15 Yr Old Backpage Prostitute Sentenced To 9 Yrs In Prison

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  • damobb2deep
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    AP21 wrote: »
    i swear some of you nigs up in here hate women

    just stop pretending you're heterosexual now

    ya'll need to stop taking such a one size fits all approach when it comes to women

    jesus crust

    But yall doing the same thing on the opposite side....

    When you are that far gone at that age you already feel like you are grown.. it takes YOU to want to change no amount of "help" is going to "save you"
  • AP21
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    AP21 wrote: »
    i swear some of you nigs up in here hate women

    just stop pretending you're heterosexual now

    ya'll need to stop taking such a one size fits all approach when it comes to women

    jesus crust

    But yall doing the same thing on the opposite side....

    When you are that far gone at that age you already feel like you are grown.. it takes YOU to want to change no amount of "help" is going to "save you"

    thats not true for everybody

    its easy for someone in my situation to look down on her b/c i didnt have to worry about how to feed kids at 15. How and why she got the kids at that point is another discussion and a much deeper one at that.

    the fact is, she is 15 and thinking about survival and not about logic or reasoning. She shouldnt be jailed for that long of a sentence b/c it just destroys another family in the process.
  • Billy_Poncho
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    They know damn well they would've sent Sally to juvie/boot camp for a year
  • Westie
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    jono wrote: »
    Westie wrote: »
    jono wrote: »
    She's 15. In 9 years she'll be 24, she has her whole life in front of her to make better decisions but she earned that 10 year sentence.

    Multiple armed robberies, prostitution, c'mon bruh. We not talking about truancy or some stupid juvenile crimes. Her and those dudes are predators, they lured people into those robberies.

    Getting pregnant is something that happens accidentally. Im sure she didn't do that on purpose but they planned those robberies. If she can plan a robbery she can go to prison for it.

    She'll be fine. Its the best thing for her in the long run. Take her out of that ? environment where she was robbing people, hooking and getting pregnant and put her somewhere where she can get help.

    She'll be fine being raised in a prison? She'll have her whole life ahead of her at 24 years old fresh out of prison with no education? What the ? type of world do you live in to think that?

    She apparently hasn't been raised by anyone thus far.

    Some people do come out of prison bad but some don't. Some people actually do get themselves together in prison.

    Showing her that there is no responsibility for her actions teaches her what exactly? Leaving her in the hood to be continually turned out does what?

    She'll have educational opportunities in prison. She can get a GED or something, hoperfully learn a skill to turn her life around. She's in no position to be any sort of positive influence on her children and she has no positive influences of her own.

    Who said she doesn't deserve consequences? I didn't say let her off, 9 years is excessive.
  • damobb2deep
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    AP21 wrote: »
    AP21 wrote: »
    i swear some of you nigs up in here hate women

    just stop pretending you're heterosexual now

    ya'll need to stop taking such a one size fits all approach when it comes to women

    jesus crust

    But yall doing the same thing on the opposite side....

    When you are that far gone at that age you already feel like you are grown.. it takes YOU to want to change no amount of "help" is going to "save you"

    thats not true for everybody

    its easy for someone in my situation to look down on her b/c i didnt have to worry about how to feed kids at 15. How and why she got the kids at that point is another discussion and a much deeper one at that.

    the fact is, she is 15 and thinking about survival and not about logic or reasoning. She shouldnt be jailed for that long of a sentence b/c it just destroys another family in the process.

    This is why I said yall are doing the same thing on the opposite side.. im not saying look down on her but at 15 you may not be as mature as say someone in their 30's but you are mature enough to know whats right and whats wrong... and old enough to deal with the consequences for those actions..
  • desertrain10
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    jono wrote: »
    She's 15. In 9 years she'll be 24, she has her whole life in front of her to make better decisions but she earned that 10 year sentence.

    Multiple armed robberies, prostitution, c'mon bruh. We not talking about truancy or some stupid juvenile crimes. Her and those dudes are predators, they lured people into those robberies.

    Getting pregnant is something that happens accidentally. Im sure she didn't do that on purpose but they planned those robberies. If she can plan a robbery she can go to prison for it.

    She'll be fine. Its the best thing for her in the long run. Take her out of that ? environment where she was robbing people, hooking and getting pregnant and put her somewhere where she can get help.

    she'll be fine?

    she'll be fine after 9 years in prison surrounded by older, hardened criminals, and away from her children?

    while there are the exceptions, american prisons have only been good for exploiting and housing society's undesirables

    there is not nearly enough funding there to actually rehabilitate people

    then whenever she gets out, there will be very few job opportunities for her, she cannot vote, will not qualify for certain government programs/grants, etc

    she certainly deserved to be punished for her actions, but the sentence does not fit the crime, and chances are it will not serve to rehabilitate the girl

  • blackrain
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    jono wrote: »
    She's 15. In 9 years she'll be 24, she has her whole life in front of her to make better decisions but she earned that 10 year sentence.

    Multiple armed robberies, prostitution, c'mon bruh. We not talking about truancy or some stupid juvenile crimes. Her and those dudes are predators, they lured people into those robberies.

    Getting pregnant is something that happens accidentally. Im sure she didn't do that on purpose but they planned those robberies. If she can plan a robbery she can go to prison for it.

    She'll be fine. Its the best thing for her in the long run. Take her out of that ? environment where she was robbing people, hooking and getting pregnant and put her somewhere where she can get help.

    Yeah because sending a 25 year old to prison typically yields amazing results in helping people so a 15 year old whose brain is still developing would get great results
  • jono
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    jono wrote: »
    She's 15. In 9 years she'll be 24, she has her whole life in front of her to make better decisions but she earned that 10 year sentence.

    Multiple armed robberies, prostitution, c'mon bruh. We not talking about truancy or some stupid juvenile crimes. Her and those dudes are predators, they lured people into those robberies.

    Getting pregnant is something that happens accidentally. Im sure she didn't do that on purpose but they planned those robberies. If she can plan a robbery she can go to prison for it.

    She'll be fine. Its the best thing for her in the long run. Take her out of that ? environment where she was robbing people, hooking and getting pregnant and put her somewhere where she can get help.

    she'll be fine?

    she'll be fine after 9 years in prison surrounded by older, hardened criminals, and away from her children?

    while there are the exceptions, american prisons have only been good for exploiting and housing society's undesirables

    there is not nearly enough funding there to actually rehabilitate people

    then whenever she gets out, there will be very few job opportunities for her, she cannot vote, will not qualify for certain government programs/grants, etc

    she certainly deserved to be punished for her actions, but the sentence does not fit the crime, and chances are it will not serve to rehabilitate the girl

    So we pretending this kid is a credible mother? She's ? and robbing people, she don't need kids her own life is ? up.

    Whether she straightens up or not is a personal choice.

    She has to want to do better and she can.

    She already fell in with criminals so that argument is moot.

    I guarantee that 17 year old and that 18 year old going to get more than 9 years. Nobody care about their families or their tears or am I supposed to think theres a huge difference between 17 and 15?

    In Michigan armed robbery comes with mandatory prison, she was involved in at least two of them. So you looking at three felonies 2 of which she could have gotten LIFE for and ? mad she got 9? She lucky as ? .
  • jono
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    blackrain wrote: »
    jono wrote: »
    She's 15. In 9 years she'll be 24, she has her whole life in front of her to make better decisions but she earned that 10 year sentence.

    Multiple armed robberies, prostitution, c'mon bruh. We not talking about truancy or some stupid juvenile crimes. Her and those dudes are predators, they lured people into those robberies.

    Getting pregnant is something that happens accidentally. Im sure she didn't do that on purpose but they planned those robberies. If she can plan a robbery she can go to prison for it.

    She'll be fine. Its the best thing for her in the long run. Take her out of that ? environment where she was robbing people, hooking and getting pregnant and put her somewhere where she can get help.

    Yeah because sending a 25 year old to prison typically yields amazing results in helping people so a 15 year old whose brain is still developing would get great results

    It can. Not every one who goes to prison continues to ? up.
  • desertrain10
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    jono wrote: »
    jono wrote: »
    She's 15. In 9 years she'll be 24, she has her whole life in front of her to make better decisions but she earned that 10 year sentence.

    Multiple armed robberies, prostitution, c'mon bruh. We not talking about truancy or some stupid juvenile crimes. Her and those dudes are predators, they lured people into those robberies.

    Getting pregnant is something that happens accidentally. Im sure she didn't do that on purpose but they planned those robberies. If she can plan a robbery she can go to prison for it.

    She'll be fine. Its the best thing for her in the long run. Take her out of that ? environment where she was robbing people, hooking and getting pregnant and put her somewhere where she can get help.

    she'll be fine?

    she'll be fine after 9 years in prison surrounded by older, hardened criminals, and away from her children?

    while there are the exceptions, american prisons have only been good for exploiting and housing society's undesirables

    there is not nearly enough funding there to actually rehabilitate people

    then whenever she gets out, there will be very few job opportunities for her, she cannot vote, will not qualify for certain government programs/grants, etc

    she certainly deserved to be punished for her actions, but the sentence does not fit the crime, and chances are it will not serve to rehabilitate the girl

    So we pretending this kid is a credible mother? She's ? and robbing people, she don't need kids her own life is ? up.

    Whether she straightens up or not is a personal choice.

    She has to want to do better and she can.

    She already fell in with criminals so that argument is moot.

    I guarantee that 17 year old and that 18 year old going to get more than 9 years. Nobody care about their families or their tears or am I supposed to think theres a huge difference between 17 and 15?

    In Michigan armed robbery comes with mandatory prison, she was involved in at least two of them. So you looking at three felonies 2 of which she could have gotten LIFE for and ? mad she got 9? She lucky as ? .

    first i have to say mandatory minimum sentencing laws are ? ....they serve no one but the private prison industry and corrupt politicians

    that said, she did fall in with the wrong crowd, but putting her around more criminals for the next decade is the answer? really? she has to want to change, but is putting her in prison for that long conductive to that change

    and regardless of whether you think she was a credible mother, separating her from her children for 9 years is not the best decision if they are then left in the care of the very ppl that failed her or the state, which is more than likely

    she's made her bed, but crazy how we as a country can recognize teenage naivety and impulsiveness when to comes to the follies of white children, but not blks ...this is just another example
  • jono
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    jono wrote: »
    jono wrote: »
    She's 15. In 9 years she'll be 24, she has her whole life in front of her to make better decisions but she earned that 10 year sentence.

    Multiple armed robberies, prostitution, c'mon bruh. We not talking about truancy or some stupid juvenile crimes. Her and those dudes are predators, they lured people into those robberies.

    Getting pregnant is something that happens accidentally. Im sure she didn't do that on purpose but they planned those robberies. If she can plan a robbery she can go to prison for it.

    She'll be fine. Its the best thing for her in the long run. Take her out of that ? environment where she was robbing people, hooking and getting pregnant and put her somewhere where she can get help.

    she'll be fine?

    she'll be fine after 9 years in prison surrounded by older, hardened criminals, and away from her children?

    while there are the exceptions, american prisons have only been good for exploiting and housing society's undesirables

    there is not nearly enough funding there to actually rehabilitate people

    then whenever she gets out, there will be very few job opportunities for her, she cannot vote, will not qualify for certain government programs/grants, etc

    she certainly deserved to be punished for her actions, but the sentence does not fit the crime, and chances are it will not serve to rehabilitate the girl

    So we pretending this kid is a credible mother? She's ? and robbing people, she don't need kids her own life is ? up.

    Whether she straightens up or not is a personal choice.

    She has to want to do better and she can.

    She already fell in with criminals so that argument is moot.

    I guarantee that 17 year old and that 18 year old going to get more than 9 years. Nobody care about their families or their tears or am I supposed to think theres a huge difference between 17 and 15?

    In Michigan armed robbery comes with mandatory prison, she was involved in at least two of them. So you looking at three felonies 2 of which she could have gotten LIFE for and ? mad she got 9? She lucky as ? .

    first i have to say mandatory minimum sentencing laws are ? ....they serve no one but the private prison industry and corrupt politicians

    that said, she did fall in with the wrong crowd, but putting her around more criminals for the next decade is the answer? really? she has to want to change, but is putting her in prison for that long conductive to that change

    and regardless of whether you think she was a credible mother, separating her from her children for 9 years is not the best decision if they are then left in the care of the very ppl that failed her or the state, which is more than likely

    she's made her bed, but crazy how we as a country can recognize teenage naivety and impulsiveness when to comes to the follies of white children, but not blks ...this is just another example

    Im no fan of mandatory minimums but they exist.

    This isn't a conversation about naivete and impulsiveness either. They knowingly set up all this ? . Its not a fight or something where tempers were flaring, they lured in tricks to rob. Thats forethought so impulsiveness goes out the window.

    That forethought, which is INTENT is the issue here.

    As far as her parenting goes she's 15. If she were a half decent parent she wouldn't even be in this situation. With any luck because her children are young someone will take them in, but to sit here actin like its cool to be raised by 15 year old prostitutes is best for the kids is a farce
  • desertrain10
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    jono wrote: »
    jono wrote: »
    jono wrote: »
    She's 15. In 9 years she'll be 24, she has her whole life in front of her to make better decisions but she earned that 10 year sentence.

    Multiple armed robberies, prostitution, c'mon bruh. We not talking about truancy or some stupid juvenile crimes. Her and those dudes are predators, they lured people into those robberies.

    Getting pregnant is something that happens accidentally. Im sure she didn't do that on purpose but they planned those robberies. If she can plan a robbery she can go to prison for it.

    She'll be fine. Its the best thing for her in the long run. Take her out of that ? environment where she was robbing people, hooking and getting pregnant and put her somewhere where she can get help.

    she'll be fine?

    she'll be fine after 9 years in prison surrounded by older, hardened criminals, and away from her children?

    while there are the exceptions, american prisons have only been good for exploiting and housing society's undesirables

    there is not nearly enough funding there to actually rehabilitate people

    then whenever she gets out, there will be very few job opportunities for her, she cannot vote, will not qualify for certain government programs/grants, etc

    she certainly deserved to be punished for her actions, but the sentence does not fit the crime, and chances are it will not serve to rehabilitate the girl

    So we pretending this kid is a credible mother? She's ? and robbing people, she don't need kids her own life is ? up.

    Whether she straightens up or not is a personal choice.

    She has to want to do better and she can.

    She already fell in with criminals so that argument is moot.

    I guarantee that 17 year old and that 18 year old going to get more than 9 years. Nobody care about their families or their tears or am I supposed to think theres a huge difference between 17 and 15?

    In Michigan armed robbery comes with mandatory prison, she was involved in at least two of them. So you looking at three felonies 2 of which she could have gotten LIFE for and ? mad she got 9? She lucky as ? .

    first i have to say mandatory minimum sentencing laws are ? ....they serve no one but the private prison industry and corrupt politicians

    that said, she did fall in with the wrong crowd, but putting her around more criminals for the next decade is the answer? really? she has to want to change, but is putting her in prison for that long conductive to that change

    and regardless of whether you think she was a credible mother, separating her from her children for 9 years is not the best decision if they are then left in the care of the very ppl that failed her or the state, which is more than likely

    she's made her bed, but crazy how we as a country can recognize teenage naivety and impulsiveness when to comes to the follies of white children, but not blks ...this is just another example

    Im no fan of mandatory minimums but they exist.

    This isn't a conversation about naivete and impulsiveness either. They knowingly set up all this ? . Its not a fight or something where tempers were flaring, they lured in tricks to rob. Thats forethought so impulsiveness goes out the window.

    That forethought, which is INTENT is the issue here.

    As far as her parenting goes she's 15. If she were a half decent parent she wouldn't even be in this situation. With any luck because her children are young someone will take them in, but to sit here actin like its cool to be raised by 15 year old prostitutes is best for the kids is a farce

    lol

    the children being left in the care of the state or the ppl who failed their mother for the next 9 years is really that much better? how so?

    and an impulsive act doesn't necessarily mean it happened in hast

    what i mean by impulsive is badly thought out, misguided

    if you know many 15 years, they are easily manipulated and show faulty judgment or reasoning

    and have yet to grasp the consequences of their behavior...

    that goes for most adolescents, teenagers

    as i said before, she made her bed, just would rather she have been placed in a boot camp, juvenile facility for a year or 2 ...then ordered to take parenting classes, obtain her GED, community service...
  • damobb2deep
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    jono wrote: »
    jono wrote: »
    She's 15. In 9 years she'll be 24, she has her whole life in front of her to make better decisions but she earned that 10 year sentence.

    Multiple armed robberies, prostitution, c'mon bruh. We not talking about truancy or some stupid juvenile crimes. Her and those dudes are predators, they lured people into those robberies.

    Getting pregnant is something that happens accidentally. Im sure she didn't do that on purpose but they planned those robberies. If she can plan a robbery she can go to prison for it.

    She'll be fine. Its the best thing for her in the long run. Take her out of that ? environment where she was robbing people, hooking and getting pregnant and put her somewhere where she can get help.

    she'll be fine?

    she'll be fine after 9 years in prison surrounded by older, hardened criminals, and away from her children?

    while there are the exceptions, american prisons have only been good for exploiting and housing society's undesirables

    there is not nearly enough funding there to actually rehabilitate people

    then whenever she gets out, there will be very few job opportunities for her, she cannot vote, will not qualify for certain government programs/grants, etc

    she certainly deserved to be punished for her actions, but the sentence does not fit the crime, and chances are it will not serve to rehabilitate the girl

    So we pretending this kid is a credible mother? She's ? and robbing people, she don't need kids her own life is ? up.

    Whether she straightens up or not is a personal choice.

    She has to want to do better and she can.

    She already fell in with criminals so that argument is moot.

    I guarantee that 17 year old and that 18 year old going to get more than 9 years. Nobody care about their families or their tears or am I supposed to think theres a huge difference between 17 and 15?

    In Michigan armed robbery comes with mandatory prison, she was involved in at least two of them. So you looking at three felonies 2 of which she could have gotten LIFE for and ? mad she got 9? She lucky as ? .

    first i have to say mandatory minimum sentencing laws are ? ....they serve no one but the private prison industry and corrupt politicians

    that said, she did fall in with the wrong crowd, but putting her around more criminals for the next decade is the answer? really? she has to want to change, but is putting her in prison for that long conductive to that change

    and regardless of whether you think she was a credible mother, separating her from her children for 9 years is not the best decision if they are then left in the care of the very ppl that failed her or the state, which is more than likely

    she's made her bed, but crazy how we as a country can recognize teenage naivety and impulsiveness when to comes to the follies of white children, but not blks ...this is just another example

    You know no matter if she goes to jail... stays out of jail... goes to boot camp she is going to be around criminals no matter what right..

    So what do you think is the best option for her kids if she is going to go to jail and the only options are ones you say "is not the best"
  • Trillfate
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    ethan-couch.jpg

    Some of Yall in here talkin bout "its Fair" meanwhile this Muppet looking Cac killed 4 ppl, paralyzed 1 and injured 8 others, THEN he skipped the country cuz he didn't like PROBATION and he still wont see no part of 9 years...
  • desertrain10
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    jono wrote: »
    jono wrote: »
    She's 15. In 9 years she'll be 24, she has her whole life in front of her to make better decisions but she earned that 10 year sentence.

    Multiple armed robberies, prostitution, c'mon bruh. We not talking about truancy or some stupid juvenile crimes. Her and those dudes are predators, they lured people into those robberies.

    Getting pregnant is something that happens accidentally. Im sure she didn't do that on purpose but they planned those robberies. If she can plan a robbery she can go to prison for it.

    She'll be fine. Its the best thing for her in the long run. Take her out of that ? environment where she was robbing people, hooking and getting pregnant and put her somewhere where she can get help.

    she'll be fine?

    she'll be fine after 9 years in prison surrounded by older, hardened criminals, and away from her children?

    while there are the exceptions, american prisons have only been good for exploiting and housing society's undesirables

    there is not nearly enough funding there to actually rehabilitate people

    then whenever she gets out, there will be very few job opportunities for her, she cannot vote, will not qualify for certain government programs/grants, etc

    she certainly deserved to be punished for her actions, but the sentence does not fit the crime, and chances are it will not serve to rehabilitate the girl

    So we pretending this kid is a credible mother? She's ? and robbing people, she don't need kids her own life is ? up.

    Whether she straightens up or not is a personal choice.

    She has to want to do better and she can.

    She already fell in with criminals so that argument is moot.

    I guarantee that 17 year old and that 18 year old going to get more than 9 years. Nobody care about their families or their tears or am I supposed to think theres a huge difference between 17 and 15?

    In Michigan armed robbery comes with mandatory prison, she was involved in at least two of them. So you looking at three felonies 2 of which she could have gotten LIFE for and ? mad she got 9? She lucky as ? .

    first i have to say mandatory minimum sentencing laws are ? ....they serve no one but the private prison industry and corrupt politicians

    that said, she did fall in with the wrong crowd, but putting her around more criminals for the next decade is the answer? really? she has to want to change, but is putting her in prison for that long conductive to that change

    and regardless of whether you think she was a credible mother, separating her from her children for 9 years is not the best decision if they are then left in the care of the very ppl that failed her or the state, which is more than likely

    she's made her bed, but crazy how we as a country can recognize teenage naivety and impulsiveness when to comes to the follies of white children, but not blks ...this is just another example

    You know no matter if she goes to jail... stays out of jail... goes to boot camp she is going to be around criminals no matter what right..

    So what do you think is the best option for her kids if she is going to go to jail and the only options are ones you say "is not the best"

    all i know for sure is now a 15 yr old girl is going to be going to prison for at least half a decade...which i believe is harsh and serves no one

    what's best for her kids? putting their mother in a position to improve her lot in life and succeed...even if that means removing them from her care for a short time, but not 5,10 years

    and again she does deserve some sort of punishment
  • damobb2deep
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    Trillfate wrote: »
    ethan-couch.jpg

    Some of Yall in here talkin bout "its Fair" meanwhile this Muppet looking Cac killed 4 ppl, paralyzed 1 and injured 8 others, THEN he skipped the country cuz he didn't like PROBATION and he still wont see no part of 9 years...

    Honestly idgaf... im not sitting here to "compare" cases... i believe dude should get just as much time if not more than her... now the fact that he didnt is ? up but im not the judge in either case.. you ? up teen or not it dont matter do the time they give you... simple..
  • damobb2deep
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    jono wrote: »
    jono wrote: »
    She's 15. In 9 years she'll be 24, she has her whole life in front of her to make better decisions but she earned that 10 year sentence.

    Multiple armed robberies, prostitution, c'mon bruh. We not talking about truancy or some stupid juvenile crimes. Her and those dudes are predators, they lured people into those robberies.

    Getting pregnant is something that happens accidentally. Im sure she didn't do that on purpose but they planned those robberies. If she can plan a robbery she can go to prison for it.

    She'll be fine. Its the best thing for her in the long run. Take her out of that ? environment where she was robbing people, hooking and getting pregnant and put her somewhere where she can get help.

    she'll be fine?

    she'll be fine after 9 years in prison surrounded by older, hardened criminals, and away from her children?

    while there are the exceptions, american prisons have only been good for exploiting and housing society's undesirables

    there is not nearly enough funding there to actually rehabilitate people

    then whenever she gets out, there will be very few job opportunities for her, she cannot vote, will not qualify for certain government programs/grants, etc

    she certainly deserved to be punished for her actions, but the sentence does not fit the crime, and chances are it will not serve to rehabilitate the girl

    So we pretending this kid is a credible mother? She's ? and robbing people, she don't need kids her own life is ? up.

    Whether she straightens up or not is a personal choice.

    She has to want to do better and she can.

    She already fell in with criminals so that argument is moot.

    I guarantee that 17 year old and that 18 year old going to get more than 9 years. Nobody care about their families or their tears or am I supposed to think theres a huge difference between 17 and 15?

    In Michigan armed robbery comes with mandatory prison, she was involved in at least two of them. So you looking at three felonies 2 of which she could have gotten LIFE for and ? mad she got 9? She lucky as ? .

    first i have to say mandatory minimum sentencing laws are ? ....they serve no one but the private prison industry and corrupt politicians

    that said, she did fall in with the wrong crowd, but putting her around more criminals for the next decade is the answer? really? she has to want to change, but is putting her in prison for that long conductive to that change

    and regardless of whether you think she was a credible mother, separating her from her children for 9 years is not the best decision if they are then left in the care of the very ppl that failed her or the state, which is more than likely

    she's made her bed, but crazy how we as a country can recognize teenage naivety and impulsiveness when to comes to the follies of white children, but not blks ...this is just another example

    You know no matter if she goes to jail... stays out of jail... goes to boot camp she is going to be around criminals no matter what right..

    So what do you think is the best option for her kids if she is going to go to jail and the only options are ones you say "is not the best"

    all i know for sure is now a 15 yr old girl is going to be going to prison for at least half a decade...which i believe is harsh and serves no one

    what's best for her kids? putting their mother in a position to improve her lot in life and succeed...even if that means removing them from her care for a short time, but not 5,10 years

    and again she does deserve some sort of punishment

    Again it does not matter wtf is done its up to her if she wants to change.. and honestly 5 years in prison is very easy compared to what she could have gotten... which would you rather her do 5... or 20... she got off easy honestly..

    A slap on the wrist for ARMED ROBBERY AND PROSTITUTION serves no one as well.. if she got off easier than she has she honestly would be more likely to do it again (faster)..
  • Westie
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    Trillfate wrote: »
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    Some of Yall in here talkin bout "its Fair" meanwhile this Muppet looking Cac killed 4 ppl, paralyzed 1 and injured 8 others, THEN he skipped the country cuz he didn't like PROBATION and he still wont see no part of 9 years...

    Honestly idgaf... im not sitting here to "compare" cases... i believe dude should get just as much time if not more than her... now the fact that he didnt is ? up but im not the judge in either case.. you ? up teen or not it dont matter do the time they give you... simple..

    Just as much time for murder....okay...
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    She should have told them it was for a new To Catch A Predator
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    nex gin wrote: »
    15 yr old prostitute..??...

    15 yrs old w/ 2 kids..??...

    toy gun..??...

    9 yrs for robbing what are essentially child molesters..??...


    This ? is wrong on so many levels...smmfh

    You ? keep acting like the dudes knew she was 15...

    She had to lie about her age to even put an add on the site... smh.

    The story said the ad offered sex with a teen
  • damobb2deep
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    loch121 wrote: »
    nex gin wrote: »
    15 yr old prostitute..??...

    15 yrs old w/ 2 kids..??...

    toy gun..??...

    9 yrs for robbing what are essentially child molesters..??...


    This ? is wrong on so many levels...smmfh

    You ? keep acting like the dudes knew she was 15...

    She had to lie about her age to even put an add on the site... smh.

    The story said the ad offered sex with a teen

    Okay you grown at 18 or 19.. and im sure that they post ages with those ? adds
  • damobb2deep
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    Westie wrote: »
    Trillfate wrote: »
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    Some of Yall in here talkin bout "its Fair" meanwhile this Muppet looking Cac killed 4 ppl, paralyzed 1 and injured 8 others, THEN he skipped the country cuz he didn't like PROBATION and he still wont see no part of 9 years...

    Honestly idgaf... im not sitting here to "compare" cases... i believe dude should get just as much time if not more than her... now the fact that he didnt is ? up but im not the judge in either case.. you ? up teen or not it dont matter do the time they give you... simple..

    Just as much time for murder....okay...

    You can go to jail longer for robbery and selling drugs than murder in some cases.. it is what it is.
  • Westie
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    Westie wrote: »
    Trillfate wrote: »
    ethan-couch.jpg

    Some of Yall in here talkin bout "its Fair" meanwhile this Muppet looking Cac killed 4 ppl, paralyzed 1 and injured 8 others, THEN he skipped the country cuz he didn't like PROBATION and he still wont see no part of 9 years...

    Honestly idgaf... im not sitting here to "compare" cases... i believe dude should get just as much time if not more than her... now the fact that he didnt is ? up but im not the judge in either case.. you ? up teen or not it dont matter do the time they give you... simple..

    Just as much time for murder....okay...

    You can go to jail longer for robbery and selling drugs than murder in some cases.. it is what it is.

    And it's wrong. But the court says lock the ? up, you're fine with that. Ok.
  • desertrain10
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    jono wrote: »
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    She's 15. In 9 years she'll be 24, she has her whole life in front of her to make better decisions but she earned that 10 year sentence.

    Multiple armed robberies, prostitution, c'mon bruh. We not talking about truancy or some stupid juvenile crimes. Her and those dudes are predators, they lured people into those robberies.

    Getting pregnant is something that happens accidentally. Im sure she didn't do that on purpose but they planned those robberies. If she can plan a robbery she can go to prison for it.

    She'll be fine. Its the best thing for her in the long run. Take her out of that ? environment where she was robbing people, hooking and getting pregnant and put her somewhere where she can get help.

    she'll be fine?

    she'll be fine after 9 years in prison surrounded by older, hardened criminals, and away from her children?

    while there are the exceptions, american prisons have only been good for exploiting and housing society's undesirables

    there is not nearly enough funding there to actually rehabilitate people

    then whenever she gets out, there will be very few job opportunities for her, she cannot vote, will not qualify for certain government programs/grants, etc

    she certainly deserved to be punished for her actions, but the sentence does not fit the crime, and chances are it will not serve to rehabilitate the girl

    So we pretending this kid is a credible mother? She's ? and robbing people, she don't need kids her own life is ? up.

    Whether she straightens up or not is a personal choice.

    She has to want to do better and she can.

    She already fell in with criminals so that argument is moot.

    I guarantee that 17 year old and that 18 year old going to get more than 9 years. Nobody care about their families or their tears or am I supposed to think theres a huge difference between 17 and 15?

    In Michigan armed robbery comes with mandatory prison, she was involved in at least two of them. So you looking at three felonies 2 of which she could have gotten LIFE for and ? mad she got 9? She lucky as ? .

    first i have to say mandatory minimum sentencing laws are ? ....they serve no one but the private prison industry and corrupt politicians

    that said, she did fall in with the wrong crowd, but putting her around more criminals for the next decade is the answer? really? she has to want to change, but is putting her in prison for that long conductive to that change

    and regardless of whether you think she was a credible mother, separating her from her children for 9 years is not the best decision if they are then left in the care of the very ppl that failed her or the state, which is more than likely

    she's made her bed, but crazy how we as a country can recognize teenage naivety and impulsiveness when to comes to the follies of white children, but not blks ...this is just another example

    You know no matter if she goes to jail... stays out of jail... goes to boot camp she is going to be around criminals no matter what right..

    So what do you think is the best option for her kids if she is going to go to jail and the only options are ones you say "is not the best"

    all i know for sure is now a 15 yr old girl is going to be going to prison for at least half a decade...which i believe is harsh and serves no one

    what's best for her kids? putting their mother in a position to improve her lot in life and succeed...even if that means removing them from her care for a short time, but not 5,10 years

    and again she does deserve some sort of punishment

    Again it does not matter wtf is done its up to her if she wants to change.. and honestly 5 years in prison is very easy compared to what she could have gotten... which would you rather her do 5... or 20... she got off easy honestly..

    A slap on the wrist for ARMED ROBBERY AND PROSTITUTION serves no one as well.. if she got off easier than she has she honestly would be more likely to do it again (faster)..

    Yes, she has to want to change for the better ....but as I said before her being locked away in prison for 9 years is not conducive to that change

    And they are effectively taking away any chance she had at landing a decent job once she's out

    Why not find an alternative that not only serves as a punishment, but benefits her children, puts her in a better position to become a productive member of society, and cost the tax payers less

    And America has some of the toughest sentencing laws in the world, yet the recidivism rate is in the 60s, 70s...so ? with the tough on crime rhetoric ...

    The sentence is indefensible
  • damobb2deep
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    Westie wrote: »
    Westie wrote: »
    Trillfate wrote: »
    ethan-couch.jpg

    Some of Yall in here talkin bout "its Fair" meanwhile this Muppet looking Cac killed 4 ppl, paralyzed 1 and injured 8 others, THEN he skipped the country cuz he didn't like PROBATION and he still wont see no part of 9 years...

    Honestly idgaf... im not sitting here to "compare" cases... i believe dude should get just as much time if not more than her... now the fact that he didnt is ? up but im not the judge in either case.. you ? up teen or not it dont matter do the time they give you... simple..

    Just as much time for murder....okay...

    You can go to jail longer for robbery and selling drugs than murder in some cases.. it is what it is.

    And it's wrong. But the court says lock the ? up, you're fine with that. Ok.

    No im not okay with that... but im not going to be all "poor teenage chick" when she knowingly did some ? up ? ..