BLACK HISTORY QUESTION???

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  • StillFaggyAF
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    First off, every month is black history month for me. And second, of course!!! Stop looking for something to divide us and embrace unity for a change.

    Some of y'all are conditioned beyond repair.

    British North America was one of the most effective New World colony when it came to conditioning African captives. The one drop rule prolly saved usthem from going full ?
  • zombie
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    700 wrote: »
    zombie wrote: »
    it's called black history month not african american history month so it is correct to study the history of all black peoples not just african americans.

    I ain't tryin to study ? bout no black ass Haitian

    ? that

    "Strickly 4 my ? "

    ? don't you ever quote me again you are to stupid to talk too
  • DarcSkies
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    Unless you want to go into what tribes blacks came from and what regions and why certain tribes decided to sell off other tribes from Africa then it has little to do with the black American experience.

    Africa is a very SMALL part of African-American history. It is simply the place our ancestors came from. Once they left Africa a whole new identity was formed. Like it or not black Americans have little to do with Africa.

    Just ask Africans. They cant stand your black ass for the most part.
  • mryounggun
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    They are succeeding in stripping us of our African heritage. SMH.
  • mryounggun
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    Darxwell wrote: »
    Unless you want to go into what tribes blacks came from and what regions and why certain tribes decided to sell off other tribes from Africa then it has little to do with the black American experience.

    Africa is a very SMALL part of African-American history. It is simply the place our ancestors came from. Once they left Africa a whole new identity was formed. Like it or not black Americans have little to do with Africa.

    Just ask Africans. They cant stand your black ass for the most part.

    Agreed. But Africa has a great deal to do with Black Americans.
  • zombie
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    African americans can be some of the biggest fools on the planet and this thread is proof of it.
  • DarcSkies
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    mryounggun wrote: »
    Darxwell wrote: »
    Unless you want to go into what tribes blacks came from and what regions and why certain tribes decided to sell off other tribes from Africa then it has little to do with the black American experience.

    Africa is a very SMALL part of African-American history. It is simply the place our ancestors came from. Once they left Africa a whole new identity was formed. Like it or not black Americans have little to do with Africa.

    Just ask Africans. They cant stand your black ass for the most part.

    Agreed. But Africa has a great deal to do with Black Americans.

    How so, other than it being where we were kidnapped from? That makes it relevant but lets not pretend it goes any deeper than "thats where we were kidnapped from...thats where Arab traders sold us after wars, etc."
  • gns
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    mryounggun wrote: »
    They are succeeding in stripping us of our African heritage. SMH.

    And these ? is letting them
  • BIGG WILL
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    mryounggun wrote: »
    Darxwell wrote: »
    Like it or not black Americans have little to do with Africa.

    Agreed. But Africa has a great deal to do with Black Americans.


    Care to explain?
  • taeboo
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    The goal Carter Woodson had when he started black history week was to highlight black accomplishments here in America, but I don't see the issue with discussing African history too if people want to.

    SN: Woodson picked the first week of Feb to celebrate ? history week because of Frederick Douglass's bday.
  • BIGG WILL
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    taeboo wrote: »
    The goal Carter Woodson had when he started black history week was to highlight black accomplishments here in America, but I don't see the issue with discussing African history too if people want to.

    SN: Woodson picked the first week of Feb to celebrate ? history week because of Frederick Douglass's bday.


    I think this may have help answer my question.

    GOATED

  • BIGG WILL
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    Seems like a lot of people are voting on Culture/Heritage, but that connection is obvious. The question is, other than maybe Nelson Mandela, are there any African leaders (of Non-American origin) you hold next to Malcolm X, or Martin Luther King and celebrate their lives as you would X's, or Kings?
  • StillFaggyAF
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    Darxwell wrote: »
    Unless you want to go into what tribes blacks came from and what regions and why certain tribes decided to sell off other tribes from Africa then it has little to do with the black American experience.

    Africa is a very SMALL part of African-American history. It is simply the place our ancestors came from. Once they left Africa a whole new identity was formed. Like it or not black Americans have little to do with Africa.

    Just ask Africans. They cant stand your black ass for the most part.

    prolly because you say dumb ? like that.


    only in America do African descended people try to ignore their roots
  • jono
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    Darxwell wrote: »
    mryounggun wrote: »
    Darxwell wrote: »
    Unless you want to go into what tribes blacks came from and what regions and why certain tribes decided to sell off other tribes from Africa then it has little to do with the black American experience.

    Africa is a very SMALL part of African-American history. It is simply the place our ancestors came from. Once they left Africa a whole new identity was formed. Like it or not black Americans have little to do with Africa.

    Just ask Africans. They cant stand your black ass for the most part.

    Agreed. But Africa has a great deal to do with Black Americans.

    How so, other than it being where we were kidnapped from? That makes it relevant but lets not pretend it goes any deeper than "thats where we were kidnapped from...thats where Arab traders sold us after wars, etc."

    Noooooooo bruh, we were sold. The Africans were complicit in the slave trade, empires were built on it (Asante/Ashanti).

    I agree with your overall point. We are a different breed than Haitians or Nigerians and they are inherently different from us. In most cases we share skin color but no other cultural markings.

    I don't see how it's bad to celebrate OUR history. Especially when you can be quite sure that very few of any Black Americans are in history books of other black majority nations.

    Darxwell wrote: »
    Unless you want to go into what tribes blacks came from and what regions and why certain tribes decided to sell off other tribes from Africa then it has little to do with the black American experience.

    Africa is a very SMALL part of African-American history. It is simply the place our ancestors came from. Once they left Africa a whole new identity was formed. Like it or not black Americans have little to do with Africa.

    Just ask Africans. They cant stand your black ass for the most part.

    prolly because you say dumb ? like that.


    only in America do African descended people try to ignore their roots

    That's a straw man. It's not about ignoring your roots it's about taking pride in what you have done.
  • jono
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    BIGG WILL wrote: »
    Seems like a lot of people are voting on Culture/Heritage, but that connection is obvious. The question is, other than maybe Nelson Mandela, are there any African leaders (of Non-American origin) you hold next to Malcolm X, or Martin Luther King and celebrate their lives as you would X's, or Kings?

    Nkrumah definitely. Biko, Fanon, Cesaire, maybe Kenyatta.

    These folks highlight the parallels we all share have as black and oppressed peoples.

    Very important people to know.
  • StillFaggyAF
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    jono wrote: »
    Darxwell wrote: »
    mryounggun wrote: »
    Darxwell wrote: »
    Unless you want to go into what tribes blacks came from and what regions and why certain tribes decided to sell off other tribes from Africa then it has little to do with the black American experience.

    Africa is a very SMALL part of African-American history. It is simply the place our ancestors came from. Once they left Africa a whole new identity was formed. Like it or not black Americans have little to do with Africa.

    Just ask Africans. They cant stand your black ass for the most part.

    Agreed. But Africa has a great deal to do with Black Americans.

    How so, other than it being where we were kidnapped from? That makes it relevant but lets not pretend it goes any deeper than "thats where we were kidnapped from...thats where Arab traders sold us after wars, etc."

    Noooooooo bruh, we were sold. The Africans were complicit in the slave trade, empires were built on it (Asante/Ashanti).

    I agree with your overall point. We are a different breed than Haitians or Nigerians and they are inherently different from us. In most cases we share skin color but no other cultural markings.

    I don't see how it's bad to celebrate OUR history. Especially when you can be quite sure that very few of any Black Americans are in history books of other black majority nations.

    Darxwell wrote: »
    Unless you want to go into what tribes blacks came from and what regions and why certain tribes decided to sell off other tribes from Africa then it has little to do with the black American experience.

    Africa is a very SMALL part of African-American history. It is simply the place our ancestors came from. Once they left Africa a whole new identity was formed. Like it or not black Americans have little to do with Africa.

    Just ask Africans. They cant stand your black ass for the most part.

    prolly because you say dumb ? like that.


    only in America do African descended people try to ignore their roots

    That's a straw man. It's not about ignoring your roots it's about taking pride in what you have done.

    itt you have grown men feeling inferior. have you been to other countries to any of things you are saying? black americans are not special/different
  • zombie
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    African americans are not inherently different from nigerians or any other black people.
  • FatterThanKat
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    zombie wrote: »
    African americans are not inherently different from nigerians or any other black people.

    Culture.
  • jono
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    jono wrote: »
    Darxwell wrote: »
    mryounggun wrote: »
    Darxwell wrote: »
    Unless you want to go into what tribes blacks came from and what regions and why certain tribes decided to sell off other tribes from Africa then it has little to do with the black American experience.

    Africa is a very SMALL part of African-American history. It is simply the place our ancestors came from. Once they left Africa a whole new identity was formed. Like it or not black Americans have little to do with Africa.

    Just ask Africans. They cant stand your black ass for the most part.

    Agreed. But Africa has a great deal to do with Black Americans.

    How so, other than it being where we were kidnapped from? That makes it relevant but lets not pretend it goes any deeper than "thats where we were kidnapped from...thats where Arab traders sold us after wars, etc."

    Noooooooo bruh, we were sold. The Africans were complicit in the slave trade, empires were built on it (Asante/Ashanti).

    I agree with your overall point. We are a different breed than Haitians or Nigerians and they are inherently different from us. In most cases we share skin color but no other cultural markings.

    I don't see how it's bad to celebrate OUR history. Especially when you can be quite sure that very few of any Black Americans are in history books of other black majority nations.

    Darxwell wrote: »
    Unless you want to go into what tribes blacks came from and what regions and why certain tribes decided to sell off other tribes from Africa then it has little to do with the black American experience.

    Africa is a very SMALL part of African-American history. It is simply the place our ancestors came from. Once they left Africa a whole new identity was formed. Like it or not black Americans have little to do with Africa.

    Just ask Africans. They cant stand your black ass for the most part.

    prolly because you say dumb ? like that.


    only in America do African descended people try to ignore their roots

    That's a straw man. It's not about ignoring your roots it's about taking pride in what you have done.

    itt you have grown men feeling inferior. have you been to other countries to any of things you are saying? black americans are not special/different
    Where are you getting this concept that people feel "special"? I don't think anyone has even used that word.
    zombie wrote: »
    African americans are not inherently different from nigerians or any other black people.

    So all black people are the same?
  • StillFaggyAF
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    zombie wrote: »
    African americans are not inherently different from nigerians or any other black people.

    Culture.

    What parts of Af-Am culture aren't shared with the rest of the diaspora
  • zombie
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    jono wrote: »
    jono wrote: »
    Darxwell wrote: »
    mryounggun wrote: »
    Darxwell wrote: »
    Unless you want to go into what tribes blacks came from and what regions and why certain tribes decided to sell off other tribes from Africa then it has little to do with the black American experience.

    Africa is a very SMALL part of African-American history. It is simply the place our ancestors came from. Once they left Africa a whole new identity was formed. Like it or not black Americans have little to do with Africa.

    Just ask Africans. They cant stand your black ass for the most part.

    Agreed. But Africa has a great deal to do with Black Americans.

    How so, other than it being where we were kidnapped from? That makes it relevant but lets not pretend it goes any deeper than "thats where we were kidnapped from...thats where Arab traders sold us after wars, etc."

    Noooooooo bruh, we were sold. The Africans were complicit in the slave trade, empires were built on it (Asante/Ashanti).

    I agree with your overall point. We are a different breed than Haitians or Nigerians and they are inherently different from us. In most cases we share skin color but no other cultural markings.

    I don't see how it's bad to celebrate OUR history. Especially when you can be quite sure that very few of any Black Americans are in history books of other black majority nations.

    Darxwell wrote: »
    Unless you want to go into what tribes blacks came from and what regions and why certain tribes decided to sell off other tribes from Africa then it has little to do with the black American experience.

    Africa is a very SMALL part of African-American history. It is simply the place our ancestors came from. Once they left Africa a whole new identity was formed. Like it or not black Americans have little to do with Africa.

    Just ask Africans. They cant stand your black ass for the most part.

    prolly because you say dumb ? like that.


    only in America do African descended people try to ignore their roots

    That's a straw man. It's not about ignoring your roots it's about taking pride in what you have done.

    itt you have grown men feeling inferior. have you been to other countries to any of things you are saying? black americans are not special/different
    Where are you getting this concept that people feel "special"? I don't think anyone has even used that word.
    zombie wrote: »
    African americans are not inherently different from nigerians or any other black people.

    So all black people are the same?

    No all black people are not exactly the same but saying african americans are inherently different is too extreme and is a foolish statement.
  • jono
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    zombie wrote: »
    jono wrote: »
    jono wrote: »
    Darxwell wrote: »
    mryounggun wrote: »
    Darxwell wrote: »
    Unless you want to go into what tribes blacks came from and what regions and why certain tribes decided to sell off other tribes from Africa then it has little to do with the black American experience.

    Africa is a very SMALL part of African-American history. It is simply the place our ancestors came from. Once they left Africa a whole new identity was formed. Like it or not black Americans have little to do with Africa.

    Just ask Africans. They cant stand your black ass for the most part.

    Agreed. But Africa has a great deal to do with Black Americans.

    How so, other than it being where we were kidnapped from? That makes it relevant but lets not pretend it goes any deeper than "thats where we were kidnapped from...thats where Arab traders sold us after wars, etc."

    Noooooooo bruh, we were sold. The Africans were complicit in the slave trade, empires were built on it (Asante/Ashanti).

    I agree with your overall point. We are a different breed than Haitians or Nigerians and they are inherently different from us. In most cases we share skin color but no other cultural markings.

    I don't see how it's bad to celebrate OUR history. Especially when you can be quite sure that very few of any Black Americans are in history books of other black majority nations.

    Darxwell wrote: »
    Unless you want to go into what tribes blacks came from and what regions and why certain tribes decided to sell off other tribes from Africa then it has little to do with the black American experience.

    Africa is a very SMALL part of African-American history. It is simply the place our ancestors came from. Once they left Africa a whole new identity was formed. Like it or not black Americans have little to do with Africa.

    Just ask Africans. They cant stand your black ass for the most part.

    prolly because you say dumb ? like that.


    only in America do African descended people try to ignore their roots

    That's a straw man. It's not about ignoring your roots it's about taking pride in what you have done.

    itt you have grown men feeling inferior. have you been to other countries to any of things you are saying? black americans are not special/different
    Where are you getting this concept that people feel "special"? I don't think anyone has even used that word.
    zombie wrote: »
    African americans are not inherently different from nigerians or any other black people.

    So all black people are the same?

    No all black people are not exactly the same but saying african americans are inherently different is too extreme and is a foolish statement.
    How so
  • zombie
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    jono wrote: »
    zombie wrote: »
    jono wrote: »
    jono wrote: »
    Darxwell wrote: »
    mryounggun wrote: »
    Darxwell wrote: »
    Unless you want to go into what tribes blacks came from and what regions and why certain tribes decided to sell off other tribes from Africa then it has little to do with the black American experience.

    Africa is a very SMALL part of African-American history. It is simply the place our ancestors came from. Once they left Africa a whole new identity was formed. Like it or not black Americans have little to do with Africa.

    Just ask Africans. They cant stand your black ass for the most part.

    Agreed. But Africa has a great deal to do with Black Americans.

    How so, other than it being where we were kidnapped from? That makes it relevant but lets not pretend it goes any deeper than "thats where we were kidnapped from...thats where Arab traders sold us after wars, etc."

    Noooooooo bruh, we were sold. The Africans were complicit in the slave trade, empires were built on it (Asante/Ashanti).

    I agree with your overall point. We are a different breed than Haitians or Nigerians and they are inherently different from us. In most cases we share skin color but no other cultural markings.

    I don't see how it's bad to celebrate OUR history. Especially when you can be quite sure that very few of any Black Americans are in history books of other black majority nations.

    Darxwell wrote: »
    Unless you want to go into what tribes blacks came from and what regions and why certain tribes decided to sell off other tribes from Africa then it has little to do with the black American experience.

    Africa is a very SMALL part of African-American history. It is simply the place our ancestors came from. Once they left Africa a whole new identity was formed. Like it or not black Americans have little to do with Africa.

    Just ask Africans. They cant stand your black ass for the most part.

    prolly because you say dumb ? like that.


    only in America do African descended people try to ignore their roots

    That's a straw man. It's not about ignoring your roots it's about taking pride in what you have done.

    itt you have grown men feeling inferior. have you been to other countries to any of things you are saying? black americans are not special/different
    Where are you getting this concept that people feel "special"? I don't think anyone has even used that word.
    zombie wrote: »
    African americans are not inherently different from nigerians or any other black people.

    So all black people are the same?

    No all black people are not exactly the same but saying african americans are inherently different is too extreme and is a foolish statement.
    How so

    Because there is no inherent difference between african americans and most other black people especially those in the dispora.
  • kzzl
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    African history is relevant to all whom are descendants of it. Like anybody whose family is descended from any continent. The history is all equally important to who ever is appropriate.

    But what America fails to acknowledge is that "African-American" history, a history that took place in the USA, IS American history. But ? still ain't considered equal, so we have to celebrate separately. Black history month is like a slick remnant of some Jim Crow ? .

    I see what they did there.

  • BIGG WILL
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    jono wrote: »
    BIGG WILL wrote: »
    Seems like a lot of people are voting on Culture/Heritage, but that connection is obvious. The question is, other than maybe Nelson Mandela, are there any African leaders (of Non-American origin) you hold next to Malcolm X, or Martin Luther King and celebrate their lives as you would X's, or Kings?

    Nkrumah definitely. Biko, Fanon, Cesaire, maybe Kenyatta.

    These folks highlight the parallels we all share have as black and oppressed peoples.

    Very important people to know.

    GOATED.

    BIKO was the man. A man whos words were so powerful his oppressors banned him from speaking to more than one person at a time.

    I know I can easily used google, but to get more knowledge flowing through this thread put me up on game. Who os Nkrumah? That name isn't ringing a bell at all.

    Thanks.