Symbolism..Dissecting The Meaning Of 2 Pac's Don "Killuminati" Album

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  • Focal Point
    Focal Point Members Posts: 16,307 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2010
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    afromo wrote: »
    Pac talked bout that and ethered that whole idea fast forward to 5:25

    exactly, ? stay miscontruing(sp) what this ? was talking about... they take something he said and make it fit their personal thoughts and agenda
  • Authentic100
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    edited March 2011
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    ima bump this great thread since the current ones suck
  • dwade206
    dwade206 Members Posts: 11,558 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 2011
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    ...................
  • Authentic100
    Authentic100 Members Posts: 1,320 ✭✭✭
    edited March 2011
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    Hip Hop is so ? up now if a new young rapper tried to come into the game with a conscious message now i doubt he would sell or even go platinum or have much influence over millions like pac did
  • esco soprano
    esco soprano Members Posts: 2,829 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 2011
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    Very interesting thread....I love tbs ? album though from Day 1.
  • MICHAEL-V.I.
    MICHAEL-V.I. Members Posts: 1,898 ✭✭
    edited March 2011
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    people hear the music but miss what pac was truly saying on this record

    Don ? -Illuminati..? the Beast 666

    The 7 day Theory=the theory spoken of in the Bible(Genesis) Where ? made the world in 7 days and rested on the last day

    "Blasphemy"
    (feat. Prince Ital)

    [music from To Live & Die in L.A. fades]

    [This Week in Bible Prophecy]
    ? has a plan -- and the bible unfolds that wonderful plan
    through the message of prophecy
    ? sent Jesus into this world to be our saviour
    And that Christ is returning, someday soon
    to unfold the wonderful plan of eternity, for my life and your life
    As long as we're cooperating with ?
    by accepting Jesus Christ as our personal Lord and saviour
    And as the Lord does return in the coming seven days
    We'll see you next time here on This Week in Bible Prophecy

    [Tupac]
    Tupac don't start that blasphemy in here!
    Makaveli, the new breed -- and I remember what my pops told me
    The new word, follow me -- remember what my pops told me

    My family tree, consists of drug dealers, thugs and killers
    Strugglin, known to hustle screamin ? they feelings
    I got advice from my father, all he told me was this
    ? , get off your ass if you plan to be rich
    There's ten rules to the game, but I'll share with you two
    Know, ? gon' hate you for whatever you do
    Now rule one -- get your cash on, M.O.B.
    That's Money Over ? , cause they breed envy
    Now rule two is a hard one, watch for phonies
    Keep yo', enemies close ? , watch yo' homies
    It seemed a little unimportant, when he told me I smiled
    Picture jewels being handed, to an innocent child
    I never knew in my lifetime I'd live by these rules
    Initiated as an outlaw, studying rules
    Now papa ain't around, so I gotta recall
    or come to grips with bein on my enemy's wall (rest in peace)
    Promised if I have a seed, I'ma guide him right
    Dear Lord don't let me die tonite
    I got words for my comrades, listen and learn
    Ain't nuttin free, give back what you earn, no doubt
    Gettin higher than a ? , blessed and pleased
    This Thug Life'll be the death of me, c'mon, yeah

    And I remember what my papa told me
    Remember what my papa told me, blasphemy

    [Chorus: Prince Ital]

    Love for dem dat steal in the name of da Lord
    Dem a tell nuff lie but holdin my bird in a cloud
    Usin de name of de Lord in vein
    While de people in de ghetto, feel nuff pain

    [Tupac]
    We probably in Hell already, our dumb ? not knowin
    Everybody kissin ass to go to heaven ain't goin
    Put my soul on it, I'm fightin devil ? daily
    Plus the media be crucifying brothers severly
    Tell me I ain't ? 's son, ? mom a ?
    We got addicted had to leave the burbs, back in the ghetto
    doin wild ? , lookin at the sun don't pay
    Criminal mind all the time, wait for Judgment Day
    They say Moses split the Red Sea
    I split the blunt and rolled the fat one, I'm deadly -- Babylon beware
    Comin from the Pharoahe's kids, retaliation
    Makin legends off the ? we did, still bullshittin
    ? in Jerusalem, waitin for signs
    ? promised, she's just takin her time, haha
    Living by the Nile while the water flows
    I'm contemplating plots wondering which door to go
    Brothas getting shot, comin back resurrected
    It's just that raw ? , ? check it (that raw ? )


    And I remember what my papa told me
    Remember what my papa told me, blasphemy

    [Chorus]

    [Tupac]
    The preacher want me buried why? Cause I know he a liar
    Have you ever seen a crackhead, that's eternal fire
    Why you got these kids minds, thinkin that they evil
    while the preacher bein richer you say honor ? 's people
    Should we cry, when the Pope die, my request
    We should cry if they cried when we buried Malcolm X
    Mama tell me am I wrong, is ? just another cop
    waitin to beat my ass if I don't go pop?
    Memories of a past time, givin up cash
    to the leaders, knowin damn well, it ain't gonna feed us
    In my brain how can you explain, time in D.C.
    It's hard enough to live now, in these times of greed
    They say Jesus is a kind man, well he should understand
    times in this crime man, my Thug nation
    Do whatchu gotta do but know you gotta change
    Try to find a way to make it out the game
    I live decent, hope ? can see my heart is pure
    Is heaven just another door? I leave this here
    I live decent, hope ? see my heart is pure
    Is heaven just another door? And my people say

    [Chorus 4X]

    Our father, who art in heaven
    Hallow be thy name
    Thy kingdom come, thy will be done
    In earth, as it is in heaven
    Give us this day, our daily bread
    As we give up our debts
    As we forgive our debt-ors
    Lead us not into temptation
    but deliver us, unevil
    For ? , is the kingdom, and the power
    and the glory forever, and ever, and ever

    He was Destroying the concept of false relegion

    He was also attacking the illuminati based rap game

    He exposed alot key players on Against All Odds..Its not a coincidence that the same people he called out blew up after his death..Jay-z,nas,Mobb deep,Puffy

    Tupac Don't Start That Blasphemy ? up in here

    There is No Illuminati
  • KidLife10200
    KidLife10200 Members Posts: 1,075
    edited March 2011
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    lol I swear only black people believe this ? .

    You Illuminati clowns are embarrassing as ? .
  • Supreme_Mind999
    Supreme_Mind999 Members Posts: 5,185 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 2011
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    Yo Jamaica...Wassup with moving my classic thread to the hall of fame?....11,000 + views
  • Mumo X
    Mumo X Banned Users Posts: 4,521 ✭✭
    edited April 2011
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    Yo Jamaica...Wassup with moving my classic thread to the hall of fame?....11,000 + views

    classic thread. They dont make threads like thz anymore
  • Supreme_Mind999
    Supreme_Mind999 Members Posts: 5,185 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 2011
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    Mumo X wrote: »
    classic thread. They dont make threads like thz anymore

    ? On the Ic ain't feeling me lol....my threads be going plat..Me,You,Hrap and a few others are the only cats raising the bar on thought provoking ?
  • icame4wo
    icame4wo Members Posts: 1,597 ✭✭
    edited April 2011
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    the thread starter is a false prophet and don't know what he talking bout, the fact that he asking or props of this thread amazes me.
  • destro1
    destro1 Members Posts: 622 ✭✭
    edited April 2011
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    and despite all that 2Pac became even more popular and wealthy from the "character assassinations". he sold more albums after all the media attention. his first 3 albums didn't break the top 20 on billboard. after all the controversy his next three albums debuted at number 1 on billboard. let's be real. 2Pac was not a major force in the entertainment business until after the negative press from the arrests. he became a superstar BECAUSE of the negative attention. why would the illuminati need to assassinate the character of someone who was still somewhat of a fringe artist with a relatively small audience? if anything the "character assassinations" elevated him to a level he probably never would have reached.

    I'll be honest what you say is not quite true, cause i remember watching 2PAC's Holla if you hear me , when the video for that first dropped, and this was with me coming from England, without the aid of internet etc etc , just basically catching his new videos when they came out on Yo mtv raps etc...I bought his first album and know a lot of people like him then. History is twisted like he only became popular AFTER he went to jail...he was BIG from when Brenda's got a baby came out.
  • Supreme_Mind999
    Supreme_Mind999 Members Posts: 5,185 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 2011
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    icame4wo wrote: »
    the thread starter is a false prophet and don't know what he talking bout, the fact that he asking or props of this thread amazes me.

    Ok so prove everything I say as being wrong....Aight then put ya two cents in the bubblegum machine and shut da ? up..Nowhere did i say I was a prophet..Its okay for a ? to make threads about nicki minjai's plastic ass but I can't drop one with thought provoking observations?

    Find the nearest bridge and jump off
  • Supreme_Mind999
    Supreme_Mind999 Members Posts: 5,185 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 2011
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    Hip Hop is so ? up now if a new young rapper tried to come into the game with a conscious message now i doubt he would sell or even go platinum or have much influence over millions like pac did

    Nope Conscious messages are alive in other forms..hip hop is dead the zombies control it now
  • Fazeem_Blackall
    Fazeem_Blackall Members Posts: 4,216 ✭✭
    edited April 2011
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    Yo Jamaica...Wassup with moving my classic thread to the hall of fame?....11,000 + views
    Will not happen you are giving props to Pac and not Biggie...
  • DanknDrank
    DanknDrank Members Posts: 3,269 ✭✭✭✭
    edited April 2011
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    definitely the realest ? ever said on wax, and some of the realest ? ever spoken by man
  • KLICHE
    KLICHE Members Posts: 5,061 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 2011
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    Great thread. In all seriousness though, threads need to have all the "? " innuendo etc deleted.

    Time for people to quit that ? in comments from whoever.

    ? is so overused I'm starting to think that is ALL some people know. ? is sad.

    Great thread once again!
  • Disciplined InSight
    Disciplined InSight Members Posts: 13,478 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 2011
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    Damn..how did I miss this?

    I read through the whole thread and it was very insightful..The ones spitting the negative or ? comments are the ones are sleeping Uncle Toms, dis-info agents, ? -erotics and weirdos.

    Much respect Supreme.
  • KLICHE
    KLICHE Members Posts: 5,061 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 2011
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    I was browsing 'tube' and came up with this vid on my recommended.. and ironically covers this topic nicely.. the guy has numerous vids on rap called "Rap Revelations" and many others, BUT this paticluar series revolves around Illuminati and Pac's alleged involvement/non-involvement... Not a view I thought I would hear him say.. goes against what we have discussed here.
  • DanknDrank
    DanknDrank Members Posts: 3,269 ✭✭✭✭
    edited April 2011
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    KLICHE wrote: »
    I was browsing 'tube' and came up with this vid on my recommended.. and ironically covers this topic nicely.. the guy has numerous vids on rap called "Rap Revelations" and many others, BUT this paticluar series revolves around Illuminati and Pac's alleged involvement/non-involvement... Not a view I thought I would hear him say.. goes against what we have discussed here.

    smh if u believe this pile of ?
  • icame4wo
    icame4wo Members Posts: 1,597 ✭✭
    edited April 2011
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    KLICHE wrote: »
    I was browsing 'tube' and came up with this vid on my recommended.. and ironically covers this topic nicely.. the guy has numerous vids on rap called "Rap Revelations" and many others, BUT this paticluar series revolves around Illuminati and Pac's alleged involvement/non-involvement... Not a view I thought I would hear him say.. goes against what we have discussed here.
    Good video going at the Jesuit Order and Pac. JFK knew what he was talking about because he was taught by the Jesuits. What Pac was told in jail about the Pope and all that is true. It's funny to see him dismiss it yet get at the big church's in NY. One of the biggest if not the biggest is the cathedral of st. patrick.
    N666.gif

    Looks like it takes up a entire city block.
    p259891-New_York_NY-Saint_Patricks_Cathedral.jpg

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    Another is the Cathedral of st. john the divine that's huge.

    I almost forgot. Tupac was named after a Jesuit. Who knows the connection between the Jesuits and the founder of the Illuminati?
  • icame4wo
    icame4wo Members Posts: 1,597 ✭✭
    edited April 2011
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    Now why isn't supreme_mind666 making the kinds of connections I made?
    It is a common misconception that Machiavelli faked his own death. There is no historical evidence that he did.
    http://www.lucidcafe.com/library/96may/machiavelli.html
    Makaveli Was A Con Artist Who Faked His Death
    No matter which one you are talking about it's a lie.
  • smittysmith
    smittysmith Members Posts: 8,202 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 2011
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    icame4wo wrote: »
    Good video going at the Jesuit Order and Pac. JFK knew what he was talking about because he was taught by the Jesuits. What Pac was told in jail about the Pope and all that is true. It's funny to see him dismiss it yet get at the big church's in NY. One of the biggest if not the biggest is the cathedral of st. patrick.
    N666.gif

    Looks like it takes up a entire city block.
    p259891-New_York_NY-Saint_Patricks_Cathedral.jpg

    464127609_5bdcef6d1b.jpg

    Another is the Cathedral of st. john the divine that's huge.

    I almost forgot. Tupac was named after a Jesuit. Who knows the connection between the Jesuits and the founder of the Illuminati?

    Your referring to the "Black" Pope. Ignatus of Loyola started the Jesuit order (Satanist and former militarian). The group was later ordained as preists by Pope Paul III. So, behind all the curtains, the Jesuit order is no more than a full military group that carries out different acts. Sinking of the Titanic, assassination that started WWI, WWII, 9/11 are all acts that took place under their guidance.
  • icame4wo
    icame4wo Members Posts: 1,597 ✭✭
    edited April 2011
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    Your referring to the "Black" Pope. Ignatus of Loyola started the Jesuit order (Satanist and former militarian). The group was later ordained as preists by Pope Paul III. So, behind all the curtains, the Jesuit order is no more than a full military group that carries out different acts. Sinking of the Titanic, assassination that started WWI, WWII, 9/11 are all acts that took place under their guidance.
    All roads lead to rome which is the home of the entire mystery babylon system.
  • gee757
    gee757 Members Posts: 26,374
    edited April 2011
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    Will not happen you are giving props to Pac and not Biggie...

    lollllllllllllllllll