Thee Official Drake vs Meek Mill beef thread
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not_osirus_jenkins wrote: »not_osirus_jenkins wrote: »I don't think ghostwriters have paperwork or credentials or a paper trail. It kinda defeats the point of being a GHOST don't you think?
BUT that doesn't mean everybody uses them tho....
Sorry, nice try
I never said that they did. But in being a ghostwriter you aren't getting credit, or paying taxes on the cash transaction I'd assume. No paper trail. You are literally a ghost. No one knows but the man that knows. If know one knows but the man that knows and neither of you say anything than you cannot for certain say that everybody doesn't use them because you don't know that.
But no one knew Drake had a ghost writer until Meek Mill said something...
Drake probably thought he was being smart by giving QM a couple small credits as a way to give him steady income in the future.
I don't really have a dog in the fight but I don't understand how so many people on this site can just gloss over those reference tracks.
That's some pop diva ? imo
I'm not glancing over them. I understand and I've heard them. If the ? in the studio penned something better than you and you know it, will you leave it off the track? Getting ? cleared through record labels is hell. I'm not in the know but from the few rappers I've talked too and asked why collaborations haven't or don't happen they say it's a money game. I bet dollars to donuts that if drake woulda tried to put any of QM's verses on the track somebody up top would say no, you sound too similar and we don't want the ? that comes with that. Especially if he isn't signed to the parent company. You know just like I know that image is numero uno in this business. -
There's a video of Wayne in the club rapping back to back. Just seen it on fb. Can't post it
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StoneColdMikey wrote: »Meek should've known authenticity in rap wasn't required anymore when his boss was caught lying about being CO and stayed relevant.
How Is lying about your image, the sAme as lying about your craft?
Its like Lebron lying about being a family man vs. Lebron takin steriods, while claiming he's the best in the world....
Ross n others lying About Thier image , is not like drake lying about his craft....
your craft is your craft, your image is your image.
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StoneColdMikey wrote: »Meek should've known authenticity in rap wasn't required anymore when his boss was caught lying about being CO and stayed relevant.
How Is lying about your image, the sAme as lying about your craft?
Its like Lebron lying about being a family man vs. Lebron takin steriods, while claiming he's the best in the world....
Ross n others lying About Thier image , is not like drake lying about his craft....
your craft is your craft, your image is your image.
Ask vanilla ice -
Fake vs "Real".......... Lol and smh at yall saying Meek served garbage............ Nothing new can be said said in the thread, yall ? HIGH-key showed how much yall love Drake....... Drake music is what it is to me..... I'd even call myself a fan of some of his music but the ? riding whether yall think it shows or not is amazing..... This is on that "Lil B can ? my mama cuz he based ? " trolling....... Yall ? weird...... Drake gon make a cape through his ads for you ? lol and smh....... Drake got him with that second diss but if this what yall call beef tell ya girl I said What up.......,, Low key Drake fans in the cut, thats a scary sight....... Meek ? was lackluster but Charged up was too...... ? out here scorin "diss" records like its the NBA Finals best of seven and ? ....... You ? dont know what disses or diss records are....... Congrats on Future and Migos being your favorite rappers right...... Pepsi just called me and told me Drake won........ SHEEP
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I skipped over 154 new posts... anything new happen yet?
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But Ross image is his craft, everything he raps about and all his albums are him believing he is the Real Rick Ross. His an artist putting together art of another mans life and making it like he did all those things.StoneColdMikey wrote: »Meek should've known authenticity in rap wasn't required anymore when his boss was caught lying about being CO and stayed relevant.
How Is lying about your image, the sAme as lying about your craft?
Its like Lebron lying about being a family man vs. Lebron takin steriods, while claiming he's the best in the world....
Ross n others lying About Thier image , is not like drake lying about his craft....
your craft is your craft, your image is your image. -
Yea vanilla ice was a fake. Yet he also didnt write his own ? .Elzo69Renaissance wrote: »StoneColdMikey wrote: »Meek should've known authenticity in rap wasn't required anymore when his boss was caught lying about being CO and stayed relevant.
How Is lying about your image, the sAme as lying about your craft?
Its like Lebron lying about being a family man vs. Lebron takin steriods, while claiming he's the best in the world....
Ross n others lying About Thier image , is not like drake lying about his craft....
your craft is your craft, your image is your image.
Ask vanilla ice
The whole thing started because , vanilla ice aint write ice ice baby, n Didn't pay the writer who was Suges client
Ross got a fake image , but he got the talent, he has the craft.
Same with Milli Vanilli they lacked the craft...
Craft>>>>
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I was listening to that Put It Down by Bun and Drake. Man that hook on that joint is like he wrote it last week. Fits this situation
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But Ross image is his craft, everything he raps about and all his albums are him believing he is the Real Rick Ross. His an artist putting together art of another mans life and making it like he did all those things.StoneColdMikey wrote: »Meek should've known authenticity in rap wasn't required anymore when his boss was caught lying about being CO and stayed relevant.
How Is lying about your image, the sAme as lying about your craft?
Its like Lebron lying about being a family man vs. Lebron takin steriods, while claiming he's the best in the world....
Ross n others lying About Thier image , is not like drake lying about his craft....
your craft is your craft, your image is your image.
At least Ross was putting the art together himself....
I Don't care about Ross life, that's rick ross problem, i am not a dboy, I Don't care.
Im a music Listener, a fan of hiphop for life. i care about the craft. The art Of hiphop.
Ya comparing apple to oranges. Its like an athlete. Any Brand can create a fake image for an athlete. But That athlete still have to have the skills.
Forexample Jeremy lin, tim tebow. them ? was All hype/image no craft..
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So Freeway Rick Ross is the only drug dealer.....ever?
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Also Jeremy Lin wasn't hype with no craft
He was unexpected craft then hype
The heat exposed his ass -
J.J._Evans wrote: »The Nigerians have already made a movie about it.........LOL
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But Ross image is his craft, everything he raps about and all his albums are him believing he is the Real Rick Ross. His an artist putting together art of another mans life and making it like he did all those things.StoneColdMikey wrote: »Meek should've known authenticity in rap wasn't required anymore when his boss was caught lying about being CO and stayed relevant.
How Is lying about your image, the sAme as lying about your craft?
Its like Lebron lying about being a family man vs. Lebron takin steriods, while claiming he's the best in the world....
Ross n others lying About Thier image , is not like drake lying about his craft....
your craft is your craft, your image is your image.
At least Ross was putting the art together himself....
I Don't care about Ross life, that's rick ross problem, i am not a dboy, I Don't care.
Im a music Listener, a fan of hiphop for life. i care about the craft. The art Of hiphop.
Ya comparing apple to oranges. Its like an athlete. Any Brand can create a fake image for an athlete. But That athlete still have to have the skills.
Forexample Jeremy lin, tim tebow. them ? was All hype/image no craft..
But the words they speak is all lies.
Do you care about that part of the craft? -
Smh, Control wasn't a diss. Unless you was included those "you new ? is just new ? " group. But nah nobody who was mentioned responded other than Krit if you want to count Mt. Olympus. (I don't)
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Like I said some pages ago, this is the new format of beefs in HH now that social media actually has a say in it. And this is terrible omen.
ALL these tracks were "meh" at best (Charged Up - total trash, Back 2 Back - Meh, Wanna know - extremely underwhelming), but since mainstream now has a say in it, you'd think Aubs was the most powerful rapper alive right now.
? culture vultures have really ? up the true essence of what a true hip-hop battle is. I think that part is what makes this battle saddest of all. All these corporation piggy-backing the ? in general have no idea who any of these dudes are, but rode the Twitter wave to 10 seconds of extra noticably. This isn't to defend Meek, cause that ? sucked, but C'mon.....the piggy backing for Aubs over the last week has been straight disgusting at times, considering he might not have even wrote that ? .
Hip-Hop is in serious trouble if one of it's greatest features - battling a fellow MC - can't even be sacred anymore. -
BackInWhite wrote: »Also Jeremy Lin wasn't hype with no craft
He was unexpected craft then hype
The heat exposed his ass
He was all hype. he was thrown in The line up,MID SEASON when Melo went Down with injuries.
Opposing Teams didn't Scout him, he Wasn't on there radar ,teams didn't prepare for him. He had a grace period.
By the time he played the heat, his hype Was on fleek. they had him up there with jordan, magic, stockon, clyde frazier ...the heat scouted his game n exposed his ass.
Other teams peeped his weakness from that game, n he never improved, no Craft all hype
what team he play for Again?
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Meek started this ? (on twitter of all places) and came out looking like Larry Holmes
Bet he somewhere kicking himself
Serves him right starting a rap beef without the rap -
Here Yall go with this true essence of hip hop and culture ? .
But Yall go out and listen to trap music and call chronic a classic.
Yall don't even know what the culture is. -
So do you think Drake never wrote anything in his whole career? Isnt part of hip hop being authentic so shouldnt Ross face the same criticism as Drake.
But Ross image is his craft, everything he raps about and all his albums are him believing he is the Real Rick Ross. His an artist putting together art of another mans life and making it like he did all those things.StoneColdMikey wrote: »Meek should've known authenticity in rap wasn't required anymore when his boss was caught lying about being CO and stayed relevant.
How Is lying about your image, the sAme as lying about your craft?
Its like Lebron lying about being a family man vs. Lebron takin steriods, while claiming he's the best in the world....
Ross n others lying About Thier image , is not like drake lying about his craft....
your craft is your craft, your image is your image.
At least Ross was putting the art together himself....
I Don't care about Ross life, that's rick ross problem, i am not a dboy, I Don't care.
Im a music Listener, a fan of hiphop for life. i care about the craft. The art Of hiphop.
Ya comparing apple to oranges. Its like an athlete. Any Brand can create a fake image for an athlete. But That athlete still have to have the skills.
Forexample Jeremy lin, tim tebow. them ? was All hype/image no craft.. -
Shizlansky wrote: »
But Ross image is his craft, everything he raps about and all his albums are him believing he is the Real Rick Ross. His an artist putting together art of another mans life and making it like he did all those things.StoneColdMikey wrote: »Meek should've known authenticity in rap wasn't required anymore when his boss was caught lying about being CO and stayed relevant.
How Is lying about your image, the sAme as lying about your craft?
Its like Lebron lying about being a family man vs. Lebron takin steriods, while claiming he's the best in the world....
Ross n others lying About Thier image , is not like drake lying about his craft....
your craft is your craft, your image is your image.
At least Ross was putting the art together himself....
I Don't care about Ross life, that's rick ross problem, i am not a dboy, I Don't care.
Im a music Listener, a fan of hiphop for life. i care about the craft. The art Of hiphop.
Ya comparing apple to oranges. Its like an athlete. Any Brand can create a fake image for an athlete. But That athlete still have to have the skills.
Forexample Jeremy lin, tim tebow. them ? was All hype/image no craft..
But the words they speak is all lies.
Do you care about that part of the craft?
I listen to music . I don't listen to rappers for truth.
BUT I'll still give a ? bonus points for spitting real ? , that can impact life ..
They're just entertainers. Especially a ? rapping about drugs n ? , like , should i really care about his honesty?
however i do care about the craft. If u out here lying about your life, at least u be the one to craft them lies ya self .
be honest, didn't u lose Respect for Drake, now u know he Don't pen his ? ? -
BackInWhite wrote: »Also Jeremy Lin wasn't hype with no craft
He was unexpected craft then hype
The heat exposed his ass
He was all hype. he was thrown in The line up,MID SEASON when Melo went Down with injuries.
Opposing Teams didn't Scout him, he Wasn't on there radar ,teams didn't prepare for him. He had a grace period.
By the time he played the heat, his hype Was on fleek. they had him up there with jordan, magic, stockon, clyde frazier ...the heat scouted his game n exposed his ass.
Other teams peeped his weakness from that game, n he never improved, no Craft all hype
what team he play for Again?
I think he is still unsigned. He'll make a solid back up. He is atrocious on defense tho -
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T. Sanford wrote: »BackInWhite wrote: »Also Jeremy Lin wasn't hype with no craft
He was unexpected craft then hype
The heat exposed his ass
He was all hype. he was thrown in The line up,MID SEASON when Melo went Down with injuries.
Opposing Teams didn't Scout him, he Wasn't on there radar ,teams didn't prepare for him. He had a grace period.
By the time he played the heat, his hype Was on fleek. they had him up there with jordan, magic, stockon, clyde frazier ...the heat scouted his game n exposed his ass.
Other teams peeped his weakness from that game, n he never improved, no Craft all hype
what team he play for Again?
I think he is still unsigned. He'll make a solid back up. He is atrocious on defense tho
That ? a solid water boy -
Shizlansky wrote: »
But Ross image is his craft, everything he raps about and all his albums are him believing he is the Real Rick Ross. His an artist putting together art of another mans life and making it like he did all those things.StoneColdMikey wrote: »Meek should've known authenticity in rap wasn't required anymore when his boss was caught lying about being CO and stayed relevant.
How Is lying about your image, the sAme as lying about your craft?
Its like Lebron lying about being a family man vs. Lebron takin steriods, while claiming he's the best in the world....
Ross n others lying About Thier image , is not like drake lying about his craft....
your craft is your craft, your image is your image.
At least Ross was putting the art together himself....
I Don't care about Ross life, that's rick ross problem, i am not a dboy, I Don't care.
Im a music Listener, a fan of hiphop for life. i care about the craft. The art Of hiphop.
Ya comparing apple to oranges. Its like an athlete. Any Brand can create a fake image for an athlete. But That athlete still have to have the skills.
Forexample Jeremy lin, tim tebow. them ? was All hype/image no craft..
But the words they speak is all lies.
Do you care about that part of the craft?
I listen to music . I don't listen to rappers for truth.
BUT I'll still give a ? bonus points for spitting real ? , that can impact life ..
They're just entertainers. Especially a ? rapping about drugs n ? , like , should i really care about his honesty?
however i do care about the craft. If u out here lying about your life, at least u be the one to craft them lies ya self .
be honest, didn't u lose Respect for Drake, now u know he Don't pen his ? ?
He did lose some respect from me But he still has the talent. And you can hear it in his songs. Before that verse he got from QM and a flow on cpl songs. The diss records was nice too.
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