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  • damobb2deep
    damobb2deep Members Posts: 19,972 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    No proof on Jesus on existing. Only on Christian sites and I done the research.
    The history of the bible is mixed false and some factual evidence. Genesis is false. No huge slavery system in Kemet existed. The old testament written in 500 BC. Genesis was the last book to be written. Yeah, and Hindu, kemet/ta seti(group a nubia) religious system is older. The habiru who the Hebrews descend from were a mixed group of bandits and mercenaries. Every evidence and research leads to the scriptures are false of a cult of a ? of a pantheon they keep gaining power as they conquered and pillage cities and such. Your not talking to someone who is ignorant of history.

    Jesus historical existence is documented in numerous secular sources. If you deny the existence of Jesus Christ, might as well deny the existence of every other historical figure from that time. Amen.

    can you please post this evidence


    and if you post that got damn shroud that was on unsolved mysteries that jesus was supposedly wrapped in, be prepared to be laughed at for months.

    dont we base our dates (years) on his life?

    btw there are plenty of sources like he said biblical and pure historical that say he walked the earth... im pretty sure they didnt just "make him up"

    the fact that the middle east has been in conflict over "the holy land" for hundreds of years also gives validity to this....

    again you may not believe in him as a religious staple but he did walk the earth as a person is fact..

  • Jabu_Rule
    Jabu_Rule Members Posts: 5,993 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    No proof on Jesus on existing. Only on Christian sites and I done the research.
    The history of the bible is mixed false and some factual evidence. Genesis is false. No huge slavery system in Kemet existed. The old testament written in 500 BC. Genesis was the last book to be written. Yeah, and Hindu, kemet/ta seti(group a nubia) religious system is older. The habiru who the Hebrews descend from were a mixed group of bandits and mercenaries. Every evidence and research leads to the scriptures are false of a cult of a ? of a pantheon they keep gaining power as they conquered and pillage cities and such. Your not talking to someone who is ignorant of history.

    Jesus historical existence is documented in numerous secular sources. If you deny the existence of Jesus Christ, might as well deny the existence of every other historical figure from that time. Amen.

    can you please post this evidence


    and if you post that got damn shroud that was on unsolved mysteries that jesus was supposedly wrapped in, be prepared to be laughed at for months.

    dont we base our dates (years) on his life?

    btw there are plenty of sources like he said biblical and pure historical that say he walked the earth... im pretty sure they didnt just "make him up"

    the fact that the middle east has been in conflict over "the holy land" for hundreds of years also gives validity to this....

    again you may not believe in him as a religious staple but he did walk the earth as a person is fact..

    We base our dates on the Julian Calendar which was created under the direction of Julius Ceaser. It was co-opted by the Church.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_calendar
    The Julian calendar, introduced by Julius Caesar in 46 BC (708 AUC), was a reform of the Roman calendar. It took effect in 45 BC (709 AUC). It was the predominant calendar in most of Europe, and in European settlements in the Americas and elsewhere, until it was refined and superseded by the Gregorian calendar. The difference in the length of the year between Julian (365.25 days) and Gregorian (365.2425 days) is 0.002%.
  • zombie
    zombie Members Posts: 13,450 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    the only thing that can be proved is that we choose what we want to believe.
  • zombie
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    I am alive today if 500 years from now no one believes I existed. that does not mean I never lived.
  • Ajackson17
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    Yeshua in a context of existence as he is but he most likely wasn't a big name. And plus his name was fairly common. There just any evidence pointing to a demi ? .
  • Cabana_Da_Don
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    Physics say this is an illuison...If this is an illusion who the ? made it...And whats the point of the illusion...Scientists are getting to the point that something with an intelligence was involved in the making of the matrix the possibility of this happening right now is like 1 to a billion.
  • Cabana_Da_Don
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    There´s a common situation that occured in all three books.Angels camde donw and gave people information.? is real.
  • damobb2deep
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    FuriousOne wrote: »
    No proof on Jesus on existing. Only on Christian sites and I done the research.
    The history of the bible is mixed false and some factual evidence. Genesis is false. No huge slavery system in Kemet existed. The old testament written in 500 BC. Genesis was the last book to be written. Yeah, and Hindu, kemet/ta seti(group a nubia) religious system is older. The habiru who the Hebrews descend from were a mixed group of bandits and mercenaries. Every evidence and research leads to the scriptures are false of a cult of a ? of a pantheon they keep gaining power as they conquered and pillage cities and such. Your not talking to someone who is ignorant of history.

    Jesus historical existence is documented in numerous secular sources. If you deny the existence of Jesus Christ, might as well deny the existence of every other historical figure from that time. Amen.

    can you please post this evidence


    and if you post that got damn shroud that was on unsolved mysteries that jesus was supposedly wrapped in, be prepared to be laughed at for months.

    dont we base our dates (years) on his life?

    btw there are plenty of sources like he said biblical and pure historical that say he walked the earth... im pretty sure they didnt just "make him up"

    the fact that the middle east has been in conflict over "the holy land" for hundreds of years also gives validity to this....

    again you may not believe in him as a religious staple but he did walk the earth as a person is fact..

    We base our dates on the Julian Calendar which was created under the direction of Julius Ceaser. It was co-opted by the Church.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_calendar
    The Julian calendar, introduced by Julius Caesar in 46 BC (708 AUC), was a reform of the Roman calendar. It took effect in 45 BC (709 AUC). It was the predominant calendar in most of Europe, and in European settlements in the Americas and elsewhere, until it was refined and superseded by the Gregorian calendar. The difference in the length of the year between Julian (365.25 days) and Gregorian (365.2425 days) is 0.002%.

    lol 45 b.c. stands 4 "before christ"... thats what i was talkin bout
  • FatterThanKat
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    zombie wrote: »
    the only thing that can be proved is that we choose what we want to believe.

    You said we can't even know if we exist so if that is true then how can we have any beliefs if we do not exist? And how isn't having beliefs evidence of existence?

    You really need to lay off the pipe.
  • Sour-Cream
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    He's real unless we wouldn't be here. Something came from something and why are we the only organic matter that can live on a planet that orbits around a sun that gives us the right amount of heat to live without hypothermia or why is it that we're the only planet that has one moon that gives us the right kind of weather pattern. Why are we the only planet that suffers the least meteor showers. An ozone layer that protects us from cancer. Animals and Man came from someone and when we go through a physical death, there is a place much bigger than this that holds our spirit and possibly regenerates a new earth for us to live as we want in freewill. I don't think anyone ever really dies nor ever will and that's it. Physical death was never suppose to happen. As to who or what ? is, we don't know.

    All I know is I don't believe in anything a man will tell me nor this paraplegic ? ? mafucker.
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  • zombie
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    zombie wrote: »
    the only thing that can be proved is that we choose what we want to believe.

    You said we can't even know if we exist so if that is true then how can we have any beliefs if we do not exist? And how isn't having beliefs evidence of existence?

    You really need to lay off the pipe.

    you do not understand. I mean our physical being , that we can never know exist. that and everything else physical.
  • UPTOWN
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    No proof on Jesus on existing. Only on Christian sites and I done the research.
    The history of the bible is mixed false and some factual evidence. Genesis is false. No huge slavery system in Kemet existed. The old testament written in 500 BC. Genesis was the last book to be written. Yeah, and Hindu, kemet/ta seti(group a nubia) religious system is older. The habiru who the Hebrews descend from were a mixed group of bandits and mercenaries. Every evidence and research leads to the scriptures are false of a cult of a ? of a pantheon they keep gaining power as they conquered and pillage cities and such. Your not talking to someone who is ignorant of history.

    Jesus historical existence is documented in numerous secular sources. If you deny the existence of Jesus Christ, might as well deny the existence of every other historical figure from that time. Amen.

    can you please post this evidence


    and if you post that got damn shroud that was on unsolved mysteries that jesus was supposedly wrapped in, be prepared to be laughed at for months.

    dont we base our dates (years) on his life?

    btw there are plenty of sources like he said biblical and pure historical that say he walked the earth... im pretty sure they didnt just "make him up"

    the fact that the middle east has been in conflict over "the holy land" for hundreds of years also gives validity to this....

    again you may not believe in him as a religious staple but he did walk the earth as a person is fact..

    dont we base our dates (years) on his life?

    so what LOL....... you act like the ppl who lived back then did this. the BC and AD calendar doesnt come into effect until 500 years after jesus supposedly dies

    btw there are plenty of sources like he said biblical and pure historical that say he walked the earth... im pretty sure they didnt just "make him up"

    please feel free to post these sources. ill wait for you to finally realize they dont actually exists LOL. not onlyis there no archeological or historical evidence of jesus living, but there is no evidence OF ANY BIBLICAL CHARACTER.
    actually jesus was made up LOL its called "the council of nicea" google it LOL
    see in the original story before the council, jesus was born in a cave in ETHIOPIA. but the story you have today places him in a manger in either nazareth or bethlehem.


    the fact that the middle east has been in conflict over "the holy land" for hundreds of years also gives validity to this....


    this has nothing to do with jesus LOL.... the ppl who are fighting over the holy land are "jews" and palestinians. jews dont even believe that jesus has been born yet. the ppl who believe in jesus are not fighting over "the holy land" LOLOLOL

    and really the fight has little to do with religion. its actually based on the suez canal which is a critical traveling route to import and export goods to and from the western hemisphere to and from the far east. you now how your products are made in china and india?? yeah ... suez canal ? LOLOLOL. the reason america is allies with the jews over there is because the jews are more closely "related" to americans. in other words... they're both white.
    "the holy land" was gonna be in africa. but the africans was like "nah ? that" so the jews bounced


    again you may not believe in him as a religious staple but he did walk the earth as a person is fact..

    like i said. find one shred of evidence that jesus lived outside of the bible which was written in the 1600's (thats 1600 years after jesus supposedly lived)
    ill help you out
    when jesus was a child, he went to egypt. now we know who the pharoah etc was at that time. there were plenty of scholars writting about world events at that time. find one, just one who wrote about jesus. remember, jesus turned rocks into bread and fed THOUSANDS. im sure at least one of those ppl wrote about jesus or told someone who could write about. so when you find it, im sure the pope will fly you to italy with your new break thru discovery


    LOL
  • damobb2deep
    damobb2deep Members Posts: 19,972 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    No proof on Jesus on existing. Only on Christian sites and I done the research.
    The history of the bible is mixed false and some factual evidence. Genesis is false. No huge slavery system in Kemet existed. The old testament written in 500 BC. Genesis was the last book to be written. Yeah, and Hindu, kemet/ta seti(group a nubia) religious system is older. The habiru who the Hebrews descend from were a mixed group of bandits and mercenaries. Every evidence and research leads to the scriptures are false of a cult of a ? of a pantheon they keep gaining power as they conquered and pillage cities and such. Your not talking to someone who is ignorant of history.

    Jesus historical existence is documented in numerous secular sources. If you deny the existence of Jesus Christ, might as well deny the existence of every other historical figure from that time. Amen.

    can you please post this evidence


    and if you post that got damn shroud that was on unsolved mysteries that jesus was supposedly wrapped in, be prepared to be laughed at for months.

    dont we base our dates (years) on his life?

    btw there are plenty of sources like he said biblical and pure historical that say he walked the earth... im pretty sure they didnt just "make him up"

    the fact that the middle east has been in conflict over "the holy land" for hundreds of years also gives validity to this....

    again you may not believe in him as a religious staple but he did walk the earth as a person is fact..

    dont we base our dates (years) on his life?

    so what LOL....... you act like the ppl who lived back then did this. the BC and AD calendar doesnt come into effect until 500 years after jesus supposedly dies

    btw there are plenty of sources like he said biblical and pure historical that say he walked the earth... im pretty sure they didnt just "make him up"

    please feel free to post these sources. ill wait for you to finally realize they dont actually exists LOL. not onlyis there no archeological or historical evidence of jesus living, but there is no evidence OF ANY BIBLICAL CHARACTER.
    actually jesus was made up LOL its called "the council of nicea" google it LOL
    see in the original story before the council, jesus was born in a cave in ETHIOPIA. but the story you have today places him in a manger in either nazareth or bethlehem.


    the fact that the middle east has been in conflict over "the holy land" for hundreds of years also gives validity to this....


    this has nothing to do with jesus LOL.... the ppl who are fighting over the holy land are "jews" and palestinians. jews dont even believe that jesus has been born yet. the ppl who believe in jesus are not fighting over "the holy land" LOLOLOL

    and really the fight has little to do with religion. its actually based on the suez canal which is a critical traveling route to import and export goods to and from the western hemisphere to and from the far east. you now how your products are made in china and india?? yeah ... suez canal ? LOLOLOL. the reason america is allies with the jews over there is because the jews are more closely "related" to americans. in other words... they're both white.
    "the holy land" was gonna be in africa. but the africans was like "nah ? that" so the jews bounced


    again you may not believe in him as a religious staple but he did walk the earth as a person is fact..

    like i said. find one shred of evidence that jesus lived outside of the bible which was written in the 1600's (thats 1600 years after jesus supposedly lived)
    ill help you out
    when jesus was a child, he went to egypt. now we know who the pharoah etc was at that time. there were plenty of scholars writting about world events at that time. find one, just one who wrote about jesus. remember, jesus turned rocks into bread and fed THOUSANDS. im sure at least one of those ppl wrote about jesus or told someone who could write about. so when you find it, im sure the pope will fly you to italy with your new break thru discovery


    LOL

    lol

    jews do acknowledge jesus lived.. muslims do as well lol smh..

    lol btw do u understand that the great crusades started in 1095? and christans had a strong hold in the holy land in 1200's

    also the middle eastern jews are not white bruh...
  • Ajackson17
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    Only from religious books not from any peer reviewed historical books
  • zombie
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    why exactly people would want proof Jesus existed is beyond me.
  • Ajackson17
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    For validity purposes, I didn't look for it. I always thought that Yeshua was real, but his divine qualities were faith based, but there isn't any validity for his existence through the secular historians at his time. Possibility Yeshua was a real person, but no proof, nah'mean?
  • UPTOWN
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    No proof on Jesus on existing. Only on Christian sites and I done the research.
    The history of the bible is mixed false and some factual evidence. Genesis is false. No huge slavery system in Kemet existed. The old testament written in 500 BC. Genesis was the last book to be written. Yeah, and Hindu, kemet/ta seti(group a nubia) religious system is older. The habiru who the Hebrews descend from were a mixed group of bandits and mercenaries. Every evidence and research leads to the scriptures are false of a cult of a ? of a pantheon they keep gaining power as they conquered and pillage cities and such. Your not talking to someone who is ignorant of history.

    Jesus historical existence is documented in numerous secular sources. If you deny the existence of Jesus Christ, might as well deny the existence of every other historical figure from that time. Amen.

    can you please post this evidence


    and if you post that got damn shroud that was on unsolved mysteries that jesus was supposedly wrapped in, be prepared to be laughed at for months.

    dont we base our dates (years) on his life?

    btw there are plenty of sources like he said biblical and pure historical that say he walked the earth... im pretty sure they didnt just "make him up"

    the fact that the middle east has been in conflict over "the holy land" for hundreds of years also gives validity to this....

    again you may not believe in him as a religious staple but he did walk the earth as a person is fact..

    dont we base our dates (years) on his life?

    so what LOL....... you act like the ppl who lived back then did this. the BC and AD calendar doesnt come into effect until 500 years after jesus supposedly dies

    btw there are plenty of sources like he said biblical and pure historical that say he walked the earth... im pretty sure they didnt just "make him up"

    please feel free to post these sources. ill wait for you to finally realize they dont actually exists LOL. not onlyis there no archeological or historical evidence of jesus living, but there is no evidence OF ANY BIBLICAL CHARACTER.
    actually jesus was made up LOL its called "the council of nicea" google it LOL
    see in the original story before the council, jesus was born in a cave in ETHIOPIA. but the story you have today places him in a manger in either nazareth or bethlehem.


    the fact that the middle east has been in conflict over "the holy land" for hundreds of years also gives validity to this....


    this has nothing to do with jesus LOL.... the ppl who are fighting over the holy land are "jews" and palestinians. jews dont even believe that jesus has been born yet. the ppl who believe in jesus are not fighting over "the holy land" LOLOLOL

    and really the fight has little to do with religion. its actually based on the suez canal which is a critical traveling route to import and export goods to and from the western hemisphere to and from the far east. you now how your products are made in china and india?? yeah ... suez canal ? LOLOLOL. the reason america is allies with the jews over there is because the jews are more closely "related" to americans. in other words... they're both white.
    "the holy land" was gonna be in africa. but the africans was like "nah ? that" so the jews bounced


    again you may not believe in him as a religious staple but he did walk the earth as a person is fact..

    like i said. find one shred of evidence that jesus lived outside of the bible which was written in the 1600's (thats 1600 years after jesus supposedly lived)
    ill help you out
    when jesus was a child, he went to egypt. now we know who the pharoah etc was at that time. there were plenty of scholars writting about world events at that time. find one, just one who wrote about jesus. remember, jesus turned rocks into bread and fed THOUSANDS. im sure at least one of those ppl wrote about jesus or told someone who could write about. so when you find it, im sure the pope will fly you to italy with your new break thru discovery


    LOL

    lol

    jews do acknowledge jesus lived.. muslims do as well lol smh..

    lol btw do u understand that the great crusades started in 1095? and christans had a strong hold in the holy land in 1200's

    also the middle eastern jews are not white bruh...

    you really are dumb man LOLOLOLOL

    unbelievable stupidity
  • damobb2deep
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    Only from religious books not from any peer reviewed historical books

    wouldnt that make the point stronger? because if he is acknowledged by 3 different religions which they all disagree on things besides his life.. thats pretty significant..
  • damobb2deep
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    No proof on Jesus on existing. Only on Christian sites and I done the research.
    The history of the bible is mixed false and some factual evidence. Genesis is false. No huge slavery system in Kemet existed. The old testament written in 500 BC. Genesis was the last book to be written. Yeah, and Hindu, kemet/ta seti(group a nubia) religious system is older. The habiru who the Hebrews descend from were a mixed group of bandits and mercenaries. Every evidence and research leads to the scriptures are false of a cult of a ? of a pantheon they keep gaining power as they conquered and pillage cities and such. Your not talking to someone who is ignorant of history.

    Jesus historical existence is documented in numerous secular sources. If you deny the existence of Jesus Christ, might as well deny the existence of every other historical figure from that time. Amen.

    can you please post this evidence


    and if you post that got damn shroud that was on unsolved mysteries that jesus was supposedly wrapped in, be prepared to be laughed at for months.

    dont we base our dates (years) on his life?

    btw there are plenty of sources like he said biblical and pure historical that say he walked the earth... im pretty sure they didnt just "make him up"

    the fact that the middle east has been in conflict over "the holy land" for hundreds of years also gives validity to this....

    again you may not believe in him as a religious staple but he did walk the earth as a person is fact..

    dont we base our dates (years) on his life?

    so what LOL....... you act like the ppl who lived back then did this. the BC and AD calendar doesnt come into effect until 500 years after jesus supposedly dies

    btw there are plenty of sources like he said biblical and pure historical that say he walked the earth... im pretty sure they didnt just "make him up"

    please feel free to post these sources. ill wait for you to finally realize they dont actually exists LOL. not onlyis there no archeological or historical evidence of jesus living, but there is no evidence OF ANY BIBLICAL CHARACTER.
    actually jesus was made up LOL its called "the council of nicea" google it LOL
    see in the original story before the council, jesus was born in a cave in ETHIOPIA. but the story you have today places him in a manger in either nazareth or bethlehem.


    the fact that the middle east has been in conflict over "the holy land" for hundreds of years also gives validity to this....


    this has nothing to do with jesus LOL.... the ppl who are fighting over the holy land are "jews" and palestinians. jews dont even believe that jesus has been born yet. the ppl who believe in jesus are not fighting over "the holy land" LOLOLOL

    and really the fight has little to do with religion. its actually based on the suez canal which is a critical traveling route to import and export goods to and from the western hemisphere to and from the far east. you now how your products are made in china and india?? yeah ... suez canal ? LOLOLOL. the reason america is allies with the jews over there is because the jews are more closely "related" to americans. in other words... they're both white.
    "the holy land" was gonna be in africa. but the africans was like "nah ? that" so the jews bounced


    again you may not believe in him as a religious staple but he did walk the earth as a person is fact..

    like i said. find one shred of evidence that jesus lived outside of the bible which was written in the 1600's (thats 1600 years after jesus supposedly lived)
    ill help you out
    when jesus was a child, he went to egypt. now we know who the pharoah etc was at that time. there were plenty of scholars writting about world events at that time. find one, just one who wrote about jesus. remember, jesus turned rocks into bread and fed THOUSANDS. im sure at least one of those ppl wrote about jesus or told someone who could write about. so when you find it, im sure the pope will fly you to italy with your new break thru discovery


    LOL

    lol

    jews do acknowledge jesus lived.. muslims do as well lol smh..

    lol btw do u understand that the great crusades started in 1095? and christans had a strong hold in the holy land in 1200's

    also the middle eastern jews are not white bruh...

    you really are dumb man LOLOLOLOL

    unbelievable stupidity

    not as much as yours..
  • DoUwant2go2Heaven
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    Checked all the sources. John the baptist is mention no Yeshua. Hell even Simeon the magician is mention no Yeshua. The bible simply isn't true history. Some historic information and people but most is made up. I'm in the reflection of ba'al cool to know. Yahweh is a fusion of different gods of the caanaite pantheon and his name was known in 2000 BC but the first person he told was moses. So that's another lie. Its all fraudulent.

    You haven't checked all the sources because you've named none of the sources. Go back to the drawing board my friend. Google is your friend. Amen.

    I'm not the one converting anyone though. I'm defending my stance on why I will not convert.

    www.thedevineevidence.com/jesus_​history.html
  • DoUwant2go2Heaven
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    No proof on Jesus on existing. Only on Christian sites and I done the research.
    The history of the bible is mixed false and some factual evidence. Genesis is false. No huge slavery system in Kemet existed. The old testament written in 500 BC. Genesis was the last book to be written. Yeah, and Hindu, kemet/ta seti(group a nubia) religious system is older. The habiru who the Hebrews descend from were a mixed group of bandits and mercenaries. Every evidence and research leads to the scriptures are false of a cult of a ? of a pantheon they keep gaining power as they conquered and pillage cities and such. Your not talking to someone who is ignorant of history.

    Jesus historical existence is documented in numerous secular sources. If you deny the existence of Jesus Christ, might as well deny the existence of every other historical figure from that time. Amen.

    can you please post this evidence


    and if you post that got damn shroud that was on unsolved mysteries that jesus was supposedly wrapped in, be prepared to be laughed at for months.

    www.thedevineevidence.com/jesus_​history.html
  • DoUwant2go2Heaven
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    For validity purposes, I didn't look for it. I always thought that Yeshua was real, but his divine qualities were faith based, but there isn't any validity for his existence through the secular historians at his time. Possibility Yeshua was a real person, but no proof, nah'mean?

    Please stop being ignorant and read the link. If you fail to do so you'll fall into the category of folks who are intellectually dishonest because of stupidity/laziness/pride. Amen.

    www.thedevineevidence.com/jesus_​history.html
  • Jabu_Rule
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    FuriousOne wrote: »
    No proof on Jesus on existing. Only on Christian sites and I done the research.
    The history of the bible is mixed false and some factual evidence. Genesis is false. No huge slavery system in Kemet existed. The old testament written in 500 BC. Genesis was the last book to be written. Yeah, and Hindu, kemet/ta seti(group a nubia) religious system is older. The habiru who the Hebrews descend from were a mixed group of bandits and mercenaries. Every evidence and research leads to the scriptures are false of a cult of a ? of a pantheon they keep gaining power as they conquered and pillage cities and such. Your not talking to someone who is ignorant of history.

    Jesus historical existence is documented in numerous secular sources. If you deny the existence of Jesus Christ, might as well deny the existence of every other historical figure from that time. Amen.

    can you please post this evidence


    and if you post that got damn shroud that was on unsolved mysteries that jesus was supposedly wrapped in, be prepared to be laughed at for months.

    dont we base our dates (years) on his life?

    btw there are plenty of sources like he said biblical and pure historical that say he walked the earth... im pretty sure they didnt just "make him up"

    the fact that the middle east has been in conflict over "the holy land" for hundreds of years also gives validity to this....

    again you may not believe in him as a religious staple but he did walk the earth as a person is fact..

    We base our dates on the Julian Calendar which was created under the direction of Julius Ceaser. It was co-opted by the Church.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_calendar
    The Julian calendar, introduced by Julius Caesar in 46 BC (708 AUC), was a reform of the Roman calendar. It took effect in 45 BC (709 AUC). It was the predominant calendar in most of Europe, and in European settlements in the Americas and elsewhere, until it was refined and superseded by the Gregorian calendar. The difference in the length of the year between Julian (365.25 days) and Gregorian (365.2425 days) is 0.002%.

    lol 45 b.c. stands 4 "before christ"... thats what i was talkin bout

    Just because they put their date on it, that does not make it theirs. Bottom line is the Julian calendar was used for centuries beyond 45 b.c. before a Catholic Pope came along and changed things. That doesn't make the system accurate, that makes it appropriated to give credit to something that has none by the very followers that are making the claims with no proof. There are many examples of this like Halloween and Christmas traditions. In those days, 45 b.c. was 709 AUC. Even the colonies used the Julian Calendar and everyone wasn't so quick to adopt but they did eventually to make things consistent for trade. Protestants were completely opposed to the change because they did not want Catholic ? .

    http://www.stratfor.com/analysis/geopolitics-gregorian-calendar
    When England adopted the Gregorian calendar in 1752, some 170 years after it was introduced by Pope Gregory XIII, Benjamin Franklin wrote, "It is pleasant for an old man to be able to go to bed Sept. 2, and not have to get up until Sept. 14." Indeed, nearly two weeks evaporated into thin air in England when it transitioned from the Julian calendar, which had left the country 11 days behind much of Europe. Such calendrical acrobatics are not unusual. The year 46 B.C., a year before Julius Caesar implemented his namesake system, lasted 445 days and later became known as the "final year of confusion."


    The change actually had technical reasoning behind it but being that it's the Catholic Church, they applied religious context even though it actually through off religious dates off.
    For the Catholic Church, this meant that Easter -- traditionally tied to the spring equinox -- would eventually drift into another season altogether.



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    Off topic, but I hate when people gotta air pictures of their Sunday's church attire. #churchflow# "On my way to church". That's why I don't like going to big churches, some people are the for a fashion show. Might as well set up a photography booth & have paparazzi hanging outside the church to take pictures too
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    T. Sanford wrote: »
    Off topic, but I hate when people gotta air pictures of their Sunday's church attire. #churchflow# "On my way to church". That's why I don't like going to big churches, some people are the for a fashion show. Might as well set up a photography booth & have paparazzi hanging outside the church to take pictures too

    Preach on brother man!