Are there any emcees that are top 20 artist of all time?

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  • soul rattler
    soul rattler Members Posts: 18,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2012
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    Yeah, and Outkast/Andre 3000. Cube, as legendary as he is to the culture, doesn't compare to ALOT of rappers post 95 when it comes to skill. Pac crafted his own lane that wasn't forced like Cube's was (RAPPING WISE, NOT CONTENT).

    Nas and Common are in between Cube and Pac. Maybe it's the illusion of death, but right now I don't see it.

    And YES 2 album Lauryn Hill. Why do people act like her Unplugged album doesn't exist? It went over alot of people heads.
  • CeLLaR-DooR
    CeLLaR-DooR Members Posts: 18,880 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Yeah CS...Her Unplugged album was so natural...The lil mistakes she made actually made the album more cohesive...If that makes any sense...Let's you know its really her...Mystery of Iniquity is her magnum opus for real...

    Wish she'd released just ONE more album...

    her verse on the Score Outro was ? ' class

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxea77zU2ik

    Yeah I think Outkast have a shot...4 dope and different soundin' albums...then the double...
  • semi-auto-mato
    semi-auto-mato Members Posts: 2,833 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • _Menace_
    _Menace_ Members, Writer Posts: 26,613 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @_menace_ lol at frank ? Sinatra...no way dude.

    No way on Aaliyah either fam

    Bruce Springsteen no way.

    James brown is dope but no way.

    No way on Madonna

    No way on rick James.

    All talented! But top 20 no. The rest of your list is solid add billy joel, Elton john, em, Nas, jay, outkast, incubus, led Zeppelin, Curtis mayfield and paramore. You got a great list.

    You sound sick

    FRANK SINATRA IS THE GOAT
    He's top 20 for sure
    And Madonna is Madonna she is considered the best female artist of all time

    Rick James is underrated and doesn't be the credit he deserves
  • Rhymesfinest
    Rhymesfinest Members Posts: 1,892 ✭✭
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    Eminem, 2pac, DJ Quik, Dr Dre, Common
  • CeLLaR-DooR
    CeLLaR-DooR Members Posts: 18,880 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Eminem, 2pac, DJ Quik, Dr Dre, Common

    lol
  • CeLLaR-DooR
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  • CeLLaR-DooR
    CeLLaR-DooR Members Posts: 18,880 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Let's not forget Bob Dylan
  • Focal Point
    Focal Point Members Posts: 16,307 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Music ain't about color no matter how hard some ppl make it to be that way, if a white artist makes the list and s black artist doesn't that just means hey that white artist was doing something a little more... ? are very disrespectful when it comes to the music game...

  • evoljeanyes
    evoljeanyes Members Posts: 3,740 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    ? Johnny cash and Billy joel smashing Sinatra!!! He is over ? rated. Madonna is a performer...she is not a good song maker. She has party anthems and ? ...not classic songs.

    Sinatra couldn't blow! ? like a poor man's john legend. He wrote maybe two songs...? outta here. All love songs. He is regular. Its not about black or white. Incubus and zeppelin and paramore should get run.

    Brand new eyes is a stupid dope album
  • evoljeanyes
    evoljeanyes Members Posts: 3,740 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Mariah Whitney Beyonce Cindy Lauper. All killing madonna
  • evoljeanyes
    evoljeanyes Members Posts: 3,740 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Rick is funky as hell but, no! Jimi Hendrix is dope on the guitar but ? he didn't have enough content. I can't out him on a list with people who use lyrics as there main focus. also has minimal content.
  • Tommy bilfiger
    Tommy bilfiger Members Posts: 22,675 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Elton John>>>>Frank sinatra



  • _Menace_
    _Menace_ Members, Writer Posts: 26,613 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Co-sign

    Mariah and Whitney are better than Madonna no doubt

    Frank Sinatra not blowin? He got some tracks where he does

    Elton John said himself Sinatra is the GOAT
  • evoljeanyes
    evoljeanyes Members Posts: 3,740 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Sinatra only wrote two songs. Shouldn't that disqualify him?
  • _Menace_
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    Where did you hear Sinatra wrote 2songs?

    I have Whitney in my list and I know you do to but she hasn't wrote a damn thing
    But her voice what made her legendary same goes for Sinatra
  • evoljeanyes
    evoljeanyes Members Posts: 3,740 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I don't have whit on my list. She is just better than Madonna to me.

    You can Google it from mad places. I would copy and paste but, I am on my phone.

    The difference between whit and frank...whit could blow. Even lady day only wrote a couple dongs. That's why I don't rank her. Doesn't mean her music isn't great. Same with Frank.

    I know I came in hostile, my bad. I ? with music long ways though. None of your picks suck. But you have to consider everything. Sinatra is literally Justin beiber before Justin beiber -minus the ability to okay instruments.

    Lil Frankie was bred and branded Charming, yes. Crooner, yes. Talented, yes. But all time great as a lyrics based artist can't do it.
  • _Menace_
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    I know you didn't compare bieber to Sinatra

    Sinatra is a top 20 musician he's done so much for music he established a name for himself

    I'm on my phone to when i get on the laptop I'll show you songs where frank was blowing
  • evoljeanyes
    evoljeanyes Members Posts: 3,740 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    What did he do for music?

    Look up frank Sinatra's background. He was Justin beiber. He started off as a teen heart throb.

    Mob affiliation and political affiliation and ? bad ? made him famous.
  • alphajjc
    alphajjc Members Posts: 427 ✭✭✭
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    ? Johnny cash and Billy joel smashing Sinatra!!! He is over ? rated. Madonna is a performer...she is not a good song maker. She has party anthems and ? ...not classic songs.

    Sinatra couldn't blow! ? like a poor man's john legend. He wrote maybe two songs...? outta here. All love songs. He is regular. Its not about black or white. Incubus and zeppelin and paramore should get run.

    Brand new eyes is a stupid dope album

    Billie Holiday only wrote about 4 or 5 songs

    Whitney never wrote any songs

  • evoljeanyes
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    @alphajjc I mentioned Billie in the thread already too...you're right. That's why she can't get in my top 20. Nor can Whitney .
  • alphajjc
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    _Menace_ wrote: »
    Top 20 musicians of all time imo (No order )

    Frank Sinatra
    Tupac
    Nas
    Mariah Carey
    Bob Marley
    Marvin Gaye
    Jimi Hendrix
    The Beatles
    Whitney Houston
    Micheal Jackson
    James Brown
    Bruce Springsteen
    Elvis
    Rick James
    The Temptations
    Al Green
    Aaliyah (YES AALIYAH)
    Madonna
    Stevie Wonder
    Prince

    lol at Aaliyah's inclusion...? didn't write or produce her own ? ...? she doin' on this list?

    Why would you call a dead woman a ? ?

    Any reason?

    And anyway, did you notice that many of the people on his list also did not produce their own music? So why single out Aaliyah?

    Yeah R-Kelly and Missy Elliot wrote her music, but wasn't her voice actually a part of that music? One can't coexist without the other.

    And with that voice she made some classic records.

    You make it seem like she is Katy Perry or something.
  • _Menace_
    _Menace_ Members, Writer Posts: 26,613 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    You're done this one sided debacle is similar to johnny cochran systematically destroying marcia clark

    you just postin videos that Ive seen years ago

    post a song where aaliyah is vocally blowing like bey on hello,dangerously in love,halo or get me bodied

    Still waiting on that

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    Looks wise beyonce killin aaliyah



    Aaliyah is blowing in this track forgot to post this


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnFKa8iuwHU
  • _Menace_
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    What did he do for music?

    Look up frank Sinatra's background. He was Justin beiber. He started off as a teen heart throb.

    Mob affiliation and political affiliation and ? bad ? made him famous.

    Sinatra brought that MOB style to the music scene he was about that life but wouldnt brag about about

    Your going to tell me as a kid growing up you didnt listen to any Sinatra songs? I mean his music was in every movie basically and his music would be played on holiday's he has that voice that you already know "like oh that's sinatra singing"
  • CeLLaR-DooR
    CeLLaR-DooR Members Posts: 18,880 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    alphajjc wrote: »
    _Menace_ wrote: »
    Top 20 musicians of all time imo (No order )

    Frank Sinatra
    Tupac
    Nas
    Mariah Carey
    Bob Marley
    Marvin Gaye
    Jimi Hendrix
    The Beatles
    Whitney Houston
    Micheal Jackson
    James Brown
    Bruce Springsteen
    Elvis
    Rick James
    The Temptations
    Al Green
    Aaliyah (YES AALIYAH)
    Madonna
    Stevie Wonder
    Prince

    lol at Aaliyah's inclusion...? didn't write or produce her own ? ...? she doin' on this list?

    Why would you call a dead woman a ? ?

    Any reason?

    And anyway, did you notice that many of the people on his list also did not produce their own music? So why single out Aaliyah?

    Yeah R-Kelly and Missy Elliot wrote her music, but wasn't her voice actually a part of that music? One can't coexist without the other.

    And with that voice she made some classic records.

    You make it seem like she is Katy Perry or something.

    So I can call an alive women a ? , but not a dead one?

    Singled out Aaliyah because the others made a significantly more telling contribution to music than she did...Like already stated...Beyonce >>

    No way Aaliyah should be anywhere near any top 20...even top 50 would be pushin' it...