Lets keep it real, NYC has had a lesser impact on the urban community than California and the south
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I'm still not understanding how you all are coming to the conclusion that NYC has a lesser impact. NYC is the cultural mecca center. When the rest of the country was backwards, NYC moved forwards. New York had the Harlem Renaissance, the Nation of Islam, and hip hop. They set the trends before the rest of the country followed suit.
The same Nation of Islam that got jealous of Malcolm X and murdered him in cold blood?
lol that's moving foward to you? Black on black violence. Blacks being jealous of other blacks?
Malcolm said it himself that he didn't think that the Nation was after him alone. He speculated that the FBI or CIA were planning something. There is also speculation that the government infiltrated the NOI to ? X. I believe that this has validity.
So the Nation of Islam was so weak willed that they let the white man infiltrate their organization and convince them to act upon their jealous ways and ? Malcolm X? lol you don't say
Oh and the Nation of Islam hate white people but their leader and founder is a white man...look it up...New York lost
? the nation of islam is from the mid-west not nyc -
ROLF at entire regions having to ? on one city in order to feel good about themselves
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harlem hustla wrote: »
Because most of those crips and blood ran down south when they were on the run and started that ? . But that's neither here nor there. Each region brought something to the table. All that ? is interlaced and you ? in here arguing about ? when clearly there is not one objective person in this ? . Talmbout cooning, all this ? is cooning. Talmbout moving bricks in the twenties, LMAO!!! ? I tell ya. Give me feelings I don't give a ? . N/H.
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Lol Midwest does not equal NY wtf
Lol @ misrepresentation of that song -
harlem hustla wrote: »
NY ? on the other hand are just copy cats
quit frontin them southern ? be reppin ny sets claimin the 5
If they got it from the westcoast they wouldnt be reppin the 5 -
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harlem hustla wrote: »harlem hustla wrote: »
NY ? on the other hand are just copy cats
quit frontin them southern ? be reppin ny sets claimin the 5
If they got it from the westcoast they wouldnt be reppin the 5
lol what?
First off ? are NOT claimin NY "sets" anywhere other than NY
And the 5 came from CHICAGO not NY, so another fail for you.
Southern ? got put on by REAL hoovers, REAL rollin 60s, etc..
Southern ? been bangin crip n blood since the 80s, knocc it off -
harlem hustla wrote: »harlem hustla wrote: »
NY ? on the other hand are just copy cats
quit frontin them southern ? be reppin ny sets claimin the 5
If they got it from the westcoast they wouldnt be reppin the 5
lol what?
First off ? are NOT claimin NY "sets" anywhere other than NY
And the 5 came from CHICAGO not NY, so another fail for you.
Southern ? got put on by REAL hoovers, REAL rollin 60s, etc..
Southern ? been bangin crip n blood since the 80s, knocc it off
Not according to gangland http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDjQInWVuSc -
I know where the 5 came from peace to the almighty peoples nation nd only southwestern states got real bloods n crips the rest of them ? is copyin ny
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LOl, is this ? really tryna say crips n bloods down south got it from NY? smh
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New York cats are really about their $. However NYC just isn't where it's at right now. And they'll go no where if they continue to ? souths style
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LOl, is this ? really tryna say crips n bloods down south got it from NY? smh
Yes ? some of them did. -
No they didnt ? , Down south ? were bangin Cs n Bs BEFORE NY, what dont you get about that?
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DAMN, crazy how ? in the south had less resources than NY but still had the biggest impact in the civil rights movement
DAMN, how df California way across the country but started the blacc panthers, the most dangerous organization in US history that had the govt SHOOK.
What has NY done? oh yea, yall made rap so its even LOL
powerful post. -
Black Jerry Maguire wrote: »
DEAD @ c-o-n ceited -
Impact on the Urban Community as a whole........
Black Panthers - San Fran / Oakland
Black Guerrilla Family - San Fran
Bloods / Crips - LA
Surenos / Nortenos - Northern / Southern Cali
Your favorite weed - Cali
Movies that influenced urban culture- Boyz N The Hood, Menace To Society, - LA. The Mack - Oakland.
Technology - Facebook, Apple, Google, Twitter, Ebay, Yahoo (all Bay Area ? )
The Porn Industry - San Fernando Valley (LA)
You go to NYC film school for acting.......then you come to Hollywood/LA to get on.
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LOl, is this ? really tryna say crips n bloods down south got it from NY? smh
I think he may be referring to the UBN -
I feel like theres a inferiority complex going on here. People shittin on NYC because they city was never mentioned as one of the greats, as a mecca, as a powerhouse. NYC is a great city, Great MCs came from NY, trending fashions come from NY, ? in the south get they steez from NYC about 6 months latge, I mean i hate to say it but its true. NYC is a powerhouse in buisness, I mean NYC is one of the best cities in the world and some people on this site feel the need to TRY to make it look bad so it can stoop down to their level because they know NYC is better. This is coming from a niga who live in Canada and reps NC. But i lived in NYC for 7 years n im riding with NYC. I dont care how many no signs, feelings, or whacks I get. Theres no place like NY and its had the largest impact on urban culture.
Jay-z
Nas
Biggie
Big Pun
LL Cool J
Wu-tang
Mobb deep
Gangstarr
AZ
Onyx
Rakim
Run DMC
50 cent
CNN
Big Pun
Big L
I mean the list goes on for days. I respect other coast and their music and impact. I love the south, When im 30 and up I want to raise my kids and get married in the south. I love the west coast for the swag they had back in the day and the music they providing for us right now, I love the midwest. ? I love america. But i mean I cant just ? on NYC and ignore what its done for the urban culture. Lets be real here -
@ blackdemo
All the ppl u listed are either dead or have fallen off the radar and have no real impact on the Hip Hop culture as a whole. The South and West are running the game right now as far as cultural influence eg, fashion, southern influenced sound (boom bap been dead since the 90's) and other traits that are distinctly southern/western. I lived in South Africa till I was 18 and now I live in the UK and I can tell you that NY cats aint makin no impact anywhere apart from their hometown.
Hip Hop as the rest of the world knows it, is the West/South style hip hop. East Coast been fell off since the 90's and its mostly the old heads and the nostalgic ? that are still living in the 90's that ? with NYC cats.
Jay-Z and 50 are the only reason NY stayed on the map, otherwise NYC woulda fallen off long time ago. -
zay_24 wrote:...The only thing NY done started was rap...
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If you want to argue he fact that new yorkers were the first to rock golds in the hip hop world than u have an argument. But if your arguing the fact the NYC was the first to wear golds aesthetically in general than the above statement is invalid. People have been wearing gold teeth as a fashion statement in the south during a time that predates hip hop itself. Blacks in Miami have been wearing them since the 60's
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no ? duh.
Its not so much that NYC has no impact, its that NYC is too culturally distinct to truly be mimicked or understood.
NYC ? are a breed of their own. Not only are a good portion of them *NOT* even ? in sense of being historically African American (good portion of them are 1st-3rd generation immigrants) but they grew up in close living conditions with Jews, Italians, Irish, Polish, Koreans, Chinese, Ricans and Dominicans. No where else in the nation have Black people lived in that close of space with that many ethnicities. And this is not even mentioning the cultural effect Islam has on NYC ? and the East Coast period.
All West Coast and Midwest ? are former Southerners at some point in their family history. Thats why the cultures between the South, Midwest, and West aren't dramatically different from each other and you see how ? like BG and Boosie get play all the way from Detroit to LA.
This is why there is such huge difference in the cultures of NYC ? and the rest of the nation........ -
lmao @ the amount of feelings that have been caught in this thread.
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Knives Amilli wrote: »No where else in the nation have Black people lived in that close of space with that many ethnicities. .
Bay Area CA
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West coast where all the original studio gangsters came out from, them ? actors, bunch of mark buster ol proper slang talkin ass ? , n they ? too, got no hands so they gotta shoot ? while goin 20mph smh aint no drivebys in ny we do walkbys boy...oh n ya gettin ya ass whooped by fatheads (messicans) when in the east them ? targets....
Cali lost ....