who better? westbrook or iverson

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  • R.D.
    R.D. Members Posts: 20,156 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Shizlansky wrote: »
    R.D. wrote: »
    Since when is Westbrook a great defender

    Westbrook can't guard ?

    He's not a great defender. He's a better defender.

    Nobody in this league is stopping these elite PGs.

    And Westbrook ain't one of the better defenders so what are you saying

    Quick guards give Westbrook hell which is oh ? , like every PG in the league
  • Shizlansky
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    R.D. wrote: »
    Shizlansky wrote: »
    R.D. wrote: »
    Since when is Westbrook a great defender

    Westbrook can't guard ?

    He's not a great defender. He's a better defender.

    Nobody in this league is stopping these elite PGs.

    And Westbrook ain't one of the better defenders so what are you saying

    Quick guards give Westbrook hell which is oh ? , like every PG in the league

    Better defender then AI
  • Shizlansky
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    Tmac > AI

    and Tmac don't have a finals appearance
  • S2J
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    If his career continues the arch its on now, Westbrook, EASY

    As far as best small player, Isaiah>>>>>AI by a mile.

    You have to remember, AI was shootin 42% w/ 100% green light

    RW with that, for a career, basicaly would have career stats like his past month

    Isaiah would have done everything AI did but with better %.
  • S2J
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    and my bad if i read wrong or missed the sarcasm but cp3 not better than iverson either, he better than westbrook tho

    No. Its about time yall update your rankings. In this era of great quality pgs, gon have to start checkin the numbers

    Cp3 has the assists (so does Rondo and Nash), avg scoring, not really the playoff success. From a long range view, his career status becomes more mundane. HOFer no doubt, but nothing transcedant.

    Westbrook already has a Finals appearance, a shot at a MVP, another good shot at Finals, and imo if they are to win,he will be mvp not durant

    A lot to shake out, but RW is doing rare things.

    Thats career-wise. Actual talent wise, no way in hell i'd take cp3 over RW
  • S2J
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    I tell ya...Yall would be suprised if u stack CP3's career stats against Tim Hardaway, Mark Price, etc
  • S2J
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    Lol @ AI bein under and over rated

    'Take a team to finals by himself' really doesnt mean anything. Getting,to the Finals doea not mean anything,,eapecially in that era. Bc Vince Carter getting tobthe finals is rarely even brought up or remembered when yalking his career. That era of the east was ?

    No one says Drexler took a team TO THE FINALS!

    No one says with Shaq, 5 titles and another year took a team TO THE FINALS!

    It means absolutely nothing, but w/ AI it gets brought up like it's a defacto title.

    The man was a beast, all time great, but he's not untouchable career status wise, especialy vs a guy doin what RW is doin
  • TheGOAT
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  • Olorun22
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    TheGOAT wrote: »
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    They lost 4 straight after that tho
  • O.G.
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    S2J wrote: »
    Lol @ AI bein under and over rated

    'Take a team to finals by himself' really doesnt mean anything. Getting,to the Finals doea not mean anything,,eapecially in that era. Bc Vince Carter getting tobthe finals is rarely even brought up or remembered when yalking his career. That era of the east was ?

    No one says Drexler took a team TO THE FINALS!

    No one says with Shaq, 5 titles and another year took a team TO THE FINALS!

    It means absolutely nothing, but w/ AI it gets brought up like it's a defacto title.

    The man was a beast, all time great, but he's not untouchable career status wise, especialy vs a guy doin what RW is doin

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  • Beta
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    Iverson can never be brought up and 2001 is not mentioned
  • Tommy bilfiger
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    S2J wrote: »
    Lol @ AI bein under and over rated

    'Take a team to finals by himself' really doesnt mean anything. Getting,to the Finals doea not mean anything,,eapecially in that era. Bc Vince Carter getting tobthe finals is rarely even brought up or remembered when yalking his career. That era of the east was ?

    Carter never went to the finals in his career
  • Bulletproof Wallets
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    They are both great players that played under different sets of rules in diff eras?

    Iverson played under rules that gave defenses more freedom to knock your ass down and not get fined. It would be interesting to see him play under today's rules because a lot of common fouls in 2001 are suspensions in 2015. A blow to the head is automatic flagrant foul now. Back then, shiiiiiit!

    But Westbrook is playing in a league now that is catering all the rules for exciting guard play, so this gives him an advantage in the rules. Remember back 2004, Pacers, Pistons, Miami, New York. ? it was so common to see teams scoring under 80 points. Defenses were brutal compared to now.

    Both great players.
  • Bcotton5
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    R.D. wrote: »
    Since when is Westbrook a great defender

    Westbrook can't guard ?

  • Bcotton5
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    They are both great players that played under different sets of rules in diff eras?

    Iverson played under rules that gave defenses more freedom to knock your ass down and not get fined. It would be interesting to see him play under today's rules because a lot of common fouls in 2001 are suspensions in 2015. A blow to the head is automatic flagrant foul now. Back then, shiiiiiit!

    But Westbrook is playing in a league now that is catering all the rules for exciting guard play, so this gives him an advantage in the rules. Remember back 2004, Pacers, Pistons, Miami, New York. ? it was so common to see teams scoring under 80 points. Defenses were brutal compared to now.

    Both great players.

    Russ reckless aggression out of control style helps him out, a lot of the time the ? gets bailed out & plenty of free throws because hes so wild.
  • Tommy bilfiger
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    Russ>>>>>>>Iverson.Y'all stay dickridin iverson just cuz you grew up with struggle braids that couldnt grow past your earlobes

    Westbrook out here doing ? that hasnt been done since da Goat did it and he's in an era that's deep with pg's that he routinely dominates.Iverson better my ass FOH
  • EmM HoLLa.
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    Man cut this ? out. You take Russell Westbrook and put him on the Allen Iverson team that went to the finals.. They don't go that far.. Period.. And thats not to diss Russy.. Thats just to say Iverson is that dude!

    And to the ? that said Russy is a better defensive player that Ivo ? yaself.. Iverson was always among the league leaders in steals..
  • TheGOAT
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    En-Fuego22 wrote: »
    TheGOAT wrote: »
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    They lost 4 straight after that tho

    team vs team they had no chance

    Don't really care. Im a Bulls fan for life.

    2001 was a rough time for BullsNation

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  • EmM HoLLa.
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    Also if you said CP3 is better than Iverson we aint got nothing to discuss here.. Y'all ? trippy...
  • Peezy_Jenkins
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    Shizlansky wrote: »
    Like I keep saying you don't get props for getting manhandled in the finals.

    making the finals>>not making the finals.
  • EmM HoLLa.
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    This ? got me kinda upset lol.. I can't believe you ? .. hahaha.. Yo son.. Let me ask again did y'all actually watch Iverson?..
  • Peezy_Jenkins
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    barely beat a team that should have never been in the game lol, not only that they let philly take em to ot. plus they lost the previous 2 with his erratic play. ? like to let the triple doubles cover up 14-37 for some reason

    iverson get hate for doin this against(minus the triple double) amongst elite sg's and having much lesser teammates

    but westbrook do it now and its got u ? caught in the rapture, yet he lost half them games, almost 3 of em cuz he so stupid with shot selection. but nah its ? allen iverson he overrated.

    WISHY WASHY
  • EmM HoLLa.
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    Son they changed rules in the NBA due to Iverson.. smh.. Yo.. Im in the twighlight zone..