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desertrain10 wrote: »desertrain10 wrote: »atribecalledgabi wrote: »Recaptimus_Prime360 wrote: »desertrain10 wrote: »Recaptimus_Prime360 wrote: »desertrain10 wrote: »LcnsdbyROYALTY wrote: »
The writer can get the D and that's about it (this is me being nice and not exhibiting feels), but the comment section is pretty interesting. As usual it's divisive, the women are saying outlandish ? , ? are responding with logic (from what I've seen). Typical day on Black Internet...
Someone called them Ovarian Americans... :joy:
I gotta use that ? !!!
Issa was wrong
But can we all agree that Lawrence contributed to the breakdown of the relationship
Meh...unknowingly.
Remember Issa wasn't communicating the issue she was having wit the relationship to Lawrence. She went to everyone else but the person she's in the relationship wit. So in his eyes, everything was all good. And when he tried to get her to talk about what was going on, she went mute.
Yea she didn't help the situation at all
But nobody is gonna be cool with their mate bumming around the crib all day, going from job to job while he or she is out trying to keep the bills up to date
And I picked up her body language around him first episode she wasn't happy
I gotta rewatch, but I think he also forgot her bday
Plus I remember Issa telling Molly he was slacking in the bedroom, they weren't going out a lot
Again Issa was wrong for what she did....But they deserve each other
B-day I give you...everything else is on her.
The one of the main things I took from their situation, is that it starts with communication first & foremost.
All that assuming the other person will eventually read your mind, hopefully figures out why you're unhappy does nothing.
That's the burden black women bear tho. Cuz I was on the "issa ain't ? " wave before Daniel for not communicating effectively...but y'all gotta realize she was carrying the load of the relationship financially and emotionally.
Lawrence was probly feeling emasculated he couldn't even contribute to bills and ? like that, let alone take his girl out for dinner regularly and do nice things for her... and a lil depressed cuz he couldn't get his app off the ground....so how do you, as the support system for this black man, broach the subject of "I need you to do more" without coming off as the nagging angry black woman stereotype on one end, but also knowing that by doing so, you're more than likely just gonna push him deeper into his funk by pointing out where he's ? up? Cuz if you do that and push him away, that sacrifice you made to hold him down goes away with nothing to show for it. No thanks, no severance package, no card, no pat on the back...I see why she bit her tongue for so long even if to her detriment.
At the start of the series they were both checked out emotionally. Carrying the relationship while watching your man ? it and sit in his feelings for however long takes a toll on you....and so does trying to do something that just won't work and you can't catch no breaks while you see your woman struggle and bust ass for both of you and you can't help.
exactly
no one is trying to give issa a pass or make out Lawrence to be a bad guy
but I can empathize with her
she was in a tough spot and she obviously loved him
That's exactly what yall trying to do and the ? is hilariously sad. If she was feeling that worn down she could've simply broke up with homie. There's no such thing as a perfect relationship , we're always gonna be annoyed by ? our s/o does, there's no excuse to cheat.
Let that ? L had cheated first (yea I call him L now) and we (? ) supported/empathized with the ? by saying " he was obviously so distraught and hurt by Issa for not supporting his dreams and talking down to him all the time, I could empathize with him , it hurt to watch
that's the everyday struggle of the black male " yall wouldn't let that ? fly for a sec lmaooo
swear yall ? are incapable of having a nuanced conversation
we've all come to the conclusion issa's actions were wrong, right?
but from what we seen, can you honestly say Lawrence was without faults? no....case closed lol
and I wasn't even mad at dude for getting with Tasha
Girl...unless you calling for issa's blood I guess that means you condone her actions to these ? lol -
atribecalledgabi wrote: »desertrain10 wrote: »desertrain10 wrote: »atribecalledgabi wrote: »Recaptimus_Prime360 wrote: »desertrain10 wrote: »Recaptimus_Prime360 wrote: »desertrain10 wrote: »LcnsdbyROYALTY wrote: »
The writer can get the D and that's about it (this is me being nice and not exhibiting feels), but the comment section is pretty interesting. As usual it's divisive, the women are saying outlandish ? , ? are responding with logic (from what I've seen). Typical day on Black Internet...
Someone called them Ovarian Americans... :joy:
I gotta use that ? !!!
Issa was wrong
But can we all agree that Lawrence contributed to the breakdown of the relationship
Meh...unknowingly.
Remember Issa wasn't communicating the issue she was having wit the relationship to Lawrence. She went to everyone else but the person she's in the relationship wit. So in his eyes, everything was all good. And when he tried to get her to talk about what was going on, she went mute.
Yea she didn't help the situation at all
But nobody is gonna be cool with their mate bumming around the crib all day, going from job to job while he or she is out trying to keep the bills up to date
And I picked up her body language around him first episode she wasn't happy
I gotta rewatch, but I think he also forgot her bday
Plus I remember Issa telling Molly he was slacking in the bedroom, they weren't going out a lot
Again Issa was wrong for what she did....But they deserve each other
B-day I give you...everything else is on her.
The one of the main things I took from their situation, is that it starts with communication first & foremost.
All that assuming the other person will eventually read your mind, hopefully figures out why you're unhappy does nothing.
That's the burden black women bear tho. Cuz I was on the "issa ain't ? " wave before Daniel for not communicating effectively...but y'all gotta realize she was carrying the load of the relationship financially and emotionally.
Lawrence was probly feeling emasculated he couldn't even contribute to bills and ? like that, let alone take his girl out for dinner regularly and do nice things for her... and a lil depressed cuz he couldn't get his app off the ground....so how do you, as the support system for this black man, broach the subject of "I need you to do more" without coming off as the nagging angry black woman stereotype on one end, but also knowing that by doing so, you're more than likely just gonna push him deeper into his funk by pointing out where he's ? up? Cuz if you do that and push him away, that sacrifice you made to hold him down goes away with nothing to show for it. No thanks, no severance package, no card, no pat on the back...I see why she bit her tongue for so long even if to her detriment.
At the start of the series they were both checked out emotionally. Carrying the relationship while watching your man ? it and sit in his feelings for however long takes a toll on you....and so does trying to do something that just won't work and you can't catch no breaks while you see your woman struggle and bust ass for both of you and you can't help.
exactly
no one is trying to give issa a pass or make out Lawrence to be a bad guy
but I can empathize with her
she was in a tough spot and she obviously loved him
That's exactly what yall trying to do and the ? is hilariously sad. If she was feeling that worn down she could've simply broke up with homie. There's no such thing as a perfect relationship , we're always gonna be annoyed by ? our s/o does, there's no excuse to cheat.
Let that ? L had cheated first (yea I call him L now) and we (? ) supported/empathized with the ? by saying " he was obviously so distraught and hurt by Issa for not supporting his dreams and talking down to him all the time, I could empathize with him , it hurt to watch that's the everyday struggle of the black male " yall wouldn't let that ? fly for a sec lmaooo
swear yall ? are incapable of having a nuanced conversation
we've all come to the conclusion issa's actions were wrong, right?
but from what we seen, can you honestly say Lawrence was without faults? no....case closed lol
and I wasn't even mad at dude for getting with Tasha
Girl...unless you calling for issa's blood I guess that means you condone her actions to these ? lolThis what I'm talking about. You can't fault her for cheating WITHOUT throwing Lawrence's name into the mix. I rest my case.
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There relationship problems and her cheating ain't got ? to do with one another. He didn't cheat, and he had every opportunity. He remained loyal. Issa did not. Case closed.
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I don't see what's so confusing. Anytime a person cheats and their relationship problems are immediately brought up, that's called trying to justify it. Period.
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Also Lawrence "corrected" the issues that plauged the relationship. He got a retail job only to get his dream job right after. Idk about the bedroom part, but lawrence cleaned up after episode 4 and beyond.
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Also Lawrence "corrected" the issues that plauged the relationship. He got a retail job only to get his dream job right after. Idk about the bedroom part, but lawrence cleaned up after episode 4 and beyond.
according to issa he'd been trying to get his ? together for 4 years
that takes a toll on a relationship
she could have left, but that is easier said than done after investing so much time and energy into a person
but lemme stop
issa is a thot undeserving of forgiveness who didn't deserve Lawrence, right? lol
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@Mastery
Nah ? quote specifically where anybody said it was cool issa cheated cuz she didn't like her relationship -
Again...Lawrence was not aware of the issues b/c ISSA was not communicatin that to him. So how is he suppose to know she was that unhappy if she wasn't saying anything.
She didn't have to come at him in a nagging type way, but she should've said something. I still don't get that. You live wit the brotha, yet you go to other people to express your feelings? Its one thing to vent to your friends, but what good is that if you're not gonna express those same feelings have to the person you got the issue wit?
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desertrain10 wrote: »Also Lawrence "corrected" the issues that plauged the relationship. He got a retail job only to get his dream job right after. Idk about the bedroom part, but lawrence cleaned up after episode 4 and beyond.
according to issa he'd been trying to get his ? together for 4 years
that takes a toll on a relationship
she could have left, but that is easier said than done after investing so much time and energy into a person
but lemme stop
issa is a thot undeserving of forgiveness who didn't deserve Lawrence, right? lol
Molly knows. But does he? That's the problem. And despite all that Molly told her own best friend to her face "You don't deserve a man like Lawrence" -
atribecalledgabi wrote: »@Mastery
Nah ? quote specifically where anybody said it was cool issa cheated cuz she didn't like her relationship
It has been more than implied several times.
The fact it can't be mentioned that Issa cheated without following it with Lawrence in some way speaks volumes.
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desertrain10 wrote: »Also Lawrence "corrected" the issues that plauged the relationship. He got a retail job only to get his dream job right after. Idk about the bedroom part, but lawrence cleaned up after episode 4 and beyond.
according to issa he'd been trying to get his ? together for 4 years
that takes a toll on a relationship
she could have left, but that is easier said than done after investing so much time and energy into a person
but lemme stop
issa is a thot undeserving of forgiveness who didn't deserve Lawrence, right? lol
? , yes. What tha ? ? Are yall seriously that incapable of taking accountabilty of one's OWN action. The ? cheated on her own. He remained loyal. If he cheated he woulda been every lying cheating dog under the ? sun. But since she cheated... Reasons. ? outta here dude. -
Recaptimus_Prime360 wrote: »Again...Lawrence was not aware of the issues b/c ISSA was not communicatin that to him. So how is he suppose to know she was that unhappy if she wasn't saying anything.
She didn't have to come at him in a nagging type way, but she should've said something. I still don't get that. Youice wit the brotha, yet you go to other people to express your feelings? Its one thing to vent to your friends, but what good is that if you'renot gonna express those same feelings you have the issue wit?
Bruh... Thank you. Sheesh. -
Agree to disagree .... I come in here and see 30 something new replies and y'all still talking about the stuff.
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Recaptimus_Prime360 wrote: »Again...Lawrence was not aware of the issues b/c ISSA was not communicatin that to him. So how is he suppose to know she was that unhappy if she wasn't saying anything.
She didn't have to come at him in a nagging type way, but she should've said something. I still don't get that. You live wit the brotha, yet you go to other people to express your feelings? Its one thing to vent to your friends, but what good is that if you're not gonna express those same feelings have to the person you got the issue wit?
Lemme be clear...I wasn't giving perspective on the cheating. Cuz that was what it was...I was tryna shed light on why the relationship was lacking on issa's end with the communication.
I've been in a situation where the other person is in their ? ....and in my experience anything you say to somebody that deep in it will come off as a slight to them and they'll just project their anger and insecurities onto you when really you were tryna help. So that was probly on her mind as to why she didn't communicate effectively...also her character is passive aggressive so I'm taking it she doesn't know HOW to do that in the first place. -
desertrain10 wrote: »This
When a man cheats it's almost a given ...or ppl try to justify his actions... it was something he wasn't getting at home
Especially if he is supposedly a "good" man/provider
When a woman cheats she's immediately dismissed as a hoe and irredeemabledesertrain10 wrote: »Issa was wrong
But can we all agree that Lawrence contributed to the breakdown of the relationshipdesertrain10 wrote: »Yea she didn't help the situation at all
But nobody is gonna be cool with their mate bumming around the crib all day, going from job to job while he or she is out trying to keep the bills up to date
And I picked up her body language around him first episode she wasn't happy
I gotta rewatch, but I think he also forgot her bday
Plus I remember Issa telling Molly he was slacking in the bedroom, they weren't going out a lot
Again Issa was wrong for what she did....But they deserve each otheratribecalledgabi wrote: »That's the burden black women bear tho. Cuz I was on the "issa ain't ? " wave before Daniel for not communicating effectively...but y'all gotta realize she was carrying the load of the relationship financially and emotionally.
Lawrence was probly feeling emasculated he couldn't even contribute to bills and ? like that, let alone take his girl out for dinner regularly and do nice things for her... and a lil depressed cuz he couldn't get his app off the ground....so how do you, as the support system for this black man, broach the subject of "I need you to do more" without coming off as the nagging angry black woman stereotype on one end, but also knowing that by doing so, you're more than likely just gonna push him deeper into his funk by pointing out where he's ? up? Cuz if you do that and push him away, that sacrifice you made to hold him down goes away with nothing to show for it. No thanks, no severance package, no card, no pat on the back...I see why she bit her tongue for so long even if to her detriment.
At the start of the series they were both checked out emotionally. Carrying the relationship while watching your man ? it and sit in his feelings for however long takes a toll on you....and so does trying to do something that just won't work and you can't catch no breaks while you see your woman struggle and bust ass for both of you and you can't help.desertrain10 wrote: »exactly
no one is trying to give issa a pass or make out Lawrence to be a bad guy
but I can empathize with her
she was in a tough spot and she obviously loved himSo I see folks trying to justify Issa cheating...
atribecalledgabi wrote: »
@desertrain10 @atribecalledgabi
Got em.
All they've been saying is:
"Issa was wrong for cheating................but"
No matter how many different ways they try to dress it up, that's all they've been saying. -
@ my fellow men, well done.
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Can we move on to season 2 or what may happen in the next one
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banginscrew901 wrote: »Can we move on to season 2 or what may happen in the next one
Hell nah ? , @ all the females in here
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banginscrew901 wrote: »Can we move on to season 2 or what may happen in the next one
I think they're gonna make Lawrence a for real savage tbh. -
LcnsdbyROYALTY wrote: »banginscrew901 wrote: »Can we move on to season 2 or what may happen in the next one
I think they're gonna make Lawrence a for real savage tbh.
This what I think though bank chick wanted him cause he was in a relationship..... either she done with him after that one night or they gone be a item for season 2. And not sure if they said anything about the history between Lawrence and the bank chick and issa -
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LcnsdbyROYALTY wrote: »banginscrew901 wrote: »Can we move on to season 2 or what may happen in the next one
I think they're gonna make Lawrence a for real savage tbh.
I kinda hope they go the route where they smash as exes and issa thinks it could lead to them getting back together but Lawrence is like "nope" and hits the Jadakiss laugh -
She shoulda just left the ? ass ? real talk
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atribecalledgabi wrote: »LcnsdbyROYALTY wrote: »banginscrew901 wrote: »Can we move on to season 2 or what may happen in the next one
I think they're gonna make Lawrence a for real savage tbh.
I kinda hope they go the route where they smash as exes and issa thinks it could lead to them getting back together but Lawrence is like "nope" and hits the Jadakiss laugh
I do think they're gonna end up smashing again. Lawrence prolly gonna ? her head up putting that vicious D on her like he did Tasha.
I wanna see Tasha fleshed out more, but we'll see. Apparently, season two is slated to air in 2018. That thought is heartbreaking. -
I think bank chick is gonna want a relationship with Lawrence...OR...they'll be in a relationship, but she's gonna be more invested in it than he is.
She'll be looked at as the "rebound", while he'll still hide his feelings for Issa. I think eventually bank chick will pick up on that, and that's when the drama develops b/t them.
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