Randy Moss: I'm greatest WR ever
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themadlionsfan wrote: »TheBossman wrote: »i can not believe in the cheap seats i have to agree with a ? named greenwood. scust.
this ? is not even debatable on any level.
production: Rice played 20 years and his last year has the same stats as moss this season.
2004 age 42 30 rec. 429 yards 25.2 yards per game 3tds.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RiceJe00.htm
moss:
2010 age 33 28 rec. 434yards. 27.1yards per game 3tds.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MossRa00.htm
stats: we all know the regular season stats here are the post season stats.
until they play sunday,
? it, i'll let the goat speak for himself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdoEhpUhFfI
? all that production, talent, athletic, dominating, etc etc etc, rice is and will always be a one dementional wide receiver.
rice
irvin
largent
monk
cris carter (anthony carter wasn't bad either)
t.o.
marvin harrison
all before moss.
after that the top 10 gets merky.
hermen moore
andre reed
andre rison
irving fyrer
and before it's all said and done megatron>moss.
Herman Moore?...better than Randy...GTFOH.....and I'mma Lions fan
Same goes for Andre Rison. FOH. And he was my second favorite Falcon on those squads behind Deion. lol -
greenwood1921 wrote: »themadlionsfan wrote: »TheBossman wrote: »i can not believe in the cheap seats i have to agree with a ? named greenwood. scust.
this ? is not even debatable on any level.
production: Rice played 20 years and his last year has the same stats as moss this season.
2004 age 42 30 rec. 429 yards 25.2 yards per game 3tds.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RiceJe00.htm
moss:
2010 age 33 28 rec. 434yards. 27.1yards per game 3tds.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MossRa00.htm
stats: we all know the regular season stats here are the post season stats.
until they play sunday,
? it, i'll let the goat speak for himself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdoEhpUhFfI
? all that production, talent, athletic, dominating, etc etc etc, rice is and will always be a one dementional wide receiver.
rice
irvin
largent
monk
cris carter (anthony carter wasn't bad either)
t.o.
marvin harrison
all before moss.
after that the top 10 gets merky.
hermen moore
andre reed
andre rison
irving fyrer
and before it's all said and done megatron>moss.
Herman Moore?...better than Randy...GTFOH.....and I'mma Lions fan
Same goes for Andre Rison. FOH. And he was my second favorite Falcon on those squads behind Deion. lol
Rison I can buy...Herman was my mans and all but...
NOPE -
themadlionsfan wrote: »TheBossman wrote: »i can not believe in the cheap seats i have to agree with a ? named greenwood. scust.
this ? is not even debatable on any level.
production: Rice played 20 years and his last year has the same stats as moss this season.
2004 age 42 30 rec. 429 yards 25.2 yards per game 3tds.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RiceJe00.htm
moss:
2010 age 33 28 rec. 434yards. 27.1yards per game 3tds.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MossRa00.htm
stats: we all know the regular season stats here are the post season stats.
until they play sunday,
? it, i'll let the goat speak for himself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdoEhpUhFfI
? all that production, talent, athletic, dominating, etc etc etc, rice is and will always be a one dementional wide receiver.
rice
irvin
largent
monk
cris carter (anthony carter wasn't bad either)
t.o.
marvin harrison
all before moss.
after that the top 10 gets merky.
hermen moore
andre reed
andre rison
irving fyrer
and before it's all said and done megatron>moss.
Herman Moore?...better than Randy...GTFOH.....and I'mma Lions fan
what does "after that the top 10 gets merky."
mean to you ? ? do you read anything? -
themadlionsfan wrote: »greenwood1921 wrote: »themadlionsfan wrote: »TheBossman wrote: »i can not believe in the cheap seats i have to agree with a ? named greenwood. scust.
this ? is not even debatable on any level.
production: Rice played 20 years and his last year has the same stats as moss this season.
2004 age 42 30 rec. 429 yards 25.2 yards per game 3tds.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RiceJe00.htm
moss:
2010 age 33 28 rec. 434yards. 27.1yards per game 3tds.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MossRa00.htm
stats: we all know the regular season stats here are the post season stats.
until they play sunday,
? it, i'll let the goat speak for himself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdoEhpUhFfI
? all that production, talent, athletic, dominating, etc etc etc, rice is and will always be a one dementional wide receiver.
rice
irvin
largent
monk
cris carter (anthony carter wasn't bad either)
t.o.
marvin harrison
all before moss.
after that the top 10 gets merky.
hermen moore
andre reed
andre rison
irving fyrer
and before it's all said and done megatron>moss.
Herman Moore?...better than Randy...GTFOH.....and I'mma Lions fan
Same goes for Andre Rison. FOH. And he was my second favorite Falcon on those squads behind Deion. lol
Rison I can buy...Herman was my mans and all but...
NOPE
Nah, Bad Moon ain't better than Moss. He was cold, but not that cold. He was better than Moss at certain things... Route running, blocking, but he wasn't prone to go across the middle that much either and he took plays off too.
A system cat too. He was made for that Run'N'Shoot we used to run. He would ? in our current offense. -
Sometimes when you are "that ? " like Moss was you can get away with ? like taking plays off or not crossing the middle..I mean Deion never even attempted to make a tackle and he is still GOAT...Rice is #1 but lets be real when Moss decided to give a ? he was virtually unstoppable
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TheBossman wrote: »themadlionsfan wrote: »TheBossman wrote: »i can not believe in the cheap seats i have to agree with a ? named greenwood. scust.
this ? is not even debatable on any level.
production: Rice played 20 years and his last year has the same stats as moss this season.
2004 age 42 30 rec. 429 yards 25.2 yards per game 3tds.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RiceJe00.htm
moss:
2010 age 33 28 rec. 434yards. 27.1yards per game 3tds.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MossRa00.htm
stats: we all know the regular season stats here are the post season stats.
until they play sunday,
? it, i'll let the goat speak for himself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdoEhpUhFfI
? all that production, talent, athletic, dominating, etc etc etc, rice is and will always be a one dementional wide receiver.
rice
irvin
largent
monk
cris carter (anthony carter wasn't bad either)
t.o.
marvin harrison
all before moss.
after that the top 10 gets merky.
hermen moore
andre reed
andre rison
irving fyrer
and before it's all said and done megatron>moss.
Herman Moore?...better than Randy...GTFOH.....and I'mma Lions fan
what does "after that the top 10 gets merky."
mean to you ? ? do you read anything?
I understand ? gets murky....but with that statement you had ya head above the clouds...foggy....watchin cold fronts move across the land masses type ? ... -
themadlionsfan wrote: »TheBossman wrote: »themadlionsfan wrote: »TheBossman wrote: »i can not believe in the cheap seats i have to agree with a ? named greenwood. scust.
this ? is not even debatable on any level.
production: Rice played 20 years and his last year has the same stats as moss this season.
2004 age 42 30 rec. 429 yards 25.2 yards per game 3tds.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RiceJe00.htm
moss:
2010 age 33 28 rec. 434yards. 27.1yards per game 3tds.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MossRa00.htm
stats: we all know the regular season stats here are the post season stats.
until they play sunday,
? it, i'll let the goat speak for himself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdoEhpUhFfI
? all that production, talent, athletic, dominating, etc etc etc, rice is and will always be a one dementional wide receiver.
rice
irvin
largent
monk
cris carter (anthony carter wasn't bad either)
t.o.
marvin harrison
all before moss.
after that the top 10 gets merky.
hermen moore
andre reed
andre rison
irving fyrer
and before it's all said and done megatron>moss.
Herman Moore?...better than Randy...GTFOH.....and I'mma Lions fan
what does "after that the top 10 gets merky."
mean to you ? ? do you read anything?
I understand ? gets murky....but with that statement you had ya head above the clouds...foggy....watchin cold fronts move across the land masses type ? ...
im not sure if you still understood my sentence......rice
irvin
largent
monk
cris carter (anthony carter wasn't bad either)
t.o.
marvin harrison
all before moss.
after that the top 10(the discussion of the best wrs after moss) gets merky. Adjective: not clear
hermen moore
andre reed
andre rison
irving fyrer -
i agree Rice nd TO> Moss but yall ? gotta get outta here sayin Moss aint a top 10 or 15 WR dats ridiculous da numbers dont lie
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Id love to see the numbers Moss and TO woulda had with Montana and Steve Young as their qbs
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The fact is Moss didn't nearly have the QB's the T.O. and especially Moss was blessed with most their careers, after Tom Brady, the next best was Dante Culpepper? We saw what he could in two short years with Brady as his QB, imagine what he could do if he had that his whole career like rice, hell if he had the QB's T.O. has had his whole career this probably wouldn't even be a debate, and the whole lazy argument, If Rice, T.O. and etc had to work that hard to achieve those stats, and Moss wasn't trying hard and he still has better stats then T.O., Carter etc. what does that really say about how good Moss really was?
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Randy Moss made Daunte Culpepper an MVP candidate, dude's greatness can't be denied...
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playmaker88 wrote: »
? Sharpe was a beast. He played when cats was still hitting. He showed me enough in his injury shortened career. Like Gayle Sayers. Maybe youve heard of him.
*SHAQ VOICE*
stop it..
good thing you dont make those type of decisions... lol@ "showed me enough" -
Rice is the goat by the numbers, but his offenses had great qbs and were designed to feed him the ball. Defenses were terrified of randy and KNEW he only ran certain routes and they still couldn't stop him. Wish he trained like jerrry did and it would be different
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some of ya list just disrespectfull...Moss and T.O. are easily top 5.....
? Steve Largent ?
Art Monk ?
a Sharpe not named Shannon ?
FOH
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Did someone say Marvin Harrison? You got to be kidding me he was a pure system WR and a HUGE overachiever there is like 13 more WRs in the NFL more talented then Harrison
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I Am Jay ? wrote: »Did someone say Marvin Harrison? You got to be kidding me he was a pure system WR and a HUGE overachiever there is like 13 more WRs in the NFL more talented then Harrison
Marvin harrison a system wr? Yeah you are a ? -
greenwood1921 wrote: »Anybody that thinks this is even arguable don't know ? about football.
Might as well say A.I. is the best shooting guard of all time.
Moss was/is one dimensional, never played with passion, and took plays off (admittedly).
He would barely ? my top 15.
Your an idiot....
Most touchdown receptions in a season – 23 (2007)
Most touchdown receptions by a rookie in a season – 17 (1998)
Most seasons with 17 or more touchdown receptions – 3 (1998, 2003, 2007)
Most games in a season with at least 2 touchdown receptions – 8 (2007)
Most yards receiving in a Pro Bowl game – 212 (2000)
Most 1,200+ yard receiving seasons to start a career – 6 (1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003)
Fastest player to reach 5,000 career receiving yards – 59 games
Youngest player in NFL history to record 100 receiving touchdowns – (29 years and 235 days)
Youngest player in NFL history to record 120 receiving touchdowns – (30 years, 313 days)
Moss may not be THE GOAT...but he's the closest one to it.
damn all that? yet he still doesnt have 1k receptions
When you waste your career on bumass worthless Raider "teams" its what happens.
The fact of the matter is when Mauce had an Elite HOF QB throwing to him, he shattered records. If Moss had Brady throwing to him for as long as Rice had Steve Young and JOE ? MONTANA throwing the ball to him, he'd have just as many receptions and touchdowns.
LMAO at having an uncover-able 6.4", 4.2- 40 yard wide receiver running across the middle. I swear some of you idiots dont know ? about football. -
I think Rice is the most accomplished receiver ever (based on consistency and records)
To me Moss is the most talented receiver ever based on physical skills.
Who's the best ever is all opinion, you can't factor out the talent that was around the receiver either, WHICH YOU RICE FANS ARE CONVENIENTLY DISMISSING. Don't act like Rice ain't play with Montana, Young, Ricky Waters, and all time great defensive players with Haley, Sanders, Lott,etc who got him the ball. -
moss had one great year with Brady and yall ? wanna use the excuse well if he played with a great qb his whole career foh, he had three years with Brady and one great season.
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His last year with Brady was bad because Bellichick was clearly trying to freeze him out and stopping him from getting a new contract. Look how good he made Cassell look the year Brady was out.
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its funny how cats say this aint debatable but the thread is 3 pages long.....If someone like Anquan boldin said he was the GOAT WR, this it would be ignored and not even get a thread....(thats an example of not debatable) but Moss obviously has legs to stand on cuz ? are in here discussing it
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That ? Moss rejuvenated a old ass Randall Cunningham career. Made Dante Culpepper look like ? Peyton Manning. Made Brady have the greatest year of his career. This ? is in the convo but he not because he gave no ? sometimes which hurt his overall numbers. If he never went to Oakland he probably surpasses Rice overall numbers by now. Moss was unreal he change the game. Calvin Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald, and Brandon Marshall is Moss Offspring U get Moss'ed if u get burned on routes LOL.
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WhoisDonG??? wrote: »That ? Moss rejuvenated a old ass Randall Cunningham career. Made Dante Culpepper look like ? Peyton Manning. Made Brady have the greatest year of his career. This ? is in the convo but he not because he gave no ? sometimes which hurt his overall numbers. If he never went to Oakland he probably surpasses Rice overall numbers by now. Moss was unreal he change the game. Calvin Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald, and Brandon Marshall is Moss Offspring U get Moss'ed if u get burned on routes LOL.
Dumb ? ? say in the cheap seats.
Please explain how he would have 7600+ more yards at this point in his career if had just not gone to Oakland.
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greenwood1921 wrote: »Anybody that thinks this is even arguable don't know ? about football.
Might as well say A.I. is the best shooting guard of all time.
Moss was/is one dimensional, never played with passion, and took plays off (admittedly).
He would barely ? my top 15.
Your an idiot....
Most touchdown receptions in a season – 23 (2007)
Most touchdown receptions by a rookie in a season – 17 (1998)
Most seasons with 17 or more touchdown receptions – 3 (1998, 2003, 2007)
Most games in a season with at least 2 touchdown receptions – 8 (2007)
Most yards receiving in a Pro Bowl game – 212 (2000)
Most 1,200+ yard receiving seasons to start a career – 6 (1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003)
Fastest player to reach 5,000 career receiving yards – 59 games
Youngest player in NFL history to record 100 receiving touchdowns – (29 years and 235 days)
Youngest player in NFL history to record 120 receiving touchdowns – (30 years, 313 days)
Moss may not be THE GOAT...but he's the closest one to it.
damn all that? yet he still doesnt have 1k receptions
When you waste your career on bumass worthless Raider "teams" its what happens.
The fact of the matter is when Mauce had an Elite HOF QB throwing to him, he shattered records. If Moss had Brady throwing to him for as long as Rice had Steve Young and JOE ? MONTANA throwing the ball to him, he'd have just as many receptions and touchdowns.
LMAO at having an uncover-able 6.4", 4.2- 40 yard wide receiver running across the middle. I swear some of you idiots dont know ? about football.
lol what the ? kind of madden logic is this??
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All you ? hollering "give Moss Joe Montana or Steve Young" really showing your lack of knowledge cause that ? would've never worked.