Buy or sell, Lupe is better then anyone in the WU Tang
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Name a Lupe song better than Triumph?
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Chalee_Boi wrote: »I don't think you heard Lu's mixtapes.
I've heard every single on of Lupes mixtapes and albums.
In my eyes Lupe is the best rapper out right now, alongside Nas.
But if i'm telling you the honest truth, Lupe still has a long way to go before you can start comparing him with Ghostface Killah etc.
Lupe doesn't have a better catalogue than GZA or Ghostface or even ? so any attempts to say that Lupe is better is futile. While Lupe may be the better rapper than them right now, he is not Greater than them because they have managed to build a legacy that Lupe is yet to match. I feel Lupe is better than Jay rigth now, as is Jay Elec, and some others yet none of these rappers could boast of a catalogue which icnludes Reasonable Doubt, Black Album, Blueprint and co.
You see what i'm getting at here? -
Meet The Sniper wrote: »Lol @ most of the Wu rebuttals in this thread being
"no"
"Lupe too technical" (aka too good)
GZA and Deck are some of the most technical rappers to ever touch the mic. -
Let's post song for song....
You really want to post song to song against a rapper like Ghostface who has dropped albums like Supreme Clientele, Ironman, Fishscale, and had numerous verses on albums like OB4CL etc you gotta be joking lol, Lupe doesn't ahev a catalogue has deep as the likes of Ghost. -
Lupe doesn't have a better catalogue than GZA or Ghostface or even ? so any attempts to say that Lupe is better is futile. While Lupe may be the better rapper than them right now, he is not Greater than them because they have managed to build a legacy that Lupe is yet to match. I feel Lupe is better than Jay rigth now, as is Jay Elec, and some others yet none of these rappers could boast of a catalogue which icnludes Reasonable Doubt, Black Album, Blueprint and co.
I understand what u sayin, but this thread is specifically about who is the better rapper, as in RAP SKILLS...
yea Lupe may not be considered a greater artist, he is the BETTER RAPPER...to be honest its not even close...with any of them
Some of these ? need to realize the distinction -
[Ol ? Bastard]
What y'all thought y'all wasn't gon' see me?
I'm the Osirus of this ?
Wu-Tang is here forever, ?
It's like this ninety-seven
Aight my ? and my niggarettes
Let's do it like this
I'ma rub your ass in the moonshine
Let's take it back to seventy-nine
[Inspectah Deck]
I bomb atomically, Socrates' philosophies
and hypothesis can't define how I be droppin these
mockeries, lyrically perform armed robbery
Flee with the lottery, possibly they spotted me
Battle-scarred shogun, explosion when my pen hits
tremendous, ultra-violet shine blind forensics
I inspect you, through the future see millenium
Killa B's sold fifty gold sixty platinum
Shacklin the masses with drastic rap tactics
Graphic displays melt the steel like blacksmiths
Black Wu jackets queen B's ease the guns in
Rumble with patrolmen, tear gas laced the function
Heads by the score take flight incite a war
Chicks hit the floor, diehard fans demand more
Behold the bold soldier, control the globe slowly
Proceeds to blow swingin swords like Shinobi
Stomp grounds and pound footprints in solid rock
Wu got it locked, performin live on your hottest block
[Method Man]
As the world turns, I spread like germs
Bless the globe with the pestilence, the hard-headed never learn
It's my testament to those burned
Play my position in the game of life, standin firm
on foreign land, jump the gun out the fryin pan, into the fire
Transform into the Ghostrider, a six-pack
and +A Streetcar Named Desire+, who got my back?
In the line of fire holdin back, what?
My peoples if you with me where the ? you at?
? is strapped, and they tryin to twist my beer cap
It's court adjourned, for the bad seed from bad sperm
Herb got my wig fried like a bad perm, what the blood
clot, we smoke ? , and blow spots
You wanna think twice, I think not
The Iron Lung ain't got ta tell you where it's coming from
Guns of Navarone, tearing up your battle zone
Rip through your slums
[Cappadonna]
I twist darts from the heart, tried and true
Loop my voice on the LP, martini on the slang rocks
Certified chatterbox, vocabulary 'Donna talkin
Tell your story walkin
Take cover kid, what? Run for your brother, kid
Run for your team, and your six camp rhyme groupies
So I can squeeze with the advantage, and get wasted
My deadly notes reigns supreme
Your fort is basic compared to mine
Domino effect, arts and crafts
Paragraphs contain cyanide
Take a free ride on my dart, I got the fashion
catalogues for all y'all to all praise to the Gods
[Ol ? Bastard]
The saga continues
Wu-Tang, Wu-Tang
[U-? ]
Olympic torch flaming, we burn so sweet
The thrill of victory, the agony, defeat
We crush slow, flamin deluxe slow
For, judgment day cometh, conquer, it's war
Allow us to escape, hell glow spinning bomb
Pocket full of shells out the sky, Golden Arms
Tune spit the ? Mortal Kombat sound
The fateful step make, the blood stain the ground
A jungle junkie, vigilante tantrum
A death kiss, catwalk, squeeze another anthem
Hold it for ransom, tranquilized with anesthetics
My orchestra, graceful, music ballerinas
My music Sicily, rich California smell
An axekiller adventure, paint a picture well
I sing a song from Sing-Sing, sippin on ginseng
Righteous wax chaperone, rotating ring king
[RZA]
Watch for the wooden soldiers, C-Cypher-Punks couldn't hold us
A thousand men rushin in, not one ? was sober
Perpendicular to the square, we stamp gold like Fleer
Escape from your Dragon's Lair, in particular
My beats travel like a vortex, through your spine
to the top of your cerebrum cortex
Make you feel like you bust a nut from raw sex
Enter through your right ventricle clog up your bloodstream
now terminal, like Grand Central Station
Program fat baselines, on Novation
Getting ? like a ? , I'm duckin five-year probation
[GZA]
War of the masses, the outcome, disastrous
Many of the victim family save they ashes
A million names on walls engraved in plaques
Those who went back, received penalties for the axe
Another heart is torn as close ones mourn
Those who stray, ? get slayed on the song
[Masta Killa]
The track renders helpless and suffers from multiple stab wounds
and leaks sounds that's heard
ninety-three million miles away from came one
to represent the Nation, this is a gathering
of the masses that come to pay respects to the Wu-Tang Clan
As we engage in battle, the crowd now screams in rage
The high chief Jamel-I-Reef take the stage
Light is provided through sparks of energy
from the mind that travels in rhyme form
Givin sight to the blind
The dumb are mostly intrigued by the drum
Death only one can save self from
This relentless attack of the track spares none
[Ghostface Killah]
Yo! Yo! Yo, ? that, look at all these crab ? laid back
Lampin like them gray and black Puma's on my man's rack
Codeine was forced in your drink
You had a Navy Green salamander fiend, ? never heard you scream
You two-faces, ? of the slum, I got your whole body numb
Blowin like Shalamar in eighty-one
Sound convincin, thousand dollar court by convention
Hands, like Sonny Liston, get fly permission
Hold the ? up, I'll unfasten your wig, bad luck
I humiliate, separate the English from the Dutch
it's me, black nobled you Ali
Came in threes we like the Genovese, is that so?
Caesar needs the greens, it's Earth
Ninety-three million miles from the first
Rough turbulence, the waveburst, split the megahertz
[Raekwon]
Aiyyo that's amazing, gun in your mouth talk, verbal foul hawk
Connect thoughts to make my manchild walk
Swift notarizer, Wu-Tang, all up in the high-riser
New York Yank' visor world tranquilizer
Just a dosage, delegate my Clan with explosives
While, my pen blow lines ferocious
Mediterranean, see y'all, the number one draft pick
Tear down the beat ? , then delegate the ? to see ?
The swift chancellor, flex, the white-gold tarantula
Track truck diesel, play the weed ? , substantiala
Max mostly, undivided, then slide in, sickenin
Guaranteed, made em jump like Rod Strickland -
i learned its better not to argue wit these young herby ? from this generation they skinny jeans not lettin enough oxygen get to they head...
only on the ic is lupe ever compared to legends who put in work, steve urkel gotta put in another 10 yrs before comparisons can be made.. -
I understand what u sayin, but this thread is specifically about who is the better rapper, as in RAP SKILLS...
yea Lupe may not be considered a greater artist, he is the BETTER RAPPER...to be honest its not even close...with any of them
Some of these ? need to realize the distinction
If thats what the thread is about then ok, although GZA would give him a run for his money.
However Canibus is a more skilled rapper than Nas, Jay and co, yet Nas and jay are the BETTER rappers.
Rapping is not just all about multis and entrdres, its more than that Lupe may be more skilled than Ghostface but Ghostface is a better storyteller.
At the end of the day all this talk about who is the better rapper becomes redundant and unnecessary since what we used to quantify 'better' is catalogues and body of work, Lupe doesn't have a catalogue as good as Ghosts so Ghost is the overall better rapper, because he has proven it time and time again with each album dropped. -
i learned its better not to argue wit these young herby ? from this generation they skinny jeans not lettin enough oxygen get to they head...
only on the ic is lupe ever compared to legends who put in work, steve urkel gotta put in another 10 yrs before comparisons can be made..
This whole post is Richard Pryor-esq... -
Chalee_Boi wrote: »
Lyrics:
[Lupe: talking]
You know I had to do it, man. It wouldn'ta been right if I didn't. You seen it? You seen the show last night on TV? You seen ? 's rims man? You seen the new Jordans man? You see her ass yo? Yeah, yeah, that's crazy.
[Singing:]
Seein' with my ghetto eyes
I walkeded with my ghetto feet
I talkeded with my ghetto speech
I'm copasetic, I won't let it bring me down
Bring me down...
I say it's enstilled
As I peep from beneath the titled brim of my pinwheel
Steady mobbin', heavy problems
Genocide resynthesize to violence, makes it hard to sympathize
Harden, individuals whose feelings is miniscule
Soon become criminals if you dark-skinned
And you was raised in a project apartment
Public Aid made it that your father couldn't stay
He had to part then, left with only a mother
The family structure suffers
He will soon cling to hustlers, as his guardians
He still a boy, needs to fill a void, marchin'
Up the block up to no good, sellin' in the wrong hood
He was taken down by a marksmen
At his wake, 8th Grade Graduation picture
Last words: Don't let the habitation get ya
Pardoned, Lord have mercy on the fallen
Amen, feel like I'm hardened
Got the harbinger for the coming of the carpenter
Til then, I got some big fish to fry like Marlins
Part ? , steady mobbin'
[Chorus:]
I've got some questions to ask, and I'm waitin' on some answers
Like, Why do the good die young? Why ain't there no cure for cancer?
Won't let the streets dicatate my glory
Cuz it's something out there for me
But I'ma flee my territory
So I won't end up, just a ghetto story
Just a ghetto story, just a ghetto story
Just a ghetto story, just a ghetto story
And I try to see past it
Through the down-roll window on the driver side of my Caprice Classic
Steady mobbin', corner store traffic
i.e. dope fiends, hookers and teens with alcohol IVs
I see, plastic, cups is a nickel, 50 cent for Dutch Masters
My big brother's Pelle Pel' lingers of a fargone weed smoke
Lookin' for greener pastures, pasturized 2% for $2.19
You can get 2 quarts, there's also a sale on Newports
A seperate line for Lotto, bumpy face, add a model
Huggin' a bottle, salt and sour Jays, and blueberry Hugs
Shorties consider a meal, been my feel for it
Sweatin' for a pair of Air Jordans they would steal for
And a gold chain 4 fiends would knife, wild and ? yours
There's nothing too promising on our billboards
Drink Tanqueray, eat KFC, come abort your child
Buy Nikes, which makes it highly unlikely that we gon' fight, G
Steady mobbin'
And I'm still on
As I stroll down the same street so many like me once before, were killed on
Steady mobbin', thinkin' bout the Black Panthers
And the babies that were born in the late '80s
That now have babies that lack Pampers
No Kwaanzas and they lack Santas
And the father who thinks shoe-shopping is the answer
Skipped out on parenthood classes so she don't know how to handle her
And never learned from her grandmother
One day got hot, couldn't take it, dropped her in a vacant lot
Album of Life, now condensed into a sampler
See the shapes these little girls is gettin'?
Somethin' say the steroids in the chicken is the cause of the thickening in the young women
Livid, see some shorties playin' Cops & Robbers, livin'
Bittersweet thoughts is what I had for them
I can picture colder feelin' Police chasin' after them
Catchin' up to, friskin' and askin' them
Where the packs at? Who yo' cheif is? Where the straps at?
Am I thinking too hard? Or perhaps that's reality
In a project mentality, but through it all
I hope we learn more than how to be ? and how to move a ball
Steady mobbin'
Ironman
Supreme Clientele
Bulletproof Wallets
The Pretty Toney Album
Fishscale
More Fish
The Big Doe Rehab -
I've heard every single on of Lupes mixtapes and albums.
In my eyes Lupe is the best rapper out right now, alongside Nas.
But if i'm telling you the honest truth, Lupe still has a long way to go before you can start comparing him with Ghostface Killah etc.
Lupe doesn't have a better catalogue than GZA or Ghostface or even ? so any attempts to say that Lupe is better is futile. While Lupe may be the better rapper than them right now, he is not Greater than them because they have managed to build a legacy that Lupe is yet to match. I feel Lupe is better than Jay rigth now, as is Jay Elec, and some others yet none of these rappers could boast of a catalogue which icnludes Reasonable Doubt, Black Album, Blueprint and co.
You see what i'm getting at here?
The truth.
These idiots cant be taken seriously. -
speakin lyrically he aint ? wit gza
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Lupe's flow beyond nice. Lupe>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Method in every aspect except hooks and charisma
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Lupe>>>>>>>>anybody in Wu tang Clan (? cool tho)
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Chalee_Boi wrote: »OLD HEADS...
Feels like I'm in a retirement home.
Lupe's Catalog >> ? 's
Ghostface is the only one yall can make an argument for.
? all this Legacy ? .
If you had Lupe and ? on the street corner trading verses...Lu will be the winner...and deep down...you Metamucil ass muthafuckas know this.
If you had Pacquiao and Sugar Ray Leonard on the street corner trading blows...Pacquiao will be the winner...and deep down...you lil b impersonating ? know this. -
Dam lol...
I don't buy the topic I posted but I just begged to ask the question.
But what I'm learning from this thread and the ic is...
That I could be better then u in EVERY aspect or a majority of aspects of being an emcee but if you have the better catoluge=better
like I'll get you in 18/19 categories, but you have a Bette catolgue so>>>>>
Dre>>>>>>>Lupe
I mean chronic>>>>>> -
Mvpbrodie93 wrote: »Dam lol...
I don't buy the topic I posted but I just begged to ask the question.
But what I'm learning from this thread and the ic is...
That I could be better then u in EVERY aspect or a majority of aspects of being an emcee but if you have the better catoluge=better
like I'll get you in 18/19 categories, but you have a Bette catolgue so>>>>>
Dre>>>>>>>Lupe
I mean chronic>>>>>>
I also learned that being technical with the rhymes makes you better. So that means canibus>>Lupe -
I also learned that being technical with the rhymes makes you better. So that means canibus>>Lupe
Lol, I've had ? Come to me and tell me nas is the GOAT because
Illmatic>>>>>>your favorite rappers best album.(and that's true)
And that's it end of discussion -
Mvpbrodie93 wrote: »Lol, I've had ? Come to me and tell me nas is the GOAT because
Illmatic>>>>>>your favorite rappers best album.(and that's true)
And that's it end of discussion
If we judging a rapper overall based on skills, and music so yeah catalog counts for something. -
Lupe has the totally package just because the critics don't mentioned him, or hasn't had platinum plaques doesn't mean anything to me, or had so impact doesn't mean anything. Lupe is nice overall.
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If we judging a rapper overall based on skills, and music so yeah catalog counts for something.
It counts, yes but catoluge=better doesn't work
it's part of the argument -
Mvpbrodie93 wrote: »Dam lol...
I don't buy the topic I posted but I just begged to ask the question.
But what I'm learning from this thread and the ic is...
That I could be better then u in EVERY aspect or a majority of aspects of being an emcee but if you have the better catoluge=better
like I'll get you in 18/19 categories, but you have a Bette catolgue so>>>>>
Dre>>>>>>>Lupe
I mean chronic>>>>>>
I know man these ? are tripping Canibus the GOAT. -
Obfcl>>>>>>>jay z's doscography= raekwon>>>jay z
liquid swordz>>>>>>>>>jay z discography=gza>>>>jay z -
Mvpbrodie93 wrote: »It counts, yes but catoluge=better doesn't work
it's part of the argument
If we judging two rappers as a whole then yeah albums count, if we're talking skill for skill then no catalog wont mean much. -
Mvpbrodie93 wrote: »Obfcl>>>>>>>jay z's doscography= raekwon>>>jay z
liquid swordz>>>>>>>>>jay z discography=gza>>>>jay z
I understand what you're trying to do but ironically enough both are debatable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xj8vPw3UbNw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm0DUzGlQ-w
