Buy or sell, Lupe is better then anyone in the WU Tang
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I understand what you're trying to do but ironically enough both are debatable.
Please stop lol
Jay z>>>>>wu tang... -
Chalee_Boi wrote: »Catalog includes mixtapes.
Lupe's mixtape ? >>> album ? .
Mixtapes dont count, we're talking albums. -
If we judging two rappers as a whole then yeah albums count, if we're talking skill for skill then no catalog wont mean much.
Yes it counts but it's ONE aspect of the "whole"
I'll bring back the catergories chart
Catologue-
Originality-
Concepts-
Versatility-
Vocabulary-
Substance-
Flow-
Freestyle-
Vocal Presence-
Live Performance-
Poetic Value-
Industry Impact-
Social Impact-
Longevity-
Lyrics-
Battle Skills-
Songwriting -
if I have you beat, out of all these accept catologue, am I better? -
Mvpbrodie93 wrote: »Obfcl>>>>>>>jay z's doscography= raekwon>>>jay z
liquid swordz>>>>>>>>>jay z discography=gza>>>>jay z
This makes no sense because, Black Album, RD, American Gangster, Blueprint, vol 1 put Jay ahead of both Raekwon and GZA in terms of catalogue -
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Mvpbrodie93 wrote: »Please stop lol
Jay z>>>>>wu tang...
Jay Z is not better than the whole freaking group.
What makes Jay Z one of the greats is that he has had a great career, he is a great rapper, dropped a few great albums, sold records and is an icon in the game. Based on those things Jay is >>Rae and Gza, but as far as rappers the ? IS debatable. Taking all those albums and everything out the picture. -
Mvpbrodie93 wrote: »Yes it counts but it's ONE aspect of the "whole"
I'll bring back the catergories chart
Catologue-
Originality-
Concepts-
Versatility-
Vocabulary-
Substance-
Flow-
Freestyle-
Vocal Presence-
Live Performance-
Poetic Value-
Industry Impact-
Social Impact-
Longevity-
Lyrics-
Battle Skills-
Songwriting -
if I have you beat, out of all these accept catologue, am I better?
Yeah cause catatlogue showcases
Songwriting, lyrics, concepts, originality, vocabulary, versatility, longevity, flow, and in some rappers cases Battle Skills.
you need to structure your arguments better, industry impact and social impact don't mean ? either. -
This makes no sense because, Black Album, RD, American Gangster, Blueprint, vol 1 put Jay ahead of both Raekwon and GZA in terms of catalogue
1. I was being sarcastic
2. I was reffering to the both the catolugue=better, and the best vs best= better
in this case i was using best versus best. And their best album is better them jay z best album. And to ALOT of the reason that EQUALS better no matter what. And I have a problem with that...... -
Jay Z is not better than the whole freaking group.
What makes Jay Z one of the greats is that he has had a great career, he is a great rapper, dropped a few great albums, sold records and is an icon in the game. Based on those things Jay is >>Rae and Gza, but as far as rappers the ? IS debatable. Taking all those albums and everything out the picture.
See, I knew you understood that what's considered a great rapper is subjective aka debatable. Sometimes I think you get pigheaded, but you clearly have the understanding... -
Chalee_Boi wrote: »Why mixtapes don't count? It's music.
that's like counting practice drills in sports as apart of a players stats. -
Yeah cause catatlogue showcases
Songwriting, lyrics, concepts, originality, vocabulary, versatility, longevity, flow, and in some rappers cases Battle Skills.
you need to structure your arguments better, industry impact and social impact don't mean ? either.
Lupe has all of that except battle skills. -
Mvpbrodie93 wrote: »1. I was being sarcastic
2. I was reffering to the both the catolugue=better, and the best vs best= better
in this case i was using best versus best. And their best album is better them jay z best album. And to ALOT of the reason that EQUALS better no matter what. And I have a problem with that......
I may feel that Souls Of Mischeif album 93 till infinity is better than every Outkast album yet that doesn't mean Souls Of Mischief have a better catalogue than Outkast, i'm talking about catalogue as an whole not the odd album. -
Jay Z is not better than the whole freaking group.
What makes Jay Z one of the greats is that he has had a great career, he is a great rapper, dropped a few great albums, sold records and is an icon in the game. Based on those things Jay is >>Rae and Gza, but as far as rappers the ? IS debatable. Taking all those albums and everything out the picture.
on a greatest rappers of all time list, Jay Z is higher them all of them -
I may feel that Souls Of Mischeif album 93 till infinity is better than every Outkast album yet that doesn't mean Souls Of Mischief have a better catalogue than Outkast, i'm talking about catalogue as an whole not the odd album.
So final answer here, Better catolgue=better? -
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Mvpbrodie93 wrote: »So final answer here, Better catolgue=better?
of course cause a catalogue showcases all the abilities a rapper needs to stake his claim as GOAT. -
of course cause a catalogue showcases all the abilities a rapper needs to stake his claim as GOAT.
Alright cool I respect your opinion.
Dre>>>>>lupe. He's got a better catologue -
i would rather take masta killas 2 albums than lupes 2 albums
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Mvpbrodie93 wrote: »Alright cool I respect your opinion.
Dre>>>>>lupe. He's got a better catologue
Dre has a ghostwriter his out of the discussion. -
Lupe is good, but Wu-Tang is the best!
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Buy, only one messing with him is Gza and even he isn't too close. Lupe =top 5 rapper imo.
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Bump............
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Ghostface>>>>>>>>>>>lupe
Ghostface>>>>>>>>Jay Z -
hahaha is this a serious thread. if not, then hell yeah, lupe the goat!
if it is, then hell no. capadona>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>lupe. and hes the worst in wu.
