Full video of the Ray Rice haymaker on his wife
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Recaptimus_Prime360 wrote: »Recaptimus_Prime360 wrote: »damobb2deep wrote: »damobb2deep wrote: »CoonKillaThird wrote: »I stayed because I was mentally weak as ? . I left because after all those ass whoopins I couldn't take the ? no more.
#beforreal
That's what this kinda looks like tho.
hoe staying bc the money as soon as that ? go bankrupt shell be on oprah talmbout how hard it was to leave him and how much hell he put her thru
She was with him before the money though. She's just dumb.
so she dumb... but you want ray rice to go thru hell for hitting her.... again you are showing this wasn't about her 2 begin with...
I've already said it wasn't before I entertained your misguided ? . Does that matter?????
lol.. then you know that makes you look dumb as ? ... you really don't have a basis for an argument if it's not about her...
What the ? do you mean I don't have a basis? He's allowed to hit people? That's okay? It's about his actions not about her.
But you're ignoring the fact that SHE admitted to taking part of the blame as well. Again, the WHOLE vid shows her smackin him 1st. You can't just act like that didn't exist, and only focus on one side of the story.
Lmao that's what YOU'RE doing tho sweetie.
How? Show me where I've said only one of them is wrong like you. Apparently you haven't been reading the post, and only skimming them.
From the beginning
- I've said BOTH of them are at fault.
- You got FULL video evidence showing her striking him 1st before they even walked in the elevator.
- You got video of him knocking her out.
- The press conference where BOTH of them took responsibility for their part.
- Her IG response sayin she's ? off about how the media is portraying what happened.
- HER pretty much tellin folks to mind their business and that it's a family issue.
@. No need to keep defending her.
As for your "Post it" comment regarding her spittin ob him 1st...
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5789752
I'm Not defending her. I'm saying he's a ? ? . I'm supposed to feel sorry for a ? who will knock a ? out and drag her across a ? ass floor? And I'm supposed to assign blame equally when HE wasn't hurt in the "fight"? You're high huh?
Both are to blame for the WHOLE thing. Both of them from their own mouths took responsibility woman. That's fact.
@ ? for what he did. But lets not act like she didn't have a hand in that situation. Especially when you got the video evidence. Especially when she admitted her part in that press conference. Especially when you have her denouncing what's being portrayed about them.
So at this point the issue is dead with me. Muthafuccas are gonna be callin for Goddell's job (which I doubt he'll lose). And smh @ my Ravens organization if they had this tape chillin on the desk this whole time.
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Recaptimus_Prime360 wrote: »Recaptimus_Prime360 wrote: »Recaptimus_Prime360 wrote: »damobb2deep wrote: »damobb2deep wrote: »CoonKillaThird wrote: »I stayed because I was mentally weak as ? . I left because after all those ass whoopins I couldn't take the ? no more.
#beforreal
That's what this kinda looks like tho.
hoe staying bc the money as soon as that ? go bankrupt shell be on oprah talmbout how hard it was to leave him and how much hell he put her thru
She was with him before the money though. She's just dumb.
so she dumb... but you want ray rice to go thru hell for hitting her.... again you are showing this wasn't about her 2 begin with...
I've already said it wasn't before I entertained your misguided ? . Does that matter?????
lol.. then you know that makes you look dumb as ? ... you really don't have a basis for an argument if it's not about her...
What the ? do you mean I don't have a basis? He's allowed to hit people? That's okay? It's about his actions not about her.
But you're ignoring the fact that SHE admitted to taking part of the blame as well. Again, the WHOLE vid shows her smackin him 1st. You can't just act like that didn't exist, and only focus on one side of the story.
Lmao that's what YOU'RE doing tho sweetie.
How? Show me where I've said only one of them is wrong like you. Apparently you haven't been reading the post, and only skimming them.
From the beginning
- I've said BOTH of them are at fault.
- You got FULL video evidence showing her striking him 1st before they even walked in the elevator.
- You got video of him knocking her out.
- The press conference where BOTH of them took responsibility for their part.
- Her IG response sayin she's ? off about how the media is portraying what happened.
- HER pretty much tellin folks to mind their business and that it's a family issue.
@. No need to keep defending her.
As for your "Post it" comment regarding her spittin ob him 1st...
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5789752
I'm Not defending her. I'm saying he's a ? ? . I'm supposed to feel sorry for a ? who will knock a ? out and drag her across a ? ass floor? And I'm supposed to assign blame equally when HE wasn't hurt in the "fight"? You're high huh?
Both are to blame for the WHOLE thing. Both of them from their own mouths took responsibility woman. That's fact.
@ ? for what he did. But lets not act like she didn't have a hand in that situation. Especially when you got the video evidence. Especially when she admitted her part in that press conference. Especially when you have her denouncing what's being portrayed about them.
So at this point the issue is dead with me. Muthafuccas are gonna be callin for Goddell's job (which I doubt he'll lose). And smh @ my Ravens organization if they had this tape chillin on the desk this whole time.
Lmao just no no no -
Y'all want that dumb chick to take responsibility for getting knocked the ? out cuz she may have said his momma sucks ? ? and she may have spit on him first but ? forbid that ? get penalized.
Question:
If I tell a dude his Mama sucks ? ? (which I wouldnt because Im way better at insults than Mama jokes) and I spit in his face and I get knocked out....WOULD HE BE WRONG?
And try not to tap dance around the question -_-
Yes. But that being said, men and women are not equal, I'm not going to treat that instance equally.
Question: Are you not aware that males are rarely physically equal in fights also. Should larger males who knock out smaller males be held to the same standard even if they do not take the first swing?
Why did you not consider the fact that not all males are physically equal but you have no problem applying that logic to females?
Nobody should fight. Use your words children.
AHHHHH Come on westie thats such a cop out. You've spent the whole thread pretty much saying "men should hit back because we're bigger." So tell me if a bigger man should hit a smaller man if he himself is hit by the smaller man first.
YOU KNOW...since it's about the fairness of the fight and all
DONT WORRY I'LL WAIT
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Yeah at this point Westie is trollin. Has to be.
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damobb2deep wrote: »damobb2deep wrote: »CoonKillaThird wrote: »I stayed because I was mentally weak as ? . I left because after all those ass whoopins I couldn't take the ? no more.
#beforreal
That's what this kinda looks like tho.
hoe staying bc the money as soon as that ? go bankrupt shell be on oprah talmbout how hard it was to leave him and how much hell he put her thru
She was with him before the money though. She's just dumb.
so she dumb... but you want ray rice to go thru hell for hitting her.... again you are showing this wasn't about her 2 begin with...
I've already said it wasn't before I entertained your misguided ? . Does that matter?????
lol.. then you know that makes you look dumb as ? ... you really don't have a basis for an argument if it's not about her...
What the ? do you mean I don't have a basis? He's allowed to hit people? That's okay? It's about his actions not about her.
no he is not allowed to hit anyone but he did... she is not allowed to spit/hit anyone either...( which they both admitted to doing and apologized 4) but her actions are partly the cause of his actions..they both should get the blame... but it seems like you don't see it that way which is why I said you don't have an argument if you don't make it about her... -
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Why you at me? I said he should not have hit her.The NFL saw the whole thing. Ray never said he defended himself.He said he was wrong and told the league that he did knock her out.
@damobb2deepdesertrain10 wrote: »damobb2deep wrote: »
that's not ray fault the nfl was not consistent... they gave him a punishment that ? shoulda stood... remember this is a BILLION DOLLAR company.. do you truly think if they woulda stood by they decision they would have lost all endorsements? ? naw... this is the same company that is so arrogant that they want people to PAY THEM to perform at the super bowl.... it was said that only the Oscars made the top 10-20 most viewed shows last year everything else was football games.. given they do wanna be seen as a "family friendly" company that's tolerant... but if you ? up stand by your ? up.. don't throw yo ? up out to dry that makes you look worse on some cover up ? ... that's why you have heard people poking holes in the stories they saying...desertrain10 wrote: »damobb2deep wrote: »
... ? his wife is staying by him and honestly this ? is prolly bringing them closer then farther apart... her Instagram and phone convo with that espn reporter shows she ain't weak minded... like I said before ray ain't getting punished for the ? he did to his wife... he getting punished for all the chicks who getting beat and don't wanna leave they ? . .desertrain10 wrote: »
? 's hilarious and sad because these women don't even realize that.....regardless of what their reasons for staying or leaving were.....they're still acknowledging that they had a choice in the matter either way.
All they're really doing is admitting that they either made good decisions or bad decisions.
Bottom line, it was still their decision to stay or leave.
Don't really understand what point they're trying to make.
Hilarious? Why? How old are you really? Lol
The point is support
Sure these stories are inspiring to the women who are in abusive relationships and don't yet have the strength to leave
Leaving is not always so simple a choice especially when u have children and have no means to take care of ur children
Friend of mine i grew up with ending up living out a car for a while when her mom left her dad who was abusive
Plus a lot of domestic violent victims arent thinking straight anyways
Ray rice is being punished because he knocked his wife unconscious
had he taken a different course of action victims of domestic abuse would have nothing to rally around
Had roger goddell been consistent the media would have nothing to report
And like i said yesterday its become bigger than just about what ray rice did and what the nfl chose not to do
btw how is ray rice getting punished for hitting his wife when he already got that punishment in june? so you saying it's ok to punish a person more than once for the same offense?
Ur right to a certain extent about the nfl dropping the ball but new evidence was introduced...the video ...which the league says they are just now seeing
The video which contradicts rays initial claim he was only defending himself
And still what u all seem unable to accept is ray is responsible for this whole mess
Lol
@Recaptimus_Prime360
@VulcanRaven
@anyothermemberoftheicbitterniggabrigade
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desertrain10 wrote: »damobb2deep wrote: »
that's not ray fault the nfl was not consistent... they gave him a punishment that ? shoulda stood... remember this is a BILLION DOLLAR company.. do you truly think if they woulda stood by they decision they would have lost all endorsements? ? naw... this is the same company that is so arrogant that they want people to PAY THEM to perform at the super bowl.... it was said that only the Oscars made the top 10-20 most viewed shows last year everything else was football games.. given they do wanna be seen as a "family friendly" company that's tolerant... but if you ? up stand by your ? up.. don't throw yo ? up out to dry that makes you look worse on some cover up ? ... that's why you have heard people poking holes in the stories they saying...desertrain10 wrote: »damobb2deep wrote: »
... ? his wife is staying by him and honestly this ? is prolly bringing them closer then farther apart... her Instagram and phone convo with that espn reporter shows she ain't weak minded... like I said before ray ain't getting punished for the ? he did to his wife... he getting punished for all the chicks who getting beat and don't wanna leave they ? . .desertrain10 wrote: »
? 's hilarious and sad because these women don't even realize that.....regardless of what their reasons for staying or leaving were.....they're still acknowledging that they had a choice in the matter either way.
All they're really doing is admitting that they either made good decisions or bad decisions.
Bottom line, it was still their decision to stay or leave.
Don't really understand what point they're trying to make.
Hilarious? Why? How old are you really? Lol
The point is support
Sure these stories are inspiring to the women who are in abusive relationships and don't yet have the strength to leave
Leaving is not always so simple a choice especially when u have children and have no means to take care of ur children
Friend of mine i grew up with ending up living out a car for a while when her mom left her dad who was abusive
Plus a lot of domestic violent victims arent thinking straight anyways
Ray rice is being punished because he knocked his wife unconscious
had he taken a different course of action victims of domestic abuse would have nothing to rally around
Had roger goddell been consistent the media would have nothing to report
And like i said yesterday its become bigger than just about what ray rice did and what the nfl chose not to do
btw how is ray rice getting punished for hitting his wife when he already got that punishment in june? so you saying it's ok to punish a person more than once for the same offense?
Ur right to a certain extent about the nfl dropping the ball but new evidence was introduced...the video ...which the league says they are just now seeing
The video which contradicts rays initial claim he was only defending himself
And still what u all seem unable to accept is ray is responsible for this whole mess
Lol
what you don't seem to see is that he is not fully to blame... if his wife takes up for her end of the situation then obviously it's not all him... don't y'all know spitting on somebody can be considered assault ( in some states) don't y'all know that there is a gray area as far as what a person believes is defending themselves? don't you know that verbal/emotional abuse/ threats can be held as a reason for defending yourself in some states?
again I'm not condoning what he did but 2 say it's all his fault and his wife... the ravens/nfl had no part in how this ? went down as a whole is just wrong...
btw it's being investigated now on how the nfl had 2 know the tape existed.. they knew.. and again ( because you didn't answer last time) do you think he should be punished twice for the same offense? ( which neither punishment lines up with either guideline) -
Y'all want that dumb chick to take responsibility for getting knocked the ? out cuz she may have said his momma sucks ? ? and she may have spit on him first but ? forbid that ? get penalized.
Question:
If I tell a dude his Mama sucks ? ? (which I wouldnt because Im way better at insults than Mama jokes) and I spit in his face and I get knocked out....WOULD HE BE WRONG?
And try not to tap dance around the question -_-
Yes. But that being said, men and women are not equal, I'm not going to treat that instance equally.
Question: Are you not aware that males are rarely physically equal in fights also. Should larger males who knock out smaller males be held to the same standard even if they do not take the first swing?
Why did you not consider the fact that not all males are physically equal but you have no problem applying that logic to females?
Nobody should fight. Use your words children.
AHHHHH Come on westie thats such a cop out. You've spent the whole thread pretty much saying "men should hit back because we're bigger." So tell me if a bigger man should hit a smaller man if he himself is hit by the smaller man first.
YOU KNOW...since it's about the fairness of the fight and all
DONT WORRY I'LL WAIT
lol
I said no tho. It's illegalVulcanRaven wrote: »
Why you at me? I said he should not have hit her.The NFL saw the whole thing. Ray never said he defended himself.He said he was wrong and told the league that he did knock her out.
@damobb2deepdesertrain10 wrote: »damobb2deep wrote: »
that's not ray fault the nfl was not consistent... they gave him a punishment that ? shoulda stood... remember this is a BILLION DOLLAR company.. do you truly think if they woulda stood by they decision they would have lost all endorsements? ? naw... this is the same company that is so arrogant that they want people to PAY THEM to perform at the super bowl.... it was said that only the Oscars made the top 10-20 most viewed shows last year everything else was football games.. given they do wanna be seen as a "family friendly" company that's tolerant... but if you ? up stand by your ? up.. don't throw yo ? up out to dry that makes you look worse on some cover up ? ... that's why you have heard people poking holes in the stories they saying...desertrain10 wrote: »damobb2deep wrote: »
... ? his wife is staying by him and honestly this ? is prolly bringing them closer then farther apart... her Instagram and phone convo with that espn reporter shows she ain't weak minded... like I said before ray ain't getting punished for the ? he did to his wife... he getting punished for all the chicks who getting beat and don't wanna leave they ? . .desertrain10 wrote: »
? 's hilarious and sad because these women don't even realize that.....regardless of what their reasons for staying or leaving were.....they're still acknowledging that they had a choice in the matter either way.
All they're really doing is admitting that they either made good decisions or bad decisions.
Bottom line, it was still their decision to stay or leave.
Don't really understand what point they're trying to make.
Hilarious? Why? How old are you really? Lol
The point is support
Sure these stories are inspiring to the women who are in abusive relationships and don't yet have the strength to leave
Leaving is not always so simple a choice especially when u have children and have no means to take care of ur children
Friend of mine i grew up with ending up living out a car for a while when her mom left her dad who was abusive
Plus a lot of domestic violent victims arent thinking straight anyways
Ray rice is being punished because he knocked his wife unconscious
had he taken a different course of action victims of domestic abuse would have nothing to rally around
Had roger goddell been consistent the media would have nothing to report
And like i said yesterday its become bigger than just about what ray rice did and what the nfl chose not to do
btw how is ray rice getting punished for hitting his wife when he already got that punishment in june? so you saying it's ok to punish a person more than once for the same offense?
Ur right to a certain extent about the nfl dropping the ball but new evidence was introduced...the video ...which the league says they are just now seeing
The video which contradicts rays initial claim he was only defending himself
And still what u all seem unable to accept is ray is responsible for this whole mess
Lol
@Recaptimus_Prime360
@VulcanRaven
@anyothermemberoftheicbitterniggabrigade
My bad I just remember a lot of hatred for women coming from your posts. -
Y'all want that dumb chick to take responsibility for getting knocked the ? out cuz she may have said his momma sucks ? ? and she may have spit on him first but ? forbid that ? get penalized.
you have officially became a troll on this situation in my book... -
VulcanRaven wrote: »
Why you at me? I said he should not have hit her.The NFL saw the whole thing. Ray never said he defended himself.He said he was wrong and told the league that he did knock her out.
@damobb2deepdesertrain10 wrote: »damobb2deep wrote: »
that's not ray fault the nfl was not consistent... they gave him a punishment that ? shoulda stood... remember this is a BILLION DOLLAR company.. do you truly think if they woulda stood by they decision they would have lost all endorsements? ? naw... this is the same company that is so arrogant that they want people to PAY THEM to perform at the super bowl.... it was said that only the Oscars made the top 10-20 most viewed shows last year everything else was football games.. given they do wanna be seen as a "family friendly" company that's tolerant... but if you ? up stand by your ? up.. don't throw yo ? up out to dry that makes you look worse on some cover up ? ... that's why you have heard people poking holes in the stories they saying...desertrain10 wrote: »damobb2deep wrote: »
... ? his wife is staying by him and honestly this ? is prolly bringing them closer then farther apart... her Instagram and phone convo with that espn reporter shows she ain't weak minded... like I said before ray ain't getting punished for the ? he did to his wife... he getting punished for all the chicks who getting beat and don't wanna leave they ? . .desertrain10 wrote: »
? 's hilarious and sad because these women don't even realize that.....regardless of what their reasons for staying or leaving were.....they're still acknowledging that they had a choice in the matter either way.
All they're really doing is admitting that they either made good decisions or bad decisions.
Bottom line, it was still their decision to stay or leave.
Don't really understand what point they're trying to make.
Hilarious? Why? How old are you really? Lol
The point is support
Sure these stories are inspiring to the women who are in abusive relationships and don't yet have the strength to leave
Leaving is not always so simple a choice especially when u have children and have no means to take care of ur children
Friend of mine i grew up with ending up living out a car for a while when her mom left her dad who was abusive
Plus a lot of domestic violent victims arent thinking straight anyways
Ray rice is being punished because he knocked his wife unconscious
had he taken a different course of action victims of domestic abuse would have nothing to rally around
Had roger goddell been consistent the media would have nothing to report
And like i said yesterday its become bigger than just about what ray rice did and what the nfl chose not to do
btw how is ray rice getting punished for hitting his wife when he already got that punishment in june? so you saying it's ok to punish a person more than once for the same offense?
Ur right to a certain extent about the nfl dropping the ball but new evidence was introduced...the video ...which the league says they are just now seeing
The video which contradicts rays initial claim he was only defending himself
And still what u all seem unable to accept is ray is responsible for this whole mess
Lol
@Recaptimus_Prime360
@VulcanRaven
@anyothermemberoftheicbitterniggabrigade
dont feed the troll bruh smh... -
Oh no....damobb2deep wrote: »
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damobb2deep wrote: »VulcanRaven wrote: »
Why you at me? I said he should not have hit her.The NFL saw the whole thing. Ray never said he defended himself.He said he was wrong and told the league that he did knock her out.
@damobb2deepdesertrain10 wrote: »damobb2deep wrote: »
that's not ray fault the nfl was not consistent... they gave him a punishment that ? shoulda stood... remember this is a BILLION DOLLAR company.. do you truly think if they woulda stood by they decision they would have lost all endorsements? ? naw... this is the same company that is so arrogant that they want people to PAY THEM to perform at the super bowl.... it was said that only the Oscars made the top 10-20 most viewed shows last year everything else was football games.. given they do wanna be seen as a "family friendly" company that's tolerant... but if you ? up stand by your ? up.. don't throw yo ? up out to dry that makes you look worse on some cover up ? ... that's why you have heard people poking holes in the stories they saying...desertrain10 wrote: »damobb2deep wrote: »
... ? his wife is staying by him and honestly this ? is prolly bringing them closer then farther apart... her Instagram and phone convo with that espn reporter shows she ain't weak minded... like I said before ray ain't getting punished for the ? he did to his wife... he getting punished for all the chicks who getting beat and don't wanna leave they ? . .desertrain10 wrote: »
? 's hilarious and sad because these women don't even realize that.....regardless of what their reasons for staying or leaving were.....they're still acknowledging that they had a choice in the matter either way.
All they're really doing is admitting that they either made good decisions or bad decisions.
Bottom line, it was still their decision to stay or leave.
Don't really understand what point they're trying to make.
Hilarious? Why? How old are you really? Lol
The point is support
Sure these stories are inspiring to the women who are in abusive relationships and don't yet have the strength to leave
Leaving is not always so simple a choice especially when u have children and have no means to take care of ur children
Friend of mine i grew up with ending up living out a car for a while when her mom left her dad who was abusive
Plus a lot of domestic violent victims arent thinking straight anyways
Ray rice is being punished because he knocked his wife unconscious
had he taken a different course of action victims of domestic abuse would have nothing to rally around
Had roger goddell been consistent the media would have nothing to report
And like i said yesterday its become bigger than just about what ray rice did and what the nfl chose not to do
btw how is ray rice getting punished for hitting his wife when he already got that punishment in june? so you saying it's ok to punish a person more than once for the same offense?
Ur right to a certain extent about the nfl dropping the ball but new evidence was introduced...the video ...which the league says they are just now seeing
The video which contradicts rays initial claim he was only defending himself
And still what u all seem unable to accept is ray is responsible for this whole mess
Lol
@Recaptimus_Prime360
@VulcanRaven
@anyothermemberoftheicbitterniggabrigade
dont feed the troll bruh smh...
Stop juggling ray rices ? . Why do you care so much? The only acceptable answer is that you've made the mistake of being a ravens fan. -
Y'all want that dumb chick to take responsibility for getting knocked the ? out cuz she may have said his momma sucks ? ? and she may have spit on him first but ? forbid that ? get penalized.
Question:
If I tell a dude his Mama sucks ? ? (which I wouldnt because Im way better at insults than Mama jokes) and I spit in his face and I get knocked out....WOULD HE BE WRONG?
And try not to tap dance around the question -_-
Yes. But that being said, men and women are not equal, I'm not going to treat that instance equally.
Question: Are you not aware that males are rarely physically equal in fights also. Should larger males who knock out smaller males be held to the same standard even if they do not take the first swing?
Why did you not consider the fact that not all males are physically equal but you have no problem applying that logic to females?
Nobody should fight. Use your words children.
AHHHHH Come on westie thats such a cop out. You've spent the whole thread pretty much saying "men should hit back because we're bigger." So tell me if a bigger man should hit a smaller man if he himself is hit by the smaller man first.
YOU KNOW...since it's about the fairness of the fight and all
DONT WORRY I'LL WAIT
lol
I said no tho. It's illegalVulcanRaven wrote: »
Why you at me? I said he should not have hit her.The NFL saw the whole thing. Ray never said he defended himself.He said he was wrong and told the league that he did knock her out.
@damobb2deepdesertrain10 wrote: »damobb2deep wrote: »
that's not ray fault the nfl was not consistent... they gave him a punishment that ? shoulda stood... remember this is a BILLION DOLLAR company.. do you truly think if they woulda stood by they decision they would have lost all endorsements? ? naw... this is the same company that is so arrogant that they want people to PAY THEM to perform at the super bowl.... it was said that only the Oscars made the top 10-20 most viewed shows last year everything else was football games.. given they do wanna be seen as a "family friendly" company that's tolerant... but if you ? up stand by your ? up.. don't throw yo ? up out to dry that makes you look worse on some cover up ? ... that's why you have heard people poking holes in the stories they saying...desertrain10 wrote: »damobb2deep wrote: »
... ? his wife is staying by him and honestly this ? is prolly bringing them closer then farther apart... her Instagram and phone convo with that espn reporter shows she ain't weak minded... like I said before ray ain't getting punished for the ? he did to his wife... he getting punished for all the chicks who getting beat and don't wanna leave they ? . .desertrain10 wrote: »
? 's hilarious and sad because these women don't even realize that.....regardless of what their reasons for staying or leaving were.....they're still acknowledging that they had a choice in the matter either way.
All they're really doing is admitting that they either made good decisions or bad decisions.
Bottom line, it was still their decision to stay or leave.
Don't really understand what point they're trying to make.
Hilarious? Why? How old are you really? Lol
The point is support
Sure these stories are inspiring to the women who are in abusive relationships and don't yet have the strength to leave
Leaving is not always so simple a choice especially when u have children and have no means to take care of ur children
Friend of mine i grew up with ending up living out a car for a while when her mom left her dad who was abusive
Plus a lot of domestic violent victims arent thinking straight anyways
Ray rice is being punished because he knocked his wife unconscious
had he taken a different course of action victims of domestic abuse would have nothing to rally around
Had roger goddell been consistent the media would have nothing to report
And like i said yesterday its become bigger than just about what ray rice did and what the nfl chose not to do
btw how is ray rice getting punished for hitting his wife when he already got that punishment in june? so you saying it's ok to punish a person more than once for the same offense?
Ur right to a certain extent about the nfl dropping the ball but new evidence was introduced...the video ...which the league says they are just now seeing
The video which contradicts rays initial claim he was only defending himself
And still what u all seem unable to accept is ray is responsible for this whole mess
Lol
@Recaptimus_Prime360
@VulcanRaven
@anyothermemberoftheicbitterniggabrigade
My bad I just remember a lot of hatred for women coming from your posts.
LOL I have no hatred for women.Just believe in true equality.Anyway,the Ravens,Ray and NFL all look bad in this situation.I lose respect for the owner and Goodell for throwing him under the bus knowing they seen that whole tape. -
damobb2deep wrote: »VulcanRaven wrote: »
Why you at me? I said he should not have hit her.The NFL saw the whole thing. Ray never said he defended himself.He said he was wrong and told the league that he did knock her out.
@damobb2deepdesertrain10 wrote: »damobb2deep wrote: »
that's not ray fault the nfl was not consistent... they gave him a punishment that ? shoulda stood... remember this is a BILLION DOLLAR company.. do you truly think if they woulda stood by they decision they would have lost all endorsements? ? naw... this is the same company that is so arrogant that they want people to PAY THEM to perform at the super bowl.... it was said that only the Oscars made the top 10-20 most viewed shows last year everything else was football games.. given they do wanna be seen as a "family friendly" company that's tolerant... but if you ? up stand by your ? up.. don't throw yo ? up out to dry that makes you look worse on some cover up ? ... that's why you have heard people poking holes in the stories they saying...desertrain10 wrote: »damobb2deep wrote: »
... ? his wife is staying by him and honestly this ? is prolly bringing them closer then farther apart... her Instagram and phone convo with that espn reporter shows she ain't weak minded... like I said before ray ain't getting punished for the ? he did to his wife... he getting punished for all the chicks who getting beat and don't wanna leave they ? . .desertrain10 wrote: »
? 's hilarious and sad because these women don't even realize that.....regardless of what their reasons for staying or leaving were.....they're still acknowledging that they had a choice in the matter either way.
All they're really doing is admitting that they either made good decisions or bad decisions.
Bottom line, it was still their decision to stay or leave.
Don't really understand what point they're trying to make.
Hilarious? Why? How old are you really? Lol
The point is support
Sure these stories are inspiring to the women who are in abusive relationships and don't yet have the strength to leave
Leaving is not always so simple a choice especially when u have children and have no means to take care of ur children
Friend of mine i grew up with ending up living out a car for a while when her mom left her dad who was abusive
Plus a lot of domestic violent victims arent thinking straight anyways
Ray rice is being punished because he knocked his wife unconscious
had he taken a different course of action victims of domestic abuse would have nothing to rally around
Had roger goddell been consistent the media would have nothing to report
And like i said yesterday its become bigger than just about what ray rice did and what the nfl chose not to do
btw how is ray rice getting punished for hitting his wife when he already got that punishment in june? so you saying it's ok to punish a person more than once for the same offense?
Ur right to a certain extent about the nfl dropping the ball but new evidence was introduced...the video ...which the league says they are just now seeing
The video which contradicts rays initial claim he was only defending himself
And still what u all seem unable to accept is ray is responsible for this whole mess
Lol
@Recaptimus_Prime360
@VulcanRaven
@anyothermemberoftheicbitterniggabrigade
dont feed the troll bruh smh...
Stop juggling ray rices ? . Why do you care so much? The only acceptable answer is that you've made the mistake of being a ravens fan.
umm I'm a rams fan...smh.. -
damobb2deep wrote: »damobb2deep wrote: »VulcanRaven wrote: »
Why you at me? I said he should not have hit her.The NFL saw the whole thing. Ray never said he defended himself.He said he was wrong and told the league that he did knock her out.
@damobb2deepdesertrain10 wrote: »damobb2deep wrote: »
that's not ray fault the nfl was not consistent... they gave him a punishment that ? shoulda stood... remember this is a BILLION DOLLAR company.. do you truly think if they woulda stood by they decision they would have lost all endorsements? ? naw... this is the same company that is so arrogant that they want people to PAY THEM to perform at the super bowl.... it was said that only the Oscars made the top 10-20 most viewed shows last year everything else was football games.. given they do wanna be seen as a "family friendly" company that's tolerant... but if you ? up stand by your ? up.. don't throw yo ? up out to dry that makes you look worse on some cover up ? ... that's why you have heard people poking holes in the stories they saying...desertrain10 wrote: »damobb2deep wrote: »
... ? his wife is staying by him and honestly this ? is prolly bringing them closer then farther apart... her Instagram and phone convo with that espn reporter shows she ain't weak minded... like I said before ray ain't getting punished for the ? he did to his wife... he getting punished for all the chicks who getting beat and don't wanna leave they ? . .desertrain10 wrote: »
? 's hilarious and sad because these women don't even realize that.....regardless of what their reasons for staying or leaving were.....they're still acknowledging that they had a choice in the matter either way.
All they're really doing is admitting that they either made good decisions or bad decisions.
Bottom line, it was still their decision to stay or leave.
Don't really understand what point they're trying to make.
Hilarious? Why? How old are you really? Lol
The point is support
Sure these stories are inspiring to the women who are in abusive relationships and don't yet have the strength to leave
Leaving is not always so simple a choice especially when u have children and have no means to take care of ur children
Friend of mine i grew up with ending up living out a car for a while when her mom left her dad who was abusive
Plus a lot of domestic violent victims arent thinking straight anyways
Ray rice is being punished because he knocked his wife unconscious
had he taken a different course of action victims of domestic abuse would have nothing to rally around
Had roger goddell been consistent the media would have nothing to report
And like i said yesterday its become bigger than just about what ray rice did and what the nfl chose not to do
btw how is ray rice getting punished for hitting his wife when he already got that punishment in june? so you saying it's ok to punish a person more than once for the same offense?
Ur right to a certain extent about the nfl dropping the ball but new evidence was introduced...the video ...which the league says they are just now seeing
The video which contradicts rays initial claim he was only defending himself
And still what u all seem unable to accept is ray is responsible for this whole mess
Lol
@Recaptimus_Prime360
@VulcanRaven
@anyothermemberoftheicbitterniggabrigade
dont feed the troll bruh smh...
Stop juggling ray rices ? . Why do you care so much? The only acceptable answer is that you've made the mistake of being a ravens fan.
umm I'm a rams fan...smh..
So why so mad? What happened that made you have all these feelings about his situation? -
VulcanRaven wrote: »Y'all want that dumb chick to take responsibility for getting knocked the ? out cuz she may have said his momma sucks ? ? and she may have spit on him first but ? forbid that ? get penalized.
Question:
If I tell a dude his Mama sucks ? ? (which I wouldnt because Im way better at insults than Mama jokes) and I spit in his face and I get knocked out....WOULD HE BE WRONG?
And try not to tap dance around the question -_-
Yes. But that being said, men and women are not equal, I'm not going to treat that instance equally.
Question: Are you not aware that males are rarely physically equal in fights also. Should larger males who knock out smaller males be held to the same standard even if they do not take the first swing?
Why did you not consider the fact that not all males are physically equal but you have no problem applying that logic to females?
Nobody should fight. Use your words children.
AHHHHH Come on westie thats such a cop out. You've spent the whole thread pretty much saying "men should hit back because we're bigger." So tell me if a bigger man should hit a smaller man if he himself is hit by the smaller man first.
YOU KNOW...since it's about the fairness of the fight and all
DONT WORRY I'LL WAIT
lol
I said no tho. It's illegalVulcanRaven wrote: »
Why you at me? I said he should not have hit her.The NFL saw the whole thing. Ray never said he defended himself.He said he was wrong and told the league that he did knock her out.
@damobb2deepdesertrain10 wrote: »damobb2deep wrote: »
that's not ray fault the nfl was not consistent... they gave him a punishment that ? shoulda stood... remember this is a BILLION DOLLAR company.. do you truly think if they woulda stood by they decision they would have lost all endorsements? ? naw... this is the same company that is so arrogant that they want people to PAY THEM to perform at the super bowl.... it was said that only the Oscars made the top 10-20 most viewed shows last year everything else was football games.. given they do wanna be seen as a "family friendly" company that's tolerant... but if you ? up stand by your ? up.. don't throw yo ? up out to dry that makes you look worse on some cover up ? ... that's why you have heard people poking holes in the stories they saying...desertrain10 wrote: »damobb2deep wrote: »
... ? his wife is staying by him and honestly this ? is prolly bringing them closer then farther apart... her Instagram and phone convo with that espn reporter shows she ain't weak minded... like I said before ray ain't getting punished for the ? he did to his wife... he getting punished for all the chicks who getting beat and don't wanna leave they ? . .desertrain10 wrote: »
? 's hilarious and sad because these women don't even realize that.....regardless of what their reasons for staying or leaving were.....they're still acknowledging that they had a choice in the matter either way.
All they're really doing is admitting that they either made good decisions or bad decisions.
Bottom line, it was still their decision to stay or leave.
Don't really understand what point they're trying to make.
Hilarious? Why? How old are you really? Lol
The point is support
Sure these stories are inspiring to the women who are in abusive relationships and don't yet have the strength to leave
Leaving is not always so simple a choice especially when u have children and have no means to take care of ur children
Friend of mine i grew up with ending up living out a car for a while when her mom left her dad who was abusive
Plus a lot of domestic violent victims arent thinking straight anyways
Ray rice is being punished because he knocked his wife unconscious
had he taken a different course of action victims of domestic abuse would have nothing to rally around
Had roger goddell been consistent the media would have nothing to report
And like i said yesterday its become bigger than just about what ray rice did and what the nfl chose not to do
btw how is ray rice getting punished for hitting his wife when he already got that punishment in june? so you saying it's ok to punish a person more than once for the same offense?
Ur right to a certain extent about the nfl dropping the ball but new evidence was introduced...the video ...which the league says they are just now seeing
The video which contradicts rays initial claim he was only defending himself
And still what u all seem unable to accept is ray is responsible for this whole mess
Lol
@Recaptimus_Prime360
@VulcanRaven
@anyothermemberoftheicbitterniggabrigade
My bad I just remember a lot of hatred for women coming from your posts.
LOL I have no hatred for women.Just believe in true equality.Anyway,the Ravens,Ray and NFL all look bad in this situation.I lose respect for the owner and Goodell for throwing him under the bus knowing they seen that whole tape.
This actually can help get ray back into the league. . -
For real...if one year ago there was a poll of all NFL fans that asked "What will be the downfall of Roger Goodell" nobody would have checked the box that said "Something involving Ray Rice"...this ? is amazing that he's facing all of this over a player that plays what's now not even a valued position in the league and was seen to be on his last legs anyway.
He has to step down now for lying about seeing that whole tape.He blew this whole thing. This is one case where I believe the cops, saying they sent it to them in April. Why would they lie? TMZ can get the tape, but the NFL can not? BS. -
I think Westie is mad Patriots lost, she'll be good when they win this weekend lol
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damobb2deep wrote: »damobb2deep wrote: »VulcanRaven wrote: »
Why you at me? I said he should not have hit her.The NFL saw the whole thing. Ray never said he defended himself.He said he was wrong and told the league that he did knock her out.
@damobb2deepdesertrain10 wrote: »damobb2deep wrote: »
that's not ray fault the nfl was not consistent... they gave him a punishment that ? shoulda stood... remember this is a BILLION DOLLAR company.. do you truly think if they woulda stood by they decision they would have lost all endorsements? ? naw... this is the same company that is so arrogant that they want people to PAY THEM to perform at the super bowl.... it was said that only the Oscars made the top 10-20 most viewed shows last year everything else was football games.. given they do wanna be seen as a "family friendly" company that's tolerant... but if you ? up stand by your ? up.. don't throw yo ? up out to dry that makes you look worse on some cover up ? ... that's why you have heard people poking holes in the stories they saying...desertrain10 wrote: »damobb2deep wrote: »
... ? his wife is staying by him and honestly this ? is prolly bringing them closer then farther apart... her Instagram and phone convo with that espn reporter shows she ain't weak minded... like I said before ray ain't getting punished for the ? he did to his wife... he getting punished for all the chicks who getting beat and don't wanna leave they ? . .desertrain10 wrote: »
? 's hilarious and sad because these women don't even realize that.....regardless of what their reasons for staying or leaving were.....they're still acknowledging that they had a choice in the matter either way.
All they're really doing is admitting that they either made good decisions or bad decisions.
Bottom line, it was still their decision to stay or leave.
Don't really understand what point they're trying to make.
Hilarious? Why? How old are you really? Lol
The point is support
Sure these stories are inspiring to the women who are in abusive relationships and don't yet have the strength to leave
Leaving is not always so simple a choice especially when u have children and have no means to take care of ur children
Friend of mine i grew up with ending up living out a car for a while when her mom left her dad who was abusive
Plus a lot of domestic violent victims arent thinking straight anyways
Ray rice is being punished because he knocked his wife unconscious
had he taken a different course of action victims of domestic abuse would have nothing to rally around
Had roger goddell been consistent the media would have nothing to report
And like i said yesterday its become bigger than just about what ray rice did and what the nfl chose not to do
btw how is ray rice getting punished for hitting his wife when he already got that punishment in june? so you saying it's ok to punish a person more than once for the same offense?
Ur right to a certain extent about the nfl dropping the ball but new evidence was introduced...the video ...which the league says they are just now seeing
The video which contradicts rays initial claim he was only defending himself
And still what u all seem unable to accept is ray is responsible for this whole mess
Lol
@Recaptimus_Prime360
@VulcanRaven
@anyothermemberoftheicbitterniggabrigade
dont feed the troll bruh smh...
Stop juggling ray rices ? . Why do you care so much? The only acceptable answer is that you've made the mistake of being a ravens fan.
umm I'm a rams fan...smh..
So why so mad? What happened that made you have all these feelings about his situation?
me seeing a person getting overly ridiculed for a situation... ( not that he don't deserve ridicule but that it's excessive)
btw no real "feelings" -
I think Westie is mad Patriots lost, she'll be good when they win this weekend lol
Why would you bring that up?????????????
*feelings* -
How does a voicemail verify which video they received?
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Y'all want that dumb chick to take responsibility for getting knocked the ? out cuz she may have said his momma sucks ? ? and she may have spit on him first but ? forbid that ? get penalized.
Question:
If I tell a dude his Mama sucks ? ? (which I wouldnt because Im way better at insults than Mama jokes) and I spit in his face and I get knocked out....WOULD HE BE WRONG?
And try not to tap dance around the question -_-
Yes. But that being said, men and women are not equal, I'm not going to treat that instance equally.
Question: Are you not aware that males are rarely physically equal in fights also. Should larger males who knock out smaller males be held to the same standard even if they do not take the first swing?
Why did you not consider the fact that not all males are physically equal but you have no problem applying that logic to females?
Nobody should fight. Use your words children.
AHHHHH Come on westie thats such a cop out. You've spent the whole thread pretty much saying "men should hit back because we're bigger." So tell me if a bigger man should hit a smaller man if he himself is hit by the smaller man first.
YOU KNOW...since it's about the fairness of the fight and all
DONT WORRY I'LL WAIT
lol
I said no tho. It's illegalVulcanRaven wrote: »
Why you at me? I said he should not have hit her.The NFL saw the whole thing. Ray never said he defended himself.He said he was wrong and told the league that he did knock her out.
@damobb2deepdesertrain10 wrote: »damobb2deep wrote: »
that's not ray fault the nfl was not consistent... they gave him a punishment that ? shoulda stood... remember this is a BILLION DOLLAR company.. do you truly think if they woulda stood by they decision they would have lost all endorsements? ? naw... this is the same company that is so arrogant that they want people to PAY THEM to perform at the super bowl.... it was said that only the Oscars made the top 10-20 most viewed shows last year everything else was football games.. given they do wanna be seen as a "family friendly" company that's tolerant... but if you ? up stand by your ? up.. don't throw yo ? up out to dry that makes you look worse on some cover up ? ... that's why you have heard people poking holes in the stories they saying...desertrain10 wrote: »damobb2deep wrote: »
... ? his wife is staying by him and honestly this ? is prolly bringing them closer then farther apart... her Instagram and phone convo with that espn reporter shows she ain't weak minded... like I said before ray ain't getting punished for the ? he did to his wife... he getting punished for all the chicks who getting beat and don't wanna leave they ? . .desertrain10 wrote: »
? 's hilarious and sad because these women don't even realize that.....regardless of what their reasons for staying or leaving were.....they're still acknowledging that they had a choice in the matter either way.
All they're really doing is admitting that they either made good decisions or bad decisions.
Bottom line, it was still their decision to stay or leave.
Don't really understand what point they're trying to make.
Hilarious? Why? How old are you really? Lol
The point is support
Sure these stories are inspiring to the women who are in abusive relationships and don't yet have the strength to leave
Leaving is not always so simple a choice especially when u have children and have no means to take care of ur children
Friend of mine i grew up with ending up living out a car for a while when her mom left her dad who was abusive
Plus a lot of domestic violent victims arent thinking straight anyways
Ray rice is being punished because he knocked his wife unconscious
had he taken a different course of action victims of domestic abuse would have nothing to rally around
Had roger goddell been consistent the media would have nothing to report
And like i said yesterday its become bigger than just about what ray rice did and what the nfl chose not to do
btw how is ray rice getting punished for hitting his wife when he already got that punishment in june? so you saying it's ok to punish a person more than once for the same offense?
Ur right to a certain extent about the nfl dropping the ball but new evidence was introduced...the video ...which the league says they are just now seeing
The video which contradicts rays initial claim he was only defending himself
And still what u all seem unable to accept is ray is responsible for this whole mess
Lol
@Recaptimus_Prime360
@VulcanRaven
@anyothermemberoftheicbitterniggabrigade
My bad I just remember a lot of hatred for women coming from your posts.
Wait a minute. So a dude who happens to be built bigger than the dude that assaults him FIRST is wrong for hitting the smaller dude back?
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Sometimes I wonder if you ? on here are really this ignorant or if it's some kind of ruse.
Don't try and twist my words cuz it won't work. According to video footage, she initiated both the spitting and the physical contact. None of you are speaking on that. That's all I'm saying. I hope that's clear enough
they keep avoiding it spewing lies. She spit and hit that man first.... Thats the worst u can do to a person and explains the rage....n anyway the media edited the tape only showing him -
Recaptimus_Prime360 wrote: »Recaptimus_Prime360 wrote: »damobb2deep wrote: »damobb2deep wrote: »CoonKillaThird wrote: »I stayed because I was mentally weak as ? . I left because after all those ass whoopins I couldn't take the ? no more.
#beforreal
That's what this kinda looks like tho.
hoe staying bc the money as soon as that ? go bankrupt shell be on oprah talmbout how hard it was to leave him and how much hell he put her thru
She was with him before the money though. She's just dumb.
so she dumb... but you want ray rice to go thru hell for hitting her.... again you are showing this wasn't about her 2 begin with...
I've already said it wasn't before I entertained your misguided ? . Does that matter?????
lol.. then you know that makes you look dumb as ? ... you really don't have a basis for an argument if it's not about her...
What the ? do you mean I don't have a basis? He's allowed to hit people? That's okay? It's about his actions not about her.
But you're ignoring the fact that SHE admitted to taking part of the blame as well. Again, the WHOLE vid shows her smackin him 1st. You can't just act like that didn't exist, and only focus on one side of the story.
Lmao that's what YOU'RE doing tho sweetie.
How? Show me where I've said only one of them is wrong like you. Apparently you haven't been reading the post, and only skimming them.
From the beginning
- I've said BOTH of them are at fault.
- You got FULL video evidence showing her striking him 1st before they even walked in the elevator.
- You got video of him knocking her out.
- The press conference where BOTH of them took responsibility for their part.
- Her IG response sayin she's ? off about how the media is portraying what happened.
- HER pretty much tellin folks to mind their business and that it's a family issue.
@. No need to keep defending her.
As for your "Post it" comment regarding her spittin ob him 1st...
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5789752
I'm Not defending her. I'm saying he's a ? ? . I'm supposed to feel sorry for a ? who will knock a ? out and drag her across a ? ass floor? And I'm supposed to assign blame equally when HE wasn't hurt in the "fight"? You're high huh?
lol this is hilarious... In a fight there is a winner and a loser.... she instigated by spitting and hitting and she lost. all that she got hurt ? is because she is a female cuz best believe had she did that to another chick and got dragged u wouldnt have that same stance. just say he hit a girl and no matter what she did he is wrong IMO and keep it moving cuz ur ignoring logic and facts.
