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  • rip.dilla
    rip.dilla Members Posts: 17,412 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Broddie wrote: »
    iron man1 wrote: »
    Cain wrote: »
    Suicide Squad was a good movie till the last 20min. Besfes that I liked the movie

    First mistake was not making it R. Second was not having Joker be the main villain and should've had Deathstroke involved.

    No need for Deathstroke. Works best as a lone merc. Not a team player. Joker should've been the villain though. Add Bronze Tiger to the sequel.

    If joker was the main Gilliam then it would've been assault on arkham all over again.



    At first I thought you were referring to the movie director but....






    THIW though
  • rip.dilla
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    If the Squad are mercenaries and 'bad guys' hired by the government as disposable how does The Joker become a villain? To whom exactly? He's known as Batman's nemesis and Bats just had a cameo in SS
  • Broddie
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    rip.dilla wrote: »
    If the Squad are mercenaries and 'bad guys' hired by the government as disposable how does The Joker become a villain? To whom exactly? He's known as Batman's nemesis and Bats just had a cameo in SS

    The Joker is a terrorist. He stopped being a local criminal ages ago. Even people's beloved TDK ran with the anarchist/terrorist angle. He is an enemy to everybody. He's shown up in non-Batmam comics raising hell outiside of Gotham.

    Hell one of the most popular Batman stories from the 80s has The Joker traveling to the middle east to sell nukes to other terrorist. There are many ways he could've easily been folded into the main villain role in a Suicide Squad movie.
  • rip.dilla
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    Yeah I agree.. Woulda made the movie a bit more interesting




    The villain in the movie was ?




  • Splackavelli
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    Broddie wrote: »
    rip.dilla wrote: »
    If the Squad are mercenaries and 'bad guys' hired by the government as disposable how does The Joker become a villain? To whom exactly? He's known as Batman's nemesis and Bats just had a cameo in SS

    The Joker is a terrorist. He stopped being a local criminal ages ago. Even people's beloved TDK ran with the anarchist/terrorist angle. He is an enemy to everybody. He's shown up in non-Batmam comics raising hell outiside of Gotham.

    Hell one of the most popular Batman stories from the 80s has The Joker traveling to the middle east to sell nukes to other terrorist. There are many ways he could've easily been folded into the main villain role in a Suicide Squad movie.

    In that case why not have them take on a global terrorist network like h.i.v.e or kobra and keep the minor joker role. The problem wasn't his screen time the problem was he wasn't psychotic enough and they changed up the abusive relationship angle between Harley and joker. Joker had his own movie with TDK let that marinate a little while longer until the joker gets the spotlight again.
  • Broddie
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    edited December 2017
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    Broddie wrote: »
    rip.dilla wrote: »
    If the Squad are mercenaries and 'bad guys' hired by the government as disposable how does The Joker become a villain? To whom exactly? He's known as Batman's nemesis and Bats just had a cameo in SS

    The Joker is a terrorist. He stopped being a local criminal ages ago. Even people's beloved TDK ran with the anarchist/terrorist angle. He is an enemy to everybody. He's shown up in non-Batmam comics raising hell outiside of Gotham.

    Hell one of the most popular Batman stories from the 80s has The Joker traveling to the middle east to sell nukes to other terrorist. There are many ways he could've easily been folded into the main villain role in a Suicide Squad movie.

    In that case why not have them take on a global terrorist network like h.i.v.e or kobra and keep the minor joker role. The problem wasn't his screen time the problem was he wasn't psychotic enough and they changed up the abusive relationship angle between Harley and joker. Joker had his own movie with TDK let that marinate a little while longer until the joker gets the spotlight again.

    Because he is a much easier sell than an unknown to the general audience faction.

    Honestly I thought he was going to be the villain initially too. It made the most sense and gave Harley (one of the 2 main characters) a greater dilemma to deal with and thus a more complete arc.

    I enjoyed what we got for what it was. If anything its the one time I've actually been sold on The Joker/Harley relationship ironically because it was not the battered wife cliche of the cartoon and comics which I've never liked.

    Nevertheless it could've and would've been a much better movie if they played it more traditional and grounded and not "epic". The scene in the bar illustrates that potential perfectly. Joker as main villain would've been a great vessel for that type of narrative. Even the director sees it in retrospect.
  • Broddie
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    edited December 2017
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    "There's gotta be a window around here somewhere"

    Lmfao
  • Angeles1son85
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    joker shoulda already had or been filming a orgin of joker they need to bring him to the big screen already
  • Idiopathic Joker
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  • rip.dilla
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    joker shoulda already had or been filming a orgin of joker they need to bring him to the big screen already

    I read recently Scorsese working on that as a producer... I dunno if it'll be a DC production though
  • Broddie
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    rip.dilla wrote: »
    joker shoulda already had or been filming a orgin of joker they need to bring him to the big screen already

    I read recently Scorsese working on that as a producer... I dunno if it'll be a DC production though

    Of course it will. I think you meant to say DCEU and no it won't be. It's an elseworlds.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elseworlds
  • OGDirtyDee
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    until DC gets they ? together we should lock this ?
  • Beta
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    Star Wars is out it's over for this ?
  • soul rattler
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    Bruh
  • Broddie
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    I mean I immediately recognized them as Hawk & Dove so it's not that bad. That wig though.
  • nujerz84
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    edited December 2017
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    Those uniforms are very accurate to the comics..it the googles that look cheesy to me

    28a16br.jpg


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  • Splackavelli
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    Broddie wrote: »
    I mean I immediately recognized them as Hawk & Dove so it's not that bad. That wig though.

    It looks good for as far as TV goes so I have no complaints. Since the show is called Titans shouldn't ? Grayson be night wing instead of Robin?
  • Beta
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    This thread jumping
  • fortyacres
    fortyacres Members, Moderators Posts: 4,480 Regulator
    edited December 2017
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    lol, bet this makes you DC ? feel better bout yourself.

    i like J/L enough but Last Jedi is miiiiiiiiles better than it.
  • Broddie
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    I had to throw them a bone.

    Still haven't seen JL nor will I ever see TLJ. I have no dog in this race.
  • matches malone
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    Broddie wrote: »
    I mean I immediately recognized them as Hawk & Dove so it's not that bad. That wig though.

    looks similar to falcons suit plus goggles. I like it just fine.
  • Agrv2385
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    fortyacres wrote: »
    lol, bet this makes you DC ? feel better bout yourself.

    i like J/L enough but Last Jedi is miiiiiiiiles better than it.

    this post achieved what exactly? good for you lil ? , you have an opinion. *claps hands*
  • fortyacres
    fortyacres Members, Moderators Posts: 4,480 Regulator
    edited December 2017
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    Agrv2385 wrote: »
    fortyacres wrote: »
    lol, bet this makes you DC ? feel better bout yourself.

    i like J/L enough but Last Jedi is miiiiiiiiles better than it.

    this post achieved what exactly? good for you lil ? , you have an opinion. *claps hands*

    lol *triggered*