THE FACE OF JESUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CHRISTIANS, LETS TALK ABOUT IT
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This is hilarious to me. The mutation for white skin isn't a haplogroup or distinct genetic that distinguish you from a different ethnicity genetically. They are all Eurasians, but there are dark skin Euroasians as well. This is why race is mythos from the likes of Lord of the Rings as far as having any weight scientifically.
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Ajackson17 wrote: »This is hilarious to me. The mutation for white skin isn't a haplogroup or distinct genetic that distinguish you from a different ethnicity genetically. They are all Eurasians, but there are dark skin Euroasians as well. This is why race is mythos from the likes of Lord of the Rings as far as having any weight scientifically.
That makes no difference when we talk about white people we are not talking about "dark" eurasians -
race is primarily a social construct but it's not totally a social construct people want to erase the scientific validity of human differences between population only because acknowledgement of these difference has lead to human suffering.
and if any thing "races" are just categorizations/grouping together of different haplogroups -
race is primarily a social construct but it's not totally a social construct people want to erase the scientific validity of human differences between population only because acknowledgement of these difference has lead to human suffering.
and if any thing "races" are just categorizations/grouping together of different haplogroups
Well, in Americas we aren't using haplogroups, cause we tend to think of the Andaman people as sub-saharan Africans, but they are not. Genetic wise they are closer to the Japanese and Tibetans. Same with the Aboriginals of Australia. -
Ajackson17 wrote: »race is primarily a social construct but it's not totally a social construct people want to erase the scientific validity of human differences between population only because acknowledgement of these difference has lead to human suffering.
and if any thing "races" are just categorizations/grouping together of different haplogroups
Well, in Americas we aren't using haplogroups, cause we tend to think of the Andaman people as sub-saharan Africans, but they are not. Genetic wise they are closer to the Japanese and Tibetans. Same with the Aboriginals of Australia.
yes we are using haplogroups we are just not saying so
for example an person Irish may belong in one group and the Italians another but they are grouped together are white based on their physical similarity.
Race is just the simplest way to divide and categorize people but people are going to be divided anyway because that's just human nature. -
Nobody knows what Jesus looks like.
Revelations 1:14
"His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; 15And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace" -
Jesus isn't even his correct name..and wasn't the image of jesus created by the request of ceaser? As well as the description of jesus in the bible/torah a different reflection of what is portrayed.....I feel like this tread is some trolling funny ? because unless you really don't know your history it's obvious this isn't the real image
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BARON_$AMEDI wrote: »
LOL did you not read my first post? The bold in your own post explains it all. My ? you are not a child and I don't think I need to explain this ? to you like you are one. Why can you see "coherent arguments" whenever I'm speaking on ? ? in Islam, but not christianity? What is not "coherent" about me pointing out this blatant blasphemy of jesus being very popular all over the world. Why isn't the actual description of jesus in the bible super popular like the false one?What does those pictures being around mean other than a lot of people hang them up???? What does the tv depictions of Jesus have to do with what is actually taught current by Christian theology???? And what is in the bible.
@BARON_$AMEDI please for once can you make a coherent argument that's not based on assumptions or flat out wrong information.
Yeah..........what about them? That's a good ? question, kinda like another way of asking the same question that I just asked. What about all the obvious statues and paintings of ? in egypt? But yet and still, ? like this keeps happening.I really don't get the point of this thread . what about all the hundreds of depictions of dark skin biblical figures that can be found in churches all over the world including Ethiopia.
Quit playing dumb my ? !
So where did christianity come from? It sure as hell didn't come from black folks or africa. THAT AINT OUR ? ! Talk to some ethiopians who's family never drank the kool-aid of outsiders.They will tell you the true story about christianity and Islam. So will none brainwashed black egyptions(yes, they're still there), somali's, and ? in etruria. Y'all gone seriously sit there with a straight face and believe that we stopped doing what we was doing since forever because some cracka showed up telling stories? Christianity is notorious for covering up, erasing, sugar coating, and rewriting their atrocities all throughout history. So is islam, but not as bad as christianity(and all forms of it). As an "AWAKE" black man who's ancestors were dumped on them islands by christian white devils, you should know this.Christianity in Ethiopia was not started by white people. The Greeks and Romans never ruled Ethiopia.
Ethiopia is poor but it's not because of any religion.
You might as well believe crackas never had nothing to do with hundreds of years of evil done to our people. We did it to ourselves, we sold all of our loved ones into hundreds of years of hell. Your ancestors just hopped on a boat and went to those islands freely, to work for free, ? AFRICA! Black people were also godless savages jumping around in trees until the white man gave us jesus and civilized us.................
According to the christian church of Ethiopia Christianity was introduce to the nation by Philip the evangelist when he converted an Ethiopian court official this account is actually in the bible and Judaism was in Ethiopia centuries before that and it was a king of Axum that made it the official religion.
My ancestors were the akan people from what is today ghana they admitted to selling slaves to Europeans so did the current traditional rulers of Dahomey and i can prove that because is has been well documented
The arguments you are making are not coherent to me because they don't prove what you are trying to make them prove. If i start making pictures of A WHITE MLK that becomes very popular is that suddenly going to make him white???? There is no blaspheme in making pictures of Jesus because Jesus walked on earth and the prohibition is against worshiping images of men not simply creating them. Black people did not draw those white Jesus pictures so why should we have a problem with whites doing so??? they can do what they please. You act as if black people believe everything white people portray is the truth so if Europeans make Jesus or ancient Egyptians white then automatically black people believe it. Niggga black people are not as stupid as you think they are
The problem with you is that you make too many leaps in logic and assumptions you are also very obnoxious
The oppression and struggles of "black people" are not of actions that we did to ourselves. ..it's the reflection of the curse that was instilled upon us from the results of Abrahams offspring going against the most high...that curse held a doctirine that we would lose our self identity and have years of suffering....white people all in all are a genetic mutuality that was also enhanced by their region and so forth. Their lack of natural common sense, natural barbaric acts when they express negative emotion, their natural hunger for control and ? their inability to practice faith and their disregard for peace and equality without judgement....... to me....makes them appear to be demons in the flesh here to enforce thus said curse of the isrealites -
y'all ? bore me with this ? .
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right, but he doesn't have to look like every other white guykingblaze84 wrote: »Yeah, I'm fairly sure Alexander the Great was a White guy.
yesThe_Jackal wrote: »So Persians are white now to?
Persians/Iranians ARE white though.kingblaze84 wrote: »No exact nationality is White, but most Europeans (Greeks, Italians, Swiss, etc) are definitely White.
Persia is in modern day Iran and I personally don't consider Persians White. I'm sure some Persians were or are White though.
ironic note: one of your "definitely white" groups there was long considered not white enough to be Actually White -
no. you do not quote an APOCALYPTIC VISION to describe what someone looked like in real life.Revelations 1:14
"His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; 15And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace"
also, Revelation. no S. -
right, but he doesn't have to look like every other white guykingblaze84 wrote: »Yeah, I'm fairly sure Alexander the Great was a White guy.
yesThe_Jackal wrote: »So Persians are white now to?
Persians/Iranians ARE white though.kingblaze84 wrote: »No exact nationality is White, but most Europeans (Greeks, Italians, Swiss, etc) are definitely White.
Persia is in modern day Iran and I personally don't consider Persians White. I'm sure some Persians were or are White though.
ironic note: one of your "definitely white" groups there was long considered not white enough to be Actually White
Is this Iranian white? Most Iranians are olive skinned from what I've seen
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Aquafina..floe wrote: »BARON_$AMEDI wrote: »
LOL did you not read my first post? The bold in your own post explains it all. My ? you are not a child and I don't think I need to explain this ? to you like you are one. Why can you see "coherent arguments" whenever I'm speaking on ? ? in Islam, but not christianity? What is not "coherent" about me pointing out this blatant blasphemy of jesus being very popular all over the world. Why isn't the actual description of jesus in the bible super popular like the false one?What does those pictures being around mean other than a lot of people hang them up???? What does the tv depictions of Jesus have to do with what is actually taught current by Christian theology???? And what is in the bible.
@BARON_$AMEDI please for once can you make a coherent argument that's not based on assumptions or flat out wrong information.
Yeah..........what about them? That's a good ? question, kinda like another way of asking the same question that I just asked. What about all the obvious statues and paintings of ? in egypt? But yet and still, ? like this keeps happening.I really don't get the point of this thread . what about all the hundreds of depictions of dark skin biblical figures that can be found in churches all over the world including Ethiopia.
Quit playing dumb my ? !
So where did christianity come from? It sure as hell didn't come from black folks or africa. THAT AINT OUR ? ! Talk to some ethiopians who's family never drank the kool-aid of outsiders.They will tell you the true story about christianity and Islam. So will none brainwashed black egyptions(yes, they're still there), somali's, and ? in etruria. Y'all gone seriously sit there with a straight face and believe that we stopped doing what we was doing since forever because some cracka showed up telling stories? Christianity is notorious for covering up, erasing, sugar coating, and rewriting their atrocities all throughout history. So is islam, but not as bad as christianity(and all forms of it). As an "AWAKE" black man who's ancestors were dumped on them islands by christian white devils, you should know this.Christianity in Ethiopia was not started by white people. The Greeks and Romans never ruled Ethiopia.
Ethiopia is poor but it's not because of any religion.
You might as well believe crackas never had nothing to do with hundreds of years of evil done to our people. We did it to ourselves, we sold all of our loved ones into hundreds of years of hell. Your ancestors just hopped on a boat and went to those islands freely, to work for free, ? AFRICA! Black people were also godless savages jumping around in trees until the white man gave us jesus and civilized us.................
According to the christian church of Ethiopia Christianity was introduce to the nation by Philip the evangelist when he converted an Ethiopian court official this account is actually in the bible and Judaism was in Ethiopia centuries before that and it was a king of Axum that made it the official religion.
My ancestors were the akan people from what is today ghana they admitted to selling slaves to Europeans so did the current traditional rulers of Dahomey and i can prove that because is has been well documented
The arguments you are making are not coherent to me because they don't prove what you are trying to make them prove. If i start making pictures of A WHITE MLK that becomes very popular is that suddenly going to make him white???? There is no blaspheme in making pictures of Jesus because Jesus walked on earth and the prohibition is against worshiping images of men not simply creating them. Black people did not draw those white Jesus pictures so why should we have a problem with whites doing so??? they can do what they please. You act as if black people believe everything white people portray is the truth so if Europeans make Jesus or ancient Egyptians white then automatically black people believe it. Niggga black people are not as stupid as you think they are
The problem with you is that you make too many leaps in logic and assumptions you are also very obnoxious
The oppression and struggles of "black people" are not of actions that we did to ourselves. ..it's the reflection of the curse that was instilled upon us from the results of Abrahams offspring going against the most high...that curse held a doctirine that we would lose our self identity and have years of suffering....white people all in all are a genetic mutuality that was also enhanced by their region and so forth. Their lack of natural common sense, natural barbaric acts when they express negative emotion, their natural hunger for control and ? their inability to practice faith and their disregard for peace and equality without judgement....... to me....makes them appear to be demons in the flesh here to enforce thus said curse of the isrealites
So basically, the Bible ? co-signed all the evil and suffering that happened to Blacks, and in some ways engineered it. How fantastic. -
Aquafina..floe wrote: »BARON_$AMEDI wrote: »
LOL did you not read my first post? The bold in your own post explains it all. My ? you are not a child and I don't think I need to explain this ? to you like you are one. Why can you see "coherent arguments" whenever I'm speaking on ? ? in Islam, but not christianity? What is not "coherent" about me pointing out this blatant blasphemy of jesus being very popular all over the world. Why isn't the actual description of jesus in the bible super popular like the false one?What does those pictures being around mean other than a lot of people hang them up???? What does the tv depictions of Jesus have to do with what is actually taught current by Christian theology???? And what is in the bible.
@BARON_$AMEDI please for once can you make a coherent argument that's not based on assumptions or flat out wrong information.
Yeah..........what about them? That's a good ? question, kinda like another way of asking the same question that I just asked. What about all the obvious statues and paintings of ? in egypt? But yet and still, ? like this keeps happening.I really don't get the point of this thread . what about all the hundreds of depictions of dark skin biblical figures that can be found in churches all over the world including Ethiopia.
Quit playing dumb my ? !
So where did christianity come from? It sure as hell didn't come from black folks or africa. THAT AINT OUR ? ! Talk to some ethiopians who's family never drank the kool-aid of outsiders.They will tell you the true story about christianity and Islam. So will none brainwashed black egyptions(yes, they're still there), somali's, and ? in etruria. Y'all gone seriously sit there with a straight face and believe that we stopped doing what we was doing since forever because some cracka showed up telling stories? Christianity is notorious for covering up, erasing, sugar coating, and rewriting their atrocities all throughout history. So is islam, but not as bad as christianity(and all forms of it). As an "AWAKE" black man who's ancestors were dumped on them islands by christian white devils, you should know this.Christianity in Ethiopia was not started by white people. The Greeks and Romans never ruled Ethiopia.
Ethiopia is poor but it's not because of any religion.
You might as well believe crackas never had nothing to do with hundreds of years of evil done to our people. We did it to ourselves, we sold all of our loved ones into hundreds of years of hell. Your ancestors just hopped on a boat and went to those islands freely, to work for free, ? AFRICA! Black people were also godless savages jumping around in trees until the white man gave us jesus and civilized us.................
According to the christian church of Ethiopia Christianity was introduce to the nation by Philip the evangelist when he converted an Ethiopian court official this account is actually in the bible and Judaism was in Ethiopia centuries before that and it was a king of Axum that made it the official religion.
My ancestors were the akan people from what is today ghana they admitted to selling slaves to Europeans so did the current traditional rulers of Dahomey and i can prove that because is has been well documented
The arguments you are making are not coherent to me because they don't prove what you are trying to make them prove. If i start making pictures of A WHITE MLK that becomes very popular is that suddenly going to make him white???? There is no blaspheme in making pictures of Jesus because Jesus walked on earth and the prohibition is against worshiping images of men not simply creating them. Black people did not draw those white Jesus pictures so why should we have a problem with whites doing so??? they can do what they please. You act as if black people believe everything white people portray is the truth so if Europeans make Jesus or ancient Egyptians white then automatically black people believe it. Niggga black people are not as stupid as you think they are
The problem with you is that you make too many leaps in logic and assumptions you are also very obnoxious
The oppression and struggles of "black people" are not of actions that we did to ourselves. ..it's the reflection of the curse that was instilled upon us from the results of Abrahams offspring going against the most high...that curse held a doctirine that we would lose our self identity and have years of suffering....white people all in all are a genetic mutuality that was also enhanced by their region and so forth. Their lack of natural common sense, natural barbaric acts when they express negative emotion, their natural hunger for control and ? their inability to practice faith and their disregard for peace and equality without judgement....... to me....makes them appear to be demons in the flesh here to enforce thus said curse of the isrealites
NOPE. the vast vast majority of human suffering was caused by the works of man had we obeyed the messages of Christ the African slave trade would never have happened. THERE IS DOCUMENTED proof that black people sold other black people. White people are humans just very different looking humans who had a culture that supported the ruthless exploration of other people. They pretty much just ignored the parts of Christ teaching that did not fit their desires. -
Did Africans trade African slaves before or after colonization or first contact from outsiders ??
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Persians let alone Middle Easterns aren't a race to my knowledge, but are an ethnicity. And by some standards whites would only constitute Anglo-Saxons and the Nordics
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faithBARON_$AMEDI wrote: »
religion is based primarily on faith YOU HOWEVER JUST LIED ABOUT PROVEN HISTORICAL FACT and refuse to admit it which shows how intellectually dishonest you are
fāTH/
noun
noun: faith
1.
complete trust or confidence in someone or something.
"this restores one's faith in politicians"
synonyms: trust, belief, confidence, conviction; More
optimism, hopefulness, hope
"he justified his boss's faith in him"
antonyms: mistrust
2.
strong belief in ? or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof
LOL let me ask you a few simple questions brotha.
1. Why do you(and a bunch of other people) believe the stories in the bible, people, places, and events are real and everything is true.......?
2. Why do you question, condemn, bad mouth, or completely deny other "faiths" different than your own by using non proven DOCUMENTS from your own(refer to/quote your bible)?
3. Is everything written in the bible historical facts, or just based off someones "faith"?
This is all mad confusing and makes no sense. Sort of like how ? says judging and killing is a sin. Then turns around and judges and destroys a bunch of ? having a ? party.kingblaze84 wrote: »BARON_$AMEDI wrote: »
Basically. If it wasn't for White men who were colonizing and murdering up and down the globe, Christianity in Africa would have very likely stayed isolated in Ethiopia, one with little facts and evidence to ever prove itself, up until this day.
It makes sense a religion as violent and savage as Christianity was mostly spread through the efforts of massive bloodshed and eventually colonization. If outer space aliens worship the Giant Spaghetti Monster and eventually colonize all of humanity, guess which religion most humans would be on now lol......
LOL you peep how these ? be reaching for anything to save their religions fuckery. LOL at this weak as excuse.
"BU BU BU BUT, it was in one place in africa and we are really unsure of how that even happened knowing how white people have gotten down all throughout history till this very day"
The ? did this have to do with me saying that this is an outside religion? That it's a young religion compared to others? That it's a bad twisted copy of older religious beliefs/stories? That the religion was spread by force, trickery, brainwashing, assimilation, and bloodshed? These ? is the champions of dodge ball. ? sound like republicans when you ask them a straight question. ? sound like rick ross when questioning his past. -
Powerful post my brotha. According to some Christians, this is not the average black kid growing up in a christian dominated society's experience. It's just me, you, and most likely our little black circle that assume that, and generalize it to the majority.the dukester wrote: »When I was a little boy my Mother (along with most of the neighborhood kids) were forced to go to church. We hated it with a purple passion.
We had to wear those hard "church shoes" wake up early on Sunday morning, then at the church we'd be surrounded by imagery of white people (Murals, busts in his likeness, white Jesus in the stain-glassed windows, etc.)
Then as I got older, I thought about how our Mother's forced us to go to church, just my Grandmother, forced her to go to church........and so on, and so on.
All the way back to slavery, when it was forced (Christianity) on them by the white slave-master. It's not a coincidence that the slave-master's justification for introducing slavery was to keep us under control, and keep our behavior in check. Which was the same justification our Mother's used for forcing the church, ie. White Jesus on us. I look at it as the oppressed, taking on the characteristics of the oppressor.
Every black kid in my neighborhood had that same picture of white Jesus in their house. The picture of white Jesus peered down on these households surrounded by hopelessness, poverty, self-hate, self-destructive behaviors (ie. Alcoholism, drug abuse, domestic violence, all used to anesthetize the pain).
Traditions, and culture are the conjoined twins, fused at the hip, that give religion it's powerful emotive power that go to the heart of why we still continue to embrace white Jesus. Furthermore, they reinforce those post-colonial power structures resulting in scores of indoctrinated black Christians proclaiming their allegiance to white Jesus/? . Ever wonder why most black churches in the South (the hotbed of slavery) are filled to the brim with fat, single, black Mother's with a "sprinkling" of black men present.
As long as we stay marred in the past accepting these false images, we will be like Usain Bolt, running in quicksand (All the power and speed from being "born gifted" but going nowhere fast). This is my clarion call to my fellow ill community posters. Take the chains off your brains and reject white Jesus, white ? , white angels.....All white everything!!
LOL that sounds like something a naive sheltered white person would say that was listening to black folks tell their actual life experiences.
I'm pretty sure nobody knows what this is a picture of, only in our small circle of ignorant ? has seen this plastered everywhere. I'm sure of it!!!!!!!!!
1. Andrew
2. Bartholomew or Nathanael
3. James, the Elder
4. James, the Lesser or Younger
5. John
6. Judas
7. Jude or Thaddeus
8. Matthew or Levi
9. Peter or Simon Peter
10. Philip
11. Simon the Zealot
12. Thomas
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yes, Ahmadinejad is a ?kingblaze84 wrote: »Is this Iranian white? Most Iranians are olive skinned from what I've seen
also, do you know who commonly gets called olive-skinned? among others, two groups you called "definitely White"
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BARON_$AMEDI wrote: »
faithBARON_$AMEDI wrote: »
religion is based primarily on faith YOU HOWEVER JUST LIED ABOUT PROVEN HISTORICAL FACT and refuse to admit it which shows how intellectually dishonest you are
fāTH/
noun
noun: faith
1.
complete trust or confidence in someone or something.
"this restores one's faith in politicians"
synonyms: trust, belief, confidence, conviction; More
optimism, hopefulness, hope
"he justified his boss's faith in him"
antonyms: mistrust
2.
strong belief in ? or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof
LOL let me ask you a few simple questions brotha.
1. Why do you(and a bunch of other people) believe the stories in the bible, people, places, and events are real and everything is true.......?
2. Why do you question, condemn, bad mouth, or completely deny other "faiths" different than your own by using non proven DOCUMENTS from your own(refer to/quote your bible)?
3. Is everything written in the bible historical facts, or just based off someones "faith"?
This is all mad confusing and makes no sense. Sort of like how ? says judging and killing is a sin. Then turns around and judges and destroys a bunch of ? having a ? party.kingblaze84 wrote: »BARON_$AMEDI wrote: »
Basically. If it wasn't for White men who were colonizing and murdering up and down the globe, Christianity in Africa would have very likely stayed isolated in Ethiopia, one with little facts and evidence to ever prove itself, up until this day.
It makes sense a religion as violent and savage as Christianity was mostly spread through the efforts of massive bloodshed and eventually colonization. If outer space aliens worship the Giant Spaghetti Monster and eventually colonize all of humanity, guess which religion most humans would be on now lol......
LOL you peep how these ? be reaching for anything to save their religions fuckery. LOL at this weak as excuse.
"BU BU BU BUT, it was in one place in africa and we are really unsure of how that even happened knowing how white people have gotten down all throughout history till this very day"
The ? did this have to do with me saying that this is an outside religion? That it's a young religion compared to others? That it's a bad twisted copy of older religious beliefs/stories? That the religion was spread by force, trickery, brainwashing, assimilation, and bloodshed? These ? is the champions of dodge ball. ? sound like republicans when you ask them a straight question. ? sound like rick ross when questioning his past.
1. we believe in the teachings of the bible because we have decided that the teachings contained in it detail the true principals of ? , and that it is the directions to the path of knowing ? . Also our conviction in the bible Ultimately being from ? is a result of our personal experience in seeing the promises of ? that are found in the bible ACTUALLY WORK within our lives. In other words if you obey ? you will see what he promised happen in your life.
2. Speaking for myself personally i don't bad mouth ALL other faiths just some, there is one in particular that i don't like because i believe it to be utterly evil.
3. THE bible contains history,poetry, prophecy, law and details the ethnic-genesis of the people today know as jews and Christians. The bible contains both faith and fact it's history however is told from one perspective.
4. Murder is a sin killing is not a sin, there is a huge distinction between the words. Capital punishment for example is not murder. SELF defense that ends in the death of the attacker is not murder. There is a whole book in the bible called judges people take thou shalt not judge out of context.
You can attack christian history which is fine with me because Christians have done horrible things and these things are in direct opposition to the teaching of christ. However in doing SO you have made historical errors. Christianity did not force itself into Ethiopia. I have answered all your questions. Respectfully ask me some more and i will answer you -
GabrielProsser wrote: »Did Africans trade African slaves before or after colonization or first contact from outsiders ??
Africans were selling slaves to each other way before European colonization it's just that africans did not treat their slaves like chattel. -
LOL the dodges are ? hilarious!!!!! It reminds me of this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAttzge8ejQ[/video]
This ? will never get old to me. -
BARON_$AMEDI wrote: »LOL the dodges are ? hilarious!!!!! It reminds me of this.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAttzge8ejQ[/video]
This ? will never get old to me.
HOW DID I DODGE YOUR QUESTIONS?????? -
GabrielProsser wrote: »Did Africans trade African slaves before or after colonization or first contact from outsiders ??
Africans were selling slaves to each other way before European colonization it's just that africans did not treat their slaves like chattel.
Were they trading slaves with the settlers along the coast, or only to other Africans? -
GabrielProsser wrote: »GabrielProsser wrote: »Did Africans trade African slaves before or after colonization or first contact from outsiders ??
Africans were selling slaves to each other way before European colonization it's just that africans did not treat their slaves like chattel.
Were they trading slaves with the settlers along the coast, or only to other Africans?
Prior to Arab enslavement. You don't really see that, along like west africa. It's hard to paint a picture without writings.
