those extreme urges that peaks our interest.....

    while there are many people argue that monogamy isn't natural it's still a choice.....and people make choices on the most favorable outcome.....people who choose to be monogamous do so because they feel that is the best way to accomplish their desired goals in a relatinoship

    murder in the animal kingdom is more about survival. i need to eat and ? on my territory.
    humans murder because we can and ? on my territory
  • zombie
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    zombie wrote: »
    also what about ? marriage you guys really cool with groups
    of men being married to each other. what happens when they adopt children and divorce.

    Don't care what homos do.

    it's not so much about the ? it's about the children that a group of married ? will adopt.
  • Rasta.
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    @Zombie and @Osirus_Jenkins you two ? derailing the dude's thread
  • zombie
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    so no wants to address the social problems that would be created by polygamy. because you can't see past the ?
  • jono
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    zombie wrote: »
    also today women can stand on their own so if polygamy is made legal , they are going to want multiple husbands. how many of you want to be husband #3 ?

    You opening Pandora's box.

    The root causes of marriage in the first place is ownership and male ego stroking. A situation where the man wouldn't be the only man involved automatically sours him on the prospect.
  • LUClEN
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    zombie wrote: »
    Trashboat wrote: »
    zombie wrote: »
    also what about ? marriage you guys really cool with groups
    of men being married to each other. what happens when they adopt children and divorce.

    There's nothing that makes it inherently worse than heterosexual divorce

    spoken like a true ? .

    Instead of showing how I'm wrong you just resort to name calling
    probably because you can not and you're thinking with your feelings again
  • Rasta.
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    Rasta. wrote: »
    @Zombie and @Osirus_Jenkins you two ? derailing the dude's thread

    ? you his boyfriend?? ? off then, that man can come and dead this ? anytime. Take ur cape off.

    ? ...take that ? to the donkey. Where @chicity at to smack you around lol
  • Dupac
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    Trashboat wrote: »
    DWO wrote: »
    Shizlansky wrote: »
    DWO wrote: »
    it just takes discipline...

    just like you can control you rage, you can control your ? ....

    one could argue that murder is natural....it certainly takes place normally in the animal kingdom....but part of conforming to society is to resit your urge to rage out violently anytime you feel like it...

    and while most people chose to resist that urge, most of us personally know a few folk who chose not to.....some walking the streets, some not

    only difference is violence is punishable by law...which is why we find ? like boxing, and mma, and other forms of controlled violence almost as appealing as we find watching ? like porn......

    something about those extreme urges that peaks our interest.....

    while there are many people argue that monogamy isn't natural it's still a choice.....and people make choices on the most favorable outcome.....people who choose to be monogamous do so because they feel that is the best way to accomplish their desired goals in a relatinoship

    Animals ? other animals for food 90% of the time.

    Animals don't ? for fun.

    plenty of animals ? for fun.....all the damn time

    domestic house cats are notorious for this ?

    You said plenty of animals but only gave one example

    Surplus killing has been observed among zooplankton, damselfly naiads, predaceous mites, weasels, honey badgers, wolves, orcas, red foxes, leopards, lions, spotted hyenas, spiders, brown and black and polar bears, coyotes, lynx, mink, raccoons, dogs and house cats.
  • B_A
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    mryounggun wrote: »
    Ideally, I'd be able to go out and ? someone else and women would understand that men ? someone else rarely means they don't love or care about you. But at this point in my life, I don't have a problem controlling myself and not ? other women so monogamy works out fine for me.

  • Chi Snow
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    I ain't even do nothing....
  • MissK
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    The Iconoclast

    I have been asked this before and initially I thought that I could be okay with my partner having other partners but I am not sure it would work for me. I understand that some men view sex as sex, love as love and can separate the two-that is all well and good if it works for them. I can't do that when in a committed relationship.

    I am open to things, can do a lot of things, but one thing I can't do is be 'new ? ' so if that is what he will always need then it won't work out.

    Plus you know how we Leos do....too much ego!
  • LUClEN
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    DWO wrote: »
    Trashboat wrote: »
    DWO wrote: »
    Shizlansky wrote: »
    DWO wrote: »
    it just takes discipline...

    just like you can control you rage, you can control your ? ....

    one could argue that murder is natural....it certainly takes place normally in the animal kingdom....but part of conforming to society is to resit your urge to rage out violently anytime you feel like it...

    and while most people chose to resist that urge, most of us personally know a few folk who chose not to.....some walking the streets, some not

    only difference is violence is punishable by law...which is why we find ? like boxing, and mma, and other forms of controlled violence almost as appealing as we find watching ? like porn......

    something about those extreme urges that peaks our interest.....

    while there are many people argue that monogamy isn't natural it's still a choice.....and people make choices on the most favorable outcome.....people who choose to be monogamous do so because they feel that is the best way to accomplish their desired goals in a relatinoship

    Animals ? other animals for food 90% of the time.

    Animals don't ? for fun.

    plenty of animals ? for fun.....all the damn time

    domestic house cats are notorious for this ?

    You said plenty of animals but only gave one example

    Surplus killing has been observed among zooplankton, damselfly naiads, predaceous mites, weasels, honey badgers, wolves, orcas, red foxes, leopards, lions, spotted hyenas, spiders, brown and black and polar bears, coyotes, lynx, mink, raccoons, dogs and house cats.

    "Surplus killing is a common behavior exhibited by predators, in which they ? more prey than they can immediately eat and then cache or abandon the remainder."

    That does not necessarily mean they all do it for fun
  • Rasta.
    Rasta. Members Posts: 9,342 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Trashboat wrote: »
    DWO wrote: »
    Trashboat wrote: »
    DWO wrote: »
    Shizlansky wrote: »
    DWO wrote: »
    it just takes discipline...

    just like you can control you rage, you can control your ? ....

    one could argue that murder is natural....it certainly takes place normally in the animal kingdom....but part of conforming to society is to resit your urge to rage out violently anytime you feel like it...

    and while most people chose to resist that urge, most of us personally know a few folk who chose not to.....some walking the streets, some not

    only difference is violence is punishable by law...which is why we find ? like boxing, and mma, and other forms of controlled violence almost as appealing as we find watching ? like porn......

    something about those extreme urges that peaks our interest.....

    while there are many people argue that monogamy isn't natural it's still a choice.....and people make choices on the most favorable outcome.....people who choose to be monogamous do so because they feel that is the best way to accomplish their desired goals in a relatinoship

    Animals ? other animals for food 90% of the time.

    Animals don't ? for fun.

    plenty of animals ? for fun.....all the damn time

    domestic house cats are notorious for this ?

    You said plenty of animals but only gave one example

    Surplus killing has been observed among zooplankton, damselfly naiads, predaceous mites, weasels, honey badgers, wolves, orcas, red foxes, leopards, lions, spotted hyenas, spiders, brown and black and polar bears, coyotes, lynx, mink, raccoons, dogs and house cats.

    "Surplus killing is a common behavior exhibited by predators, in which they ? more prey than they can immediately eat and then cache or abandon the remainder."

    That does not necessarily mean they all do it for fun

    @Trashboat‌, you should change your name to "Semantics"
  • Empress_
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    Anything which goes against ones natural self is considered "unnatural". To say that monogamy as a whole is "not natural", as often stated, would be considered just as false as saying that it is.

    There are many who if we were to attempt casual relations or promiscuity, it would be a "forced practice" and in my case impossible as physical relations (for myself and many others) are in direct proportion to and an expression of love and having built a connection and foundation far surpassing the flesh. No different than the many who feel they have to force themselves to remain faithful to one.

    The flesh is weak and many choose temptation and desires but it should not be condemned or judged so long as it isn't inflicting pain or harm on others. As long as an individual is practicing their choice with all parties involved being aware, then live as you choose to do so and allow others to do the same with the awareness that energies are in fact transferred and absorbed with any exchange.

    Do whatsoever works and speaks to you.
  • LUClEN
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    Rasta. wrote: »
    Trashboat wrote: »
    DWO wrote: »
    Trashboat wrote: »
    DWO wrote: »
    Shizlansky wrote: »
    DWO wrote: »
    it just takes discipline...

    just like you can control you rage, you can control your ? ....

    one could argue that murder is natural....it certainly takes place normally in the animal kingdom....but part of conforming to society is to resit your urge to rage out violently anytime you feel like it...

    and while most people chose to resist that urge, most of us personally know a few folk who chose not to.....some walking the streets, some not

    only difference is violence is punishable by law...which is why we find ? like boxing, and mma, and other forms of controlled violence almost as appealing as we find watching ? like porn......

    something about those extreme urges that peaks our interest.....

    while there are many people argue that monogamy isn't natural it's still a choice.....and people make choices on the most favorable outcome.....people who choose to be monogamous do so because they feel that is the best way to accomplish their desired goals in a relatinoship

    Animals ? other animals for food 90% of the time.

    Animals don't ? for fun.

    plenty of animals ? for fun.....all the damn time

    domestic house cats are notorious for this ?

    You said plenty of animals but only gave one example

    Surplus killing has been observed among zooplankton, damselfly naiads, predaceous mites, weasels, honey badgers, wolves, orcas, red foxes, leopards, lions, spotted hyenas, spiders, brown and black and polar bears, coyotes, lynx, mink, raccoons, dogs and house cats.

    "Surplus killing is a common behavior exhibited by predators, in which they ? more prey than they can immediately eat and then cache or abandon the remainder."

    That does not necessarily mean they all do it for fun

    @Trashboat‌, you should change your name to "Semantics"

    Lawgic
  • Bussy_Getta
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    Nope. If I love you I'm not sharing.
  • Ajackson17
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    Yes, I prefer the intimate connection and serenity it comes with. Other women add too many problems even if it's cool with all of them.
  • Rasta.
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    Trashboat wrote: »
    Rasta. wrote: »
    Trashboat wrote: »
    DWO wrote: »
    Trashboat wrote: »
    DWO wrote: »
    Shizlansky wrote: »
    DWO wrote: »
    it just takes discipline...

    just like you can control you rage, you can control your ? ....

    one could argue that murder is natural....it certainly takes place normally in the animal kingdom....but part of conforming to society is to resit your urge to rage out violently anytime you feel like it...

    and while most people chose to resist that urge, most of us personally know a few folk who chose not to.....some walking the streets, some not

    only difference is violence is punishable by law...which is why we find ? like boxing, and mma, and other forms of controlled violence almost as appealing as we find watching ? like porn......

    something about those extreme urges that peaks our interest.....

    while there are many people argue that monogamy isn't natural it's still a choice.....and people make choices on the most favorable outcome.....people who choose to be monogamous do so because they feel that is the best way to accomplish their desired goals in a relatinoship

    Animals ? other animals for food 90% of the time.

    Animals don't ? for fun.

    plenty of animals ? for fun.....all the damn time

    domestic house cats are notorious for this ?

    You said plenty of animals but only gave one example

    Surplus killing has been observed among zooplankton, damselfly naiads, predaceous mites, weasels, honey badgers, wolves, orcas, red foxes, leopards, lions, spotted hyenas, spiders, brown and black and polar bears, coyotes, lynx, mink, raccoons, dogs and house cats.

    "Surplus killing is a common behavior exhibited by predators, in which they ? more prey than they can immediately eat and then cache or abandon the remainder."

    That does not necessarily mean they all do it for fun

    @Trashboat‌, you should change your name to "Semantics"

    Lawgic

    Ahhh i see now....but it's okay to step outside that grey area a bit
  • Rasta.
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    MissK wrote: »
    The Iconoclast

    I have been asked this before and initially I thought that I could be okay with my partner having other partners but I am not sure it would work for me. I understand that some men view sex as sex, love as love and can separate the two-that is all well and good if it works for them. I can't do that when in a committed relationship.

    I am open to things, can do a lot of things, but one thing I can't do is be 'new ? ' so if that is what he will always need then it won't work out.

    Plus you know how we Leos do....too much ego!

    What about every now and then and not always?
  • The Iconoclast
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    MissK wrote: »
    The Iconoclast

    I have been asked this before and initially I thought that I could be okay with my partner having other partners but I am not sure it would work for me. I understand that some men view sex as sex, love as love and can separate the two-that is all well and good if it works for them. I can't do that when in a committed relationship.

    I am open to things, can do a lot of things, but one thing I can't do is be 'new ? ' so if that is what he will always need then it won't work out.

    Plus you know how we Leos do....too much ego!

    Yep, I see exactly where you're coming from.
    Well said, I share the same perspective but thinking about it critically always causes me to reevaluate everything I consider a truth or normal. However, at the end of the day due to my emotions and ego I just can't apply everything I theorize about a non-monogamous relationship, to reality.

    Maybe I'll change one day, I don't know but I can honestly say I'm firmly attached to monogamy.

    Haha you're right about that! Leos ftw.