Fkin' Dominicans, Have They No Fkin' Shame?
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Enriquillo wrote: »Swiffness! wrote: »If Haiti's 19th century attempts to conquer the Dominicans had gone better............. oh well.
It couldn't have gone worse for the Haitians. They could barely win one battle against a bunch of Dominican cattleranchers. We had no real army, and they outnumbered us like 10 to 1, yet we still kicked their ? and sent them back to their (smaller, drier) side of the island. They even tried to sneak in with ships, and we sunk all their vessels. Now if things would have turned out differently, DR would look just like Haiti, and that would suck.
Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxieK9KF0j8
Port Au Prince, Haiti
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKURIuaixvE
Everybody knows the history. Haitians kicked ass. Even Napoleon. Haitians even gave the warning and were honest in telling the foreigners to get off the island and leave or else they would be killed. They ruled for about 22 years. Who the ? you think you're talking to? Haitians took over the whole damn island. Dominicans went crying to Spain to beg for help. Spain sent back in their military along with the help of other European nations and EVEN America joined in by embargoing all trade and exports from the entire island until Spain regained control. The French were all too willing to help since Napoleon was sour about losing. America told every nation if they traded with Haiti then it wouldn't do business with them ever. The reason they did this was they feared blacks in America rising up and revolting on plantations the way the Haitians did.
I"m really not talking to enriquillo-since folks like him obviously aren't in touch with what international history has written on that account. Let stupid be dumb.
Haiti didn't really win. They got the French out. Then the revolution happened. When France came back though Haiti had to bend to their demands which put them in near insurmountable debt. A real winner doesn't end up with the loser's foot on their throat. -
Enriquillo wrote: »Swiffness! wrote: »If Haiti's 19th century attempts to conquer the Dominicans had gone better............. oh well.
It couldn't have gone worse for the Haitians. They could barely win one battle against a bunch of Dominican cattleranchers. We had no real army, and they outnumbered us like 10 to 1, yet we still kicked their ? and sent them back to their (smaller, drier) side of the island. They even tried to sneak in with ships, and we sunk all their vessels. Now if things would have turned out differently, DR would look just like Haiti, and that would suck.
Santo Domingo, Dominican Republichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxieK9KF0j8
Port Au Prince, Haitihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKURIuaixvE
Everybody knows the history. Haitians kicked ass. Even Napoleon. Haitians even gave the warning and were honest in telling the foreigners to get off the island and leave or else they would be killed. They ruled for about 22 years. Who the ? you think you're talking to? Haitians took over the whole damn island. Dominicans went crying to Spain to beg for help. Spain sent back in their military along with the help of other European nations and EVEN America joined in by embargoing all trade and exports from the entire island until Spain regained control. The French were all too willing to help since Napoleon was sour about losing. America told every nation if they traded with Haiti then it wouldn't do business with them ever. The reason they did this was they feared blacks in America rising up and revolting on plantations the way the Haitians did.
I"m really not talking to enriquillo-since folks like him obviously aren't in touch with what international history has written on that account. Let stupid be dumb.
Haiti didn't really win. They got the French out. Then the revolution happened. When France came back though Haiti had to bend to their demands which put them in near insurmountable debt. A real winner doesn't end up with the loser's foot on their throat.
They kicked the French out with the revolution
It was until 1825 (at this time Haiti was controlling the eastern part of the island and was ruled by mulattos) France demanded money -
Enriquillo wrote: »Swiffness! wrote: »If Haiti's 19th century attempts to conquer the Dominicans had gone better............. oh well.
It couldn't have gone worse for the Haitians. They could barely win one battle against a bunch of Dominican cattleranchers. We had no real army, and they outnumbered us like 10 to 1, yet we still kicked their ? and sent them back to their (smaller, drier) side of the island. They even tried to sneak in with ships, and we sunk all their vessels. Now if things would have turned out differently, DR would look just like Haiti, and that would suck.
Santo Domingo, Dominican Republichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxieK9KF0j8
Port Au Prince, Haitihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKURIuaixvE
Everybody knows the history. Haitians kicked ass. Even Napoleon. Haitians even gave the warning and were honest in telling the foreigners to get off the island and leave or else they would be killed. They ruled for about 22 years. Who the ? you think you're talking to? Haitians took over the whole damn island. Dominicans went crying to Spain to beg for help. Spain sent back in their military along with the help of other European nations and EVEN America joined in by embargoing all trade and exports from the entire island until Spain regained control. The French were all too willing to help since Napoleon was sour about losing. America told every nation if they traded with Haiti then it wouldn't do business with them ever. The reason they did this was they feared blacks in America rising up and revolting on plantations the way the Haitians did.
I"m really not talking to enriquillo-since folks like him obviously aren't in touch with what international history has written on that account. Let stupid be dumb.
Haiti didn't really win. They got the French out. Then the revolution happened. When France came back though Haiti had to bend to their demands which put them in near insurmountable debt. A real winner doesn't end up with the loser's foot on their throat.
They kicked the French out with the revolution
It was until 1825 (at this time Haiti was controlling the eastern part of the island and was ruled by mulattos) France demanded money
I meant the French revolution. France would have come back sooner were it not for their nation imploding -
Enriquillo wrote: »Swiffness! wrote: »If Haiti's 19th century attempts to conquer the Dominicans had gone better............. oh well.
It couldn't have gone worse for the Haitians. They could barely win one battle against a bunch of Dominican cattleranchers. We had no real army, and they outnumbered us like 10 to 1, yet we still kicked their ? and sent them back to their (smaller, drier) side of the island. They even tried to sneak in with ships, and we sunk all their vessels. Now if things would have turned out differently, DR would look just like Haiti, and that would suck.
Santo Domingo, Dominican Republichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxieK9KF0j8
Port Au Prince, Haitihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKURIuaixvE
Everybody knows the history. Haitians kicked ass. Even Napoleon. Haitians even gave the warning and were honest in telling the foreigners to get off the island and leave or else they would be killed. They ruled for about 22 years. Who the ? you think you're talking to? Haitians took over the whole damn island. Dominicans went crying to Spain to beg for help. Spain sent back in their military along with the help of other European nations and EVEN America joined in by embargoing all trade and exports from the entire island until Spain regained control. The French were all too willing to help since Napoleon was sour about losing. America told every nation if they traded with Haiti then it wouldn't do business with them ever. The reason they did this was they feared blacks in America rising up and revolting on plantations the way the Haitians did.
I"m really not talking to enriquillo-since folks like him obviously aren't in touch with what international history has written on that account. Let stupid be dumb.
Haiti didn't really win. They got the French out. Then the revolution happened. When France came back though Haiti had to bend to their demands which put them in near insurmountable debt. A real winner doesn't end up with the loser's foot on their throat.
In a war of attrition getting your enemy out is winning. -
Black people listen if you have not figured it out by now so called Hispanic people are not our friends and that includes people like LUClEN who has the ? nerve to come in here and try to disrespect the victory that was the Haitian revolution
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Enriquillo wrote: »You didn't address any of my points and keep rambling on about defeating a weak Haiti . Jut what I'd expect from a stupid Dominicoon . First off not African American. Where my fan from we let you tatos clean up after us and use you as but rags lmao. Nothing is impressive about the DR at all. You all have produced nothing to add to the human experience. Your nation is full of ? ? tragic mulattos and ? .
You where too much of a ? to mention the craphole country where your family comes from. I know you're not an African-American, I just decided to ? on them again for the hell of it.lol You should tell me where exactly is your "fan" from, so I can respond to your ? accordingly. I'm sure you're not a Puerto Rican and outside of Puerto Rico, which is used as a gateway to the USA, there is no significant Dominican presence in any other Caribbean islands. And these days there are more Haitians migrating to Puerto Rico than Dominicans. Here is a video of the Dominican Navy capturing some dustyass Haitian boatpeople trying to migrate to PR.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoIHVEMkr1k
And since you brought up the topic of ? , here's a video on child prostitution in Haiti.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bXZEJjkt4g
And another video on child Slavery in Haiti.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94qWLBWagLIYou call African Americans an under class yet Dominicans are below them the US. The only you all are good at is sucking ? for dollars euros or florin. But congrats on your great accomplishments of rejoining your slave masters Spain.
Y'all should be happy African Americans are kind enough to spend money on your women or you wouldn't even have Internet primo jajaja
Cocolos and Haitian ? are good at sucking ? , though I wouldn't ? these nappy-headed ? even if they paid me for it. They're part of the under-class of the DR just like African-Americans are the under-class of the USA. The majority of streetwalker prostitutes in Sosua, Boca Chica, Terrenas, etc. are some ugly raggedy-ass looking Haitians and Cocolos, we call them "grillos" or crickets. The average Dominican wouldn't touch these ? with a ten-foot pole. But black Americans have no standards, so they pay money to have sex with the absolute lowest rung of women in this country. They rather ? these nasty ? , since African-American women are even uglier and look like fat Gorillas in heat.
You morons know very little of DR, all you know about is getting cheap ? in coastal areas, Black Americans contribute nothing to the tourism industry. DR receives millions of NON-BLACK North American, South American, European, Asian, and Middle-Eastern tourists every year who visit various parts of the country. In terms of historal landmarks, architecture, urbanism, nightlife, natural landscapes, cultural attractions, regional diversity, etc. DR is superior to most of the region. DR competes more with continental Latin-American countries for tourists, we're only surpassed by giants like Mexico, Brazil, Argentina in tourism dollars. we receive by far more tourists than any other Caribbean country. ? , we get more tourists in ONE MONTH than Haiti does in a whole year.
In terms of architectural attractions, DR has the FIRST European city in the New World with buildings and landmarks that date back to the 1500s to the 1800s. But of course ? aren't interested in ? like that. I don't see no African-Americans around these parts.
Santo Domingo mixes the classic and new, not only do we have the oldest architecture in the Western Hemisphere but we also have the most modern city in the Caribbean region in terms of infrastructure, with the tallest skyscrapers in the region.
DR not only has the tallest buildings in the Caribbean, but also the highest mountains in the Caribbean. Pico Duarte is taller than any mountain the Eastern region of the US and rises over 10,000 feet above sea level. DR has the most varied landscapes and climate zones in the Caribbean region.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CG9s3xrP7g
This ? is an emotional ? made hoe......
? dropped a whole magazine article about nothing complete with pictures and still....
And yet......
My ? ....
Nobody gives a ? .....
You ? are ? because we say you're ? ....and that's the way it is B.
Deal with it. -
Black people listen if you have not figured it out by now so called Hispanic people are not our friends and that includes people like LUClEN who has the ? nerve to come in here and try to disrespect the victory that was the Haitian revolution
If it was such a victory then why did Haiti end up so indebted to the French? America never endured even half of what Haiti did after they won independence -
That picture about tourism is misleading. DR is the most popular largely because it's cheap. Cuba was off limits to Americans for decades which drove up tourism to DR. Notice how the Bahamas, the richest Caribbean nation, has the least amount of tourism? It's because it's expensive af and more developed than DR and Cuba combined
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Black people listen if you have not figured it out by now so called Hispanic people are not our friends and that includes people like LUClEN who has the ? nerve to come in here and try to disrespect the victory that was the Haitian revolution
If it was such a victory then why did Haiti end up so indebted to the French? America never endured even half of what Haiti did after they won independence
? YOU ? .
Haiti won the war what happens after the war is another matter the usa HAD a whole continent to exploit after the revolution and the support of other European nations. WHAT the Haitians did was even more extraordinary because they had the whole white world against them and nobody really supported them
? YOU ? . -
Cuba is going to dominate tourism when they open up to American business/tourism
The Caribbean needs to diversify our bonds -
The point is that at some point in the DR nobody was mixed. Folks might wanna read that former line again. The point is that at some point in the DR nobody was mixed. Here's the MATH
Let me do a DAMN TIMELINE: Timeline is based from 1492-1900 This includes the French and Spaniards (even though it is noted the Spaniards were more willing to ? Africans than the French)
-So if the beginning was 1492 when Columbus arrived then he didn't come in that year and takeover the island in one day
-The island was still all Taino or indigenous in 1492 to let's say 1550. (It took damn a year to even travel on boat from Spain to Dominican)
-So by the 1600's Spaniards let's say had numbers around 1500 people 98% white male(make up what ever estimate--maybe it was 2,000 spaniards-either way the percent rate versus African and Indigenous will still be somewhat parallel to the point I am about to make) to go to divide in Hispaniola, Puerto Rico and Cuba, Jamaica.When he returned in 1493 he found all his colonists killed by the indigenous. He didn't return again till 1498. Anyways, main point is there was only even on the 1498 visit the division of spaniards to all those islands only a number of around 200 colonists per island. That's not outnumbering the indigenous and the Spaniards didn't immediately ? the indigenous. It wasn't till 1502 he had 4 ships and then his ass couldn't find Hispaniola again and ended up in Honduras. So again NO NUMBERS for WHITE BLOOD.
-So by the 1650's or 1670's Spaniards have control and bring in African Slaves in numbers. (Africans probably arrived before 1670 but I'm talking slavery and the actual numbers needed)***During this time Spaniards and French males continued to come, but they were also going to stay in france and spain and only a small percent was left to go to puerto rico, DR, cuba,mexico,panama, colombia,etcetera****So all that mixing of white spaniards being equal to the mixing of AFrican and Indigenous isn't logical to say it was at the same RATE if there were no WHITE WOMEN and only a small percentage of Spaniards and French were could even make it to the DR (versus the other who went to all the other islands). There's only so many whites to go around who were getting on those boats to go to like 20 different countries at this time.
So we have to assume Africans probably outnumbered everyone.
-1635 to like 1720 a ton of Africans were brought through the island of Santo Domingo because it was a port for transporting slaves to other islands. So we can say Africans far outnumbered the indigenous and the french males and spaniard males (since there were roughly close to barely any,any,any mulattoes existing above the age of 25. Not old enough or numerous enough in the early 1600's to identify as mulatto)
-So by 1700s African males and women were there with Spaniards (98%males only) andFRench
-So by 1700s the indigenous were outnumbered and overpowered and on their way to mixing or miscegenating to such a degree that they basically didn't exist anymore in the form of their original race. This complete assimilation worked in favor of increasing the mulatto or half breed-numbers.
-So by 1750 African males needed someone to ? to create more slaves so Spaniards mixed the Indigenous women with the African males and from these offspring the Spaniards (with barely-no WHITE women of their own began also ? the offspring of indigenous Indians and the Africans)
-AROUND 1720-1800 arised the birth of the mulattoes in the Dominican. Identity formed and the acknowledgment and separation from Africans and pure White Europeans manifested to a degree of dealing with mulattoes as an individual race.According to a timeline based on something this has to be somewhat accurate. I'm not saying mulattoes didn't exist in 1493, I'm just staying Columbus got there in 1492 and his men of around 40 whites realistically probably only had about 20 babies if that many. 20 babies ain't enough to continue the mulatto race to vast numbers, so that's why I put there numbers and true existence as far as having an identity and separation from Africans and White Europeans around 1720-1800.(Unless someone can prove Columbus was there before 1492)
-Around 1800-1900 (I"m stretching the truth a little, but it is a truth)mass genocides killed off many darker looking Dominicans and some Haitians and the races left over considered their identity as white/lighter skin and therefore by their own SELECTION bred with the lightest and continued doing this, thus giving a lighter skin based on mulatto.
-So my point is this for these mulattoes????? At some point you didn't exist and when you did exist you didn't immediately rule. So time and who got the power was simply divided on two lines: One- the Indigenous mixing with Africans and Two-the Whites ? the offspring of both and determining who to pass the power onto.
It's not like the mulatto was always existent and there, so at some point they were adopted for a reason to serve the Whiter skin of the original conquerors of that island.
-Doing the math one sees that there were probably more African women brought than Spaniard women, Definitely more African men than WHITE women, So if African men and women (+) Indigenous men and women (+) outnumber (-) the French and Spaniard men then math shows a percentage. (But what do I know. I know over the past 200 years many nationalities and races have entered the D.R.-so now it is different.) But if you take my math and stop at 1900 that's what you get. Africans males ? the indigenous. African women ? African men. African women were ? by Spaniard men and French men. Spaniard men ? the Africans. Mulattoes were created. Africans ? mulattoes created more slaves while Africans continued to be imported. Something doesn't add up??? -
Something is seriously wrong with this dude's perspective if he can give a super power nation working also with the financing and military support of other super power European Nations-and this guy gives them (France) the excuse that France was imploding and this is why a group of slaves with no trained military and outgunned and have no political or economic power could overcome and kick the French and Spanish off the island for 22 years. Damn, that's a perfect example of how far he sympathizes with France to still play like them being beat and kicked out for 22 years only happened because they had some financial problems. What about SLAVES financial problems ? ????Enriquillo wrote: »Swiffness! wrote: »If Haiti's 19th century attempts to conquer the Dominicans had gone better............. oh well.
It couldn't have gone worse for the Haitians. They could barely win one battle against a bunch of Dominican cattleranchers. We had no real army, and they outnumbered us like 10 to 1, yet we still kicked their ? and sent them back to their (smaller, drier) side of the island. They even tried to sneak in with ships, and we sunk all their vessels. Now if things would have turned out differently, DR would look just like Haiti, and that would suck.
Santo Domingo, Dominican Republichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxieK9KF0j8
Port Au Prince, Haitihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKURIuaixvE
Everybody knows the history. Haitians kicked ass. Even Napoleon. Haitians even gave the warning and were honest in telling the foreigners to get off the island and leave or else they would be killed. They ruled for about 22 years. Who the ? you think you're talking to? Haitians took over the whole damn island. Dominicans went crying to Spain to beg for help. Spain sent back in their military along with the help of other European nations and EVEN America joined in by embargoing all trade and exports from the entire island until Spain regained control. The French were all too willing to help since Napoleon was sour about losing. America told every nation if they traded with Haiti then it wouldn't do business with them ever. The reason they did this was they feared blacks in America rising up and revolting on plantations the way the Haitians did.
I"m really not talking to enriquillo-since folks like him obviously aren't in touch with what international history has written on that account. Let stupid be dumb.
Haiti didn't really win. They got the French out. Then the revolution happened. When France came back though Haiti had to bend to their demands which put them in near insurmountable debt. A real winner doesn't end up with the loser's foot on their throat.
They kicked the French out with the revolution
It was until 1825 (at this time Haiti was controlling the eastern part of the island and was ruled by mulattos) France demanded money
I meant the French revolution. France would have come back sooner were it not for their nation imploding
France was invading many places besides Haiti, but for unarmed slaves to go against multiple European nations and win and have control for 22 years and continue trade and distribute and restructure an economy without other European/American nations knowing for years THAT was a MAJOR victory.
Even Egypt hasn't been able to keep its economy as steady as that immediately after overthrowing their own President years ago.
By 1803 Napoleon was ready to get Haiti off his back: he and Toussaint agreed to terms of peace. Napoleon agreed to recognize Haitian independence and Toussaint agreed to retire from public life. A few months later, the French invited Toussaint to come to a negotiating meeting will full safe conduct. When he arrived, the French (at Napoleon's orders) betrayed the safe conduct and arrested him, putting him on a ship headed for France. Napoleon ordered that Toussaint be placed in a prison dungeon in the mountains, and murdered by means of cold, starvation, and neglect. Toussaint died in prison, but others carried on the fight for freedom.
Main point is (and since I'm going off my own knowledge of 10 years ago it might be a little hazy in some aspects, but basically:) Haiti took over the whole island. Haitians broke bread and peace with mulattoes but the mulattoes did not like the Haitian religion and were fearful of losing their status and perceived hierarchy that was color based. Mulattoes sought Spain and the French's help. America, Spain, France and I can't remember the other European nations got together to work out a peace to include Haiti (trick Haiti) in order to protect their investments and collectively went to war again with Haiti. The mulattoes knew from the talks with Spain and France that they would be given the country and the Spaniards and French would leave again (for this time by choice) when the war was over. The Spaniards and French won the war and they were too slow leaving and wanted to keep ? and that's when Trujillo and his team of mulattoes and some black Dominicans collectively got together and effectively kicked out the remaining White conquerors and took sovereign control over the land, or somewhat sovereign, because they continued to want to bend over for Spain and allow Spain to basically own them.
Now onto another point. I've been to Aruba, Grand Cayman Islands, Panama, Costa Rica and I've seen the Dominicans there and yes they are always in very subserviant positions. Puerto Ricans, Cubans, Colombians often refer to Dominicans as the black latinos.
If you don't wanna be black ? it you're not black. I don't give a ? and definitely don't want to claim you and don't want you claiming any part of my history. -
Black people listen if you have not figured it out by now so called Hispanic people are not our friends and that includes people like LUClEN who has the ? nerve to come in here and try to disrespect the victory that was the Haitian revolution
If it was such a victory then why did Haiti end up so indebted to the French? America never endured even half of what Haiti did after they won independence
? YOU ? .
Haiti won the war what happens after the war is another matter the usa HAD a whole continent to exploit after the revolution and the support of other European nations. WHAT the Haitians did was even more extraordinary because they had the whole white world against them and nobody really supported them
? YOU ? .
Yet they were still squashed by debt and the threat of reinslavement afterwards
Your hurt feelings don't change that.
Spics > Haitians. -
Something is seriously wrong with this dude's perspective if he can give a super power nation working also with the financing and military support of other super power European Nations-and this guy gives them (France) the excuse that France was imploding and this is why a group of slaves with no trained military and outgunned and have no political or economic power could overcome and kick the French and Spanish off the island for 22 years. Damn, that's a perfect example of how far he sympathizes with France to still play like them being beat and kicked out for 22 years only happened because they had some financial problems. What about SLAVES financial problems ? ????Enriquillo wrote: »Swiffness! wrote: »If Haiti's 19th century attempts to conquer the Dominicans had gone better............. oh well.
It couldn't have gone worse for the Haitians. They could barely win one battle against a bunch of Dominican cattleranchers. We had no real army, and they outnumbered us like 10 to 1, yet we still kicked their ? and sent them back to their (smaller, drier) side of the island. They even tried to sneak in with ships, and we sunk all their vessels. Now if things would have turned out differently, DR would look just like Haiti, and that would suck.
Santo Domingo, Dominican Republichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxieK9KF0j8
Port Au Prince, Haitihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKURIuaixvE
Everybody knows the history. Haitians kicked ass. Even Napoleon. Haitians even gave the warning and were honest in telling the foreigners to get off the island and leave or else they would be killed. They ruled for about 22 years. Who the ? you think you're talking to? Haitians took over the whole damn island. Dominicans went crying to Spain to beg for help. Spain sent back in their military along with the help of other European nations and EVEN America joined in by embargoing all trade and exports from the entire island until Spain regained control. The French were all too willing to help since Napoleon was sour about losing. America told every nation if they traded with Haiti then it wouldn't do business with them ever. The reason they did this was they feared blacks in America rising up and revolting on plantations the way the Haitians did.
I"m really not talking to enriquillo-since folks like him obviously aren't in touch with what international history has written on that account. Let stupid be dumb.
Haiti didn't really win. They got the French out. Then the revolution happened. When France came back though Haiti had to bend to their demands which put them in near insurmountable debt. A real winner doesn't end up with the loser's foot on their throat.
They kicked the French out with the revolution
It was until 1825 (at this time Haiti was controlling the eastern part of the island and was ruled by mulattos) France demanded money
I meant the French revolution. France would have come back sooner were it not for their nation imploding
France was invading many places besides Haiti, but for unarmed slaves to go against multiple European nations and win and have control for 22 years and continue trade and distribute and restructure an economy without other European/American nations knowing for years THAT was a MAJOR victory.
Even Egypt hasn't been able to keep its economy as steady as that immediately after overthrowing their own President years ago.
By 1803 Napoleon was ready to get Haiti off his back: he and Toussaint agreed to terms of peace. Napoleon agreed to recognize Haitian independence and Toussaint agreed to retire from public life. A few months later, the French invited Toussaint to come to a negotiating meeting will full safe conduct. When he arrived, the French (at Napoleon's orders) betrayed the safe conduct and arrested him, putting him on a ship headed for France. Napoleon ordered that Toussaint be placed in a prison dungeon in the mountains, and murdered by means of cold, starvation, and neglect. Toussaint died in prison, but others carried on the fight for freedom.
Main point is (and since I'm going off my own knowledge of 10 years ago it might be a little hazy in some aspects, but basically:) Haiti took over the whole island. Haitians broke bread and peace with mulattoes but the mulattoes did not like the Haitian religion and were fearful of losing their status and perceived hierarchy that was color based. Mulattoes sought Spain and the French's help. America, Spain, France and I can't remember the other European nations got together to work out a peace to include Haiti (trick Haiti) in order to protect their investments and collectively went to war again with Haiti. The mulattoes knew from the talks with Spain and France that they would be given the country and the Spaniards and French would leave again (for this time by choice) when the war was over. The Spaniards and French won the war and they were too slow leaving and wanted to keep ? and that's when Trujillo and his team of mulattoes and some black Dominicans collectively got together and effectively kicked out the remaining White conquerors and took sovereign control over the land, or somewhat sovereign, because they continued to want to bend over for Spain and allow Spain to basically own them.
Now onto another point. I've been to Aruba, Grand Cayman Islands, Panama, Costa Rica and I've seen the Dominicans there and yes they are always in very subserviant positions. Puerto Ricans, Cubans, Colombians often refer to Dominicans as the black latinos.
If you don't wanna be black ? it you're not black. I don't give a ? and definitely don't want to claim you and don't want you claiming any part of my history.
Trujillo didn't come to power until a century later. How does he even fit into this? Your history is off -
Black people listen if you have not figured it out by now so called Hispanic people are not our friends and that includes people like LUClEN who has the ? nerve to come in here and try to disrespect the victory that was the Haitian revolution
If it was such a victory then why did Haiti end up so indebted to the French? America never endured even half of what Haiti did after they won independence
Bad leadership. The people were ready for war but the mullato coward elites didn't want to fight. They cared more about white acceptance. And to compare Haiti's independence to America's is comparing apples to orange. After we got independence nobody nation wanted to deal with us or accept our independence only until slavery was ultimately abolished. By that times Haiti was economically ruined after decades of being isolated. -
Looks like Dominican Republicans think they are better than Haitian nationals, at least from this thread.
plenty race baiting in this joint. -
Looks like Dominican Republicans think they are better than Haitian nationals, at least from this thread.
plenty race baiting in this joint.
Dominicoons think they're better than anybody who's black. Any Afro Dominican that's even acknowledges that he's black (let alone is proud of it,) was probably born in the U.S. -
Black people listen if you have not figured it out by now so called Hispanic people are not our friends and that includes people like LUClEN who has the ? nerve to come in here and try to disrespect the victory that was the Haitian revolution
If it was such a victory then why did Haiti end up so indebted to the French? America never endured even half of what Haiti did after they won independence
? YOU ? .
Haiti won the war what happens after the war is another matter the usa HAD a whole continent to exploit after the revolution and the support of other European nations. WHAT the Haitians did was even more extraordinary because they had the whole white world against them and nobody really supported them
? YOU ? .
Yet they were still squashed debt and the threat of reinslavement afterwards
Your hurt feelings don't change that.
Spics > Haitians.
the dominicans are the only people on earth that once liberated asked their colonizers to return just like the ? they are. Point black period the dominican republic is a ? STATE. You are just another enemy of black people and we should see you ? as no different to the most hatefull ? members. -
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I thought domicans liked us my first was love was domicans an in tampa they rock gold an ? black hoes an act like ? but speak spanish an do voodoo
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blackgod813 wrote: »I thought domicans liked us my first was love was domicans an in tampa they rock gold an ? black hoes an act like ? but speak spanish an do voodoo
They like us in the same way CACs like us. They may be cool with us on an individual level, but it's how they feel and treat us on a whole is what counts. -
When Dominicans ? on Haiti it's just a way from them to indirectly disrespect all black people
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I'd loved to see a day in my lifetime when Haiti can return to it's status as the "Pearl of Caribbean," and it's a stable country and their poverty is on some 1st world as opposed to 3rd World ? . To where they can give some get back to all of the punk ass muthafuckas that have been disrespecting and shittin' on them.
I would laugh my ass and beam with pride if their was a situation to where Dominicoons where going to Haiti to improve their lives and the Haitians would like, "Remember that Parsley Massacre ? ? Remember when y'all were calling us ? ? Remember when y'all stripped Haitian Dominicans of their citizenship? Naw mayne, we're cool. We're sooo cool on y'all. Remember, y'all ain't black so why would want to live in a black ass country. What you can do is take your coonin' ass back across the border and continue to try to be like and lay up under those white folks that you love so damn much." -
dalyricalbandit wrote: »
Not now primo
Anyway this lame drake needs to figure wtf he is
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blackgod813 wrote: »I thought domicans liked us my first was love was domicans an in tampa they rock gold an ? black hoes an act like ? but speak spanish an do voodoo
Dominicans have retained a lot of African culture but they think they are better/different than the rest of the Caribbean and other black folks
