A very stupid trending story: SF State Black Student Confronts White Student Over "Dreads"
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DA_Executionah! wrote: »Hey blacks, whites...., ancient India called they want their dreads back.
Return their call and Tell them they are a few thousand years to late -
DA_Executionah! wrote: »Hey blacks, whites...., ancient India called they want their dreads back.
inb4 Asians had Afros before blk ppl. blk ppl learned to get their hair braided from Europeans.... -
Bruh, you almost made me spit my cereal out all over my floor lmao!!! Super throwback. -
This was weak, there is worse videos on worldstar
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Last question. Who personally have ever seen an Indian from India with dreads???
The only indians I see with dreads, are the ones who are half blk, and from the Caribbean, we call em Koolies.
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Last question. Who personally have ever seen an Indian from India with dreads???
The only indians I see with dreads, are the ones who are half blk, and from the Caribbean, we call em Koolies.
The style there is intertwined with spiritual
Practice and understanding.
It's not just for ? to sport,
Like it is in America.
It's primarily reserved for Sadhus.
Exactly like it is for Jamaican Rastafari.
You can actually Google it and see them for
Yourself. -
Y'all act like devout Christians.
Next y'all gon say
Rasta is older than Hinduism.
How many American blacks
Were rockin dreads before Marley
Started touring? If anything,
People, regardless of race, tied to no form
Of spiritual discipline are the
Real appropriators. That's my point.
In no way am I saying India "invented"
Locks (mostly everything has its roots
In Africa)
but the fact is Rasta was inspired
By them. And now people want to claim
Something they have no knowledge of. -
Last question. Who personally have ever seen an Indian from India with dreads???
The only indians I see with dreads, are the ones who are half blk, and from the Caribbean, we call em Koolies.
The style there is intertwined with spiritual
Practice and understanding.
It's not just for ? to sport,
Like it is in America.
It's primarily reserved for Sadhus.
Exactly like it is for Jamaican Rastafari.
You can actually Google it and see them for
Yourself.
Dude I posted pics of Ancient Africans with dreads...Y'all act like devout Christians.
Next y'all gon say
Rasta is older than Hinduism.
How many American blacks
Were rockin dreads before Marley
Started touring? If anything,
People, regardless of race, tied to no form
Of spiritual discipline are the
Real appropriators. That's my point.
In no way am I saying India "invented"
Locks (mostly everything has its roots
In Africa)
but the fact is Rasta was inspired
By them. And now people want to claim
Something they have no knowledge of.
? im talking about Afrixans did it first.
U even admitted it. Then what's with the back n forth?
And by the way. how many Indians, from India have u personally seen with dreads?
And then compare them by the many Blks U see with locs. -
How can you compare the amount of people today wearing locs versus people in ancient times?
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Yo did this ? really get called a street rat? Im dyin
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babelipsss wrote: »How can you compare the amount of people today wearing locs versus people in ancient times?
It part of their culture right?.. most Africans still have traditions they did in ancient times .
U said Indians did it first. Okay where they at?
"But but ancient times."
I on the other hand, say ? did it first...And guess what?
They still doing it.
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If you talk to a Rastafarian they won't mention ? about Hinduism they will tell you about the nazareth vow or quote from the bible. The use of hindu words in Rastafarian vernacular doesn't mean Rastafarian spirituality or culture was inspired by Hinduism.
They will tell you about prophet gad and Marcus garvey even the names of the major sects of rasta should lead you to the source of Rastafarian spiritual beliefs/ origins. -
? im talking about Afrixans did it first.
U even admitted it. Then what's with the back n forth?.
Ask yourself.
The only thing I said was that Rastafari
Took a lot from the Hindus that were in Jamaica, including
The wearing of locks as part of their spiritual understanding..
Not that Locks started in India.
Ya'll coming at me with all this other ? .And by the way. how many Indians, from India have u personally seen with dreads?
And then compare them by the many Blks U see with locs.
lol I don't know as many Sadhus in America
As blacks in America. That doesn't mean much of anything, though.
Just that I'm in America, not India. -
If you talk to a Rastafarian they won't mention ? about Hinduism they will tell you about the nazareth vow or quote from the bible. The use of hindu words in Rastafarian vernacular doesn't mean Rastafarian spirituality or culture was inspired by Hinduism.
They will tell you about prophet gad and Marcus garvey even the names of the major sects of rasta should lead you to the source of Rastafarian spiritual beliefs/ origins.
Leonard Percival Howell (June 16, 1898 – February 25, 1981), known as The Gong or G.G. Maragh (for Gong Guru), was a Jamaican religious figure. According to his biographer Hélène Lee, Howell was born in an Anglican family. He was one of the first preachers of the Rastafari movement (along with Joseph Hibbert, Archibald Dunkley, and Robert Hinds), and is sometimes known as The First Rasta.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_Howell
You tell me where the word "guru"
And the name "Maragh" come from???
And then explain this:
A chillum, or chilam, is a straight conical pipe with end-to-end channel, traditionally made of clay and
used since at least the eighteenth century by sadhus in India.
In "reasoning sessions" and grounations, the ritual chillum used is made of a cow's horn or conical wood piece, fitted with a long drawtube giving the smoke time to cool before inhalation.
A ? -like chillum equipped with a water filtration chamber is sometimes referred to as a chalice, based on a quote from the Biblical book of Deuteronomy. Thanks and praises are offered to Jah before smoking the chillum.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chillum_(pipe)
So, now we all know that one of Rasta rituals
Come straight from Indian Sadhus. Hm.
Look, I know that Judaism has also influenced Rasta
And the Bible is quoted a lot to support their views
But it's not the only influence... -
I on the other hand, say ? did it first...And guess what?
They still doing it.
https://www.google.com/search?q=india+sadhu&biw=1440&bih=805&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiUsKOshPTLAhVJGh4KHcx9DqIQ_AUIBigB
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Once again the use of a word from another language doesn't prove anything. English has words from many different cultures.
Also @Bodhi you are using a logical fallacy because correlation doesn't equal causation native Americans also have a similar smoking rituals does that mean rastafarians got that from them???
You are right Judaism isn't the only influence the other influence is African culture and the Jamaican slave experience the only thing Rastafarianism and Hinduism have in common is smoking weed and the use of a few words that is it -
Once again the use of a word from another language doesn't prove anything. English has words from many different cultures.
Also @Bodhi you are using a logical fallacy because correlation doesn't equal causation native Americans also have a similar smoking rituals does that mean rastafarians got that from them???
Are you slow?
They're doing the exact same thing
For the exact same reason
Using the exact same terms.
That's not the same thing as some French
Or Germanic words
Finding their way into American English.
Native Americans have nothing to do with this
But if Rasta were doing Native rituals using
Native terms and ideology, I would have to say so. But they're not.
So I don't.You are right Judaism isn't the only influence the other influence is African culture and the Jamaican slave experience the only thing Rastafarianism and Hinduism have in common is smoking weed and the use of a few words that is it
Nah, it's deeper than that.
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By the way, I thought you said I was trolling you?
Do you really believe that
Or were you just unable to provide any evidence contrary
To what I was explaining to you a few posts ago?
@zzombie
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It makes no sense to point to India for the origin of locs in Jamaica because black Jamaicans were believers in the bible before east Indians came to Jamaica so black Jamaicans would have known about the nazareth vow and it's ban on cutting hair and since black hair dreads naturally trying to create a connection to India is ridiculous.
This is culture vulture nonsense at it's finest an American convert to Buddhism is giving his view on the origins of a Jamaican subculture that he thinks was influenced by Hinduism. Despite Jamaicans telling him otherwise he continues making his fallacious unsubstantiated and weak argument -
By the way, I thought you said I was trolling you?
Do you really believe that
Or were you just unable to provide any evidence contrary
To what I was explaining to you a few posts ago?
@zzombie
I told you I wasn't in the mood for your nonsense and that was days ago you explained nothing you were spreading nonsense like you usually do -
It makes no sense to point to India for the origin of locs in Jamaica because black Jamaicans were believers in the bible before east Indians came to Jamaica so black Jamaicans would have known about the nazareth vow and it's ban on cutting hair and since black hair dreads naturally trying to create a connection to India is ridiculous.
Plenty other cultures and races of people follow the Bible
But don't have locks. Those vows don't apply
To anybody in modern time.
Rastafari only cite those verses because they back up
Their religion. Just like the verses they use to justify the use of ?
As a spiritual practice. Every denomination cherry picks
Verses to support their beliefs. Like,
the Bible also says long hair is a shame to a man. Anybody else
could use that as justification not to wear locks.
The only difference is Rasta were influenced also by the Sadhus
in Jamaica at the time of its inception. So
They wear locks like they did. And for the same EXACT reasons. By the way,Leonard Percival Howell (June 16, 1898 – February 25, 1981), known as The Gong or G.G. Maragh (for Gong Guru), was a Jamaican religious figure. According to his biographer Hélène Lee, Howell was born in an Anglican family. He was one of the first preachers of the Rastafari movement (along with Joseph Hibbert, Archibald Dunkley, and Robert Hinds), and is sometimes known as The First Rasta.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_Howell
You tell me where the word "guru"
And the name "Maragh" come from???
And then explain this:
A chillum, or chilam, is a straight conical pipe with end-to-end channel, traditionally made of clay and
used since at least the eighteenth century by sadhus in India.
In "reasoning sessions" and grounations, the ritual chillum used is made of a cow's horn or conical wood piece, fitted with a long drawtube giving the smoke time to cool before inhalation.
A ? -like chillum equipped with a water filtration chamber is sometimes referred to as a chalice, based on a quote from the Biblical book of Deuteronomy. Thanks and praises are offered to Jah before smoking the chillum.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chillum_(pipe)American convert to Buddhism is giving his view on the origins of a Jamaican subculture that he thinks was influenced by Hinduism.
ad hominem -
It makes no sense to point to India for the origin of locs in Jamaica because black Jamaicans were believers in the bible before east Indians came to Jamaica so black Jamaicans would have known about the nazareth vow and it's ban on cutting hair and since black hair dreads naturally trying to create a connection to India is ridiculous.
Plenty other cultures and races of people follow the Bible
But don't have locks. Rastafari only cite those verses because they back up
Their religion. Just like the verses they use to justify the use of ?
As a spiritual practice. But
the Bible also says long hair is a shame to a man. Anybody else
could use that as justification not to wear locks.
The only difference is Rasta were influenced also by the Sadhus
in Jamaica at the time of its inception. So
They wear locks like they did. And for the same EXACT reasons. By the way,Leonard Percival Howell (June 16, 1898 – February 25, 1981), known as The Gong or G.G. Maragh (for Gong Guru), was a Jamaican religious figure. According to his biographer Hélène Lee, Howell was born in an Anglican family. He was one of the first preachers of the Rastafari movement (along with Joseph Hibbert, Archibald Dunkley, and Robert Hinds), and is sometimes known as The First Rasta.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_Howell
You tell me where the word "guru"
And the name "Maragh" come from???
And then explain this:
A chillum, or chilam, is a straight conical pipe with end-to-end channel, traditionally made of clay and
used since at least the eighteenth century by sadhus in India.
In "reasoning sessions" and grounations, the ritual chillum used is made of a cow's horn or conical wood piece, fitted with a long drawtube giving the smoke time to cool before inhalation.
A ? -like chillum equipped with a water filtration chamber is sometimes referred to as a chalice, based on a quote from the Biblical book of Deuteronomy. Thanks and praises are offered to Jah before smoking the chillum.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chillum_(pipe)This is culture vulture nonsense at it's finest an American convert to Buddhism is giving his view on the origins of a Jamaican subculture that he thinks was influenced by Hinduism.
ad hominem
You have no proof that Rastafarian beliefs were influenced by Hinduism. Rastafarianism isn't Judaism so naturally they don't follow Judaism totally and only believe in certain aspects of it.
In this they are no different from Christians. each Rasta sect wears locs for different reasons none of which has anything to do with Hinduism.
Some have locs to imitate a lion, which is considered a royal animal. Some have them because they believe rasta comes from the nazareth vow. Other have them because they believe in living as naturally as possible and locs are the natural state of hair. -
..And now you are? -
I am in the mood to dispel ignorance
