Are there any emcees that are top 20 artist of all time?

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And_So_It_Burns
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edited July 2012 in The Reason
I'm curious; do you think any rapper deserves to be in such a list? Based on quality of music, impact and other qualities?
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  • Ear2DaSt
    Ear2DaSt Members Posts: 10,480 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Rap is the best music!
  • nj2089
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    no but i think tupac is the closest
  • CeLLaR-DooR
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    All genres?...pssssh...Ice Cube
  • And_So_It_Burns
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    nj2089 wrote: »
    no but i think tupac is the closest

    So what qualities are the best rappers in the genre missing to be listed with the greats?
  • _Menace_
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    nj2089 wrote: »
    no but i think tupac is the closest

    So what qualities are the best rappers in the genre missing to be listed with the greats?

    "Respect and Recognition" from people who dont listen to rap.

    not everyone listens to rock yet Elivs is crowned as a top 10 musician and we have to accept that?

    If we say Pac/Nas should be in the top 20 musicians of all time than people will try to state a case why they shouldnt
  • nj2089
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    hiphop is not respected by masses like other genres
  • Focal Point
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    Tough to call, so many great artist out there in the world past to present, but LL, Pac, Eminem, the Roots, maybe Nas, maybe Jay-Z, top 20 though is a rough fitting...

    Michael Jackson, Bruce Springsteen, Frank Sinatra, Luther Vandross, the Beatles, Marvin Gaye, Aretha Franklin, Bach, The Temptations, Madonna, Mariah Carey, Bob Marley, Beethoven, Miles Davis, Prince, Jimi Hendrix, Rolling Stones, Celine Dion, Whitney Houston, Beyonce, Mozart, Phil Collins, David Brubeck, Elton John, Queen, ABBA, Stevie Wonder, Nirvana, Tina Turner, Led Zepplin, James Brown, Sade, Elvis
  • Cabana_Da_Don
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    Nas,Jay-z,Tupac,Rakim etc.A lot of mcs.
  • CeLLaR-DooR
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    Beatles...Bob Dylan...Michael Jackson...Prince..the Rollin' Stones...Bob Marley...Miles Davis...Coltrane...Fela Kuti...Louis Armstong...Does any rapper belong with these names?...And if we're talkin' music...Bach?...Mozart?...

    I think that because most of these guys play instruments as well as write their own stuff...they have an edge...
  • And_So_It_Burns
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    _Menace_ wrote: »
    nj2089 wrote: »
    no but i think tupac is the closest

    So what qualities are the best rappers in the genre missing to be listed with the greats?

    "Respect and Recognition" from people who dont listen to rap.

    not everyone listens to rock yet Elivs is crowned as a top 10 musician and we have to accept that?

    If we say Pac/Nas should be in the top 20 musicians of all time than people will try to state a case why they shouldnt

    We all know why rap won't be looked at or held in positive light like other genres of music. It has been marginalized as negative, thug, and a nihilistic art form since its inception from various groups(I wont mention any names) but that shouldn’t disqualify exceptional artists from being mentioned with the greats if they meet that criteria.
    I think Jay and Nas deserve a spot in the top 20. WHat have other great artist done that these two haven't.
  • CeLLaR-DooR
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    c1up wrote: »
    Tough to call, so many great artist out there in the world past to present, but LL, Pac, Eminem, the Roots, maybe Nas, maybe Jay-Z, top 20 though is a rough fitting... Michael Jackson, Bruce Springsteen, Frank Sinatra, Luther Vandross, the Beatles, Marvin Gaye, Aretha Franklin, Bach, The Temptations, Madonna, Mariah Carey, Bob Marley, Beethoven, Miles Davis, Prince, Jimi Hendrix, Rolling Stones, Celine Dion, Whitney Houston, Beyonce, Mozart, Phil Collins, David Brubeck, Elton John, Queen, ABBA, Stevie Wonder, Nirvana, Tina Turner, Led Zepplin, James Brown, Sade, Elvis

    CS these geniuses...Jimi...James Brown...Aretha...Nirvana...David Brubeck and his quartet...
  • _Menace_
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    Top 20 musicians of all time imo (No order )

    Frank Sinatra
    Tupac
    Nas
    Mariah Carey
    Bob Marley
    Marvin Gaye
    Jimi Hendrix
    The Beatles
    Whitney Houston
    Micheal Jackson
    James Brown
    Bruce Springsteen
    Elvis
    Rick James
    The Temptations
    Al Green
    Aaliyah (YES AALIYAH)
    Madonna
    Stevie Wonder
    Prince
  • CeLLaR-DooR
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    _Menace_ wrote: »
    Top 20 musicians of all time imo (No order )

    Frank Sinatra
    Tupac
    Nas
    Mariah Carey
    Bob Marley
    Marvin Gaye
    Jimi Hendrix
    The Beatles
    Whitney Houston
    Micheal Jackson
    James Brown
    Bruce Springsteen
    Elvis
    Rick James
    The Temptations
    Al Green
    Aaliyah (YES AALIYAH)
    Madonna
    Stevie Wonder
    Prince

    lol at Aaliyah's inclusion...? didn't write or produce her own ? ...? she doin' on this list?
  • _Menace_
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    _Menace_ wrote: »
    Top 20 musicians of all time imo (No order )

    Frank Sinatra
    Tupac
    Nas
    Mariah Carey
    Bob Marley
    Marvin Gaye
    Jimi Hendrix
    The Beatles
    Whitney Houston
    Micheal Jackson
    James Brown
    Bruce Springsteen
    Elvis
    Rick James
    The Temptations
    Al Green
    Aaliyah (YES AALIYAH)
    Madonna
    Stevie Wonder
    Prince

    lol at Aaliyah's inclusion...? didn't write or produce her own ? ...? she doin' on this list?

    I know you you didnt just say Aaliyah was a ? .

    Imma pretend I didnt read that..........

    *inhales* *shakes head*
  • Focal Point
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    _Menace_ wrote: »
    Top 20 musicians of all time imo (No order )

    Frank Sinatra
    Tupac
    Nas
    Mariah Carey
    Bob Marley
    Marvin Gaye
    Jimi Hendrix
    The Beatles
    Whitney Houston
    Micheal Jackson
    James Brown
    Bruce Springsteen
    Elvis
    Rick James
    The Temptations
    Al Green
    Aaliyah (YES AALIYAH)
    Madonna
    Stevie Wonder
    Prince

    great list but then some would ask why no Elton or Beethoven or Bach or LL or Em or Celine or the Roots, or Curtis Mayfield or Aretha or Yolanda Adams... it can be tough to make an open and shut case just based on them examples I threw right there to consider. Again nothing wrong with ya list, it's great but you see some names and you say well damn just maybe.
  • nj2089
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    cause she died lol
  • CeLLaR-DooR
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    And also...hip-hop is sample-based...other genres of music don't rate that at all...its not like in jazz where you would reinterpret a song...
  • Tommy bilfiger
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    Pac was a wacc ass mc so how can he be a top 20 artist of all time? He aint even a top 10 mc of all time

    Only Jigga qualifies

  • CeLLaR-DooR
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    _Menace_ wrote: »
    _Menace_ wrote: »
    Top 20 musicians of all time imo (No order )

    Frank Sinatra
    Tupac
    Nas
    Mariah Carey
    Bob Marley
    Marvin Gaye
    Jimi Hendrix
    The Beatles
    Whitney Houston
    Micheal Jackson
    James Brown
    Bruce Springsteen
    Elvis
    Rick James
    The Temptations
    Al Green
    Aaliyah (YES AALIYAH)
    Madonna
    Stevie Wonder
    Prince

    lol at Aaliyah's inclusion...? didn't write or produce her own ? ...? she doin' on this list?

    I know you you didnt just say Aaliyah was a ? .

    Imma pretend I didnt read that..........

    *inhales* *shakes head*

    Mate I refer to everyone in such ways...mum...niece...dad, even though he's dead...Don't take offence

    but still...? she doin' on the list?
  • CeLLaR-DooR
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    Pac was a wacc ass mc so how can he be a top 20 artist of all time? He aint even a top 10 mc of all time

    Only Jigga qualifies

    Or Cube...Even though Jig is in my top 5 and Cube may or may not be in it...

  • _Menace_
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    _Menace_ wrote: »
    _Menace_ wrote: »
    Top 20 musicians of all time imo (No order )

    Frank Sinatra
    Tupac
    Nas
    Mariah Carey
    Bob Marley
    Marvin Gaye
    Jimi Hendrix
    The Beatles
    Whitney Houston
    Micheal Jackson
    James Brown
    Bruce Springsteen
    Elvis
    Rick James
    The Temptations
    Al Green
    Aaliyah (YES AALIYAH)
    Madonna
    Stevie Wonder
    Prince

    lol at Aaliyah's inclusion...? didn't write or produce her own ? ...? she doin' on this list?

    I know you you didnt just say Aaliyah was a ? .

    Imma pretend I didnt read that..........

    *inhales* *shakes head*

    Mate I refer to everyone in such ways...mum...niece...dad, even though he's dead...Don't take offence

    but still...? she doin' on the list?

    Just a personal list
  • _Menace_
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    Pac was a wacc ass mc so how can he be a top 20 artist of all time? He aint even a top 10 mc of all time

    Only Jigga qualifies

    no one gives a ? about your wack ass input

    go to the cheapseats and talk how u a Heat fan now
  • CeLLaR-DooR
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    _Menace_ wrote: »
    _Menace_ wrote: »
    _Menace_ wrote: »
    Top 20 musicians of all time imo (No order )

    Frank Sinatra
    Tupac
    Nas
    Mariah Carey
    Bob Marley
    Marvin Gaye
    Jimi Hendrix
    The Beatles
    Whitney Houston
    Micheal Jackson
    James Brown
    Bruce Springsteen
    Elvis
    Rick James
    The Temptations
    Al Green
    Aaliyah (YES AALIYAH)
    Madonna
    Stevie Wonder
    Prince

    lol at Aaliyah's inclusion...? didn't write or produce her own ? ...? she doin' on this list?

    I know you you didnt just say Aaliyah was a ? .

    Imma pretend I didnt read that..........

    *inhales* *shakes head*

    Mate I refer to everyone in such ways...mum...niece...dad, even though he's dead...Don't take offence

    but still...? she doin' on the list?

    Just a personal list

    no doubt...I kno' what IMO means...can you at least explain it?
  • Focal Point
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    Pac was a wacc ass mc so how can he be a top 20 artist of all time? He aint even a top 10 mc of all time

    Only Jigga qualifies

    Or Cube...Even though Jig is in my top 5 and Cube may or may not be in it...

    good person to add
  • _Menace_
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    _Menace_ wrote: »
    _Menace_ wrote: »
    _Menace_ wrote: »
    Top 20 musicians of all time imo (No order )

    Frank Sinatra
    Tupac
    Nas
    Mariah Carey
    Bob Marley
    Marvin Gaye
    Jimi Hendrix
    The Beatles
    Whitney Houston
    Micheal Jackson
    James Brown
    Bruce Springsteen
    Elvis
    Rick James
    The Temptations
    Al Green
    Aaliyah (YES AALIYAH)
    Madonna
    Stevie Wonder
    Prince

    lol at Aaliyah's inclusion...? didn't write or produce her own ? ...? she doin' on this list?

    I know you you didnt just say Aaliyah was a ? .

    Imma pretend I didnt read that..........

    *inhales* *shakes head*

    Mate I refer to everyone in such ways...mum...niece...dad, even though he's dead...Don't take offence

    but still...? she doin' on the list?

    Just a personal list

    no doubt...I kno' what IMO means...can you at least explain it?


    "In My Opinion"