I feel sorry for all you "you don't need college" ? in the next decade or so.

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  • huey
    huey Members Posts: 11,743 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    you ? are stupid
  • blackrain
    blackrain Members, Moderators Posts: 27,269 Regulator
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    I was gonna go to college but that ? is a hustle and its for super smart people you gotta take physics,advanced calculus,accounting and chemistry just to graduate

    It makes you believe you Have to have a college education to make it but they don't tell you how 100,000's of people will have the same degree you got and be applying for the same jobs you will.

    Wtf does analytical statistic class have to do wit the real world? Fucc college

    Lol no you don't. I graduated and I took only 2 classes involving math and that was only because 1 was required for my major. Other than that, I never took math outside of my only science class that I took was an astronomy course I took as an elective simply because i actually like astronomy and study it in my own free time anyway. Depending on your major you can very easily not take certain courses
  • Lurker6
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    FucktheIC wrote: »
    Jamaica wrote: »
    some cats are better off just going to trade school.

    Trade school to do what, though? What's gonna happen when old cars are phased out? It's very short sighted. ? don't need to prepare themselves for now, they need to prepare themselves for tomorrow.
    what makes this right here even funnier....is that u made this thread to basically ? on people who dont have a degree and let them know they're stupid for not having one/think they can survive without one....while insinuating u'll be forever better off then them cuz u have one.....yet u say something that dumb that most people would expect from someone without a degree...
  • VIBE
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    FucktheIC wrote: »
    VIBE wrote: »
    They say they suggest not going to college and to be an entrepreneur, because well, most of the ? we have today are from those kind of people.

    Who's they? You could be the next Mark Zuckerberg....but probably not. You COULD be the next Michael Dell....but probably not. ? need to stop being stupid and take they ? to college.

    There's some ? that's gonna bubble up to the surface about free trade agreements. In the 80's and 90's we opened up everything to globalization assuming we would have the workforce to transition from skills based to service based jobs, but we don't. People still have this idea that you can just get a diploma, get a job as an electrician, and call it a day. But those jobs are gonna see a reduction of about 25% in the next decade where as America will be short about 90K doctors in the next decade.

    Smarten up gentlemen.

    LOL

    I'm just saying that's what was said, they were talking about it on CNN a couple months back. I'm not saying to do that.
  • ocelot
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    You don't need college... Only connections
  • High Revolutionary
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    uolag wrote: »
    locksmith1 wrote: »
    Trades will never disappear. We are always going to need HVAC technicians to fix and install our a/c units, electrician/electronics to design and install electrical and electronics circuits and druck drivers to ship/receive manufactured products, food, and gas. People need to open their minds up a little bit and look at the variety of industries they get into. Depending on the field you study, you don't a college degree. However, you should always look forward to enhance your skills, increase your working experience and knowledge with an advanced education whether is through a trade or degree program.

    I'm glad my dad was the jack of all trades and past his knowledge onto me. Anyway, what i notice with this new generation, they don't like to get their hands ? . Most of them aren't built to be a carpenter, electrician, mechanic, or whatever. A lot of them want a desk job

    Not only do they not want to get their hands ? , a lot of them look down on those types of jobs as lowly, blue-collar, positions.

    But those people are just as necessary to society, if not more as the guy sitting behind a desk. To me a job is a job, whether it's working on cars or designing operating systems. The whole purpose is to provide a means for yourself and your family.
  • Tommy bilfiger
    Tommy bilfiger Members Posts: 22,675 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    blackrain wrote: »
    I was gonna go to college but that ? is a hustle and its for super smart people you gotta take physics,advanced calculus,accounting and chemistry just to graduate

    It makes you believe you Have to have a college education to make it but they don't tell you how 100,000's of people will have the same degree you got and be applying for the same jobs you will.

    Wtf does analytical statistic class have to do wit the real world? Fucc college

    Lol no you don't. I graduated and I took only 2 classes involving math and that was only because 1 was required for my major. Other than that, I never took math outside of my only science class that I took was an astronomy course I took as an elective simply because i actually like astronomy and study it in my own free time anyway. Depending on your major you can very easily not take certain courses

    I was playin I'm goin to college.Not really hyped but I guess its necessary

    Major Business Management.Minor economics or finance

  • CashmoneyDux
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    Job =/= Career
  • blakfyahking
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    SMH....college is such a scam

    they really need to cut Federal loan and grants for that ?
  • a.mann
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    @BOSSBOO SAYS OTHER WISE

    U DONT NEED A PHD TO ? HOES AND WEAR 29K GOLD SANDALS....

    "of course, only plebeians give away hard on bread on what they can learn for free...."
  • Copper
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    funny t/s says target cause I know a chic that graduated with a degree in communications (dont know what u supposed to do with that) that is now working at targets like a slave
  • CapitalB
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    @BOSSBOO SAYS OTHER WISE

    U DONT NEED A PHD TO ? HOES AND WEAR 29K GOLD SANDALS....
    a.mann wrote: »
    @BOSSBOO SAYS OTHER WISE

    U DONT NEED A PHD TO ? HOES AND WEAR 29K GOLD SANDALS....

    "of course, only plebeians give away hard on bread on what they can learn for free...."

    awww ..my fans..
    hey yall!!? how's ur Sunday goin!!?
  • freshb651
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    I'm thinking about going back very soon,but I was on Google yesterday looking at reviews of the school i plan on

    attending and all but 1 of the reviews was bad. One of the reviews the dude said he used to work admissions for

    the school and he said they just want your money and the instructors don't give a ? about you. In another review

    the guy said that he was in the Army and he had been to 5 different schools all over the world and this one was the

    worst. In the one positive review the guy said that you shouldn't listen to all the other negative reviews and that it's

    a good school if you stay focused and don't ? and that the career field he chose(the same one I'm going into)

    the school has a 91% job placement rate. So I'm kinda on the fence, possible 80/90k debt or 91% percent chance of

    a good job.
  • freshb651
    freshb651 Members Posts: 8,240 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Overtime ??? wtf,my Vikings always find a way to give away a game
  • Copper
    Copper Members Posts: 49,532 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    91% job placement is very good (also depends on what kinda jobs we talking though)
    career placement would be better
  • sniperk
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    I received an Honors degree in English Literature and wrote my LSATs to go to Law School where I was accepted into several schools in Canada and the United States.

    However, around the same time, I was approached by the government to work at a lucrative job. I was kind of burnt out from university and the pay was ridiculous compared to what my friends were making at the time so I took the job and cashed out.

    Fast forward to 2012 and I'm starting to feel bored and burnt out in my position. Thinking of going back to school to get my MBA... become an independent contractor... and work for myself for even more $$$$
  • blackrain
    blackrain Members, Moderators Posts: 27,269 Regulator
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    uolag wrote: »
    locksmith1 wrote: »
    Trades will never disappear. We are always going to need HVAC technicians to fix and install our a/c units, electrician/electronics to design and install electrical and electronics circuits and druck drivers to ship/receive manufactured products, food, and gas. People need to open their minds up a little bit and look at the variety of industries they get into. Depending on the field you study, you don't a college degree. However, you should always look forward to enhance your skills, increase your working experience and knowledge with an advanced education whether is through a trade or degree program.

    I'm glad my dad was the jack of all trades and past his knowledge onto me. Anyway, what i notice with this new generation, they don't like to get their hands ? . Most of them aren't built to be a carpenter, electrician, mechanic, or whatever. A lot of them want a desk job

    Not only do they not want to get their hands ? , a lot of them look down on those types of jobs as lowly, blue-collar, positions.

    But those people are just as necessary to society, if not more as the guy sitting behind a desk. To me a job is a job, whether it's working on cars or designing operating systems. The whole purpose is to provide a means for yourself and your family.

    While people do devalue manual labor jobs, people do need to get this idea out their heads that "Just because so and so didn't go to college and become a millionaire, so can I"...if you want to be able to move up the ladder and do certain things, make a certain salary you're going to need to go to college or some form of school past high school in order to even get your foot in the door. If you want to do a trade, that's fine nothing wrong with that at all. Just understand there's only a certain amount of upward mobility in those jobs.
  • blackgod813
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    Go to the military b a model on the side marry a well to do woman drop a album with banging beats dabble in porn retire no kidss
  • CottonCitySlim
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    Mexicans gonna eventually take all the trade jobs
  • Amotekun
    Amotekun Members Posts: 7,820 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I feel sorry for ? that think having a degree>>>>>>>>>>>entrepreneur.

    Workin for yourself is better than workin for anyone else.

    Workin for someone outside of a union in a employ at will state is ? risky.

    Goin to a trade school and being certified in Electrician, HVAC, Plumbing, Carpentry

    guarantees you will either be employed or can go into business for yourself.

    Buildings are going to stay being constructed people are going to always need repairs
    in their homes.

    Unless you are going to university for the sciences you are foolin and bitin hard on the hustle.

    t/s whole thread premise is just fool of smart dumb ? logic.
  • FucktheIC
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    In his acclaimed 2006 book, The Global Class War, economist Jeff Faux predicted a major financial catastrophe in the next few years. Sometimes, one would rather be wrong.

    In The Servant Economy, Faux surveys the wreckage and asks: Where do we go from here? The economy may recover from the financial crash, but the historic and geographic cushions that have kept Americans prosperous are deflated. The United States can no longer support the dreams of Wall Street for boundless speculative wealth, the military-industrial complex for global hegemony, and the middle class for rising living standards. One of these dreams? Certainly. Two? Perhaps. But not all three.

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    Yet both the electorate and the elected are in denial. Americans tell pollsters the country may be in decline, but that they personally will be okay. Politicians perpetuate the myth that Americans' exceptional can-do spirit will save them from the consequences of their leaders' folly. But hope is not a strategy. "Jobs, jobs, jobs," the governing class shouts against the forces of globalization, when it really means: "Lower wages, lower wages, lower wages."

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    Here's the inside sleeve of a book I read recently.
  • FucktheIC
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    A picture of me speaking at yesterday’s TEDxReset in Istanbul.

    Yesterday I was honored to be one of the featured speakers at the TEDxReset Conference in Istanbul, Turkey where I predicted that over 2 billion jobs will disappear by 2030. Since my 18-minute talk was about the rapidly shifting nature of colleges and higher education, I didn’t have time to explain how and why so many jobs would be going away. Because of all of the questions I received afterwards, I will do that here.

    If you haven’t been to a TEDx event, it is hard to confer the life-changing nature of something like this. Ali Ustundag and his team pulled off a wonderful event.

    The day was filled with an energizing mix of musicians, inspiration, and big thinkers. During the breaks, audience members were eager to hear more and peppered the speakers with countless questions. They were also extremely eager to hear more about the future.

    When I brought up the idea of 2 billion jobs disappearing (roughly 50% of all the jobs on the planet) it wasn’t intended as a doom and gloom outlook. Rather, it was intended as a wakeup call, letting the world know how quickly things are about to change, and letting academia know that much of the battle ahead will be taking place at their doorstep.

    Here is a brief overview of five industries – where the jobs will be going away and the jobs that will likely replace at least some of them – over the coming decades.