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  • DarkRaiden
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    veikuri wrote: »
    LOL @ people comparing Hulk to Doomsday.. I take it y'all never read Death of Superman? Probably just heard about it.

    Just remember. Doomsday went around one shotting/two shotting majority of the Justice League and almost killed Clark.

    That sounds like WWHulk. I mean, Hulk does these things too.
  • veikuri
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    DarkRaiden wrote: »
    veikuri wrote: »
    LOL @ people comparing Hulk to Doomsday.. I take it y'all never read Death of Superman? Probably just heard about it.

    Just remember. Doomsday went around one shotting/two shotting majority of the Justice League and almost killed Clark.

    That sounds like WWHulk. I mean, Hulk does these things too.

    Except most of the fights inWWH were plot induced stupidity.
  • zombie
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    The hulk is over rated and I don't give a ? if you no sign this post this smartest hulk is dumber than superman.
  • DarkRaiden
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    veikuri wrote: »
    DarkRaiden wrote: »
    veikuri wrote: »
    LOL @ people comparing Hulk to Doomsday.. I take it y'all never read Death of Superman? Probably just heard about it.

    Just remember. Doomsday went around one shotting/two shotting majority of the Justice League and almost killed Clark.

    That sounds like WWHulk. I mean, Hulk does these things too.

    Except most of the fights inWWH were plot induced stupidity.

    That was my point actually.
  • veikuri
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    DarkRaiden wrote: »
    veikuri wrote: »
    DarkRaiden wrote: »
    veikuri wrote: »
    LOL @ people comparing Hulk to Doomsday.. I take it y'all never read Death of Superman? Probably just heard about it.

    Just remember. Doomsday went around one shotting/two shotting majority of the Justice League and almost killed Clark.

    That sounds like WWHulk. I mean, Hulk does these things too.

    Except most of the fights inWWH were plot induced stupidity.

    That was my point actually.

    It's been maybe 10-15 or so years since I read Death of Superman, but what was so out of character from the fights? It's been awhile since I looked at WWH, but Sentry, Juggernaut, and Dr. Strange were the three fights that made no sense. It's like they forget they had more abilities.
  • DarkRaiden
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    veikuri wrote: »
    DarkRaiden wrote: »
    veikuri wrote: »
    DarkRaiden wrote: »
    veikuri wrote: »
    LOL @ people comparing Hulk to Doomsday.. I take it y'all never read Death of Superman? Probably just heard about it.

    Just remember. Doomsday went around one shotting/two shotting majority of the Justice League and almost killed Clark.

    That sounds like WWHulk. I mean, Hulk does these things too.

    Except most of the fights inWWH were plot induced stupidity.

    That was my point actually.

    It's been maybe 10-15 or so years since I read Death of Superman, but what was so out of character from the fights? It's been awhile since I looked at WWH, but Sentry, Juggernaut, and Dr. Strange were the three fights that made no sense. It's like they forget they had more abilities.

    Doomsday's punches being only strong enough to break some windows (he and especially Supes were weaker back then) and still taking down WW. Being equal in speed with Supes and yet speed blitzing Flash. Oneshotting people who can and have beaten Superman before like WW and Flash (and did he do it to MMH too?)

    It was essentially WWH in that the author just wanted him to win so he did. And easily at that.
  • jaxn
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    DoS Doomsday wasn't anything special. He wasn't as strong as the Hulk during that era. The majority of JLAers he was one shotting in that arc were like mid-tier characters
  • veikuri
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    Since when has WW and Flash have the same durability as Supes?
  • DarkRaiden
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    veikuri wrote: »
    Since when has WW and Flash have the same durability as Supes?

    The Flash point was the speed. Plus he actually does have Supes level durability. Him and Zoom take each other's hits all the time, and both of them hit at Superman level.

    WW has literally taken Superman's best and beaten him. She's always had Supes level durability.
  • veikuri
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    DarkRaiden wrote: »
    veikuri wrote: »
    Since when has WW and Flash have the same durability as Supes?

    The Flash point was the speed. Plus he actually does have Supes level durability. Him and Zoom take each other's hits all the time, and both of them hit at Superman level.

    WW has literally taken Superman's best and beaten him. She's always had Supes level durability.

    Post them scans.
  • dalyricalbandit
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    supes has always had more durability than WW
  • veikuri
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    supes has always had more durability than WW

    That's what I thought, but if he can post some scans to back it up I wouldn't mind.
  • DarkRaiden
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    veikuri wrote: »
    DarkRaiden wrote: »
    veikuri wrote: »
    Since when has WW and Flash have the same durability as Supes?

    The Flash point was the speed. Plus he actually does have Supes level durability. Him and Zoom take each other's hits all the time, and both of them hit at Superman level.

    WW has literally taken Superman's best and beaten him. She's always had Supes level durability.

    Post them scans.

    What exactly do you want scans of? Her beating Superman? Maybe her taking Zoom's punch that launched her across the continent (supposedly harder than Superman's best punch)? Her tanking a nuke?
  • veikuri
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    DarkRaiden wrote: »
    veikuri wrote: »
    DarkRaiden wrote: »
    veikuri wrote: »
    Since when has WW and Flash have the same durability as Supes?

    The Flash point was the speed. Plus he actually does have Supes level durability. Him and Zoom take each other's hits all the time, and both of them hit at Superman level.

    WW has literally taken Superman's best and beaten him. She's always had Supes level durability.

    Post them scans.

    What exactly do you want scans of? Her beating Superman? Maybe her taking Zoom's punch that launched her across the continent (supposedly harder than Superman's best punch)? Her tanking a nuke?

    Is that all you have that you believe she is Superman level? Why would Superman fight WW with killing intent?
  • DarkRaiden
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    veikuri wrote: »
    DarkRaiden wrote: »
    veikuri wrote: »
    DarkRaiden wrote: »
    veikuri wrote: »
    Since when has WW and Flash have the same durability as Supes?

    The Flash point was the speed. Plus he actually does have Supes level durability. Him and Zoom take each other's hits all the time, and both of them hit at Superman level.

    WW has literally taken Superman's best and beaten him. She's always had Supes level durability.

    Post them scans.

    What exactly do you want scans of? Her beating Superman? Maybe her taking Zoom's punch that launched her across the continent (supposedly harder than Superman's best punch)? Her tanking a nuke?

    Is that all you have that you believe she is Superman level? Why would Superman fight WW with killing intent?

    Maxwell Lord mind controlled him and made him think she was Doomsday who just killed Lois Lane. So yeah he was actually bloodlusted and wanted to ? her.
  • MrJR
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    Man I just watched avengers again on HBO and Hulk is the strongest
  • veikuri
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    DarkRaiden wrote: »
    veikuri wrote: »
    DarkRaiden wrote: »
    veikuri wrote: »
    DarkRaiden wrote: »
    veikuri wrote: »
    Since when has WW and Flash have the same durability as Supes?

    The Flash point was the speed. Plus he actually does have Supes level durability. Him and Zoom take each other's hits all the time, and both of them hit at Superman level.

    WW has literally taken Superman's best and beaten him. She's always had Supes level durability.

    Post them scans.

    What exactly do you want scans of? Her beating Superman? Maybe her taking Zoom's punch that launched her across the continent (supposedly harder than Superman's best punch)? Her tanking a nuke?

    Is that all you have that you believe she is Superman level? Why would Superman fight WW with killing intent?

    Maxwell Lord mind controlled him and made him think she was Doomsday who just killed Lois Lane. So yeah he was actually bloodlusted and wanted to ? her.


    Last I checked when she went toe to toe with a blood lusted Supes he dominated her.
  • DarkRaiden
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    veikuri wrote: »
    DarkRaiden wrote: »
    veikuri wrote: »
    DarkRaiden wrote: »
    veikuri wrote: »
    DarkRaiden wrote: »
    veikuri wrote: »
    Since when has WW and Flash have the same durability as Supes?

    The Flash point was the speed. Plus he actually does have Supes level durability. Him and Zoom take each other's hits all the time, and both of them hit at Superman level.

    WW has literally taken Superman's best and beaten him. She's always had Supes level durability.

    Post them scans.

    What exactly do you want scans of? Her beating Superman? Maybe her taking Zoom's punch that launched her across the continent (supposedly harder than Superman's best punch)? Her tanking a nuke?

    Is that all you have that you believe she is Superman level? Why would Superman fight WW with killing intent?

    Maxwell Lord mind controlled him and made him think she was Doomsday who just killed Lois Lane. So yeah he was actually bloodlusted and wanted to ? her.


    Last I checked when she went toe to toe with a blood lusted Supes he dominated her.

    She won the fight though. Slit his throat and had him out long enough to ? Max Lord.
  • jaxn
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    Flash has Superman level durability???? whoa let's not get carried away here
  • jaxn
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    That particular Supes/ Diana fight was a good one. It was a good showing for WW..other times she doesn't fare that well against Superman
  • DarkRaiden
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    New vids for those that want to see. The old link doesn't work:

    http://www.warwithwords.com/?p=244

  • Elzo69Renaissance
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    So many inconsistencies in these comics I don't even care
  • A.J. Trillzynski
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    Hulk would not win simply because he is too dumb i.e. blinded by rage. he can't think strategically. Superman has a lot more tools and can think clearly so he would figure some ? out.
  • jaxn
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    Hulk would not win simply because he is too dumb i.e. blinded by rage. he can't think strategically. Superman has a lot more tools and can think clearly so he would figure some ? out.
    I assume you haven't seen any Hulk appearances since the early 90s. There are several versions of the Hulk. Savage (dumb) Hulk hasn't made an appearance in quite some time.

  • A.J. Trillzynski
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    I don't read Marvel comics but I'm going by the movies and in the recent movies there is nothing to indicate that he is very bright. I thought the movies were making an attempt to be true to the books?