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>There own website, run and promoted by them
>Being a unbiased and true source
Pick only one.
Again im not saying everyone of them aren't engineers just I doubt 4,000 legitimate ones have spoke out agsinst it. Your as bad as the people who believe everything the government says and have the same habit as using biased sources to strengthen your claim. -
The_Jackal wrote: »>There own website, run and promoted by them
>Being a unbiased and true source
Pick only one.
Again im not saying everyone of them aren't engineers just I doubt 4,000 legitimate ones have spoke out agsinst it. Your as bad as the people who believe everything the government says and have the same habit as using biased sources to strengthen your claim.
Their credentials are out there for the world to see. I've done my research and many of these architects and engineers are true experts in their field. I have every reason to take their word seriously. From everything I've read and heard, I have great reason to remain skeptical of the official govt story.
If you don't believe 4,000 architects and engineers have publicly doubted the story, fine. But 2,500 are part of that website and their credentials are official, Google their names and you'll see they have helped build and design buildings across the world. -
Even a member of the 9/11 commission, John Farmer, is on record as saying the Pentagon and federal govt REPEATEDLY lied about the events of 9/11. Geeee, I wonder why the federal govt would lie about the events of that day.
https://spktruth2power.wordpress.com/2010/01/25/the-911-commission-rejects-own-report-as-based-on-government-lies/
In 2006, The Washington Post reported…”Suspicion of wrongdoing ran so deep that the 10-member commission, in a secret meeting at the end of its tenure in summer 2004, debated referring the matter to the Justice Department for criminal investigation, according to several commission sources. Staff members and some commissioners thought that e-mails and other evidence provided enough probable cause to believe that military and aviation officials violated the law by making false statements to Congress and to the commission…”
In John Farmer’s book: “The Ground Truth: The Story Behind America’s Defense on 9/11″, the author builds the inescapably convincing case that the official version… is almost entirely untrue…
The 9/11 Commission now tells us that the official version of 9/11 was based on false testimony and documents and is almost entirely untrue. The details of this massive cover-up are carefully outlined in a book by John Farmer, who was the Senior Counsel for the 9/11 Commission.
--If even the SENIOR COUNSEL of the 9/11 Commission is saying the federal govt lied and deceived 9/11 commission members, then I don't know what to say. Either way, members of the 9/11 Commission now admit the 9/11 report was not a totally truthful or complete report. People have every right to doubt the official story of the lying ass federal govt. -
can you provide any from a reputable sitekingblaze84 wrote: »I've heard that explanation but many other experts doubt it could have collapsed in that way due to fire. I'll do some more research on it but there are plenty of experts who doubt this official story.kingblaze84 wrote: »
cases in pointkingblaze84 wrote: »
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have looked into it, it is that crazyi mean i know it sounds hilarious
, but if you look into it its actually not that crazy
have you ever really looked into it or are you just saying that?
not that i know anyone who worked for NASA back in the day or anything, which admittedly is anecdotal evidence -
have looked into it, it is that crazyi mean i know it sounds hilarious , but if you look into it its actually not that crazy
have you ever really looked into it or are you just saying that?
not that i know anyone who worked for NASA back in the day or anything, which admittedly is anecdotal evidence
i mean it was the cold war
it was extremely important for the u.s. to send the first ppl to the moon to demonstrate power
russia was doing better at that moment at sending ppl to space
if russians woulda been the first ppl on the moon it woulda been a huge ?
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can you provide any from a reputable sitekingblaze84 wrote: »I've heard that explanation but many other experts doubt it could have collapsed in that way due to fire. I'll do some more research on it but there are plenty of experts who doubt this official story.kingblaze84 wrote: »
cases in pointkingblaze84 wrote: »
Many of the engineers and architects are on video lol, I posted a video earlier. Their credentials can easily be looked up online from several sources, from Richard Gage to Jason Chesire to Robert Podolsky, who has worked on science and design projects for GE, AVCO and even the Air Force Avionics Lab. These architects and engineers are extremely accomplished and here's yet another video of them speaking against the official story, notice the credentials of these individuals that appear next to them. No need to watch the whole video, just bits and pieces, the credentials are there to see.
Even some firefighter groups now admit the official story doesn't add up, some appear in this video too.
https://youtu.be/kcd6PQAKmj4
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/01/AR2006080101300.html?sub=new -
well a) "here's a reason why you might want to fake it" isn't really an argument and b) it was the Cold War, why would the Soviets not call the US on it?i mean it was the cold war
it was extremely important for the u.s. to send the first ppl to the moon to demonstrate power
russia was doing better at that moment at sending ppl to space
if russians woulda been the first ppl on the moon it woulda been a huge ?
telling me they're on video somewhere doesn't mean you're giving me information from a reputable site, you know.kingblaze84 wrote: »Many of the engineers and architects are on video lol, I posted a video earlier.
but here's the thing: there are plenty of engineers and architects backing the official story. so either we're going to have a debate about who's more qualified, or a debate about "what other questionable beliefs do these guys believe in that will undermine them on THIS issue," or i guess someone could provide some Serious Evidence. -
well a) "here's a reason why you might want to fake it" isn't really an argument and b) it was the Cold War, why would the Soviets not call the US on it?i mean it was the cold war
it was extremely important for the u.s. to send the first ppl to the moon to demonstrate power
russia was doing better at that moment at sending ppl to space
if russians woulda been the first ppl on the moon it woulda been a huge ?
what i heard but i dont know if its true is that the russians never had access to all the information from the apollo moon program
And that a few yrs bacc when they got access to the calculations and all, they looked at it and said this cant possibly be true
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pj3ibjRY8Lo
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https://youtu.be/9i8Gtg88ABE
https://youtu.be/_ZfsC6rs8Xo
https://youtu.be/AvbiKkV7UfA
https://youtu.be/hmXp5nrGSwQ
https://youtu.be/KjEHF1RHnSg
Oh yeah and this:
https://youtu.be/if1qCfMsy_A
But it's just a game.........SMH
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well a) "here's a reason why you might want to fake it" isn't really an argument and b) it was the Cold War, why would the Soviets not call the US on it?i mean it was the cold war
it was extremely important for the u.s. to send the first ppl to the moon to demonstrate power
russia was doing better at that moment at sending ppl to space
if russians woulda been the first ppl on the moon it woulda been a huge ?
telling me they're on video somewhere doesn't mean you're giving me information from a reputable site, you know.kingblaze84 wrote: »Many of the engineers and architects are on video lol, I posted a video earlier.
but here's the thing: there are plenty of engineers and architects backing the official story. so either we're going to have a debate about who's more qualified, or a debate about "what other questionable beliefs do these guys believe in that will undermine them on THIS issue," or i guess someone could provide some Serious Evidence.
Well considering some members of the 9/11 Commission have stated the official govt story was built on lies and many highly accomplished engineers and architects, alongside some firefighter groups also doubting the official story, there will be many reasons to doubt the official story for years to come. There is a whole lot we don't know about that day, based on the many lies the govt told the 9/11 Commission. -
it's not about access to Apollo. it's that they had the means to track it and call us out if we were faking itwhat i heard but i dont know if its true is that the russians never had access to all the information from the apollo moon program
...who is "they"And that a few yrs bacc when they got access to the calculations and all, they looked at it and said this cant possibly be true
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intentionally vague. what are the lies in question?kingblaze84 wrote: »Well considering some members of the 9/11 Commission have stated the official govt story was built on lies-
yeah, i DID read this the first time. so to repeat: "but here's the thing: there are plenty of engineers and architects backing the official story. so either we're going to have a debate about who's more qualified, or a debate about "what other questionable beliefs do these guys believe in that will undermine them on THIS issue," or i guess someone could provide some Serious Evidence."kingblaze84 wrote: »-and many highly accomplished engineers and architects, alongside some firefighter groups also doubting the official story
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it's not about access to Apollo. it's that they had the means to track it and call us out if we were faking itwhat i heard but i dont know if its true is that the russians never had access to all the information from the apollo moon program
...who is "they"And that a few yrs bacc when they got access to the calculations and all, they looked at it and said this cant possibly be true
russians, who else?
i actually watched a movie yesterday about the fake moon landing and the ? is spot on, you should watch it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRoMpeUGZ9I
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this is the part that doesn't make sense. the Russians wouldn't have had to wait until "a few years back" to call out a fake moon landing; they had the ability to call it out at the timeAnd that a few yrs bacc when they got access to the calculations and all-
i am... familiar with the arguments that the moon landing* was fake. never seen one that was "spot on."i actually watched a movie yesterday about the fake moon landing and the ? is spot on, you should watch it.
*why do we keep saying "moon landing" when we landed on the moon six times?
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My personal fav is The Mandela Effect. Love sseeing those videos on ? changing and parraellel timelines, universes, dimensions and what not
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https://youtu.be/7mP6SfJiQWs
Demonic ritual to unveil Gotthard Train Tunnel in Switzerland.
@13:00min mark the number 9 on the clock.....
The number 9 is associated with Finality/judgment.
Amen.
https://youtu.be/JVw_mPvYcDM
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CERN! That Swiss ritualistic ceremony was a celebration. It's said besides them " breaking atoms" basically playing ? , that location is actually a portal. That ceremony told it all. Look at the video OP if you already haven't. It was over the top. Weird things R 2 come from that being tampered with.
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NO PLANES hit the towers it was computer animation
sandy hook and orlando shooting are hoaxes meaning nobody got shot its was all a movie scene
I can prove both especially sandy hook its almost been confirmed officially
Men never landed on the moon it was a hoax a nasa engineer slipped up and admitted we could not yet go trough a certain force shield yet that is way before the moon
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falseEther44mag wrote: »NO PLANES hit the towers it was computer animation
it hasn't and it won't beEther44mag wrote: »sandy hook and orlando shooting are hoaxes meaning nobody got shot its was all a movie scene
I can prove both especially sandy hook its almost been confirmed officially
been there multiple timesEther44mag wrote: »Men never landed on the moon it was a hoax a nasa engineer slipped up and admitted we could not yet go trough a certain force shield yet that is way before the moon
and if you can't even name the damn Van Allen radiation belt, ? with your "force shield" conspiracy -
you said false for the no plane theory yet you try to act smart because I didnt take time to get the name of the "force field " I was talkin about but the thing is, simply knowing a little bit about the laws of physics ,will tell you that its IMPOSSIBLE for a plane to dissapear completely in a building like its a hot knife going trough butter lol
later on I will prove to you that sandy hook was a hoax stupid blind sheep lol being blind to those things is one thing but insulting when you are clearly in the wrong and dont know it is funny to me and anybody else who is not in a deep coma -
yeah, i said false because it's false and i am saving time. it didn't "disappear completely." and by the way, a hot knife doesn't "dissapear" when it contacts butter.Ether44mag wrote: »you said false for the no plane theory yet you try to act smart because I didnt take time to get the name of the "force field " I was talkin about but the thing is, simply knowing a little bit about the laws of physics ,will tell you that its IMPOSSIBLE for a plane to dissapear completely in a building like its a hot knife going trough butter lol
well, you won't, because it wasn't.Ether44mag wrote: »later on I will prove to you that sandy hook was a hoax stupid blind sheep
it's not funny to me. it's sad that you're so ignorant.Ether44mag wrote: »lol being blind to those things is one thing but insulting when you are clearly in the wrong and dont know it is funny to me and anybody else who is not in a deep coma
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sc3oSyCkU8
theres no colision impact...the plane stays straight the whole time it crashes into the building hahaha come on man... EVEN THE ? WINGS ! gotta be dumb to not see the ? 17 years later smh
and they even put a devil face in the smoke just to add insult to injury playing with their computer simulation smh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16bPTlsf1Fc
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Ether44mag wrote: »https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sc3oSyCkU8
theres no colision impact...the plane stays straight the whole time it crashes into the building hahaha come on man... EVEN THE ? WINGS ! gotta be dumb to not see the ? 17 years later smh
and they even put a devil face in the smoke just to add insult to injury playing with their computer simulation smhhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16bPTlsf1Fc
What about the witnesses who saw the planes hit the towers, there were thousands of them lol. Do you think missiles hit the towers, because although I don't buy the entire govt story, it does look like planes that hit the towers. There were people inside planes that died that day, the airlines confirmed that.
LOL at the devil face thing, just curious who do you think planned the attacks.....? And why -
kingblaze84 wrote: »Ether44mag wrote: »https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sc3oSyCkU8
theres no colision impact...the plane stays straight the whole time it crashes into the building hahaha come on man... EVEN THE ? WINGS ! gotta be dumb to not see the ? 17 years later smh
and they even put a devil face in the smoke just to add insult to injury playing with their computer simulation smhhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16bPTlsf1Fc
What about the witnesses who saw the planes hit the towers, there were thousands of them lol. Do you think missiles hit the towers, because although I don't buy the entire govt story, it does look like planes that hit the towers. There were people inside planes that died that day, the airlines confirmed that.
LOL at the devil face thing, just curious who do you think planned the attacks.....? And why
the witnesses saw the planes on tv...the other cameras who filmed are just people that are part of the plan they released the footage THEY CHOSE TO RELEASE ,footage that was manipulated but all that is not even importnat you can clearly see the plane is computer animated you see the wing going behind the building and if you know anything about the laws of physics you can clearly see its imposible for a plane to dissapear in a building like that in a straight course,no wings breaking on the building or anything, come on now think for a second... like really dont even take my word use your head
who did that ? the Elite the bankers that needed an excuse to go to war cause war makes money and they since made afghanistan be part of their banking system ,plus it started the beginning of their plan to hypnotise with fear the american population
of course all that will sound crazy if you never folowed none this ? but I been folowing occult ? since 98 and the plan from the elites and conspiracies etc but again ? all that just look at the plane crashing into the building and use your head its simply impossible
