Iphone users, what are you expecting from the Iphone 5?

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  • rage
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    @ monk

    1) If OS preference is subjective then how in the world can you say that Android has caught up to or surpassed iOS? There is nothing definitive to say that Android has caught up to iOS...especially when it started out as a BB clone?

    2) Again you're showing how little you know of mobile chips. Samsung, Motorola, Sony, HTC, Nokia all use the same Snapdragon S4. Its a dual core SoC that just came out, its designed to work on all of these phones regardless of the other components and needs of the OS. Apple's A6 is a completely custom dual core SoC that has been specifically designed to work with 1 product and 1 OS. This produces a much more power efficient chip which produces faster speeds. Again you are showing you're ignorance when it comes to mobile processors...speed tests...test EVERYTHING from frame rates to multitasking. The iPhone has always had less RAM than other phones but because the SoC and the OS are designed for each other....it always manages to stomp out the competition. Battery life on the iPhone5 is damn near 20 hours and then some with everyday use. Its going to also be a MINUTE before everybody else catches up to the iPhone's screen tech. Its a completely proprietary screen that is thinner and far more power efficient than OLED screens. It manages to be sharper while drawing far less power. Now while other phones may have a better screen or a faster processor, or better battery life, or better camera....none of them will have ALL of these things because none of them have the resources to research, design and build every component from the ground up for their specific device.

    3) We argue and debate all kinds of ? on message boards...from who won a battle to which superhero can "body" another superhero....its the nature of being on a message board. People are who are more informed or enthusiastic about a certain subject on these message boards are going to be vocal about them...there is a dude in iLLPix writing titangraphs about ? , interracial porn, producers and who the ? else knows....its whatever.
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  • The Lonious Monk
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    rage wrote: »
    @ monk

    1) If OS preference is subjective then how in the world can you say that Android has caught up to or surpassed iOS? There is nothing definitive to say that Android has caught up to iOS...especially when it started out as a BB clone?

    Why is this point so hard for you to grasp? I didn't say anything about the Android OS surpassing the iOS. I said I like the Android OS better.

    I said the iPhone has been surpassed because it has. It is no longer the undisputed king it once was. Again, at one point, iPhone was the best thing out and by the time anything caught up, a new iPhone hit the market. Now, it's not like that anymore. Take the iPhone 5. You can throw out all the specs you want claiming it's the best. And hey, for the moment, it might even be. But guess what? In 3 to 6 months, all of those specs will have been eclipsed. That's how it goes now. iPhone is no longer some kind of standard bearer for smartphones. It's just another wolf in the pack.
    2) Again you're showing how little you know of mobile chips. Samsung, Motorola, Sony, HTC, Nokia all use the same Snapdragon S4. Its a dual core SoC that just came out, its designed to work on all of these phones regardless of the other components and needs of the OS. Apple's A6 is a completely custom dual core SoC that has been specifically designed to work with 1 product and 1 OS. This produces a much more power efficient chip which produces faster speeds. Again you are showing you're ignorance when it comes to mobile processors...speed tests...test EVERYTHING from frame rates to multitasking. The iPhone has always had less RAM than other phones but because the SoC and the OS are designed for each other....it always manages to stomp out the competition. Battery life on the iPhone5 is damn near 20 hours and then some with everyday use. Its going to also be a MINUTE before everybody else catches up to the iPhone's screen tech. Its a completely proprietary screen that is thinner and far more power efficient than OLED screens. It manages to be sharper while drawing far less power. Now while other phones may have a better screen or a faster processor, or better battery life, or better camera....none of them will have ALL of these things because none of them have the resources to research, design and build every component from the ground up for their specific device.

    What the ? are you talking about dude? Do you honestly think that the Snapdragon S4 is the last chip that Android phones will ever use? I got my Thunderbolt last year and it was a single core chip which was the standard then. It's been little more than a year, and already quad core chips are becoming the standard. You're extremely slow in the head if you think that just because the iPhone 5 has popped up, that they are going to stop making new tech and upgrading chips for Android phones.

    Also, you love calling me ignorant, but you seem to fail to understand anything I'm saying. Being faster =/= better at multitasking. Memory determines how much can be run at one time. Less RAM means fewer processes can run at any given time. So it doesn't matter how fast the phone is. If it has less RAM it's not going to be able to do as many things at once. It may be faster in completing the tasks that it does, but it will still be limited in what it can do.

    The Razr Maxx already has over 21 hours of talk time, and they are upgrading that phone so iPhone 5 isn't even the best in that area.

    Again, I'll give you the screen for iPhone, but given the the standard for Android phones is HD now, the difference in quality really isn't as significant as you're tyring to make it.
    3) We argue and debate all kinds of ? on message boards...from who won a battle to which superhero can "body" another superhero....its the nature of being on a message board. People are who are more informed or enthusiastic about a certain subject on these message boards are going to be vocal about them...there is a dude in iLLPix writing titangraphs about ? , interracial porn, producers and who the ? else knows....its whatever.

    True, but people cape for phones off messageboards too. And sorry but iPhone users just happen to be the worse. Remember that whole fiasco about Instagram going to Android. Why would anyone be upset about something like that? Yet tons of people in the iPhone community were ? .
  • Dr.Chemix
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    bruh...that ? can't read bruh...

    he don't even know what "drag and drop" means
  • rage
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    rage wrote: »
    @ monk

    1) If OS preference is subjective then how in the world can you say that Android has caught up to or surpassed iOS? There is nothing definitive to say that Android has caught up to iOS...especially when it started out as a BB clone?

    Why is this point so hard for you to grasp? I didn't say anything about the Android OS surpassing the iOS. I said I like the Android OS better.

    I said the iPhone has been surpassed because it has. It is no longer the undisputed king it once was. Again, at one point, iPhone was the best thing out and by the time anything caught up, a new iPhone hit the market. Now, it's not like that anymore. Take the iPhone 5. You can throw out all the specs you want claiming it's the best. And hey, for the moment, it might even be. But guess what? In 3 to 6 months, all of those specs will have been eclipsed. That's how it goes now. iPhone is no longer some kind of standard bearer for smartphones. It's just another wolf in the pack.
    2) Again you're showing how little you know of mobile chips. Samsung, Motorola, Sony, HTC, Nokia all use the same Snapdragon S4. Its a dual core SoC that just came out, its designed to work on all of these phones regardless of the other components and needs of the OS. Apple's A6 is a completely custom dual core SoC that has been specifically designed to work with 1 product and 1 OS. This produces a much more power efficient chip which produces faster speeds. Again you are showing you're ignorance when it comes to mobile processors...speed tests...test EVERYTHING from frame rates to multitasking. The iPhone has always had less RAM than other phones but because the SoC and the OS are designed for each other....it always manages to stomp out the competition. Battery life on the iPhone5 is damn near 20 hours and then some with everyday use. Its going to also be a MINUTE before everybody else catches up to the iPhone's screen tech. Its a completely proprietary screen that is thinner and far more power efficient than OLED screens. It manages to be sharper while drawing far less power. Now while other phones may have a better screen or a faster processor, or better battery life, or better camera....none of them will have ALL of these things because none of them have the resources to research, design and build every component from the ground up for their specific device.

    What the ? are you talking about dude? Do you honestly think that the Snapdragon S4 is the last chip that Android phones will ever use? I got my Thunderbolt last year and it was a single core chip which was the standard then. It's been little more than a year, and already quad core chips are becoming the standard. You're extremely slow in the head if you think that just because the iPhone 5 has popped up, that they are going to stop making new tech and upgrading chips for Android phones.

    Also, you love calling me ignorant, but you seem to fail to understand anything I'm saying. Being faster =/= better at multitasking. Memory determines how much can be run at one time. Less RAM means fewer processes can run at any given time. So it doesn't matter how fast the phone is. If it has less RAM it's not going to be able to do as many things at once. It may be faster in completing the tasks that it does, but it will still be limited in what it can do.

    The Razr Maxx already has over 21 hours of talk time, and they are upgrading that phone so iPhone 5 isn't even the best in that area.

    Again, I'll give you the screen for iPhone, but given the the standard for Android phones is HD now, the difference in quality really isn't as significant as you're tyring to make it.
    3) We argue and debate all kinds of ? on message boards...from who won a battle to which superhero can "body" another superhero....its the nature of being on a message board. People are who are more informed or enthusiastic about a certain subject on these message boards are going to be vocal about them...there is a dude in iLLPix writing titangraphs about ? , interracial porn, producers and who the ? else knows....its whatever.

    True, but people cape for phones off messageboards too. And sorry but iPhone users just happen to be the worse. Remember that whole fiasco about Instagram going to Android. Why would anyone be upset about something like that? Yet tons of people in the iPhone community were ? .

    1) Fine you like the OS better...personal prefernce...so its whatever.

    2) Ugghhhh AGAIN....it doesnt matter what the Snapdragon S5 will be...the A6x or the A7 will be a faster processor. And it will be the same for the S6 and in comparison the A8. Because again the Snapdragon is a GENERIC SoC. Its not customized for Android or Windows Phone...or even for that matter to any specific manufacturer. It has to be able to fit into any number of different of component configurations and OS's so it will never be optimized fully for just one. In contrast, the Ax series is CUSTOM designed and optimized for ONE set of components and ONE OS. The iPhone will ALWAYS have that advantage. So it doesnt matter what the next Snapdragon processor will be, the next Ax SoC will beat it...it did with 4, the 4s, the 5 and this will continue.

    Once again, the amount of RAM is not the only factor in the ability to multitask. Its how that RAM is used, and if you even bother to read those tests you'd see that because the SoCs and OS are designed for each other they out perform generic SoCs with twice as much RAM. 21 hours talk time...the iPhone has 20+hours with talk, LTE surfing, Video watching etc. Your smoking some STRONG STRONG stuff if you dont think the iPhone is still the standard bearer for smartphones. 5 Million iPhones sold in 3 days a (forecasted to sell over 200 million) and its not the King? Fastest processor, best screen, thinnest/lightest, most power efficient phone on the market and its not the King? Samsung specifically targets the iPhone with all their ads for the S3 and the iPhone is not the King? What other "wolf in the pack" can boast that?

    3) YOU HAVE got to be joking...FANDROIDS are the ? WORST. Just look on this board...these lames come in to an iPhone thread whining and crying about Android like a bunch of 12 year old school girls with skinned knees and ? , when nobody even mentioned Android. Go to ANY tech site...ANY...and read the comments about ANYTHING iPhone related...its NOTHING but a bunch of wack ass nerds harping on and on about how you can "overclock", "customize" "tweak" and other useless ? that 90% of Android users could give two ? about... fill the comment sections. Fandroids ARE FAR worse than any Apple "fanboy".
  • JDSTAYWITIT
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    my ether button has ran out of juice going thru these last coulpe of pages....
  • Dr.Chemix
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    Yo @LoniousMonk...just holla at that goofy ass ? in a couple of months. This ? said no matter what the snapdragon will modify into the A6x or A7 will be faster

    And he says fandroid are far worse than apple? lol...

    ? is literally saying a year from now the A6x/A7 will be faster...what a ? ?

    this ? betta not be working in I.T.

    I will find him and shoot him myself
  • The Lonious Monk
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    Dr.Chemix wrote: »
    Yo @LoniousMonk...just holla at that goofy ass ? in a couple of months. This ? said no matter what the snapdragon will modify into the A6x or A7 will be faster

    And he says fandroid are far worse than apple? lol...

    ? is literally saying a year from now the A6x/A7 will be faster...what a ? ?

    this ? betta not be working in I.T.

    I will find him and shoot him myself

    lol yeah, at that point was like "? it, there is no point."

    Like what kinda logic is that? Maybe the A6 will be faster when it comes out, but what difference does that make if the next processor for Android is out in 4 months and the next chip for the iPhone doesn't come out for a year and a half?

    And it kills me that he keeps on bringing up these specs and missing my entire point. Who gives a ? if the iPhone has the best now. It's not the standard bearer because we all know it will be eclipsed soon just like every other phone that's counted as the top dog. That title is always only held briefly.
  • DaBull
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    sooo the iphone 5 has built in hotspot??? cuz on apple.com it asks if you want the $50 data plan with mobile hotspot, im tryna avoid paying that but would like to have the hot spot as a option
  • The Lonious Monk
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    DaBull wrote: »
    sooo the iphone 5 has built in hotspot??? cuz on apple.com it asks if you want the $50 data plan with mobile hotspot, im tryna avoid paying that but would like to have the hot spot as a option

    I would think that depends on the carrier. Most phones have those capabilities, but whether you can use them or not is carrier dependent. For instance, now Verizon has these shared data plans. For them, mobile hotspot usage is free, but it takes away from your overall data allotment for the month.
  • The Lonious Monk
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    I just noticed this when I went to youtube.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hP5UxpUbA1k&feature=related

    It's a pretty good and very unbiased comparison between the SG3 and iPhone 5. For those that don't want to watch it, here are the basic findings.

    iPhone is smaller, lighter and sturdier (facts) and easier to use with one hand (his opinion but might as well be fact).
    SG3 has a bigger screen (fact).
    iPhone has a sharper display, but SG3 is true HD and handles darker colors better (facts).
    SG3 batter lasts longer (he judged based on 3G talk time) ( his opinion based on his experience).
    SG3 has better hardware, but iPhone is noticeably faster when opening apps and surfing the web (fact).
    SG3 has better software apps out of the box (his opinion).
    Apple has better support (his opinion).
    Both cameras are good, but the iPhone has better image stablization (his opinion).
    SG3 has a removable battery and expandable memory, iPhone doesn't (fact).

    Basically, his conclusion that they were essentialy on the same level, and which is better would come solely down to what you were looking for. Seemed like he believed the size was more of a determining factor than anything else. And the guy's name is "AnythingApplePro" so if he's biased it's probably towards the iPhone but honestly I didn't see any bias in his review.

    One interesting thing though is that in one of his other videos he says he doesn't reccommend getting this phone if you already have an iPhone 4S because it's not enough of an improvement to warrant the extra money.
  • rage
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    Dr.Chemix wrote: »
    Yo @LoniousMonk...just holla at that goofy ass ? in a couple of months. This ? said no matter what the snapdragon will modify into the A6x or A7 will be faster

    And he says fandroid are far worse than apple? lol...

    ? is literally saying a year from now the A6x/A7 will be faster...what a ? ?

    this ? betta not be working in I.T.

    I will find him and shoot him myself

    lol yeah, at that point was like "? it, there is no point."

    Like what kinda logic is that? Maybe the A6 will be faster when it comes out, but what difference does that make if the next processor for Android is out in 4 months and the next chip for the iPhone doesn't come out for a year and a half?

    And it kills me that he keeps on bringing up these specs and missing my entire point. Who gives a ? if the iPhone has the best now. It's not the standard bearer because we all know it will be eclipsed soon just like every other phone that's counted as the top dog. That title is always only held briefly.

    None of this is actually true but go ahead...believe what you want.

  • CJ
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    Lol are you ? really typing paragraphs at each other over apple/Samsung? Rofl
  • The Lonious Monk
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    rage wrote: »
    Dr.Chemix wrote: »
    Yo @LoniousMonk...just holla at that goofy ass ? in a couple of months. This ? said no matter what the snapdragon will modify into the A6x or A7 will be faster

    And he says fandroid are far worse than apple? lol...

    ? is literally saying a year from now the A6x/A7 will be faster...what a ? ?

    this ? betta not be working in I.T.

    I will find him and shoot him myself

    lol yeah, at that point was like "? it, there is no point."

    Like what kinda logic is that? Maybe the A6 will be faster when it comes out, but what difference does that make if the next processor for Android is out in 4 months and the next chip for the iPhone doesn't come out for a year and a half?

    And it kills me that he keeps on bringing up these specs and missing my entire point. Who gives a ? if the iPhone has the best now. It's not the standard bearer because we all know it will be eclipsed soon just like every other phone that's counted as the top dog. That title is always only held briefly.

    None of this is actually true but go ahead...believe what you want.

    lol how would you know? Do you have some kind of timetable for when the next set of chips will be out? It's a fact there will be something faster out for Android phones in the near future. If you don't believe that then you're just in fanboy denial.
  • rage
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    rage wrote: »
    Dr.Chemix wrote: »
    Yo @LoniousMonk...just holla at that goofy ass ? in a couple of months. This ? said no matter what the snapdragon will modify into the A6x or A7 will be faster

    And he says fandroid are far worse than apple? lol...

    ? is literally saying a year from now the A6x/A7 will be faster...what a ? ?

    this ? betta not be working in I.T.

    I will find him and shoot him myself

    lol yeah, at that point was like "? it, there is no point."

    Like what kinda logic is that? Maybe the A6 will be faster when it comes out, but what difference does that make if the next processor for Android is out in 4 months and the next chip for the iPhone doesn't come out for a year and a half?

    And it kills me that he keeps on bringing up these specs and missing my entire point. Who gives a ? if the iPhone has the best now. It's not the standard bearer because we all know it will be eclipsed soon just like every other phone that's counted as the top dog. That title is always only held briefly.

    None of this is actually true but go ahead...believe what you want.

    lol how would you know? Do you have some kind of timetable for when the next set of chips will be out? It's a fact there will be something faster out for Android phones in the near future. If you don't believe that then you're just in fanboy denial.

    But thats not what you said is it? You said in the next 4 months (not true)...the next Ax series chip will be out in a year and half (again not true)...dont just make ? up to prove a point. Stick to facts.
  • rage
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  • The Lonious Monk
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    rage wrote: »
    rage wrote: »
    Dr.Chemix wrote: »
    Yo @LoniousMonk...just holla at that goofy ass ? in a couple of months. This ? said no matter what the snapdragon will modify into the A6x or A7 will be faster

    And he says fandroid are far worse than apple? lol...

    ? is literally saying a year from now the A6x/A7 will be faster...what a ? ?

    this ? betta not be working in I.T.

    I will find him and shoot him myself

    lol yeah, at that point was like "? it, there is no point."

    Like what kinda logic is that? Maybe the A6 will be faster when it comes out, but what difference does that make if the next processor for Android is out in 4 months and the next chip for the iPhone doesn't come out for a year and a half?

    And it kills me that he keeps on bringing up these specs and missing my entire point. Who gives a ? if the iPhone has the best now. It's not the standard bearer because we all know it will be eclipsed soon just like every other phone that's counted as the top dog. That title is always only held briefly.

    None of this is actually true but go ahead...believe what you want.

    lol how would you know? Do you have some kind of timetable for when the next set of chips will be out? It's a fact there will be something faster out for Android phones in the near future. If you don't believe that then you're just in fanboy denial.

    But thats not what you said is it? You said in the next 4 months (not true)...the next Ax series chip will be out in a year and half (again not true)...dont just make ? up to prove a point. Stick to facts.

    I'm pretty sure I asked you a hypothetical question but don't let reading and comprehending get in the way of your fanboyism.
  • qtipp73
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    wow Rage killed yall ? . I could care less about either phone but this ? gave u ? straight FACTS about the Iphone 5 and yall still tryin to argue the s3 is better lol. its clear to me who won this argument.
  • rage
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    rage wrote: »
    rage wrote: »
    Dr.Chemix wrote: »
    Yo @LoniousMonk...just holla at that goofy ass ? in a couple of months. This ? said no matter what the snapdragon will modify into the A6x or A7 will be faster

    And he says fandroid are far worse than apple? lol...

    ? is literally saying a year from now the A6x/A7 will be faster...what a ? ?

    this ? betta not be working in I.T.

    I will find him and shoot him myself

    lol yeah, at that point was like "? it, there is no point."

    Like what kinda logic is that? Maybe the A6 will be faster when it comes out, but what difference does that make if the next processor for Android is out in 4 months and the next chip for the iPhone doesn't come out for a year and a half?

    And it kills me that he keeps on bringing up these specs and missing my entire point. Who gives a ? if the iPhone has the best now. It's not the standard bearer because we all know it will be eclipsed soon just like every other phone that's counted as the top dog. That title is always only held briefly.

    None of this is actually true but go ahead...believe what you want.

    lol how would you know? Do you have some kind of timetable for when the next set of chips will be out? It's a fact there will be something faster out for Android phones in the near future. If you don't believe that then you're just in fanboy denial.

    But thats not what you said is it? You said in the next 4 months (not true)...the next Ax series chip will be out in a year and half (again not true)...dont just make ? up to prove a point. Stick to facts.

    I'm pretty sure I asked you a hypothetical question but don't let reading and comprehending get in the way of your fanboyism.

    When you give time lines to prove a point...its not hypothetical. Every major Android chipset has come out already. The A5x and or A6 will be out next year.
  • The Lonious Monk
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    rage wrote: »
    rage wrote: »
    rage wrote: »
    Dr.Chemix wrote: »
    Yo @LoniousMonk...just holla at that goofy ass ? in a couple of months. This ? said no matter what the snapdragon will modify into the A6x or A7 will be faster

    And he says fandroid are far worse than apple? lol...

    ? is literally saying a year from now the A6x/A7 will be faster...what a ? ?

    this ? betta not be working in I.T.

    I will find him and shoot him myself

    lol yeah, at that point was like "? it, there is no point."

    Like what kinda logic is that? Maybe the A6 will be faster when it comes out, but what difference does that make if the next processor for Android is out in 4 months and the next chip for the iPhone doesn't come out for a year and a half?

    And it kills me that he keeps on bringing up these specs and missing my entire point. Who gives a ? if the iPhone has the best now. It's not the standard bearer because we all know it will be eclipsed soon just like every other phone that's counted as the top dog. That title is always only held briefly.

    None of this is actually true but go ahead...believe what you want.

    lol how would you know? Do you have some kind of timetable for when the next set of chips will be out? It's a fact there will be something faster out for Android phones in the near future. If you don't believe that then you're just in fanboy denial.

    But thats not what you said is it? You said in the next 4 months (not true)...the next Ax series chip will be out in a year and half (again not true)...dont just make ? up to prove a point. Stick to facts.

    I'm pretty sure I asked you a hypothetical question but don't let reading and comprehending get in the way of your fanboyism.

    When you give time lines to prove a point...its not hypothetical. Every major Android chipset has come out already. The A5x and or A6 will be out next year.

    lol What? As long as I don't claim those time lines are factual, then they are hypothetical. The point wasn't the dates, but that tech will continue to progress and your claims about the iPhone chip will be shortlived.

    And again, your comments about the Android chipset are nonsense. I've had my phone for less than two years and in that time there have been 3 maybe 4 advances in the chip technology used in Android phones. Your belief that there won't be any movement in the near future is laughable and just plain silly.
  • rage
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    rage wrote: »
    rage wrote: »
    rage wrote: »
    Dr.Chemix wrote: »
    Yo @LoniousMonk...just holla at that goofy ass ? in a couple of months. This ? said no matter what the snapdragon will modify into the A6x or A7 will be faster

    And he says fandroid are far worse than apple? lol...

    ? is literally saying a year from now the A6x/A7 will be faster...what a ? ?

    this ? betta not be working in I.T.

    I will find him and shoot him myself

    lol yeah, at that point was like "? it, there is no point."

    Like what kinda logic is that? Maybe the A6 will be faster when it comes out, but what difference does that make if the next processor for Android is out in 4 months and the next chip for the iPhone doesn't come out for a year and a half?

    And it kills me that he keeps on bringing up these specs and missing my entire point. Who gives a ? if the iPhone has the best now. It's not the standard bearer because we all know it will be eclipsed soon just like every other phone that's counted as the top dog. That title is always only held briefly.

    None of this is actually true but go ahead...believe what you want.

    lol how would you know? Do you have some kind of timetable for when the next set of chips will be out? It's a fact there will be something faster out for Android phones in the near future. If you don't believe that then you're just in fanboy denial.

    But thats not what you said is it? You said in the next 4 months (not true)...the next Ax series chip will be out in a year and half (again not true)...dont just make ? up to prove a point. Stick to facts.

    I'm pretty sure I asked you a hypothetical question but don't let reading and comprehending get in the way of your fanboyism.

    When you give time lines to prove a point...its not hypothetical. Every major Android chipset has come out already. The A5x and or A6 will be out next year.

    lol What? As long as I don't claim those time lines are factual, then they are hypothetical. The point wasn't the dates, but that tech will continue to progress and your claims about the iPhone chip will be shortlived.

    And again, your comments about the Android chipset are nonsense. I've had my phone for less than two years and in that time there have been 3 maybe 4 advances in the chip technology used in Android phones. Your belief that there won't be any movement in the near future is laughable and just plain silly.


    Why is this so ? hard for you to grasp???? I never said there wont be advancements within chipsets for Android. I just said that the Ax series will always outpace them. I have also given reason why this is true, and given historical and current examples of this. Again the Ax series of chips will be faster than its Android counter part because the Snapdragom, Omap, Tegra all are generic SoCs. They are all designed to work with a variety of components and OSes. They will never be customized for one specific manufacturer or OS. Why do you keep ignoring this point??
  • The Lonious Monk
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    rage wrote: »
    rage wrote: »
    rage wrote: »
    Dr.Chemix wrote: »
    Yo @LoniousMonk...just holla at that goofy ass ? in a couple of months. This ? said no matter what the snapdragon will modify into the A6x or A7 will be faster

    And he says fandroid are far worse than apple? lol...

    ? is literally saying a year from now the A6x/A7 will be faster...what a ? ?

    this ? betta not be working in I.T.

    I will find him and shoot him myself

    lol yeah, at that point was like "? it, there is no point."

    Like what kinda logic is that? Maybe the A6 will be faster when it comes out, but what difference does that make if the next processor for Android is out in 4 months and the next chip for the iPhone doesn't come out for a year and a half?

    And it kills me that he keeps on bringing up these specs and missing my entire point. Who gives a ? if the iPhone has the best now. It's not the standard bearer because we all know it will be eclipsed soon just like every other phone that's counted as the top dog. That title is always only held briefly.

    None of this is actually true but go ahead...believe what you want.

    lol how would you know? Do you have some kind of timetable for when the next set of chips will be out? It's a fact there will be something faster out for Android phones in the near future. If you don't believe that then you're just in fanboy denial.

    But thats not what you said is it? You said in the next 4 months (not true)...the next Ax series chip will be out in a year and half (again not true)...dont just make ? up to prove a point. Stick to facts.

    I'm pretty sure I asked you a hypothetical question but don't let reading and comprehending get in the way of your fanboyism.

    When you give time lines to prove a point...its not hypothetical. Every major Android chipset has come out already. The A5x and or A6 will be out next year.

    lol What? As long as I don't claim those time lines are factual, then they are hypothetical. The point wasn't the dates, but that tech will continue to progress and your claims about the iPhone chip will be shortlived.

    And again, your comments about the Android chipset are nonsense. I've had my phone for less than two years and in that time there have been 3 maybe 4 advances in the chip technology used in Android phones. Your belief that there won't be any movement in the near future is laughable and just plain silly.


    Why is this so ? hard for you to grasp???? I never said there wont be advancements within chipsets for Android. I just said that the Ax series will always outpace them. I have also given reason why this is true, and given historical and current examples of this. Again the Ax series of chips will be faster than its Android counter part because the Snapdragom, Omap, Tegra all are generic SoCs. They are all designed to work with a variety of components and OSes. They will never be customized for one specific manufacturer or OS. Why do you keep ignoring this point??

    That's irrelevant. Whose talking about one processor outpacing another one? No one, but you. I'm saying that as good as that chip might be, another one will be out in a few months that's better. Again, who cares if the iPhone 6 has an even faster chip, that doesn't change the fact that any chip's time at the top will be limited.

    Anyway, I'm going to take the advice given earlier and let it go. You're just arguing around in circles for no reason. I've already posted a video the conclusion was that neither the SG3 or iPhone5 had a clear advantage of the other and which is better depends on personal preference. That was from an Apple fan that had actually spent time using both phones. I'm going to say his opinion probably means more than yours.
  • rage
    rage Members Posts: 5,858 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    rage wrote: »
    rage wrote: »
    rage wrote: »
    rage wrote: »
    Dr.Chemix wrote: »
    Yo @LoniousMonk...just holla at that goofy ass ? in a couple of months. This ? said no matter what the snapdragon will modify into the A6x or A7 will be faster

    And he says fandroid are far worse than apple? lol...

    ? is literally saying a year from now the A6x/A7 will be faster...what a ? ?

    this ? betta not be working in I.T.

    I will find him and shoot him myself

    lol yeah, at that point was like "? it, there is no point."

    Like what kinda logic is that? Maybe the A6 will be faster when it comes out, but what difference does that make if the next processor for Android is out in 4 months and the next chip for the iPhone doesn't come out for a year and a half?

    And it kills me that he keeps on bringing up these specs and missing my entire point. Who gives a ? if the iPhone has the best now. It's not the standard bearer because we all know it will be eclipsed soon just like every other phone that's counted as the top dog. That title is always only held briefly.

    None of this is actually true but go ahead...believe what you want.

    lol how would you know? Do you have some kind of timetable for when the next set of chips will be out? It's a fact there will be something faster out for Android phones in the near future. If you don't believe that then you're just in fanboy denial.

    But thats not what you said is it? You said in the next 4 months (not true)...the next Ax series chip will be out in a year and half (again not true)...dont just make ? up to prove a point. Stick to facts.

    I'm pretty sure I asked you a hypothetical question but don't let reading and comprehending get in the way of your fanboyism.

    When you give time lines to prove a point...its not hypothetical. Every major Android chipset has come out already. The A5x and or A6 will be out next year.

    lol What? As long as I don't claim those time lines are factual, then they are hypothetical. The point wasn't the dates, but that tech will continue to progress and your claims about the iPhone chip will be shortlived.

    And again, your comments about the Android chipset are nonsense. I've had my phone for less than two years and in that time there have been 3 maybe 4 advances in the chip technology used in Android phones. Your belief that there won't be any movement in the near future is laughable and just plain silly.


    Why is this so ? hard for you to grasp???? I never said there wont be advancements within chipsets for Android. I just said that the Ax series will always outpace them. I have also given reason why this is true, and given historical and current examples of this. Again the Ax series of chips will be faster than its Android counter part because the Snapdragom, Omap, Tegra all are generic SoCs. They are all designed to work with a variety of components and OSes. They will never be customized for one specific manufacturer or OS. Why do you keep ignoring this point??

    That's irrelevant. Whose talking about one processor outpacing another one? No one, but you. I'm saying that as good as that chip might be, another one will be out in a few months that's better. Again, who cares if the iPhone 6 has an even faster chip, that doesn't change the fact that any chip's time at the top will be limited.

    Anyway, I'm going to take the advice given earlier and let it go. You're just arguing around in circles for no reason. I've already posted a video the conclusion was that neither the SG3 or iPhone5 had a clear advantage of the other and which is better depends on personal preference. That was from an Apple fan that had actually spent time using both phones. I'm going to say his opinion probably means more than yours.

    So in conclusion you've basically said a whole lot of nothing. You've gone from saying that three other android phones is doing what the iPhone5 can do and more, when this was proved untrue you switched to just the OS and even that was a personal preference. You have not backed up a single assertion you have made with facts. You posted up a chart showcasing specs....and then later on...Oh specs dont matter. Nobody cares about specs? Right, how in the world can you call anybody a fanboy is ridiculous.

    You post opinons...I dont. The dude in the video's opinion is as useless as yours or mine. Just because he posts it on YouTube makes it relevant now?
  • The Lonious Monk
    The Lonious Monk Members Posts: 26,258 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    rage wrote: »
    rage wrote: »
    rage wrote: »
    rage wrote: »
    rage wrote: »
    Dr.Chemix wrote: »
    Yo @LoniousMonk...just holla at that goofy ass ? in a couple of months. This ? said no matter what the snapdragon will modify into the A6x or A7 will be faster

    And he says fandroid are far worse than apple? lol...

    ? is literally saying a year from now the A6x/A7 will be faster...what a ? ?

    this ? betta not be working in I.T.

    I will find him and shoot him myself

    lol yeah, at that point was like "? it, there is no point."

    Like what kinda logic is that? Maybe the A6 will be faster when it comes out, but what difference does that make if the next processor for Android is out in 4 months and the next chip for the iPhone doesn't come out for a year and a half?

    And it kills me that he keeps on bringing up these specs and missing my entire point. Who gives a ? if the iPhone has the best now. It's not the standard bearer because we all know it will be eclipsed soon just like every other phone that's counted as the top dog. That title is always only held briefly.

    None of this is actually true but go ahead...believe what you want.

    lol how would you know? Do you have some kind of timetable for when the next set of chips will be out? It's a fact there will be something faster out for Android phones in the near future. If you don't believe that then you're just in fanboy denial.

    But thats not what you said is it? You said in the next 4 months (not true)...the next Ax series chip will be out in a year and half (again not true)...dont just make ? up to prove a point. Stick to facts.

    I'm pretty sure I asked you a hypothetical question but don't let reading and comprehending get in the way of your fanboyism.

    When you give time lines to prove a point...its not hypothetical. Every major Android chipset has come out already. The A5x and or A6 will be out next year.

    lol What? As long as I don't claim those time lines are factual, then they are hypothetical. The point wasn't the dates, but that tech will continue to progress and your claims about the iPhone chip will be shortlived.

    And again, your comments about the Android chipset are nonsense. I've had my phone for less than two years and in that time there have been 3 maybe 4 advances in the chip technology used in Android phones. Your belief that there won't be any movement in the near future is laughable and just plain silly.


    Why is this so ? hard for you to grasp???? I never said there wont be advancements within chipsets for Android. I just said that the Ax series will always outpace them. I have also given reason why this is true, and given historical and current examples of this. Again the Ax series of chips will be faster than its Android counter part because the Snapdragom, Omap, Tegra all are generic SoCs. They are all designed to work with a variety of components and OSes. They will never be customized for one specific manufacturer or OS. Why do you keep ignoring this point??

    That's irrelevant. Whose talking about one processor outpacing another one? No one, but you. I'm saying that as good as that chip might be, another one will be out in a few months that's better. Again, who cares if the iPhone 6 has an even faster chip, that doesn't change the fact that any chip's time at the top will be limited.

    Anyway, I'm going to take the advice given earlier and let it go. You're just arguing around in circles for no reason. I've already posted a video the conclusion was that neither the SG3 or iPhone5 had a clear advantage of the other and which is better depends on personal preference. That was from an Apple fan that had actually spent time using both phones. I'm going to say his opinion probably means more than yours.

    So in conclusion you've basically said a whole lot of nothing. You've gone from saying that three other android phones is doing what the iPhone5 can do and more, when this was proved untrue you switched to just the OS and even that was a personal preference. You have not backed up a single assertion you have made with facts. You posted up a chart showcasing specs....and then later on...Oh specs dont matter. Nobody cares about specs? Right, how in the world can you call anybody a fanboy is ridiculous.

    You post opinons...I dont. The dude in the video's opinion is as useless as yours or mine. Just because he posts it on YouTube makes it relevant now?

    The question of which phone is better is a matter of opinion ? , so any statement one way or the other is going to be an opinion. You posting a couple areas where the iPhone is superior doesn't make it superior especially if those are areas are not something that others particularly care about. If I don't give a ? about pic quality and I like bigger screens, guess what, I'm not going with the iPhone5, and there are multiple Android phones that I will feel are superior to the iPhone 5. And even by your stupid "only concerned with specs" argument, as I've pointed out more than once, those specs will be eclipsed in a matter of months because that's what has been happening consistently in phone technology for years now.

    And yeah, I'm going to believe his opinions since they are based on side by side usage of the phones. He's used both and compared battery life. That makes his statement on the subject better than you pulling out of your ass that the iPhone battery lasts longer.
  • CottonCitySlim
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    C-net the gods have reviewed the iphone 5.

    http://www.cnet.com/iphone-5/

    From the article

    If you're looking for a show-off gadget, something with gee-whiz bells and whistles, then go somewhere else...except for the fact that people will inevitably want to see the iPhone 5 and grab it out of your hand. But, if you're looking for an excellent, well-conceived phone...well, here it is.

    The iPhone 5 goes on sale September 21 from AT&T, Verizon, and Sprint in the United States. It will come in black and white, and pricing starts at $199 for the 16GB version, $299 for 32GB, and $399 for 64GB.

    And they admit that apple is playing catch up to android devices in a major way. Namely the S-3 and Maxx. But this is the best apple phone to date.