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  • Westie
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    We get it Darc, you're cool with beating women. No need for the name calling friend.

    Im cool with beating ANYBODY if they put their hands on you first. YOU brought up the "women" ? as if it's something special.

    And where exactly did I name call?

    Sad and "A bunch of ? turds"

    @parallel so you've never laughed at or been entertained by Fighting Videos? U never made a Solonge vs. JayZ joke or laughed at one?

    Enough with the pretentious tone. An honest conversation would likely reveal everybody in this thread whining on behalf of this broad as hypocrites. For some idiotic reason hypocrisy seems to be perfectly OK so long as its on behalf of a female.
    Parallel wrote: »
    You're starting to sound like the white people that justify the use of excessive force against black males by the police.

    "well he stole cigars"..."well she slapped his neck"
    Parallel wrote: »
    That burn slow

    Lavar Arrington voice'

    Get em!

    Just being honest. The ? sounds the exact same.

    "well he stole cigars"..."well she slapped him"..."look whites get killed by cops too"..."look women hit men as well"

    Since you've decided you'd rather speak in here than the CS Darc...I would like to hear your rebuttal to this.

    @Parallel‌ I'm never in the Cheapseats. My teams are the Lakers & the Chargers. I dont have ? to say about tthem right now smh :(

    Also, I have made it clear that I dont agree with hitting a female just for her ? talking. If a female steals from me Im not going to hit her. HOWEVER, if a female attacks me I can not guarantee her safety. HUGE difference.

    I also said what I said about Ray Rice's wife before I saw the video. I was under the impression she slapped him. Then @obnoxious‌lyfresh pointed out that she slapped him because he SPIT on her. Thats when I turned on him.

    There a difference between me saying he is wrong. And me CARING that he's wrong. My lack of empathy is a direct result of the hypocrisy being shown in this situation and others like it. the fact that people LAUGHED at JAYZ and "victim blamed" but arent laughing at this ? is all the proof I need.


    Actually she did slap him before they got on the elevator. The media is not playin the whole vid. Right before they walked up to the elevator, she "pops" him in his face.

    @Recaptimus_Prime you're talking about after he spit on her?


    Naw. Not when they were on the elevator. The full vid shows starts before they even got on. As they were walkin up before the elevator doors open, she slaps him. Then when they got on, that's when I guess he spit or buck at her, which she charged and got punched. But these media shows aren't playin the full vid.

    That's why I said they're both was wrong. That's probably why she took part of the responsibility.

    He spit on her twice. OUTSIDE of the elevator -which he followed her on. What video are you watching?
    xxCivicxx wrote: »
    According to the associated press there's video and audio of her spitting on him first

    I like how this fact has been mentioned at least 4 times in this thread and it has been ignored every single time


    @Westie care to explain?
    Post it
  • Westie
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    Westie wrote: »
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    I stayed because I was mentally weak as ? . I left because after all those ass whoopins I couldn't take the ? no more.

    #beforreal
    Trillfate wrote: »
    That's what this kinda looks like tho.

    hoe staying bc the money as soon as that ? go bankrupt shell be on oprah talmbout how hard it was to leave him and how much hell he put her thru

    She was with him before the money though. She's just dumb.

    so she dumb... but you want ray rice to go thru hell for hitting her.... again you are showing this wasn't about her 2 begin with...

    I've already said it wasn't before I entertained your misguided ? . Does that matter?????

    lol.. then you know that makes you look dumb as ? ... you really don't have a basis for an argument if it's not about her...

    What the ? do you mean I don't have a basis? He's allowed to hit people? That's okay? It's about his actions not about her.
  • Westie
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    deadeye wrote: »
    Westie wrote: »
    deadeye wrote: »
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    Trillfate wrote: »

    ? 's hilarious and sad because these women don't even realize that.....regardless of what their reasons for staying or leaving were.....they're still acknowledging that they had a choice in the matter either way.


    All they're really doing is admitting that they either made good decisions or bad decisions.


    Bottom line, it was still their decision to stay or leave.


    Don't really understand what point they're trying to make.

    Hilarious? Why? How old are you really? Lol

    @desertrain10‌


    Not just hilarious......hilarious and sad.


    I think it's hilarious because they're refusing to take any responsibility for their poor decisions.


    Sad because all they're doing is making excuses and don't even realize that's what they're doing.
    How are they refusing to take responsibility?

    I know the answer...cuz they have a ? right?

    They're saying they had a choice.....but implying that they didn't.


    All they're doing is trying to justify poor decisions.
    Where do you see justification in under 140 characters?
  • Recaptimus_Prime360
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    Westie wrote: »
    Westie wrote: »
    Westie wrote: »
    Copper wrote: »
    Westie wrote: »
    I stayed because I was mentally weak as ? . I left because after all those ass whoopins I couldn't take the ? no more.

    #beforreal
    Trillfate wrote: »
    That's what this kinda looks like tho.

    hoe staying bc the money as soon as that ? go bankrupt shell be on oprah talmbout how hard it was to leave him and how much hell he put her thru

    She was with him before the money though. She's just dumb.

    so she dumb... but you want ray rice to go thru hell for hitting her.... again you are showing this wasn't about her 2 begin with...

    I've already said it wasn't before I entertained your misguided ? . Does that matter?????

    lol.. then you know that makes you look dumb as ? ... you really don't have a basis for an argument if it's not about her...

    What the ? do you mean I don't have a basis? He's allowed to hit people? That's okay? It's about his actions not about her.


    But you're ignoring the fact that SHE admitted to taking part of the blame as well. Again, the WHOLE vid shows her smackin him 1st. You can't just act like that didn't exist, and only focus on one side of the story.
  • DarcSkies
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    xxCivicxx wrote: »
    According to the associated press there's video and audio of her spitting on him first

    I like how this fact has been mentioned at least 4 times in this thread and it has been ignored every single time

    If so this changes things for me. If she spit on him first then he did the right thing by knocking that ? out.
  • Westie
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    Westie wrote: »
    Westie wrote: »
    Westie wrote: »
    Copper wrote: »
    Westie wrote: »
    I stayed because I was mentally weak as ? . I left because after all those ass whoopins I couldn't take the ? no more.

    #beforreal
    Trillfate wrote: »
    That's what this kinda looks like tho.

    hoe staying bc the money as soon as that ? go bankrupt shell be on oprah talmbout how hard it was to leave him and how much hell he put her thru

    She was with him before the money though. She's just dumb.

    so she dumb... but you want ray rice to go thru hell for hitting her.... again you are showing this wasn't about her 2 begin with...

    I've already said it wasn't before I entertained your misguided ? . Does that matter?????

    lol.. then you know that makes you look dumb as ? ... you really don't have a basis for an argument if it's not about her...

    What the ? do you mean I don't have a basis? He's allowed to hit people? That's okay? It's about his actions not about her.


    But you're ignoring the fact that SHE admitted to taking part of the blame as well. Again, the WHOLE vid shows her smackin him 1st. You can't just act like that didn't exist, and only focus on one side of the story.

    Lmao that's what YOU'RE doing tho sweetie.
  • blackrain
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    MR.CJ wrote: »

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    "Well now I gotta get this ? killed" is probably going through his head right now
  • Dupac
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    The news is running stories about rays good deeds
  • desertrain10
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    deadeye wrote: »
    Trillfate wrote: »

    ? 's hilarious and sad because these women don't even realize that.....regardless of what their reasons for staying or leaving were.....they're still acknowledging that they had a choice in the matter either way.


    All they're really doing is admitting that they either made good decisions or bad decisions.


    Bottom line, it was still their decision to stay or leave.


    Don't really understand what point they're trying to make.

    Hilarious? Why? How old are you really? Lol

    The point is support

    Sure these stories are inspiring to the women who are in abusive relationships and don't yet have the strength to leave

    Leaving is not always so simple a choice especially when u have children and have no means to take care of ur children

    Friend of mine i grew up with ending up living out a car for a while when her mom left her dad who was abusive

    Plus a lot of domestic violent victims arent thinking straight anyways
    ... ? his wife is staying by him and honestly this ? is prolly bringing them closer then farther apart... her Instagram and phone convo with that espn reporter shows she ain't weak minded... like I said before ray ain't getting punished for the ? he did to his wife... he getting punished for all the chicks who getting beat and don't wanna leave they ? . .

    Ray rice is being punished because he knocked his wife unconscious

    had he taken a different course of action victims of domestic abuse would have nothing to rally around

    Had roger goddell been consistent the media would have nothing to report

    And like i said yesterday its become bigger than just about what ray rice did and what the nfl chose not to do


    that's not ray fault the nfl was not consistent... they gave him a punishment that ? shoulda stood... remember this is a BILLION DOLLAR company.. do you truly think if they woulda stood by they decision they would have lost all endorsements? ? naw... this is the same company that is so arrogant that they want people to PAY THEM to perform at the super bowl.... it was said that only the Oscars made the top 10-20 most viewed shows last year everything else was football games.. given they do wanna be seen as a "family friendly" company that's tolerant... but if you ? up stand by your ? up.. don't throw yo ? up out to dry that makes you look worse on some cover up ? ... that's why you have heard people poking holes in the stories they saying...

    btw how is ray rice getting punished for hitting his wife when he already got that punishment in june? so you saying it's ok to punish a person more than once for the same offense?

    Ur right to a certain extent about the nfl dropping the ball but new evidence was introduced...the video ...which the league says they are just now seeing

    The video which contradicts rays initial claim he was only defending himself

    And still what u all seem unable to accept is ray is responsible for this whole mess

    Lol
  • thefabmd2dc
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    Its amazing how this story is ballooning from Ray Rice to Roger Goddel. Those feminists are out for blood on this scandal
    Hell the fact that Obama even commented pretty much means someone besides Ray Rice has to go down over this
  • Westie
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    deadeye wrote: »
    Trillfate wrote: »

    ? 's hilarious and sad because these women don't even realize that.....regardless of what their reasons for staying or leaving were.....they're still acknowledging that they had a choice in the matter either way.


    All they're really doing is admitting that they either made good decisions or bad decisions.


    Bottom line, it was still their decision to stay or leave.


    Don't really understand what point they're trying to make.

    Hilarious? Why? How old are you really? Lol

    The point is support

    Sure these stories are inspiring to the women who are in abusive relationships and don't yet have the strength to leave

    Leaving is not always so simple a choice especially when u have children and have no means to take care of ur children

    Friend of mine i grew up with ending up living out a car for a while when her mom left her dad who was abusive

    Plus a lot of domestic violent victims arent thinking straight anyways
    ... ? his wife is staying by him and honestly this ? is prolly bringing them closer then farther apart... her Instagram and phone convo with that espn reporter shows she ain't weak minded... like I said before ray ain't getting punished for the ? he did to his wife... he getting punished for all the chicks who getting beat and don't wanna leave they ? . .

    Ray rice is being punished because he knocked his wife unconscious

    had he taken a different course of action victims of domestic abuse would have nothing to rally around

    Had roger goddell been consistent the media would have nothing to report

    And like i said yesterday its become bigger than just about what ray rice did and what the nfl chose not to do


    that's not ray fault the nfl was not consistent... they gave him a punishment that ? shoulda stood... remember this is a BILLION DOLLAR company.. do you truly think if they woulda stood by they decision they would have lost all endorsements? ? naw... this is the same company that is so arrogant that they want people to PAY THEM to perform at the super bowl.... it was said that only the Oscars made the top 10-20 most viewed shows last year everything else was football games.. given they do wanna be seen as a "family friendly" company that's tolerant... but if you ? up stand by your ? up.. don't throw yo ? up out to dry that makes you look worse on some cover up ? ... that's why you have heard people poking holes in the stories they saying...

    btw how is ray rice getting punished for hitting his wife when he already got that punishment in june? so you saying it's ok to punish a person more than once for the same offense?

    Ur right to a certain extent about the nfl dropping the ball but new evidence was introduced...the video ...which the league says they are just now seeing

    The video which contradicts rays initial claim he was only defending himself

    And still what u all seem unable to accept is ray is responsible for this whole mess

    Lol
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  • Recaptimus_Prime360
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    Westie wrote: »
    Westie wrote: »
    Westie wrote: »
    Westie wrote: »
    Copper wrote: »
    Westie wrote: »
    I stayed because I was mentally weak as ? . I left because after all those ass whoopins I couldn't take the ? no more.

    #beforreal
    Trillfate wrote: »
    That's what this kinda looks like tho.

    hoe staying bc the money as soon as that ? go bankrupt shell be on oprah talmbout how hard it was to leave him and how much hell he put her thru

    She was with him before the money though. She's just dumb.

    so she dumb... but you want ray rice to go thru hell for hitting her.... again you are showing this wasn't about her 2 begin with...

    I've already said it wasn't before I entertained your misguided ? . Does that matter?????

    lol.. then you know that makes you look dumb as ? ... you really don't have a basis for an argument if it's not about her...

    What the ? do you mean I don't have a basis? He's allowed to hit people? That's okay? It's about his actions not about her.


    But you're ignoring the fact that SHE admitted to taking part of the blame as well. Again, the WHOLE vid shows her smackin him 1st. You can't just act like that didn't exist, and only focus on one side of the story.

    Lmao that's what YOU'RE doing tho sweetie.


    How? Show me where I've said only one of them is wrong like you. Apparently you haven't been reading the post, and only skimming them.

    From the beginning

    - I've said BOTH of them are at fault.
    - You got FULL video evidence showing her striking him 1st before they even walked in the elevator.
    - You got video of him knocking her out.
    - The press conference where BOTH of them took responsibility for their part.
    - Her IG response sayin she's ? off about how the media is portraying what happened.
    - HER pretty much tellin folks to mind their business and that it's a family issue.

    @. No need to keep defending her.

    As for your "Post it" comment regarding her spittin ob him 1st...

    http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5789752

  • Westie
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    Y'all want that dumb chick to take responsibility for getting knocked the ? out cuz she may have said his momma sucks ? ? and she may have spit on him first but ? forbid that ? get penalized.
  • deadeye
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    Him and his wife need to go on the OWN network and do an interview with Oprah as soon as possible.


    And he has to cry.


    Crying would definitely help in order to sway public opinion in his favor.
  • Westie
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    Westie wrote: »
    Westie wrote: »
    Westie wrote: »
    Westie wrote: »
    Copper wrote: »
    Westie wrote: »
    I stayed because I was mentally weak as ? . I left because after all those ass whoopins I couldn't take the ? no more.

    #beforreal
    Trillfate wrote: »
    That's what this kinda looks like tho.

    hoe staying bc the money as soon as that ? go bankrupt shell be on oprah talmbout how hard it was to leave him and how much hell he put her thru

    She was with him before the money though. She's just dumb.

    so she dumb... but you want ray rice to go thru hell for hitting her.... again you are showing this wasn't about her 2 begin with...

    I've already said it wasn't before I entertained your misguided ? . Does that matter?????

    lol.. then you know that makes you look dumb as ? ... you really don't have a basis for an argument if it's not about her...

    What the ? do you mean I don't have a basis? He's allowed to hit people? That's okay? It's about his actions not about her.


    But you're ignoring the fact that SHE admitted to taking part of the blame as well. Again, the WHOLE vid shows her smackin him 1st. You can't just act like that didn't exist, and only focus on one side of the story.

    Lmao that's what YOU'RE doing tho sweetie.


    How? Show me where I've said only one of them is wrong like you. Apparently you haven't been reading the post, and only skimming them.

    From the beginning

    - I've said BOTH of them are at fault.
    - You got FULL video evidence showing her striking him 1st before they even walked in the elevator.
    - You got video of him knocking her out.
    - The press conference where BOTH of them took responsibility for their part.
    - Her IG response sayin she's ? off about how the media is portraying what happened.
    - HER pretty much tellin folks to mind their business and that it's a family issue.

    @. No need to keep defending her.

    As for your "Post it" comment regarding her spittin ob him 1st...

    http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5789752

    I'm Not defending her. I'm saying he's a ? ? . I'm supposed to feel sorry for a ? who will knock a ? out and drag her across a ? ass floor? And I'm supposed to assign blame equally when HE wasn't hurt in the "fight"? You're high huh?
  • DarcSkies
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    Westie wrote: »
    Y'all want that dumb chick to take responsibility for getting knocked the ? out cuz she may have said his momma sucks ? ? and she may have spit on him first but ? forbid that ? get penalized.

    Question:

    If I tell a dude his Mama sucks ? ? (which I wouldnt because Im way better at insults than Mama jokes) and I spit in his face and I get knocked out....WOULD HE BE WRONG?

    And try not to tap dance around the question -_-
  • jay83
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    Solange Knowles and Ray Rice would make a hell of a couple.
  • Westie
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    DarcSkies wrote: »
    Westie wrote: »
    Y'all want that dumb chick to take responsibility for getting knocked the ? out cuz she may have said his momma sucks ? ? and she may have spit on him first but ? forbid that ? get penalized.

    Question:

    If I tell a dude his Mama sucks ? ? (which I wouldnt because Im way better at insults than Mama jokes) and I spit in his face and I get knocked out....WOULD HE BE WRONG?

    And try not to tap dance around the question -_-

    Yes. But that being said, men and women are not equal, I'm not going to treat that instance equally.
  • blackrain
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    For real...if one year ago there was a poll of all NFL fans that asked "What will be the downfall of Roger Goodell" nobody would have checked the box that said "Something involving Ray Rice"...this ? is amazing that he's facing all of this over a player that plays what's now not even a valued position in the league and was seen to be on his last legs anyway.
  • DarcSkies
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    I'm Not defending her. I'm saying he's a ? ? . I'm supposed to feel sorry for a ? who will knock a ? out and drag her across a ? ass floor? And I'm supposed to assign blame equally when HE wasn't hurt in the "fight"? You're high huh?

    Who cares that he knocked her out? Thats just a by-product of spitting in somebody's gotdamn face. What does it matter she got knocked out?

    And of course he dragged her ass. She damn sure couldnt walk on her own. Although now that you mention it ? like me should carry smelling salts on our person at all times. Never know when you might have to knock a ? out in an elevator with her spit on your forehead.

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  • DarcSkies
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    Westie wrote: »
    DarcSkies wrote: »
    Westie wrote: »
    Y'all want that dumb chick to take responsibility for getting knocked the ? out cuz she may have said his momma sucks ? ? and she may have spit on him first but ? forbid that ? get penalized.

    Question:

    If I tell a dude his Mama sucks ? ? (which I wouldnt because Im way better at insults than Mama jokes) and I spit in his face and I get knocked out....WOULD HE BE WRONG?

    And try not to tap dance around the question -_-

    Yes. But that being said, men and women are not equal, I'm not going to treat that instance equally.

    Question: Are you not aware that males are rarely physically equal in fights also. Should larger males who knock out smaller males be held to the same standard even if they do not take the first swing?

    Why did you not consider the fact that not all males are physically equal but you have no problem applying that logic to females?

  • DarcSkies
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    BTW we should hold off on saying she spit on him first. I'll believe that when I see it. News media stay lying for reasons we'll never know.

    But Hypothetically...if she did spit on him then she needed to take a nap and calm down.
  • Westie
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    DarcSkies wrote: »
    Westie wrote: »
    DarcSkies wrote: »
    Westie wrote: »
    Y'all want that dumb chick to take responsibility for getting knocked the ? out cuz she may have said his momma sucks ? ? and she may have spit on him first but ? forbid that ? get penalized.

    Question:

    If I tell a dude his Mama sucks ? ? (which I wouldnt because Im way better at insults than Mama jokes) and I spit in his face and I get knocked out....WOULD HE BE WRONG?

    And try not to tap dance around the question -_-

    Yes. But that being said, men and women are not equal, I'm not going to treat that instance equally.

    Question: Are you not aware that males are rarely physically equal in fights also. Should larger males who knock out smaller males be held to the same standard even if they do not take the first swing?

    Why did you not consider the fact that not all males are physically equal but you have no problem applying that logic to females?

    Nobody should fight. Use your words children.