Ma$e - The Oracle (Cam’ron Diss), Cam'ron responds with Dinner Time
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If u know your boy stays strapped up and another dude dissin him talkin about "showed u your first tec on tour" youre not gonna say its 100% true AND compeletely disregard this dude is sayin u dont own guns knowing he does
Wheres the logic fam?
What are u talking about? I'm not saying Nas OWNED a tec. I'm saying there's no way my homeboy would know what guns I've SEEN before.
Lmao
Do Nas bust his gun??
Hell na but he seen a few in his day!!
Foh....
....and im a Nas stan mind u
Who said Nas bust his gun? All I'm saying is the Jay-Z line can't be technically proven by Large Professor or anyone else other than Nas.. He said he showed him the first tec Nas seen. How is that a fact unless Nas says it is? -
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If u know your boy stays strapped up and another dude dissin him talkin about "showed u your first tec on tour" youre not gonna say its 100% true AND compeletely disregard this dude is sayin u dont own guns knowing he does
Wheres the logic fam?
What are u talking about? I'm not saying Nas OWNED a tec. I'm saying there's no way my homeboy would know what guns I've SEEN before.
Lmao
Do Nas bust his gun??
Hell na but he seen a few in his day!!
Foh....
....and im a Nas stan mind u
Who said Nas bust his gun? All I'm saying is the Jay-Z line can't be technically proven by Large Professor or anyone else other than Nas.. He said he showed him the first tec Nas seen. How is that a fact unless Nas says it is?
Bruh this argument is ?
U got it -
If u know your boy stays strapped up and another dude dissin him talkin about "showed u your first tec on tour" youre not gonna say its 100% true AND compeletely disregard this dude is sayin u dont own guns knowing he does
Wheres the logic fam?
What are u talking about? I'm not saying Nas OWNED a tec. I'm saying there's no way my homeboy would know what guns I've SEEN before.
Lmao
Do Nas bust his gun??
Hell na but he seen a few in his day!!
Foh....
....and im a Nas stan mind u
Who said Nas bust his gun? All I'm saying is the Jay-Z line can't be technically proven by Large Professor or anyone else other than Nas.. He said he showed him the first tec Nas seen. How is that a fact unless Nas says it is?
Bruh this argument is ?
U got it
I know I got it, I been right the whole time. Next thing you about to say is "1 hot album every 10 year average" line is a fact because Bleek says so. -
I know I got it, I been right the whole time. Next thing you about to say is "1 hot album every 10 year average" line is a fact because Bleek says so.
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Tommy bilfiger wrote: »Tru life sonned cam and the dipset worse
a youngin from his crew (19 y/o) stole off cam & gave him a pumpkin head deluxe, took his chain and tru life had the diplomat chain & made a diss track roastin them ? ( the dips is ova)
Harlem ? talk a lot but they some lames who be gettin herbed
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If u know your boy stays strapped up and another dude dissin him talkin about "showed u your first tec on tour" youre not gonna say its 100% true AND compeletely disregard this dude is sayin u dont own guns knowing he does
Wheres the logic fam?
What are u talking about? I'm not saying Nas OWNED a tec. I'm saying there's no way my homeboy would know what guns I've SEEN before.
Lmao
Do Nas bust his gun??
Hell na but he seen a few in his day!!
Foh....
....and im a Nas stan mind u
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bow to royalty wrote: »freethewave wrote: »Cam saying he never did Juelz ? . Then saying it was 50/50. 50% Def Jam, 50% them. Turned to 25% Cam, 25% Jeulz. I know the music industry plays artists but 25%?
Haha, he was underneath Cam and got half the money that was given to Cam. Sounds like Juelz put up no money (so took no risk), and got 25% of the profits. I'm not familiar with how music industry deals work, but this doesn't sound bad. Your boss split his money with you 50/50?
listen even after juelz left cam he still didnt do ? wit his career .
Ya, because he's not that good. Most rappers that get put on as part of a crew don't get very big once they're on their own. 50 admitted part of what held his career up some was trying to get the rest of G Unit to blow, which they didn't. Y'all hear a lot from St Lunatics, D12, or whatever else group rappers try to put on? Just the way it is. -
bow to royalty wrote: »its crazy everything cam said was taken as gospel for 20 years now folk wanna dissect mase diss. whats a lie bout cam leavin jim at rucker? true life did slap him correct? cam doin ? buisness deals? cam sending huddy on ? missions ? deep down it seems like cam know or dont have that same confidence/ arrogance he can beat mase bar for bar and its telling
Bruh..
Rucker- talked about to death and 10+ years ago
Tru Life- talked about to death and 10+ years ago
Huddy- dude got in a car accident, what's to diss? And 7 years ago
And it's not a dissection to say Cam doesn't have a sister. That's too big/blatant of a lie to give a pass on. Not like it's just an unconfirmed rumor.
Next beef 50 gets in lemme know how dope it is when he gets put on blast for getting shot 9 times. Or how strong the line is about him getting outshined on his "We are the Champions" verse when he was on Roc a Fella
then apply that same logic to every diss ever...
Will do. If someone beefs with 50 and says the stuff I posted, I'm not gonna hype them up. I'm not gonna become a detective to find out info either though. But unconfirmed stories, and clear ? are different though.
If Nas never knew a girl named Carmen, and didn't have any kids...Hov's line would be looked at differently. If Big didn't have a girl (Faith or anyone else), then Pac's line would be looked at differently. If Meek wasn't on tour with Nicki, Drake's line wouldn't have been looked at the same. If Renegade didn't exist, Nas line saying Eminem murdered you on your own ? , would be looked at differently. This isn't a new bar I'm setting. -
bow to royalty wrote: »its crazy everything cam said was taken as gospel for 20 years now folk wanna dissect mase diss. whats a lie bout cam leavin jim at rucker? true life did slap him correct? cam doin ? buisness deals? cam sending huddy on ? missions ? deep down it seems like cam know or dont have that same confidence/ arrogance he can beat mase bar for bar and its telling
Bruh..
Rucker- talked about to death and 10+ years ago
Tru Life- talked about to death and 10+ years ago
Huddy- dude got in a car accident, what's to diss? And 7 years ago
And it's not a dissection to say Cam doesn't have a sister. That's too big/blatant of a lie to give a pass on. Not like it's just an unconfirmed rumor.
Next beef 50 gets in lemme know how dope it is when he gets put on blast for getting shot 9 times. Or how strong the line is about him getting outshined on his "We are the Champions" verse when he was on Roc a Fella
then apply that same logic to every diss ever...
Just so I know what you're saying, and you know what you're saying...
- A line saying you ? your own sister should be treated the same whether or not you have a sister.
- A line saying he ? Juelz over in his contract should be looked at the same whether Juelz was signed to him or not.
Any line no matter how blatant false should get the same respect as real facts?
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southsil4lil wrote: »I see what yall are saying and trust me I was a Bad Boy Stan around this time
Puff and Mase both dropped in 1997 and had the game on smash and the LOX dropped early 1998
But DMX came through killed the shiny suit era dolo that year, Bad Boy still had hit songs being played on the radio however you could already see it kind of fading away
DMX brought that gritty ? back with "Get At Me Dog" which people liked but when "Ruff Ryders Anthem" dropped it was game over
2 multi platinum albums and Belly also dropped
Jigga started bubbling that summer with "Can I Get A..." followed by "Hard Knock Life" and it was a wrap for Bad Boy honestly
Facts -
Never followed dipset (wack ass crew) but someone said earlier in the thread CTG was a DJ for them, why be surprised when he dickrides.
As for the other grown ass men in this thread dickriding, you have no excuses. -
Yall do remember that Mase was managed by Ruff Ryders back in the Harlem World days, right?
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Mase got the better diss record.
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englishdude wrote: »Never followed dipset (wack ass crew) but someone said earlier in the thread CTG was a DJ for them, why be surprised when he dickrides.
As for the other grown ass men in this thread dickriding, you have no excuses.
U talking about Henri Charlemagne the ? who produced Girls on Purplest Haze
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englishdude wrote: »Never followed dipset (wack ass crew) but someone said earlier in the thread CTG was a DJ for them, why be surprised when he dickrides.
As for the other grown ass men in this thread dickriding, you have no excuses.
How old are you? -
englishdude wrote: »Never followed dipset (wack ass crew) but someone said earlier in the thread CTG was a DJ for them, why be surprised when he dickrides.
As for the other grown ass men in this thread dickriding, you have no excuses.
Me neither Cam always been wack to dunno what IC loves about him. Same with Juelz other than on Hey Ma -
Every thread eventually turns into a Nas vs Jigga thread smh
Yall Nastafarians need to let it go...Hov won -
......NASTAFARIANS
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So all of a sudden mase was speaking lies in the diss, then when we provide facts that it was true, then you say it’s old so it don’t matter.
That’s equivalent to Smokey saying “stop bringing up old ? ” in Friday. Y’all wack for that. -
So all of a sudden mase was speaking lies in the diss, then when we provide facts that it was true, then you say it’s old so it don’t matter.
That’s equivalent to Smokey saying “stop bringing up old ? ” in Friday. Y’all wack for that.
Cam ? is sister? Cam has a tattoo of mase?
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So all of a sudden mase was speaking lies in the diss, then when we provide facts that it was true, then you say it’s old so it don’t matter.
That’s equivalent to Smokey saying “stop bringing up old ? ” in Friday. Y’all wack for that.
Cam ? is sister? Cam has a tattoo of mase?
What facts are you talking about
Everyone knows the name ? is Harlem world. Mase is Harlem world.
When he said “my name is on the ribbon of the bird.” Talking about Harlem world.
Cam has Harlem world tatted on him as well.
And with the whole sister ? , mase was talking about Charlie Baltimore. They was calling each other brother and sister. He was saying cam has been a thirsty ? since 10 and he ? a chick he called his sister. I’m from Harlem so I can read between the lines. But yea
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and the facts were the where was all that Rico ? when u left Jim and Rucker Park.
Cam obviously lied when he said it was a one on one fight -
Pastor Mason's name isn't Harlem World. He's from Jacksonville
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Pastor Mason's name isn't Harlem World. He's from Jacksonville
Mase moved here when he was 5 -
So all of a sudden mase was speaking lies in the diss, then when we provide facts that it was true, then you say it’s old so it don’t matter.
That’s equivalent to Smokey saying “stop bringing up old ? ” in Friday. Y’all wack for that.
Cam ? is sister? Cam has a tattoo of mase?
What facts are you talking about
Everyone knows the name ? is Harlem world. Mase is Harlem world.
When he said “my name is on the ribbon of the bird.” Talking about Harlem world.
Cam has Harlem world tatted on him as well.
And with the whole sister ? , mase was talking about Charlie Baltimore. They was calling each other brother and sister. He was saying cam has been a thirsty ? since 10 and he ? a chick he called his sister. I’m from Harlem so I can read between the lines. But yea
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and the facts were the where was all that Rico ? when u left Jim and Rucker Park.
Cam obviously lied when he said it was a one on one fight
So were giving Mase credit for dissing Cam by saying he ? Charlie Baltimore? And by his name he meant Harlem World?
This is the only diss I can think of that becomes way worse as you start to understand the meaning of the lyrics...