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It was the same way with Stanton regarding trade rumors so I ain't worried yet.
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boras ? aside (as if you needed anymore reason than that) i think the marlins also know fernandez has a delivery that could result in lingering arm problems -- they were talking about him on mlb network last year and i remember them all agreeing that unless he learns to rotate his elbow more externally around the time his front foot plants that there is a high chance he gets hurt again
they also said its really not a difficult change BUT he would likely experience a dip in stuff because of it
white sox need to float sale name around too because his mechanics are a disaster but they seem to work for him physically -- hes had a couple of minor injuries and last year really got me thinking if theyre starting to get to him and if his injuries will be worse as he ages -- now it could be that sale is a freak of nature that can stay healthy despite the amount of pressure/torque placed on his shoulder and elbow but if a team wants to give up the farm for him then ? finding out
and thats what i think the marlins are doing
fernandez special and even with the injury risk worth trying to get signed long term but it doesnt hurt to float his name around to see if a team like the cubs would bite and then come out vehemently against it
The cubs were the 1st team I thought of cuz this literally what theo is looking for,a young cost controlled pitcher and fernandez is an ace but it would probably take a huge haul and that's what I'm skeptical about.
And I remember steve stone saying the same thing about kerry wood in 04.He said woods delivery is too violent and puts unnecessary strain on his elbow & shoulder.He said if wood don't change his delivery asap his days as a starter were numbered,that's when stone was beefing wit dusty,mercker,alou and the rest of those sensitive clowns who then choked the '04 wild card and we saw who was right.Wood lasted 2 more years as a starter with a combined 14 starts and mad dl trips -
Dallas Keuchel wins AL Cy young award
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Jake Arrieta Won the NL cy young
Kris bryant roy,maddon manager of the year and arrieta cy young and we got swept in the nlcs fuckk new york man
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Tommy bilfiger wrote: »boras ? aside (as if you needed anymore reason than that) i think the marlins also know fernandez has a delivery that could result in lingering arm problems -- they were talking about him on mlb network last year and i remember them all agreeing that unless he learns to rotate his elbow more externally around the time his front foot plants that there is a high chance he gets hurt again
they also said its really not a difficult change BUT he would likely experience a dip in stuff because of it
white sox need to float sale name around too because his mechanics are a disaster but they seem to work for him physically -- hes had a couple of minor injuries and last year really got me thinking if theyre starting to get to him and if his injuries will be worse as he ages -- now it could be that sale is a freak of nature that can stay healthy despite the amount of pressure/torque placed on his shoulder and elbow but if a team wants to give up the farm for him then ? finding out
and thats what i think the marlins are doing
fernandez special and even with the injury risk worth trying to get signed long term but it doesnt hurt to float his name around to see if a team like the cubs would bite and then come out vehemently against it
The cubs were the 1st team I thought of cuz this literally what theo is looking for,a young cost controlled pitcher and fernandez is an ace but it would probably take a huge haul and that's what I'm skeptical about.
And I remember steve stone saying the same thing about kerry wood in 04.He said woods delivery is too violent and puts unnecessary strain on his elbow & shoulder.He said if wood don't change his delivery asap his days as a starter were numbered,that's when stone was beefing wit dusty,mercker,alou and the rest of those sensitive clowns who then choked the '04 wild card and we saw who was right.Wood lasted 2 more years as a starter with a combined 14 starts and mad dl trips
lmao i forgot about that
mercker getting mad because they were praising the other team too much -- alou talking about steve stone is too critical to be doing cubs broadcasts and then dusty and the players trying to have stone and chip removed from the team plane for basically not being homers enough
but yeah thats why theo plan all along has been draft bats and avoid high draft pick pitchers -- the risk/reward for pitching is very different than with batters/position players and its only getting worse because i remember stone saying that kids with horrible mechanics are being allowed to put undue stress on their arms since youth and h.s coaches dont have the the expertise or knowledge to spot the problems and tweak the mechanics
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On at least two occasions in the Marlins clubhouse this season, Fernandez approached Hill --- according to multiple player sources --- and openly said "when are you going to trade me?"
"There were times this season where, not all, but some players and coaches hoped Jose would go out on the mound and get shelled," a player source told me. "We thought it would get him to be more humble."
The stories I've been told by several player sources within the last few weeks certainly paint a different picture of the team and their fan-friendly, star pitcher.
Marlins owner Jeffrey Loria implemented a team rule stating players and coaches are not permitted to wear pullover hoodies during batting practice or in the dugout during a game unless the team is playing in cold weather conditions. "That's a rule that Fernandez doesn't care about," one player source told me.
Casey McGehee --- who the Marlins brought back mid-season --- got into a shouting match with Fernandez before one game, I'm told. "Jose was late and Casey gave it to him," the source said. -
Yo we need one of them pitchers bruh...Them ? got hella talent in that rotation, Kluber, Carrassco, and Salazaar. We need 1 of them ? .
Honestly that team as a whole is crazy talented. If Kluber would've actually gotten some run support this past season they probably would've made the playoffs. -
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Yo we need one of them pitchers bruh...Them ? got hella talent in that rotation, Kluber, Carrassco, and Salazaar. We need 1 of them ? .
Honestly that team as a whole is crazy talented. If Kluber would've actually gotten some run support this past season they probably would've made the playoffs.
It will suck when we do trade one of our pitchers, but we're in a desperate need for some bats. Our offense was ? . -
The Yankees and Cubs have discussed a trade involving outfielder Brett Gardner and infielder Starlin Castro, reports Mark Feinsand of the New York Daily News. The Yankees have discussed Gardner with many other clubs as well, a source tells Feinsand.
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Marlins taking offers on Marcell Ozuna because Jeffrey Loria “can’t stand the guy”
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Jon heyman shot down that castro gardner trade talk.Thank goodness I don't want no yankees players not named miller,betances or severino the rest of that larry holmes roster can kiss my ass
I'm hearing there's a strong chance shark gonna return to the cubs
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Tommy bilfiger wrote: »The Yankees and Cubs have discussed a trade involving outfielder Brett Gardner and infielder Starlin Castro, reports Mark Feinsand of the New York Daily News. The Yankees have discussed Gardner with many other clubs as well, a source tells Feinsand.
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Oooooohhhhhh!!!!!! I ? with Gardner, that's my ? right there....but we need the young ? , let's make that happen b! -
Tommy bilfiger wrote: »Jon heyman shot down that castro gardner trade talk.Thank goodness I don't want no yankees players not named miller,betances or severino the rest of that larry holmes roster can kiss my ass
I'm hearing there's a strong chance shark gonna return to the cubs
uh oh
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? the giants lol damn so.kershaw wants puig traded wtf dodgers need to figure ? out we need a dusty baker if.not a old g to.come get control of the club house
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I want the cubs to sign jason heyward forget price
Trade for shelby miller or teheran(soler goes to the braves),sign heyward for cf until almora is ready and play bryant in rf,baez at 3b and sign shark.
Shark 4 years 64 mil,Heyward 8 years 176(opt out after 4) and we in there. -
Great defense,Good ob%,low strikeouts,contact hitter who can steal bases in a line up with schwarber,bryant,rizzo,russell,baez,castro would be a problem it improves the of defense and adds a contact hitter who can get on base ahead of the power.Add miller/teheran and shark and the rotation goes from iiight to strong
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Dave roberts is the dodgers new manager lol idk what to think we needed a vet coach but anyone is better then don
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i think the dodgers made the right decision with roberts
not that i like roberts better but im just not sold on kapler who is said to be some old school hard ass which is cool but i dont think he real with it -- this dude best years as a player came at the height of the steroid era, he flamed out prematurely, latched onto some good red sox teams as a specialist (kinda like dave) and i remember he somehow had his own commercial like he was the next coming of mickey mantle/5 tool player -- i remember watching it like, who is this guy
not a fan of his writing or tv work either
roberts has more experience on the bench + according to rosenthal dodgers players perceived kapler as management puppet
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i think the dodgers made the right decision with roberts
not that i like roberts better but im just not sold on kapler who is said to be some old school hard ass which is cool but i dont think he real with it -- this dude best years as a player came at the height of the steroid era, he flamed out prematurely, latched onto some good red sox teams as a specialist (kinda like dave) and i remember he somehow had his own commercial like he was the next coming of mickey mantle/5 tool player -- i remember watching it like, who is this guy
not a fan of his writing or tv work either
roberts has more experience on the bench + according to rosenthal dodgers players perceived kapler as management puppet
no brainer
If he can get the players to value base running and small ball and not just the long ball, he will be a big improvement. -
i think the dodgers made the right decision with roberts
not that i like roberts better but im just not sold on kapler who is said to be some old school hard ass which is cool but i dont think he real with it -- this dude best years as a player came at the height of the steroid era, he flamed out prematurely, latched onto some good red sox teams as a specialist (kinda like dave) and i remember he somehow had his own commercial like he was the next coming of mickey mantle/5 tool player -- i remember watching it like, who is this guy
not a fan of his writing or tv work either
roberts has more experience on the bench + according to rosenthal dodgers players perceived kapler as management puppet
no brainer
If he can get the players to value base running and small ball and not just the long ball, he will be a big improvement.
yeah and i dont think hes going to be completely old school having worked with bud black who even though is considered old school was said to have had a good grasp of sabrmetrics
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Price to Boston tho lol
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robinson cano supposedly unhappy in seattle and wants to go back to ny
