DO YOU "ACCEPT" PEOPLE COMING OUT? WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT LIFE?
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For some reason I don't care for the comparison between being black and homosexuality.
In my opinion it's apples and oranges.
Race and ethinicity are external characteristics which are exclusively due to genetics.
Homosexuality is a psychological factor and can sometimes be due to attributed to psychology but at other times environmental factors.
Race and homosexuality aren't at all related therefore should not be compared.
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SMH at the number of people who feel the need to defend / justify homosexuality.
Y'all are pretty much trying to get people to accept it too. -
nature says... there is Male... and Female...
They use their reproductive organs to procreate
Male Vs Male reproductive organs is UNNATURAL. thats not what they're there for,b. ? how people feel about it. ? how ? feel. ? religion. ? beliefs.
we talkin facts and science. That ? is NOT NATURAL, b.
edit: and i feel i have to add, i dont hate ? . jus cuz i dont hate em dont mean i dont think they are wrong. my step bro was ? , RIP
Then explain why certain animals have sex with the same sex animal. ? is natural but just unaccept by humans. It's unbalance but how can you say it's not natural when in fact nature does e exact same thing? -
nature says... there is Male... and Female...
They use their reproductive organs to procreate
Male Vs Male reproductive organs is UNNATURAL. thats not what they're there for,b. ? how people feel about it. ? how ? feel. ? religion. ? beliefs.
we talkin facts and science. That ? is NOT NATURAL, b.
edit: and i feel i have to add, i dont hate ? . jus cuz i dont hate em dont mean i dont think they are wrong. my step bro was ? , RIP to him
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mryounggun wrote: »The Lonious Monk wrote: »mryounggun wrote: »darkone360 wrote: »I swear I read that as if this ? was yellin. Smh. But I gotta agree with Dro. Being black isn't a choice. Your sexuality on other hand is a choice. You choose to act on that attraction.
Me personally, I have no problems with the brotha coming out. That's his life. I yawn @ it b/c someone being ? doesn't really hold that shock value like it did years ago. It's more accepted in mainstream media nowadays to where folks are like "Ok. And?"
Don't understand why he had to mention he was black tho? Like folks didn't figure that out.
But you just made a clear distinction, though. You are either born with an attraction to men or to women. No choice in that matter. Whether or not you act on it is a different thing. That's like saying a ? who is attracted to only men but has sex with women only cause he doesn't want to be ridiculed isn't ? . That ? is still ? as ? . Just hasn't acted on it.
So what about the dudes that go to jail and ? other men? Was every man that went to jail and wound up having homosexual sex ? from the start, or was it something they chose to be based on the situation. What about all these chicks that are either doing ? ? because they are fed up with men or as part of a fad. Were they always ? ? And are they still ? even when they grow out of the phase, go back to men, and never look back.
I'm not saying there aren't people who are ? from birth and never really exhibited any other traits, but I think it's too broad a statement to say that being ? is not a choice. Lots of people make that choice.
Good point. But here's the thing: My definition (the RIGHT definition) of 'homosexual' is pretty well defined. People who are sexually attracted to the same sex. Think about that and then reconsider those questions you asked.
You don't think at some point people who consistently ? people of a particular gender are sexually attracted to them. I'm not saying that dudes go into jail thinking other dudes are sexy as hell, but after spending years having sex with men, they have to develop some form of sexual attraction. Same goes for women going through their "? phase." They pick and choose the women they want to ? , so they have some concept of what woman is sexually attractive to them. That said in both cases, the people doing ? ? probably had no homosexual inclination before the incident that pushed them in that direction and they may not have any inclination after the get past whatever pushed them in that direction. -
darkone360 wrote: »mryounggun wrote: »darkone360 wrote: »I swear I read that as if this ? was yellin. Smh. But I gotta agree with Dro. Being black isn't a choice. Your sexuality on other hand is a choice. You choose to act on that attraction.
Me personally, I have no problems with the brotha coming out. That's his life. I yawn @ it b/c someone being ? doesn't really hold that shock value like it did years ago. It's more accepted in mainstream media nowadays to where folks are like "Ok. And?"
Don't understand why he had to mention he was black tho? Like folks didn't figure that out.
But you just made a clear distinction, though. You are either born with an attraction to men or to women. No choice in that matter. Whether or not you act on it is a different thing. That's like saying a ? who is attracted to only men but has sex with women only cause he doesn't want to be ridiculed isn't ? . That ? is still ? as ? . Just hasn't acted on it.
So a serial killer for example was born to ? ? Or someone is born a racist? Just b/c you have that "desire", you still choose to act on it. Whateva lifestyle that person chooses, that's their business. I just have an issue with folks tryin to compare that with being black. B/c it's not the same.
Maybe having our civil rights discriminated against, but that's it. Again, you can hide being ? . But you can't hide being black.
Aight, so let me ask you this: In your opinion, if a ? is sexually attracted to men only, but never actually has sex with another man...is he ? ?
And as far as the black vs. ? thing, I think that's all they mean when they make that comparison. Both have/had rights infringed upon. That's what I mean when I make that comparison. When you look at it like that, I'd say the comparison was pretty accurate. -
The Lonious Monk wrote: »mryounggun wrote: »The Lonious Monk wrote: »mryounggun wrote: »darkone360 wrote: »I swear I read that as if this ? was yellin. Smh. But I gotta agree with Dro. Being black isn't a choice. Your sexuality on other hand is a choice. You choose to act on that attraction.
Me personally, I have no problems with the brotha coming out. That's his life. I yawn @ it b/c someone being ? doesn't really hold that shock value like it did years ago. It's more accepted in mainstream media nowadays to where folks are like "Ok. And?"
Don't understand why he had to mention he was black tho? Like folks didn't figure that out.
But you just made a clear distinction, though. You are either born with an attraction to men or to women. No choice in that matter. Whether or not you act on it is a different thing. That's like saying a ? who is attracted to only men but has sex with women only cause he doesn't want to be ridiculed isn't ? . That ? is still ? as ? . Just hasn't acted on it.
So what about the dudes that go to jail and ? other men? Was every man that went to jail and wound up having homosexual sex ? from the start, or was it something they chose to be based on the situation. What about all these chicks that are either doing ? ? because they are fed up with men or as part of a fad. Were they always ? ? And are they still ? even when they grow out of the phase, go back to men, and never look back.
I'm not saying there aren't people who are ? from birth and never really exhibited any other traits, but I think it's too broad a statement to say that being ? is not a choice. Lots of people make that choice.
Good point. But here's the thing: My definition (the RIGHT definition) of 'homosexual' is pretty well defined. People who are sexually attracted to the same sex. Think about that and then reconsider those questions you asked.
You don't think at some point people who consistently ? people of a particular gender are sexually attracted to them. I'm not saying that dudes go into jail thinking other dudes are sexy as hell, but after spending years having sex with men, they have to develop some form of sexual attraction. Same goes for women going through their "? phase." They pick and choose the women they want to ? , so they have some concept of what woman is sexually attractive to them. That said in both cases, the people doing ? ? probably had no homosexual inclination before the incident that pushed them in that direction and they may not have any inclination after the get past whatever pushed them in that direction.
I agree with some of this. Disagree with some of it. Interesting perspective though. -
Why would people choose to be ? and have to live their lives in hiding and not be treated fairly or equally?
Look at all the "down low" Black men out there scared to come out the closet. Who would choose that life?
People waste so much time and and energy worried about how other people live their lives. ? doesn't affect me so I don't care :-?? -
I don't care if the ? is ? , he is still a terrible bball player but I did call him a coward and an opportunist for waiting till now for this ? ...if he was really bout the backdoor bandit life he had made it known from jump not have a fiancee and etc....hell Britney Greiner was drafted, dropped the same bombshell no one was surprised nor gave a ? . I just typed all this to say I don't really care bout homeboy ? saga and he is still an awful bball ....and he took the attention away from us Roasting Dwight Howard..
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The Lonious Monk wrote: »Wonder Girl wrote: »The Lonious Monk wrote: »Wonder Girl wrote: »The point of telling everyone is to Let the people around you know about the life you may or may not have been hiding.
I dont think the media pushes this to,make the world accept gayness, but to let people know its okay to be who you are.
I don't agree with that. The media is most definitely trying to make the world accept gayness. If it was just a matter of letting people know it's okay to be who you are, they'd just find ways to make that general statement. Instead, they push the ? agenda. It's one thing to talk about ? right in a political setting. It's another thing to flood every media outlet with conversation about a ? dude making it known that he's ? .
Whats pushing the ? agenda?
This man is a public figure and no matter what someone would, have found out and then his business is everywhere. Its only so big cause he famous.
The dude has been ? . He even said other people knew. No one cares that much. It's only a big issue because he revealed it and now every news outlet is making it the top story. That's pushing an agenda. This ? shouldn't be front page news. Should it be reported? Yeah, I guess, but with all the ? going on nowadays, this should not be the biggest topic around.
That's not pushing the agenda, but reproof the news. Is it pushing the ? white women movement when Lohan is all over the need news...no.
Him telling the media is just saying dont go crazy when you see me at the ? club or holding hands with a dude.
I doubt its the biggest news around and for a nba ? he was brave. He could be causing all types of trouble for himself. -
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And just because a particular person was born a certain way, doesn't make it natural or the right way to be. Some people are born blind or deaf. Clearly humans have eyes and ears for a recent, so a normal human is supposed to have sight and hearing. If that human comes out without those two senses, something went wrong.
Likewise, males are born with a ? . Females are born with a ? . Those are two complimentary sexual organs. Males have sperm; females have eggs. Those are two sex oriented cells that again are complimentary. So if the male and female sexual components are designed to work together, then clearly sex is meant to be between male and female. If a male comes out with no sexual interest in females or vice versa, something went wrong there. -
Punks is Punks, so they shouldn't get mad at the ridicule they get. don't like it? Move to West Bubblefuck.
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The Lonious Monk wrote: »I'm not mad at him for doing it. I'm just tired of this whole thing. Let ? be ? and be done with it. I watch basketball because I like the sport, and I don't need to know who they are ? . The fact that I can't even get through a game wrap-up without some 20 minute long conversation about some dude admitting he likes to pack fudge is ridiculous.
And I hate the comparison of being black to being homosexual. It's not the same thing at all. When it all comes down to it, a person's sexuality is their own business. There is no reason it should be public, and if they choose to make it public then it's on them to deal with whatever consequences arise. You can't hide being black. It's not something you can privatize or keep to yourself. It's who you are, not something that revolves around what you do.
That's what I was thinking.
Like...what was the purpose of the announcement?
OK you're ? ...but why do I need to know about it?
It's funny because other celebs/politicians are making it seem like dude did something groundbreaking or profound.
Saying they're proud of him, they support him, and all this other BS.
Just because he said he was ? ?
If an athlete held a press conference or an interview with Sports Illustrated confessing that he likes fat women is he gonna get the same kind of support?
Would all these people start talking about how courageous he is and how much they support him and how groundbreaking this is for society?
@Sion......LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
This dude's been in the NBA for 12 years and hasn't received any level of national attention until he announced that he was ? .
Seems like he just wants attention and is trying to cash-out on his sexuality.
Maybe extend his career a few extra years and pick up some endorsements that he normally wouldn't have been able to get based on his own merits as a player.
I wouldn't be surprised if dude really isn't ? at all and this is nothing more than a publicity stunt.
Can't blame him for trying to get paid, but surprised so many people are buying into this ? .
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? is on every news channel and in every magazine, etc, yet ? is in here talking about no one cares. SMH. YOU might not care and you might not understand why other people care...but obviously people care.
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Skyler White wrote: »Not only do I accept it I encourage it
I wish there was no such thing as having to come out...why are we so consumed with someone else's bedroom activities anyway?
But no one was caring bout it til HE made it an issue....his family been known he was ? for a while now.... -
The Lonious Monk wrote: »And just because a particular person was born a certain way, doesn't make it natural or the right way to be. Some people are born blind or deaf. Clearly humans have eyes and ears for a recent, so a normal human is supposed to have sight and hearing. If that human comes out without those two senses, something went wrong.
Likewise, males are born with a ? . Females are born with a ? . Those are two complimentary sexual organs. Males have sperm; females have eggs. Those are two sex oriented cells that again are complimentary. So if the male and female sexual components are designed to work together, then clearly sex is meant to be between male and female. If a male comes out with no sexual interest in females or vice versa, something went wrong there.
That's we're the unbalance in nature comes in. Nothing is perfect but there will always be a balance and an unbalance. It may not be the norm but it definately not uncommon to happen. -
Idc what another man does in his bedroom.. BUT, it's totally disrespectful when ? compare their struggle to Blacks of any time frame (e.g. comparing their movement to the Civil Rights movement).. plus, a ? can hide the fact that he's attracted to men, but Blacks can't hide the fact that their Black..
LOL, hell nah.. a clothing fad isn't comparable to sexual orientation..mryounggun wrote: »mryounggun wrote: »I'm not sure why people think being ? is a choice. Just MsSouthern said, nobody chooses to be straight. It's just in your nature. Nobody taught you to be attracted to women. You just are. Same for ? who are ? . They didn't wake up one day and say 'I'm going to be attracted to men now.'. They just are. ? seems pretty clear to me.
SO YOU TELLING ME THAT KIDS/TEENS AINT JUST BEING/DOING ? ? CAUSE ITS IN NOW?..
LIKE THAT 1 CHICK THAT GOT THE "I KISSED A GIRL AND I LIKED IT SONG".. U THINK THEM LIL GIRLS WASNT DOING THAT ? ?... OH OK
Dro, you smarter that this, son.
U OBVIOUSLY NOT.. JUST LIKE DRUGS, SKINNY JEANS, OR ANY OTHER THINGS THAT DEEMED AS COOL, MOST KIDS/TEENS WILL FOLLOW IT... FACTS -
The Lonious Monk wrote: »And just because a particular person was born a certain way, doesn't make it natural or the right way to be. Some people are born blind or deaf. Clearly humans have eyes and ears for a recent, so a normal human is supposed to have sight and hearing. If that human comes out without those two senses, something went wrong.
Likewise, males are born with a ? . Females are born with a ? . Those are two complimentary sexual organs. Males have sperm; females have eggs. Those are two sex oriented cells that again are complimentary. So if the male and female sexual components are designed to work together, then clearly sex is meant to be between male and female. If a male comes out with no sexual interest in females or vice versa, something went wrong there.
Bruh, I don't even know if people realize what agendas they're forwarding by wanting people to think ? is normal.
Being ? might not be something worth attacking somebody over, but it's definitely not normal. -
i could care less who a ? ?
What i wanna know is how the hell u keep changing ur screen name
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If people just accept homosexuality and let ? be ? , then we wouldn't have any "coming out" speeches. I mean especially with celebrities and politicians, people really seem to care about their personal lives where it gets to the point that they feel the need to explain themselves, clear out the rumors blah blah. I personally don't care about anyone's sexual orientation. It doesn't affect me in anyway who someone chooses to sleep with. If they have been getting all this reactions about their homosexuality then of course I understand why they would feel the need to come out and tell that they are not afraid to be themselves.
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Wonder Girl wrote: »
That's not pushing the agenda, but reproof the news. Is it pushing the ? white women movement when Lohan is all over the need news...no.
Him telling the media is just saying dont go crazy when you see me at the ? club or holding hands with a dude.
I doubt its the biggest news around and for a nba ? he was brave. He could be causing all types of trouble for himself.
No, the media is not pushing a "? white women movement" when they do ? like that, but they are most certainly pushing an agenda. Celebrity news makes big money, so developing an atmosphere where people think ? like that is important, and then profiting off of it is the agenda.
And once again, I didn't say the guy was pushing an agenda. He's a ? man that's down for the ? cause, so he's standing up for that cause. I said the media is pushing that agenda, and yes, it's the biggest news around. I was at the gym on the treadmill yesterday. They have 10 TVs up, all on different channels. That story popped up multiple times on at least 8 of the TVs. That's ridiculous. -
Elzo69Revolutions wrote: »I don't care if the ? is ? , he is still a terrible bball player but I did call him a coward and an opportunist for waiting till now for this ? ...if he was really bout the backdoor bandit life he had made it known from jump not have a fiancee and etc....hell Britney Greiner was drafted, dropped the same bombshell no one was surprised nor gave a ? . I just typed all this to say I don't really care bout homeboy ? saga and he is still an awful bball ....and he took the attention away from us Roasting Dwight Howard..
It's not like the hefa was hiding it tho, but I see your point. Hell, she even shrugged it off like it was no big deal to her.
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Yall heard about the church in VA I believe where the majoriy of the congregation broke away to start their own church because an openly ? pastor reverend or whatever was anointed
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I think people are born ? . We all knew a fruit cake at an early age and he most likely is today a ? person. Either way who cares. I'm not chilling with you.
As far as influence from the media to celebrities I can see it. I live near a High School and that ? is so common to see now. Complete 180 from when I was in school especially amongst Blacks and Latinos
