J.Cole isn't That Great Lyrically....
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Eh, at one point I had Cole above Drake. Around the time when the So Far Gone EP dropped and Warm Up dropped, Cole's music blew me away.at the bold, you like drakes music better so thats not a surprise you'd say that.
Cole World was just a letdown by comparison and Drake has been on fire recently. It is what it is.
Cole does have some unbeatable seeming moments but Krit really comes through lyrically. Problem is it's mostly on freestyling since he is usually focused on song crafting where his lyricism is focused on delivering a message or telling a story. But he can spit when he wants to. He has hard punchlines that don't come off as corny (the latter is something Cole is having a problem with lately), and does those multis everyone likes so much.at the underlined what makes krit better lyrically?
Examples (since someone already posted As Small As a Giant):
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J.Cole is wack to me. And by wack, I mean terrible, garbage, how did he get deal etc.
He sure as hell ain't lyrical, and his music isn't good. -
Cole is the 1st rapper to evoke such emotion from poster since prime Wayne. I find it quite amusing
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So this ? ain't lyrical? Haters ain't ? yo
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Meet The Sniper wrote: »Eh, at one point I had Cole above Drake. Around the time when the So Far Gone EP dropped and Warm Up dropped, Cole's music blew me away.
Cole World was just a letdown by comparison and Drake has been on fire recently. It is what it is.
Cole does have some unbeatable seeming moments but Krit really comes through lyrically. Problem is it's mostly on freestyling since he is usually focused on song crafting where his lyricism is focused on delivering a message or telling a story. But he can spit when he wants to. He has hard punchlines that don't come off as corny (the latter is something Cole is having a problem with lately), and does those multis everyone likes so much.
Examples (since someone already posted As Small As a Giant):
i listen to both artists i may be a lil biased because i like cole more, but i really dont see how anyone can listen to them both and can say for sure one is more lyrical than the other. -
rap doctor wrote: »Cole is the 1st rapper to evoke such emotion from poster since prime Wayne. I find it quite amusing
word..u swear j.cole is as bad as soulja boy how butt hurt these ? is lmao. -
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soul rattler wrote: »So this ? ain't lyrical? Haters ain't ? yo
Paint you a perfect picture ? this is picturnary,
Man they goin have to put my picture in the dictionary,
Right next to real then put your picture next to fictionary
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Stop it 5! This dude is ass. That ? is not lyrical. Pictionary, dictionary, fictionary lol FOH, that's what dudes consider lyrical now? lol -
NothingButTheTruth wrote: »Paint you a perfect picture ? this is picturnary,
Man they goin have to put my picture in the dictionary,
Right next to real then put your picture next to fictionary
...
Stop it 5! This dude is ass. That ? is not lyrical. Pictionary, dictionary, fictionary lol FOH, that's what dudes consider lyrical now? lol
damn son, lmao, yea that ? was lame as ? .
but the poster did post one of his whackest songs ever tho -
anyone who knows how to rhyme themselves or appreciates high quality music and bars, will never be a fan of J Cole.
he is just like a work collegue who spits a couple bars at lunch break, he has no story, no identity, no swag, no poetry, no struggle and he is soooo boring.
he raps about rapping, raps about chicks and ? chicks, and raps about rapping again.
his rhyme scheme is not much, his delivery is above average, but lyrics are weak and punchlines(which are not neccesary) are garbage.
J Cole might be a good guy but he has no star quality and has zero interest to anyone, at least wack ass big sean has the dumb ? market audience.
J Cole is just a college grad who rhymes, he is not even a rapper to me and he should have chosen a proper MC name (the game in 2011/2012 is harsh to MCs)
peace. -
Number 1 album says otherwisehiphophova wrote: »anyone who knows how to rhyme themselves or appreciates high quality music and bars, will never be a fan of J Cole.
he is just like a work collegue who spits a couple bars at lunch break, he has no story, no identity, no swag, no poetry, no struggle and he is soooo boring.
he raps about rapping, raps about chicks and ? chicks, and raps about rapping again.
his rhyme scheme is not much, his delivery is above average, but lyrics are weak and punchlines(which are not neccesary) are garbage.
J Cole might be a good guy but he has no star quality and has zero interest to anyone, at least wack ass big sean has the dumb ? market audience.
J Cole is just a college grad who rhymes, he is not even a rapper to me and he should have chosen a proper MC name (the game in 2011/2012 is harsh to MCs)
peace.
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G.R.I.P. Money $$$ wrote: »i respect his campaign lyrically, hes a good lyricist, he kinda slick wit it...but drake was like that too, only reason i say drake is better is simply the better complete songs
but tbh, it would prolly be a tie or cole slaw wit a slight edge, long as he dont try no ? like on fitted cap..FRESH...ASS...? !!!
i give it to drake cause drake not only kills his own records but he will jump on your record and ? it too .. something j cole doesnt do to well .... he doesnt bring down the quality when he collabs but he def also doesnt really add to it ... just kind of there like hey im here too dont forget to buy my album ..... when drake pops up on someones record ? he usually ends up with one of the best parts on the song ....... ijs
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hiphophova wrote: »anyone who knows how to rhyme themselves or appreciates high quality music and bars, will never be a fan of J Cole.
he is just like a work collegue who spits a couple bars at lunch break, he has no story, no identity, no swag, no poetry, no struggle and he is soooo boring.
he raps about rapping, raps about chicks and ? chicks, and raps about rapping again.
his rhyme scheme is not much, his delivery is above average, but lyrics are weak and punchlines(which are not neccesary) are garbage.
J Cole might be a good guy but he has no star quality and has zero interest to anyone, at least wack ass big sean has the dumb ? market audience.
J Cole is just a college grad who rhymes, he is not even a rapper to me and he should have chosen a proper MC name (the game in 2011/2012 is harsh to MCs)
peace.
i wouldnt go that far .... Lost Ones proves that J Cole has star power maybe not that Lil Wayne i got swag star power .... but he def has the power to touch people in a special way musically and like i said Lost Ones proved that -
I actually went a little step to far, if he made it to number 1 and sitting on like 300,000+ (its obvious just my opinion) and his a goodlooking guy with a good attitude so hopefully he makes better songs i like (workout), but as a top tier MC no no.
i got bars that will spank J Cole, i used to say back in 2003/4 if i am better than you i wont listen to you, now in 2011 thats no longer fair i am way to ahead of these ? so it is what it is.
good luck to him, i rather him than Big Sean go to the top. -
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hiphophova wrote: »I actually went a little step to far, if he made it to number 1 and sitting on like 300,000+ (its obvious just my opinion) and his a goodlooking guy with a good attitude so hopefully he makes better songs i like (workout), but as a top tier MC no no.
i got bars that will spank J Cole, i used to say back in 2003/4 if i am better than you i wont listen to you, now in 2011 thats no longer fair i am way to ahead of these ? so it is what it is.
good luck to him, i rather him than Big Sean go to the top.
word play wise metephores etc ... j cole def lacks i didnt really notice it until BigGhostNamean put the boy on blast lol ..... J Coles biggest quality when it comes to hip hop are his topics .... sort of like 2 Pac .... but dude def lacks on the technical aspects of rhymes ...... -
Verse 1]NothingButTheTruth wrote: »Paint you a perfect picture ? this is picturnary,
Man they goin have to put my picture in the dictionary,
Right next to real then put your picture next to fictionary
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Stop it 5! This dude is ass. That ? is not lyrical. Pictionary, dictionary, fictionary lol FOH, that's what dudes consider lyrical now? lol
Aye ? I'm the best man
As if my best friend was getting married
Even with my eyes closed I'm something like a visionary
Paint you a perfect picture, ? this is pictionary
Man they goin' have to put my picture in the dictionary
Right next to real then put your picture right next to fictionary
Claiming that you trill but you want ? , all you ? scary
Don't try to hide from it, oh boy we see you
Claim you goin' ride, oh no we don't believe you
Help wanted, classified, you need more people
Hating mind, I'm greater sign, hey we are no equal
My life is like a movie you like 3 or 4 previews
This the city where they glad to see your soul leave you
You're body laid back like neil so evil
Cole world baby 3 below zero
Getcha life snatched and your vehicle repo
I bring it to you live you going see it no TiVo
[Hook]
Look man I'm tryna count money like a CFO you see us ?
Doing shows with hoes speaking languages that we don't know
Look here man, if love is blind then these ? can't see no mo'
They ? with the boy like a ?
If she won't go then we goin' roll cause J. Cole got a mean old flow
I looked up to some ? but they ain't ? with me no more
Chip on my shoulder like I just left the casino oh
? I been broke so don't hate me cause you don't see no dough
Hip-Hop was like Santa Claus cause no body believed no more
And then I came around, now ? watch me paint the town
A lil black, a lil brown, a lil white, we a mess
This is Carolina repping you can check-in, be our guest
Me I'm blessed, shout to Khaled while I'm howlin' we da best
All these corny rap ? tryna be my BFF
? please, go head with that old ? you rhymin'
See this that good music, so we ain't got ? in common ?
If that's wack to you, you'se a hater flatout -
word play wise metephores etc ... j cole def lacks i didnt really notice it until BigGhostNamean put the boy on blast lol ..... J Coles biggest quality when it comes to hip hop are his topics .... sort of like 2 Pac .... but dude def lacks on the technical aspects of rhymes ......
exactly, i ? wit cole though i aint saying he wack or nothing, he just not a lyrical messiah
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word play wise metephores etc ... j cole def lacks i didnt really notice it until BigGhostNamean put the boy on blast lol ..... J Coles biggest quality when it comes to hip hop are his topics .... sort of like 2 Pac .... but dude def lacks on the technical aspects of rhymes ......
breakdown is the only song i even replay anymore off the album mainly b/c of the topics in that song. but i think his topics kinda get repetitive and one reason why his album has little replay value to me. -
word play wise metephores etc ... j cole def lacks i didnt really notice it until BigGhostNamean put the boy on blast lol ..... J Coles biggest quality when it comes to hip hop are his topics .... sort of like 2 Pac .... but dude def lacks on the technical aspects of rhymes ......
yeah he's more of a straight foward lyricist like cube, face and pac. That's how i always thought of him. idk why ? don't realize that u don't always have to be technical to be lyrical. kendrick is more like nas imo. -
exactly, i ? wit cole though i aint saying he wack or nothing, he just not a lyrical messiah
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Don't know what's so hard for stans to understand about this. -
soul rattler wrote: »Don't know what's so hard for stans to understand about this.
Powerful +1 -
breakdown is the only song i even replay anymore off the album mainly b/c of the topics in that song. but i think his topics kinda get repetitive and one reason why his album has little replay value to me.
i def would have to agree with that as well ... lets see how it goes though ... cause ive heard cole say in an interview that this is his plan .... and he wants to live thru other people so im guessing we should see some shocking new subjects/topics that cole may touch on since he wants to portray everybodies life and not just his own or his close friends n fam ..... -
idoitforhiphop10 wrote: »yeah he's more of a straight foward lyricist like cube, face and pac. That's how i always thought of him. idk why ? don't realize that u don't always have to be technical to be lyrical. kendrick is more like nas imo.
def and hes super technical maybe a little too much @ times especially when trying to get a point accross ... -
i give it to drake cause drake not only kills his own records but he will jump on your record and ? it too .. something j cole doesnt do to well .... he doesnt bring down the quality when he collabs but he def also doesnt really add to it ... just kind of there like hey im here too dont forget to buy my album ..... when drake pops up on someones record ? he usually ends up with one of the best parts on the song ....... ijs
Cole didnt ? A Star is Born and Looking for trouble ?
S/N some of the most so called lyrical rappers are the worst rappers. ? get too caught up in bs like this instead of just listening for entertainment or whatever emotion the song is trying to evoke
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